What causes CRIME? It's pissing me off!

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

What is the root cause of crime? Really. Have you thought about this shit before?

 

What causes Johnny to go out and bump off a liquor store or rob Mrs. Jones or rape Cindy Miller or deal drugs or WHAT THE FUCK EVER CRIME....?

 

What the hell is it and why can't we FIX this fucking problem?

 

Is it to many broken homes and single parents? If single parenthood 'caused' crime and violence, then Sweden and Denmark ought to have higher rates than the United States, instead of rates that are dramatically lower.

 

Is it race? Why are the jails full of criminal ******s but then again, whitey is there too, as well as the chinks and the spics and the beaners?

 

Is it poverty? According to a 1993 report by the National Academy of Sciences, "Personal and neighborhood income are the strongest predictors of violent crime." Are they right?

 

I'm so pissed at the rampant crime I can't stand it anymore. Shit, even the white collar guys are getting busted left and right. It's no longer just street crime.

 

Personally, I feel the Worldcom and Tyco crimes did more damage to our society in total than all of the rapes in the last 5 years.

 

WTF!

 

What do you think? Be prepared to defend yourself and your weak arguments!

[eisanbt]

Oppression maybe, caused form a hierarchcal system which is self-maintaining and wokr in the best interests of those on top. (Obviously)

 

The things you mentioned such as Poverty, rape, racisism, these are all forms of hierarchy. (Economic, Patriarchal and Racial.) Therefore would it not stand without a system hierarchy people would come into a world where they can't justify their actions against a social structure where nobody is better or worse then themselves.

 

Hell we teach kids that democracy is the best way to make decisions (Which is still hierarchal, the majority over the minority) Yet right up form the beginning of their social lives (The education system) they are dictated to. In every aspect of society you can see thousands of people being bend to the will of others for no more reason then they've decided as such.

 

When somebody has a beef with the system and are unable to comply with the state, then they're left to break out to fulfill this need. (You want to smoke pot...BUT THATS ILLEGAL!)

 

Seeing as you're nver going to get 30million of 270million people to all agree on how they want to live we'd all just be alot better off living with those of like minds and creating communities where we could live as we wish, without outside interference and without interfering with the lives of others who disagree with us. (Otherwise we'd re-create the system we wished to escape).

 

I'm pretty drowzy right now so critize me and I'll clairfy.

[fullauto]

I think one of the major reasons people commit crimes is that they see no reasonable alternative... Not to say that everyone who commits a violent crime does it out of desperation, but most people of sound mind and body would rather work a full time job and just squeak by than turn to a life riddled with crime and uncertainty... Most people...

 

But you see, I think there must be alternatives... and a person's alternatives are limited to what they think REALL possibilities are... You only know what you see, and if all you see is crack whores and junkies, or living the 'big life' through drug dealing or murder, then of course people are more going to go with the big life...

 

I've said it before and I will continue to say it... Evidence supports that Negros are no more genetically prone to commit violent crime than any other group in this nation, yet they are a little more than 8X's more likely to go to prison for these offenses! So what is it about Black people that tends to produce violent criminals.... I think it is their culture... It Glorifies violence, crime, and non-assimilation... Mainstream black culture has become a nationalist movement with no means in site of being checked...

 

And this culture is where our young people are getting there alternatives from... Pop culture pumps the worst aspects of society into our lives ad nausea... That coupled with the incredible laziness of modern parents, is how our children are being raised...

 

Long gone are the days of 'shoot for the stars', or 'you can do anything you put your mind to'... Now we have, 'at least finish high school', and 'you don't need to speak properly to be an American'....

 

More and more children are turning to crime as a result of

 

1. No more expectations... The Uber-Liberals have taken away our ability to raise our children as we see fit, and to encourage them with the means we see fit, in the interest of not hurting their feelings.... Hurting their feelings is not something we do for sport... It's to harden them to a world of callousness before it smacks them in the face and breaks their spirit... We need to expect and DEMAND more from our children....

 

2. Role models.. How can you demand something from your child that you yourself did not, or will not do? If you want your child to be a success, you need to first show him through example... and I don't mean monetarily... Be an upright man first, and then show your child to be upright... Parents these days are generally nothing to emulate...

 

3. Authority... Children now have this crazy notion that it is not only socially exceptable, but 'IN' to undermine authority! I wonder where they go that crazy notion from?! I will admit that there is a time and a place for the rebelling against authority, but for the most part, our society alot smoother when children spoke to adults with a fair bit of contriteness, and a pinch of fear... Respect for your elders and persons in positions of authority is not only a nice thing to do, it is a time honored way to ensure that the older, wiser members of our society keep the younger, more inexperienced members from upsetting such a delicate balance....

 

4. BEAT YOUR CHILDREN ! ! ! Not for any reason... but if they did something wrong... WACK EM ! !

[Hamza123]

Great article on what causes crime!

 

For the last hundred years we have tried to apply scientific methods of research to such a question as what causes crime.

 

We haven

[TheJenn88]

Good topic, CES.

 

I'm just going to throw in my 2cents and give another possible explanation.

 

Pretty much everyone on the face of this earth has broken the law. So, let's go with a small example, and maybe it can explain some of the bigger things, too.

 

Why did I do what I did? (Let's say..for the sake of what I did remaining anonymous, steal $1000). Alright. Let's say I stole $1000, well, why did I do it? Because I wanted it, because I was sure I wouldn't get caught, and mostly, because I just could. Well, where's that moral guidance to tell me, "no"? I honestly think it's my parenting that I had. I'm not BLAMING them, I'm just saying their raising me has turned me out this way. I still fully acknowledge that I'm in charge of my own actions. But I just do not feel that they raised me to guide myself with certain morals deemed necessary and acceptable by society's standards.

 

But to this day, I can never remember actually feeling true guilt, or remorse. Maybe I felt regret, but only for getting caught and then getting punished. My actions, if they are deamed to be "wrong" tend to be acted out on the probability of getting caught, or getting away with whatever it was that I was doing.

 

But that might just be my case. I don't think there is one true reason as to what might go wrong. For some people it might be the media, for some it may be their family, or their peers, or maybe they're just fucked. I do not know.

[builder]

I committed a crime just in the last hour or so. I took my laptop to this unit I was working in, and burnt three CD's worth of someone else's music.

 

I do it all the time. It's becoming a habit.

 

I'm such a bad-arse.

[smutt butt]

What is the root cause of crime? Really. Have you thought about this shit before?

 

What causes Johnny to go out and bump off a liquor store or rob Mrs. Jones or rape Cindy Miller or deal drugs or WHAT THE FUCK EVER CRIME....?

 

What the hell is it and why can't we FIX this fucking problem?

 

Is it to many broken homes and single parents? If single parenthood 'caused' crime and violence, then Sweden and Denmark ought to have higher rates than the United States, instead of rates that are dramatically lower.

 

Is it race? Why are the jails full of criminal ******s but then again, whitey is there too, as well as the chinks and the spics and the beaners?

 

Is it poverty? According to a 1993 report by the National Academy of Sciences, "Personal and neighborhood income are the strongest predictors of violent crime." Are they right?

 

I'm so pissed at the rampant crime I can't stand it anymore. Shit, even the white collar guys are getting busted left and right. It's no longer just street crime.

 

Personally, I feel the Worldcom and Tyco crimes did more damage to our society in total than all of the rapes in the last 5 years.

 

WTF!

 

What do you think? Be prepared to defend yourself and your weak arguments!

 

Re: What causes CRIME? people are too freakin lazy to get an education or work for what they want. i admit i am a lazy ass but i get up and go to work every day.

 

The thought of having an ass full of dick keeps me from commiting crimes.

[Komrade Vostok Hazard]

People commit crimes because there is an easy buck, people will think you're a cool bad-ass, we have pop culture portray the crime life like it will bring every average schmuck from rags to riches - and have grown up around people who does the aformentioned.

[Jhony5]

Shit I still commit crime almost on a daily level. I buy and smoke weed. I drive my car after doing so. "Crime" is a subjective term. For the most part felonious criminals use their disposition in life as an excuse to commit crime. I think its more about lazyness then nescessity. I remember grownig up in poor areas and breaking into cars to steal whatever when I was only 12. It was for kicks really. Inner city drug dealers often say that they deal to support their family, however they often don't do shit to support. In their case its more about the lifestyle they choose then the lifestyle they are 'forced' to live.

[cybacaT]

It's clearly a combination of many of the factors listed:

 

eg. combine poverty and a materialistic society and you get crime. People want what other people have, what the ads on TV tell them they need, what the rappers tell them they need to have to pick up chicks, etc. Without money, the only option is crime - selling drugs, stealing and so on.

 

Combine Single parents with low wages and long hours of employment. Suddenly you have parents unable to raise their kids with values - values that will stop kids from committing crime.

 

Combine drug abuse with poverty and you get people committing crimes that in their normal state they wouldn't consider. Desperation and numbed sense of morality leads to heinous crimes.

 

 

BUT afaic above all of these things is values. Basic christian values that used to be the building blocks of our western countries like Australia and the US.

 

Remember Do not steal? Do not kill? Do not commit adultery? etc?

These, along with christianity itself has been disrespected to the point of abuse over recent decades. It's contribution to building the societies we now enjoy has been disregarded, and in it's place an attitude of people making up the rules as they go along has taken it's place. So it's little surprise when a person is confronted with a choice to steal/not steal, to attack someone/not attack someone etc...that many decide they feel like committing the crime.

 

You can have standards without christianity - but what are those standards? What your parents tell you? What are their standards? Is it what you get from movies, tv etc? Is it based upon the opinions of journalists writing in newspapers? These "values" constantly chop and change. The DIFFERENCE with christianity is you have a universal set of values that were just as relevant 2000 years ago as they are today - simple, logical, easy to follow values. Even if people dislike religion, a return to respecting and teaching those basic values will put a stop to a spiralling crime rate.

 

imho of course...

[italiano_Pride]

We can't "Fix this fucking problem" because there are enough wacked out fucknuts out there who think it's ok to murder their sisters kid because she ate the last few fritos. Face it, as long as there are people, there will be crime.

[snafu]

Wow this is an impressive thread. It sounds like everybody so far has made very profound posts. I seem to agree on all of them.

 

Course I just took a hit of the bong and everything

[chartreusechick]

Laws cause crime

[eisanbt]

Laws cause crime

 

 

Well you got us there, but I think its more a "What causes henious acts of jackassery" thread.

[builder]

What causes crime???

 

Greed. Lust. Envy. Hate. Addiction. Gluttony. Stupidity. Religion.

[builder]

I forgot this one:

 

Jealousy

[italiano_Pride]

You got a really good point there builder. Lot of jealous husbands out there.

[snafu]

Yea a lot of jealous husbands out there. Not like there aren

[snafu]

What causes crime???

 

Greed. Lust. Envy. Hate. Addiction. Gluttony. Stupidity. Religion.

 

I guess that sums up human nature. So I guess there

[Jhony5]

I guess that sums up human nature. So I guess there

[builder]

So true. Stupidity is the most dangerous weapon one can wield. A stupid person is just annoying. A stupid person with a gun is dangerous.

 

And a stupid person in control of a nuclear arsenal is a threat to humanity.

 

Did you vote for him?

[Jhony5]

And a stupid person in control of a nuclear arsenal is a threat to humanity.

 

Did you vote for him?

No sir, I did not. I wanted to give 'ol Kerry a shot at the helm. Not a big John Kerry fan, but I figured to pick my poison and go with a non-Bush white house.

[builder]

No sir, I did not. I wanted to give 'ol Kerry a shot at the helm. Not a big John Kerry fan, but I figured to pick my poison and go with a non-Bush white house.

 

I forget why Edwards got pipped by Kerry for the post. I would have voted for Edwards, but when he lost the ticket, it was all up in the air for mine.

 

It's truly sad that there are only ever two choices.

[captainfrenchfry]

well people are generally just looking out for themselves. some of the people in this world don't choose the high road of hard work and self sacrifice. they choose to better their own lives at the cost of others hard work.

[builder]

well people are generally just looking out for themselves. some of the people in this world don't choose the high road of hard work and self sacrifice. they choose to better their own lives at the cost of others hard work.

 

At the expense of the populace.

 

Old men with new toys makes for a dangerous combination.

 

Their greed will be the end of life as we know it.

 

What a shame I have more morals than those who have the "god-given" right to end my time on earth.