One guess who's behind this...

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,174677,00.html

 

my guess is ...

 

 

ISLAM

[Outlaw2747]

It could be but pirates do come in all shapes and sizes. Are terrorist Muslim extremists known for things such a piracy though? Wait, better question...I haven't looked it up yet but what is the primary religion of Somalia?

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

It could be but pirates do come in all shapes and sizes. Are terrorist Muslim extremists known for things such a piracy though? Wait, better question...I haven't looked it up yet but what is the primary religion of Somalia?

The barbary coast pirates were almost 100% muslim (I'm sure they had their Christian slaves swabbing the decks though).

[builder]

I just caught some footage of the boats the pirates used. The link says they were inflatable boats, which I found a bit strange, considering they could expect to be fired upon.

 

The boats are clearly not inflatables. The pirates were dressed in black, and hooded. Sounds familiar.

 

I think the real question is, where the fuck is the Phantom?

[angie]

It could be but pirates do come in all shapes and sizes. Are terrorist Muslim extremists known for things such a piracy though? Wait, better question...I haven't looked it up yet but what is the primary religion of Somalia?

Isn't AIG Somali?

[Jhony5]

Isn't AIG Somali?

 

Yes she is. Somalia is a muslim state, and as MRIH pointed out, so are many of the countreis along this region.

Why is it when Islam attacks in this manner, they always do so by seperating themselves from the political heads whom fund their efforts? By this I mean the heads of muslim states whom no doubt financialy back operations of aggression like this, remain 'untouchable' by standards of international justice, due to the use of guerilla tactics of low level operatives. We hear them all the time condeming terrorist actions through political press releases, while writting checks to the perpetraitors at the same time.

[Outlaw2747]

Isn't AIG Somali?

 

Damn, that also answered my question right there as well as MRIH's. Then again I had to make sure. Just wanted to get my facts straight, thanks Angie and MRIH.

[eisanbt]

Yes she is. Somalia is a muslim state, and as MRIH pointed out, so are many of the countreis along this region.

Why is it when Islam attacks in this manner, they always do so by seperating themselves from the political heads whom fund their efforts? By this I mean the heads of muslim states whom no doubt financialy back operations of aggression like this, remain 'untouchable' by standards of international justice, due to the use of guerilla tactics of low level operatives. We hear them all the time condeming terrorist actions through political press releases, while writting checks to the perpetraitors at the same time.

 

 

That sounds EXACTLY like the low-level CIA operations that left countries like Chilie under the rule of brutal dictators (Who conincidently used their terrible power to benefit certain US corporations closely alinged with various highlevel politciens)....

 

Our hands are just as dirty as the fucks supporting the pirates/terrorists. We've done the same many times through-out history only we're sickingly more effective.

 

A great quote, as in a TERRIBLE qoute, sums up my view on this sort of issues...

 

"Patriotism requires blind obidence." (Kind of like blindly following a a nut-case religious sect)

[RoyalOrleans]

So is this what AIG is up to?

[Komrade Vostok Hazard]

I don't think the pirates were doing it because they're muslim and for the name of Jihad. I think they did it because they're pirates.

[builder]

I don't think the pirates were doing it because they're muslim and for the name of Jihad. I think they did it because they're pirates.

 

Good point. Pirates come in all shapes and religions.

 

Now the rocket-launchers they used must be easy to come by in Somalia.

[Lethalfind]

When you read about what defines abnormal behavior such as paranoid ideation, within the US, you also read that in some countries things we consider abnormal are considered as preservation techniques in places like Somalia and other countries run by Muslims. Their whole definition for what is a normal life is different. This is what would allow someone to think themselves a 'good muslim' and still be able to commit the crimes the do.

Say what you like but ANYONE who can tell themselves they are following the tenents of their religion and commit crimes against property and people aren't right in the head. We hear that kind of talk coming from Muslims all the time. It doesn't seem to matter what country they come from, its a common thread running through all of them. They feel like the whole christian world is out to get them so they are justified in taking it out on any one and everyone in their path. Look whats going on in France, the trash doing it think France owes them a free ride. In spite of what AIG thinks unemployment is higher among Muslims in the UK then any other religious group. They don't have time to work, they are too busy hating everyone they feel has wronged them. How better to address this feeling then to become pirates?

 

Are we are a world really going to tolerate this bullshit where we can't go to France for fear of this shit heads, now we can't go on a cruise. I am still nervous on planes and you can be damn sure I would be affraid to get on a train in London now.

[builder]

I disagree. This won't stop cruise ships, and it surely is not an isolated case of piracy. It goes on all over the globe, all the time. Oil tankers were targetted in the Indian ocean for a decade or so.

 

As for travel to France, I'd be more hesitant to travel to New Orleans after seeing how violent those thugs can be. I'm booked to go to Bali in the new year,, despite the recent bombings. You just stay away from the trouble spots.

 

I, for one, won't be letting some towel-heads with a hate complex turn me into an agorophobe. That may be just what they expect of me, so I say, fuck you, towel-heads. If I don't make it home, at least I will die a free-willed man.

[Outlaw2747]

Piracy has been going on for ages and shipping won't stop because of it. There are low instances of it these days that it ever was before.

 

As for the RPG-7, of course some of us know that the RPG-7 is a simple rocket propelled grenade system made by the Soviets and many of them are still being sold by the Russians to whoever will buy it. Not to mention most countries have found ways of building cpies of it since it is so simple. Alot of shady shit goes on in that part of the world so it is only natural that the weapon pops up in numerous quantities. And what better way to threaten a ship than using something that can sink it?

 

Oh and once again, KVH made a valid point.

[builder]

@Outlaw, the grenade launchers were fired into above deck cabins, one hitting a stateroom. I don't think a grenade would have a snowflake's hope in hell of piercing a steel-plate hull.

 

As for piracy being on the decline, that may be the case in some areas, but north of Australia is rife with piracy, particularly between Papua New Guinea, and Queensland; a stretch of water called the Torres Straits.

 

An old friend operates a customs search vessel in those waters. His craft is a double-skinned GRP hull, with four-inch thick foam between the skins. The twin diesel engines are cased in ballistic nylon barriers. Bullets can pass through the hull, and the foam closes up behind them. Patches can be effectively applied using gaffer tape.

 

Suprisingly, most of his work involves stopping alcohol leaving Australia bound for Papua, and incoming drugs from Indonesia. The pirates are attacking the black marketeers as they 'commute' these waters.

[Outlaw2747]

I know. I was referring to the older boats and ships. I am sure every vessel that comes across isn't exactly up to today's tehcnology. Even in a large steel ship, seeing someone with an RPG-7 in their hand is sure to make you piss your pants.

 

Makes me wonder sometimes, do other countries have their own form of a Coast Guard?

[Komrade Vostok Hazard]

Piracy has been going on for ages and shipping won't stop because of it. There are low instances of it these days that it ever was before.

 

As for the RPG-7, of course some of us know that the RPG-7 is a simple rocket propelled grenade system made by the Soviets and many of them are still being sold by the Russians to whoever will buy it. Not to mention most countries have found ways of building cpies of it since it is so simple. Alot of shady shit goes on in that part of the world so it is only natural that the weapon pops up in numerous quantities. And what better way to threaten a ship than using something that can sink it?

 

Oh and once again, KVH made a valid point.

 

 

Exactly.

 

There are a shit-ton of weapons in that area and they're easy to get...and meanwhile the somalian dictators make it impossible to get any food, money, or other supplies, so that leaves one option....put the easily available weapons to use and plunder for some. It's a no brainer. And has little to do with Islamic Extremism