italiano_Pride Posted November 25, 2005 Posted November 25, 2005 I think the thing about it that I hate most, is people give a false sense of "GOOD WILL TOWARDS MAN". It makes me sick to see the fat Santa fucks standing around ringing a fucking bell collecting money for the needy so they can have a very happy over commercialized holiday day too. Oh lets help someone this fucking holiday season and fucking donate some canned goods and some fucking spare macaroni and fucking cheese so their poor broke ass has a fucking Christmas dinner.... yeah whoopy... hey mother fuckers, here's a hint.... POOR PEOPLE DON'T ONLY EAT ONCE A YEAR !! For fucks sake. What the fuck is up with that shit anyway ?? Then you have Wal-Mart Quote
Lethalfind Posted November 25, 2005 Posted November 25, 2005 And I would leap to Jenn's defense there. To make this fair, name one specific area of intelligence that you claim to be superior in. I will adjudicate, with the assistance of our illustrious People's Moderator, of course. I didn't mean to say I am more intelligent, I meant over the years you pick up experience that makes you feel more negative about things like the holidays. Because of this I envy her. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
Ruse Posted November 25, 2005 Posted November 25, 2005 Around every holiday I get depressed. Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas... the big ones. And birthdays. I had my sixteenth birthday let's see... a couple weeks ago, and believe me, if I were my friends, I would've clocked myself for being so moody. Around Christmas my dad goes through an end-year crisis. We have a huge A-frame house, so every year he goes out into the mountains and gets the tallest tree he can fit into the living room down. He insists on getting the old-fashioned tinsel, and buys it in bulk. He went to Wal-Mart one year and bought huge Christmas ornaments. I mean huge. Huge balls. Metallic colored, ugly, and in desperate need of being run over (which I have done with some of them. School project). He insists on using them every year. They're triple the size of my fist. One year he forced me to take a bunch of gift ribbon, cut them about two to three feet long in a dozen strands each, and curl them. My hands were bleeding and crap afterwards. We still have to use them every year. Here's an exerpt from a post in my journal last year a couple days before Christmas: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 I hate Christmas. I hate my father. I hate incompetence, and I hate the modern world. My father yelled at me because I didn't decorate the tree. He said "you've done nothing all day..." "I've done the laundry, the dishes..." "Cleaning doesn't matter." "So, you'd rather me not do your laundry? You'd like to wear dirty clothes over again?" I felt tempted to ask him if keeping a tree in the house matters. He told me my mood didn't make him want to go get me Christmas presents. o.O It's eleven o' clock at night, three days till Christmas and you're just now talking about shopping? That really encourages me to what? I've never once had a good Christmas with him there. I hate Christmas. I'm not a grinch. I'm a pessimist who hasn't been given the opportunity to change her veiws, because there's nothing that could change my mind. What the hell is having the point of a tree in the house? I'm not an environmentalist. So, for Jesus' sake, get that goddamn tree out of my livingroom. And I hate fake trees. When I get out of the house, I am not ever going to have a Christmas tree. Ever. Quote Invictus maneo. O imitarores, servum pecus! You make me wish I could lose half of my brains just so I can say I appreciated what you just said. "Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live." - Adolf Hitler Art of War. Atlas Shrugged. Not just books; Philosophy, and ways of life.
Hamza123 Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 Thanks for the encouragement Hamza but it truly does suck. Everywhere you turn you see families, Mom AND Dad... I am very thankful for one thing, Diane, my daughter has never known the kind of holidays I had growing up, the kind where someone was screaming at someone, my Dad leaving to avoid the fray. She is used to it being quiet. Today she told me she had a nice day. I don't know if you can miss something you have never had. Some of the traditions I miss. By the time I was 5 I could set an entire table, with all the extra flatware, multiple forks and glasses etc. My Grandmother taught me. We always tried to hide behind the trimmings of a formal sit down meal at my house. All the extra flatware didn't change the fact that I worried that at some point someone was going to start throwing the formal china and Grandmas Crystal. Diane and I sat at the formal dining table (passed down to me) and watched the Thanksgiving Day parade while we ate. So much more peaceful then what I grew up with. I do try and be thankful but it gets hard sometimes. Well true, but like you said, you always have someone like your daughter to look forward too. To think of people in countries like Africa, we truely are lucky and fortunate to live in such a well established nation. I understand that old tradtions that are no longer acceptable can be missed, but hey, thats just more reason to look forward to new traditions! As for the Thanksgiving Day parade. Well my uncle sent me some pretty cool pics! The nicest floats I have seen an awhile. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
TheJenn88 Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 I didn't mean to say I am more intelligent, I meant over the years you pick up experience that makes you feel more negative about things like the holidays. Because of this I envy her. Perhaps people may pick it up over the years. But, for serious, I used to be a total christmas grouch. I still am in some respects, because my family is not something I enjoy spending time with. I have to look for other sources of happiness outside of what surrounds me. I choose to make it a good time of year for myself because I know if I don't try, I'm just going to end up having an attitude like yourself, or others around here. It's worth it to try and make something out of ever minute, or at least the holiday season I am aware that I sound overly optimistic, but give me a break. I've had a great few days, and I'm just in a great mood and I want everyone to be in a good mood with me! and enjoy christmas music!! Quote
Lethalfind Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 Perhaps people may pick it up over the years. But, for serious, I used to be a total christmas grouch. I still am in some respects, because my family is not something I enjoy spending time with. I have to look for other sources of happiness outside of what surrounds me. I choose to make it a good time of year for myself because I know if I don't try, I'm just going to end up having an attitude like yourself, or others around here. It's worth it to try and make something out of ever minute, or at least the holiday season I am aware that I sound overly optimistic, but give me a break. I've had a great few days, and I'm just in a great mood and I want everyone to be in a good mood with me! and enjoy christmas music!! I'm glad you can do that. I normally spend the holidays trying to put on a happy face for my daughter. Thats not too say that its always that way the whole time, I do enjoy my time with her, but there comes a time during a holiday when in my mind the picture just included three people, a husband, wife and a daughter...I grew up dreaming of having my own family where I felt comfortable because I didn't have that as a child. Now it weighs on my mind, too much I'm sure. I'm normally fine until the actual day gets here, then I get a little down. I love decorating for Christmas, all the trappings. We have icicle lights for the outside of the house, last year I counted 9 different christmas trees, only one of them was a large one, I have many smaller ones that I put throughout the house. BUT when that day gets there and I'm watching Diane open her presents, trying on clothes, playing with toys, I wish so much for someone to say, remember last year when she did thus and so or when she was so small she couldn't even tear them open on her own, that kind of thing. I do it too myself. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
phreakwars Posted November 26, 2005 Author Posted November 26, 2005 Here's the thing people... I grew up on both sides of the fence when it comes to Christmas. I can remember all the cool presents when I was very young, yet I can remember the hardships of welfare. I guess the hardest part of the "WELFARE" Christmas, is the first few times.. Your toys were donated, and your Christmas dinner was made with commodities and food stamps. You don't get all the cool shit like you got in the past, and depression sets in, for not only the kids, but the parents. And one very strange thing that happens when the family hits hard times... A family knows who they are. It just seems to me, that people celebrate Christmas as a time of "settling old arguements, or rekindling relationships, " or some fucked up thing like that, while all the while us poor folk have been together all along. I think the extreme bitterness I feel about the holiday season, is probably pretty damn close to what everybody else feels. I think I can sum it up a bit more by saying the holiday seasons suck because the "LOVE" seems so fake. I just don't really need all the present giving and getting, or the nice ham dinner, or even a roof over my head to feel happy on a day that is meant to be a day of recognition to the birth of the alleged messiah whose teachings tell us that we need nothing but him to be happy. All I ever want is to be around the people who mean the most to me... After all, isn't that one of the promises of heaven ?? Might explain why we see such high suicide rates... Maybe I just think too much.... . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
Outlaw2747 Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 X-Mas I don't have too much of an issue with. It is VALENTINE'S DAY I despise the most. But I won't rant until that horrid excuse of a 24 hour period comes. Quote "I wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana." - Wall of Voodoo http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/fb910e0baa5b4e108ffee98f66cdb3cc.gif
Hamza123 Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 Here's the thing people... I grew up on both sides of the fence when it comes to Christmas. I can remember all the cool presents when I was very young, yet I can remember the hardships of welfare. I guess the hardest part of the "WELFARE" Christmas, is the first few times.. Your toys were donated, and your Christmas dinner was made with commodities and food stamps. You don't get all the cool shit like you got in the past, and depression sets in, for not only the kids, but the parents. And one very strange thing that happens when the family hits hard times... A family knows who they are. It just seems to me, that people celebrate Christmas as a time of "settling old arguements, or rekindling relationships, " or some fucked up thing like that, while all the while us poor folk have been together all along. I think the extreme bitterness I feel about the holiday season, is probably pretty damn close to what everybody else feels. I think I can sum it up a bit more by saying the holiday seasons suck because the "LOVE" seems so fake. I just don't really need all the present giving and getting, or the nice ham dinner, or even a roof over my head to feel happy on a day that is meant to be a day of recognition to the birth of the alleged messiah whose teachings tell us that we need nothing but him to be happy. All I ever want is to be around the people who mean the most to me... After all, isn't that one of the promises of heaven ?? Might explain why we see such high suicide rates... Maybe I just think too much.... . . No, no, you're right... I understand your hardships. I was dirt poor before my parents split. I think the religious or just simply the faithful side of Christmas is being forgotten. Time with your family is the best gift one can recieve... People may think it causes stress, but a whole family at the table having a great dinner, I find, is the best way to relieve stress. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Komrade Vostok Hazard Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 Damn, and here I was thinking it was the kids who are exploiting us parents with their guilt-trips. I'm so fucking confused now. ok I'll explain it: Company creates Santa Claus, a figure who all kids believe will give them presents if they're good Kids be good, and therefore expect gifts Kids will feel betrayed if they don't recieve expected gifts....No parent likes an unhappy kid. The kids do have a part yes, but we have the corporate mascot Santa Claus stirring the pot. Quote All bullshit, No Business.
berniec Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 What a depressing thread this has been to read. Everyone seems to have lost the point off what it is all about. A time off giving and forgiving,a time for families to get together and enjoy each others company even if is only once a year. A very,very early best wishes too you all. Quote
Jhony5 Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 What a depressing thread this has been to read. Everyone seems to have lost the point off what it is all about. A time off giving and forgiving,a time for families to get together and enjoy each others company even if is only once a year. A very,very early best wishes too you all. I would imagine that most of us scrooges actualy get into Xmas more then we admit. Venting like we are prevents us from being in the newspaper with headlines such as "Triple homicide/suicide at local shopping mall", and "Man stabs Security guard at Wal-Mart for asking to many questions". Quote i am sofa king we todd did.
RoyalOrleans Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 What a depressing thread this has been to read. Everyone seems to have lost the point off what it is all about. A time off giving and forgiving,a time for families to get together and enjoy each others company even if is only once a year. A very,very early best wishes too you all. What rock did you crawl out from under? Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
RoyalOrleans Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 The kids do have a part yes, but we have the corporate mascot Santa Claus stirring the pot. There lies the x-factor. There are those who don't believe in Santa, those who have been told there is not a Santa, those that found out accidently; but still expect gifts. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
Lethalfind Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 Here's the thing people... I grew up on both sides of the fence when it comes to Christmas. I can remember all the cool presents when I was very young, yet I can remember the hardships of welfare. I guess the hardest part of the "WELFARE" Christmas, is the first few times.. Your toys were donated, and your Christmas dinner was made with commodities and food stamps. You don't get all the cool shit like you got in the past, and depression sets in, for not only the kids, but the parents. And one very strange thing that happens when the family hits hard times... A family knows who they are. It just seems to me, that people celebrate Christmas as a time of "settling old arguements, or rekindling relationships, " or some fucked up thing like that, while all the while us poor folk have been together all along. I think the extreme bitterness I feel about the holiday season, is probably pretty damn close to what everybody else feels. I think I can sum it up a bit more by saying the holiday seasons suck because the "LOVE" seems so fake. I just don't really need all the present giving and getting, or the nice ham dinner, or even a roof over my head to feel happy on a day that is meant to be a day of recognition to the birth of the alleged messiah whose teachings tell us that we need nothing but him to be happy. All I ever want is to be around the people who mean the most to me... After all, isn't that one of the promises of heaven ?? Might explain why we see such high suicide rates... Maybe I just think too much.... . . I had always heard that people become very depressed over the holidays, however after working at the insurance company for mental health, I found that they don't often seek treatment during the holidays. Its after New Years that the numbers spike, people getting admitted, people w/ chemical dependancy problems due to depression...Evidently in spite of being depressed, they don't want to spend time in a straight jacket over the holidays, go figure... Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
italiano_Pride Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 I get that pre-holiday depression stuff a lot. It eats your soul, but then you get over it and life goes on. I look at it as kind of a cleaning myself out period. Quote
eisanbt Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 Evidently in spite of being depressed, they don't want to spend time in a straight jacket over the holidays, go figure... Never would have guessed... Thats quite the conundrum! Quote http://www.boohbah.com/zone.html "It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards" -Lewis Carroll
berniec Posted November 27, 2005 Posted November 27, 2005 What rock did you crawl out from under? Possibly the same one that you are still rotting under.Whats your beef? Quote
RoyalOrleans Posted November 27, 2005 Posted November 27, 2005 Possibly the same one that you are still rotting under.Whats your beef? No beef. Just asking a question. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
Lethalfind Posted November 27, 2005 Posted November 27, 2005 What a depressing thread this has been to read. Everyone seems to have lost the point off what it is all about. A time off giving and forgiving,a time for families to get together and enjoy each others company even if is only once a year. A very,very early best wishes too you all. You have obviously lived a VERY different life then I have if you believe the rot you just wrote... Maybe this thread will help you get a grasp that not everything is as it should be... AND by the way, you did notice the name of it right?? Don't every fuckin wish me a Merry Christmas. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
berniec Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 You have obviously lived a VERY different life then I have if you believe the rot you just wrote... Maybe this thread will help you get a grasp that not everything is as it should be... AND by the way, you did notice the name of it right?? Don't every fuckin wish me a Merry Christmas. Hmm, i see. So wishing you the best is wishing you a Merry Xmas. Ok then, what if i wish you the worst. Feel better. Quote
builder Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 My real beef about xmas is..............drum roll...............I don't get no fucking holiday pay. I wouldn't really know this was a problem, but I went and got a real job for three years and got four weeks holiday pay, plus pay in lieu of weekend overtime at time and half and double time on sundays for taxi work for my teaching job. Added up to seven glorious weeks of doing jack-shit on full pay. Every year. Damn, I miss that shit. Quote Persevere, it pisses people off.
Lethalfind Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 WOW, when I was working in Retail management I got double pay for holidays that I worked on, this included Christmas eve and several other dates throughout the year that are considered a holiday but we were open anyway. But nothing like that. I am going to love all the time off I have in between semesters. I get out of school 10 days earlier then my daughter and she is pissed... Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
Komrade Vostok Hazard Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 Originally Posted by berniec What a depressing thread this has been to read. Everyone seems to have lost the point off what it is all about. A time off giving and forgiving,a time for families to get together and enjoy each others company even if is only once a year. A very,very early best wishes too you all. Ok. Put the bong DOWN. You are obviously living in a fantasy world based on what people THINK it's supposed to be about. See, this is the problem. Everyone thinks that it's supposed to be a joyous time and everyone expects it to be perfect therefore resulting in hair-trigger emotions and overbearing behavior. And since one person's paradise is another person's prison, something is bound to snap. And usually does. Quote All bullshit, No Business.
Lethalfind Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 Ok. Put the bong DOWN. You are obviously living in a fantasy world based on what people THINK it's supposed to be about. See, this is the problem. Everyone thinks that it's supposed to be a joyous time and everyone expects it to be perfect therefore resulting in hair-trigger emotions and overbearing behavior. And since one person's paradise is another person's prison, something is bound to snap. And usually does. VERY well said, Komrade... I especially like "one person's paradise is another person's prison" How very true!! Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
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