The Darlie Routier Case

[RoyalOrleans]

Do you believe this woman's story?

 

Read over the evidence against her and what she has in her corner. She is now on Death Row in Gatesville, Texas, where she awaits death by lethal injection at a future date.

 

 

The Darlie Routier Case

[phreakwars]

This is why I would hate jury duty. The facts that were presented were all one sided, and I had not seen the prosecutions evidence in the case. I guess from an initial standpoint, I would say there are inconsistencies that make it seem very possible she is innocent, but I really can not see a prosecutor move forward with a prosecution if the evidence was all here-say.

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[Lethalfind]

I lived in Texas at the time this was going on and I think she is guilty but thats just an opinion and of course influenced by the media.

 

The movies of her celebrating at the graves of her dead children I think within a week of their death, spraying silly string, no tears to be seen are undeniable however.

She was laughing, cavorting etc. No sign of the grieving Mother.

[TheJenn88]

The prosecution must prove beyong a reasonable doubt that Ms. Routier is guilty. Did they? Was the trial process fair? In my opinion: no. Is she possibly guilty? Yes, but does it matter? No.

 

Unfortunately, our court systems are flawed in that the very thing we tell ourselves we're to base base it upon (evidence, reasonable doubt) is biased. Humans constantly let their opinions impair what the purpose they are supposed to serve is. If the evidence does not conclude that Ms. Routier is guilty, then you should vote not guilty, despite what your bias or prejudice may be. If there is suspicion that something went wrong in the court process, like with the Judge, there should be appeals allowed, or a mistrial.

 

Of course, what I speak of is far too ideal, and far to procedural to actually happen since people of the jury in this case tend to be more easily influenced by emotion, or circumstantial and biased evidence rather than by what their job is supposed to be - determining if Ms. Routier is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

Sadly, it is not really the jury's job to say that Ms. Routier is guilty or not guilty. There isn't a true way of actually being able to find that out, unless someone confesses. Instead, their job is to convict or acquit the accused of their charges based upon a logical, factual, truthful, and unbiased presentation of evidence. The evidence in this case was neither logical/factual, wholly truthful, or unbiased. For that there should be a mistrial, or at the very least, have her not face the death penalty. There is far too much inconclusive evidence and procedure to face such a penalty. Her innocence, or lack thereof is pretty irrelevant. All accused are entitled to the best possible. defence.

[Lethalfind]

I have a little more faith in the legal system in Texas then Jenn does. The facts were heard by a jury of her pears and they found her guilty. Thats good enough for me. I for one will not cry a tear when they put that needle in her vein. I hate it when women think that the law will look on them differently for being murderous bitches because their women. If women want equality, then they get it across the board and that includes being excuted for commiting murder in a state that has the death penalty.

[TheJenn88]

I have a little more faith in the legal system in Texas then Jenn does. The facts were heard by a jury of her pears and they found her guilty. Thats good enough for me. I for one will not cry a tear when they put that needle in her vein. I hate it when women think that the law will look on them differently for being murderous bitches because their women. If women want equality, then they get it across the board and that includes being excuted for commiting murder in a state that has the death penalty.

 

If that's good enough for you, than so be it. My personal opinion is that no group of people is good enough to make the ultimate decision of one's life for the death penalty.

 

But I agree that women should not hope/think that the law will treat them differently for their gender. They fought for equality, they got it - sort of, in most cases.

[Lethalfind]

If that's good enough for you, than so be it. My personal opinion is that no group of people is good enough to make the ultimate decision of one's life for the death penalty.

 

But I agree that women should not hope/think that the law will treat them differently for their gender. They fought for equality, they got it - sort of, in most cases.

 

Sorry but here in the States thats exactly who is nominated to make that decision. Its in our constitution. If not them then who? Or are you saying that the death penalty should be abolished altogether??

I would rather have a jury of my peers make that decision then say a panel of judges.

The same people that found her guilty then found she deserved the death penalty.

[TheJenn88]

Sorry but here in the States thats exactly who is nominated to make that decision. Its in our constitution. If not them then who? Or are you saying that the death penalty should be abolished altogether??

I would rather have a jury of my peers make that decision then say a panel of judges.

The same people that found her guilty then found she deserved the death penalty.

 

You know, I don't live in a box. I know that in the USA, decisions are made by a panel of juries

To be honest, I have no idea where I stand on the death penalty. In some ways, I think it's too humane, some cases I think it's just right, and sometimes its use is unjustified.

I'm complete opposite, though. I'd rather have a panel of judges make a decision instead of ordinary people. Ordinary people are too easily swayed.

[FreeDarlieNow]

Our Justice system is severly flawed. Darlie Lynn Routier is an innocent woman sitting on death row, The police even found bloodly fingerprints and pubic hair at the crime scene that do NOT match anyone in the Routier family. Darlie has lost her two babies, she's away from her soulmate and worst of all Drake has lost his Mother. Even if her conviction were to be overturned today she has lost her life, She missed all of Drakes firsts. The state of Texas has robbed her.

Thanks for allowing me to speak my peace.

[tiredofwhiners]

Looks to me like one of those bullshit lawyer fights. We got all this evidence but were going to pick what you can use. You can use this, this and this but even though you have this one you can't use it because you didnt do the right things to get it.

 

It's bullshit if its to do with the crime then it counts! I don't care if you had to fuck the dog to get it. This crap of someone holding a smoking gun when caught and confess, but gets off cuz the cop didnt read them there rights. It's all a bunch of lawyer bullshit, there's no true fucking justice. I don't know all the facts in this case...But if you murder someone you should die!

[FreeDarlieNow]

Looks to me like one of those bullshit lawyer fights. We got all this evidence but were going to pick what you can use. You can use this, this and this but even though you have this one you can't use it because you didnt do the right things to get it.

 

It's bullshit if its to do with the crime then it counts! I don't care if you had to fuck the dog to get it. This crap of someone holding a smoking gun when caught and confess, but gets off cuz the cop didnt read them there rights. It's all a bunch of lawyer bullshit, there's no true fucking justice. I don't know all the facts in this case...But if you murder someone you should die!

 

 

So to hell with Darlie the DA says she's guilty so she must be? Please clarify that, Because I have seen the case files on Darlie and I have written motions and briefs on her behalf. Darlie is an innocent as you and me. and if she's exacuted it will show just how Pro Death Penalty this country really is. The death penalty does not deter crime it enhances it. If the state can kill why not someone else.

[phreakwars]

Shit happens, if it's a fucking bum wrap then that's just the way life is. She can die in peace with her maker then knowing she is innocent. What's the fucking use anyways ?? This is a shitty fucking world to live in, why bother being free in it when the only thing happening in the free world is hatred and violence ?? So she won't be missing out on much shit, and she won't be in a fucking nursing home when shes old having someone wipe her ass... I kind of envy her..

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[tiredofwhiners]

So to hell with Darlie the DA says she's guilty so she must be? Please clarify that, Because I have seen the case files on Darlie and I have written motions and briefs on her behalf. Darlie is an innocent as you and me. and if she's exacuted it will show just how Pro Death Penalty this country really is. The death penalty does not deter crime it enhances it. If the state can kill why not someone else.

 

First off..I am pro death penalty. I've always said there should not be death row. There should be 2 cells one for the execution and one for the next in line. I said i don't know shit about Darlie so I'm not commenting on her case. What i said was a general comment about all trials. That last comment was just wrong! The state can do a lot of things we can't do. How do you know the death penalty does not deter crime? My take is the death penalty would deter crime even more if we took away appeals. Appeals are lawyers way to make more money, and a crock of shit. But I'm willing to read your thoughts, keep them coming.

 

Just in case you don't all ready think I'm scum in your book, I'm also pro choice.

[FreeDarlieNow]

Shit happens, if it's a fucking bum wrap then that's just the way life is. She can die in peace with her maker then knowing she is innocent. What's the fucking use anyways ?? This is a shitty fucking world to live in, why bother being free in it when the only thing happening in the free world is hatred and violence ?? So she won't be missing out on much shit, and she won't be in a fucking nursing home when shes old having someone wipe her ass... I kind of envy her..

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You poor misguided soul. If I were an innocent person sitting in a prison cell, I would want OUT. I would want to be free to do as I wanted not what some pussy whipped prison guard told me I HAD to to.

No, Darlie shouldn't have to die in prison, she should be able to die in the arms of her beloved husband or vice vera. The fact that you say that shows how Pro Death Penalty you are.

[FreeDarlieNow]

First off..I am pro death penalty. I've always said there should not be death row. There should be 2 cells one for the execution and one for the next in line. I said i don't know shit about Darlie so I'm not commenting on her case. What i said was a general comment about all trials. That last comment was just wrong! The state can do a lot of things we can't do. How do you know the death penalty does not deter crime? My take is the death penalty would deter crime even more if we took away appeals. Appeals are lawyers way to make more money, and a crock of shit. But I'm willing to read your thoughts, keep them coming.

 

Just in case you don't all ready think I'm scum in your book, I'm also pro choice.

 

 

Dear You're for death row. You mean you are not Anti death penalty. As I am and no you are not scum in my book, I am Pro-choice also, I value a differance in opinion, it's what makes the world go around. I hope to read more of your comments.

Just a question, Have you seen just how mant people have been tried, convicted sent to death row and been exacuted only to have been found to be innocent later? Unless a DA can show me concrete proof the Def. did and I don't mean an eye wittness or two, I could never send a person to D.R. You can have three people all wittness the same crime and you can bet that you will get three different accounts.

[Lethalfind]

You poor misguided soul. If I were an innocent person sitting in a prison cell, I would want OUT. I would want to be free to do as I wanted not what some pussy whipped prison guard told me I HAD to to.

No, Darlie shouldn't have to die in prison, she should be able to die in the arms of her beloved husband or vice vera. The fact that you say that shows how Pro Death Penalty you are.

 

I'm sorry but I don't buy for a MOMENT that you are anyone actually involved in the Darlie case...I think your an attention whore who has to come online to get someone to pay attention to you. Be serious, you have taken your argument to a blog sight on behalf of Darlie??? Come on, how stupid do you think we are???

 

Darlie in my opinion was a murderess of the worst kind...a killer of her own children. I saw the video of her celebrating at their graves...that was not pain and suffering we saw. She got what she deserved, pure and simple.

[tiredofwhiners]

Dear if you're pro death penalty, You're for death row. You mean you are Anti death penalty. As I am and no you are not scum in my book, I am Pro-choice also.

 

Read again i said there shouldn't be a death row only 2 cells. One for the execution and one for the next in line. Meaning there should never be a waiting line over one person.

 

I am surprised at you pro choice. How does that differ from the death penalty?

[FreeDarlieNow]

I'm sorry but I don't buy for a MOMENT that you are anyone actually involved in the Darlie case...I think your an attention whore who has to come online to get someone to pay attention to you. Be serious, you have taken your argument to a blog sight on behalf of Darlie??? Come on, how stupid do you think we are???

 

Darlie in my opinion was a murderess of the worst kind...a killer of her own children. I saw the video of her celebrating at their graves...that was not pain and suffering we saw. She got what she deserved, pure and simple.

 

 

You believe what you will, I don't really care. I know what I have personally done and am doing. I have also travelled to Plano, Tx where Darin is living now to visit with him his parents and Mrs. Kee. I, After meeting with them and hearing and seeing pictures and videos BEFORE the murders do not for one minute believe Darlie did murder her children. Parents grieve in their own way, Did you also know that before the birthday party there was a memorial? No, Because the DA didn't want that part let out. I've seen it, I've seen the tapes of Darlie crying and holding a picture of Damon and Devon. She was a devoted Mother to her sons and now she sits wrongfully convicted of murdering two of them.

[FreeDarlieNow]

Read again i said there shouldn't be a death row only 2 cells. One for the execution and one for the next in line. Meaning there should never be a waiting line over one person.

 

I am surprised at you pro choice. How does that differ from the death penalty?

 

 

I apologize I misread. The differance between being pro-choice and anti-death penalty is this one takes the life of something that has not yet taken it's first breath and is not deemed a person yet, The other takes the life of a born and breathing human being with rights and while he/she violated the law, it costs more to exacute them than to house them in prison for the rest of their natural lives.

[Lethalfind]

You believe what you will, I don't really care. I know what I have personally done and am doing. I have also travelled to Plano, Tx where Darin is living now to visit with him his parents and Mrs. Kee. I, After meeting with them and hearing and seeing pictures and videos BEFORE the murders do not for one minute believe Darlie did murder her children. Parents grieve in their own way, Did you also know that before the birthday party there was a memorial? No, Because the DA didn't want that part let out. I've seen it, I've seen the tapes of Darlie crying and holding a picture of Damon and Devon. She was a devoted Mother to her sons and now she sits wrongfully convicted of murdering two of them.

 

Actually at the time this happened, I lived in Texas and the film at the graveside was shown and it was said at the time that a memorial preceeded this morbid celebration at the graveside, which for me made it even seem even worse. How can you go and cry for your child at a memorial and then celebrate by spraying silly string and having a party on their graves the next?? Your so close to Darin?? Has he also told you the sad little story about how he was planning on hiring someone to break in the house as an insurance fraud?? Very interesting !!! I think the state of Texas did their job, your so called friend was suffering from post partum depression, taking medication and she had a little break with reality. Maybe she saw the children as something dragging her down, maybe she blamed them for the downturn her life was taking. In what I have read no one has said anything about whether the children were covered by life insurance?? Could it be she saw this as a way of pulling their expensive lifestyle out of the toilet AND getting rid of her children so she could get back to her skinny, self centered self???

 

How do you know when a lawyer is lying??? His lips are moving...

 

I have confidence in the legal system. I believe its posible for innocent people to be convicted but there are avenues of appeal. This woman has had 10 years and still no evidence provacative enough to shed real doubt on what happened. The sad diatribe of "my client has been railroaded" is the song of the guilty man, or woman as the case may be. Its interesting that this supposed perp all in black has not been found killing others in a similar fashion. I know for certain from a psychological point of view that this kind of killing, if a stranger is not a one time kind of thing. He will do it again. Where are your instances of similar crimes??

[FreeDarlieNow]

Actually at the time this happened, I lived in Texas and the film at the graveside was shown and it was said at the time that a memorial preceeded this morbid celebration at the graveside, which for me made it even seem even worse. How can you go and cry for your child at a memorial and then celebrate by spraying silly string and having a party on their graves the next?? Your so close to Darin?? Has he also told you the sad little story about how he was planning on hiring someone to break in the house as an insurance fraud?? Very interesting !!! I think the state of Texas did their job, your so called friend was suffering from post partum depression, taking medication and she had a little break with reality. Maybe she saw the children as something dragging her down, maybe she blamed them for the downturn her life was taking. In what I have read no one has said anything about whether the children were covered by life insurance?? Could it be she saw this as a way of pulling their expensive lifestyle out of the toilet AND getting rid of her children so she could get back to her skinny, self centered self???

 

How do you know when a lawyer is lying??? His lips are moving...

 

I have confidence in the legal system. I believe its posible for innocent people to be convicted but there are avenues of appeal. This woman has had 10 years and still no evidence provacative enough to shed real doubt on what happened. The sad diatribe of "my client has been railroaded" is the song of the guilty man, or woman as the case may be. Its interesting that this supposed perp all in black has not been found killing others in a similar fashion. I know for certain from a psychological point of view that this kind of killing, if a stranger is not a one time kind of thing. He will do it again. Where are your instances of similar crimes??

 

 

We had a rape and murder case here where a man was sent to prison and 20 years later in was deemed he was innocent of ALL charges. It turned out he was right all along. I believe the justice system stinks, for one the police in Darlie's case NEVER once looked outside of 5801 Eagle drive, They centered on Darin and Darlie from day one. What about the car that was seen in the neighborhood, The man many neighbors SAW leaving the house, The bloodly fingerprints that match NOONE in the Routier family, The pubic hair again that match NOONE in the family, The bruises on Darlie in areas that she in no way could have inflicted on herself, The slash wound came withing mm of her jugular vein yet the DA called it superfiscal (SP?) Stop listening to the media and the DA and actually look at the evidence, will you? Darlie is Innocent.

[Lethalfind]

We had a rape and murder case here where a man was sent to prison and 20 years later in was deemed he was innocent of ALL charges. It turned out he was right all along. I believe the justice system stinks, for one the police in Darlie's case NEVER once looked outside of 5801 Eagle drive, They centered on Darin and Darlie from day one. What about the car that was seen in the neighborhood, The man many neighbors SAW leaving the house, The bloodly fingerprints that match NOONE in the Routier family, The pubic hair again that match NOONE in the family, The bruises on Darlie in areas that she in no way could have inflicted on herself, The slash wound came withing mm of her jugular vein yet the DA called it superfiscal (SP?) Stop listening to the media and the DA and actually look at the evidence, will you? Darlie is Innocent.

 

Only you and Darlie know the truthe...of course and everyone else on death row is innocent...

Your delusional...If all this evidence is really there then why hasn't it been submitted as new evidence and a new trail date set to examine it?? Is the judge in on the conspiracy as well?? Their all against poor Darlie, poor white Darlie. In Texas if Darlie were black I might give more credence to what your saying because I know that being black is a dangerous thing in Texas, you don't get treated fairly, but we're talking about a white woman.

I don't believe you, I think your an attention whore who loves to fight for lost causes.. Pure and simple. Once Darlie is dead for her crimes you will take up another case just like this one to go on about, you won't be happy unless your singing about how its a conspiracy, everyone is against the good guy, the police, the DA, the judges everyone. Be serious.

[phreakwars]

You poor misguided soul.

Misguided ?? And what guide should I be following ??

If I were an innocent person sitting in a prison cell, I would want OUT. I would want to be free to do as I wanted not what some pussy whipped prison guard told me I HAD to to.

Yeah, well, who doesn't ??

No, Darlie shouldn't have to die in prison, she should be able to die in the arms of her beloved husband or vice vera.

Hey, death comes in many forms, many people don't get that benefit of dying that way, hers is just predetermined.

 

The fact that you say that shows how Pro Death Penalty you are.

Now your labeling me, it's more like I'm Pro-Don't give a fuck.

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[Lethalfind]

I get sick of the same old diatribe, I was railroaded, the police, the DA and the judges are all in this together to send me, an innocent person to jail...sounds so familiar becasuse we hear it all the time.

 

The reality is that people commit crimes that they are not willing to take the punishment for (one moment while I wipe away a tear). Too fuckin bad.

[phreakwars]

I wanna quote myself from my home town board when we were dicussing capitol punishment and murderers so you don't think I am being arrogant about this:

 

I agree, most all the guys who are now sitting in our prisons for murder, are NOT violent. The violent individuals are the punks and thugs who want something for free out of life. These things don't come the way THEY want it to, so they use violence to get it. I would actually trust being around 100 people who have murdered someone, then those who are disillusioned about how life should treat them.

 

And here's an interesting fact, most ANYBODY who has committed a murder, would NOT ever do this type of crime again, it's not because the system has reformed them, it's because at one point in there life something in them snapped and made them take another humans life.

 

Rational people, church going people, smart people, hard working people, somehow were driven to do the unthinkable.

 

If one could actually live with themselves and take MULTIPLE lives, then they should be fucking committed in an institution.

 

Have you ever seen someone die ??

 

I have, not only from working in nursing homes as a CNA, but seeing someone (3 people) die by getting a bullet to the head. Just a simple death from old age can leave an impact on how you view life, a VIOLENT death has a greater impact, especially on those who have committed it.

 

It's the non violent offenders who actually destroy our society.

 

Sure you have a murder here and there, but the real problem with our society ISN'T people being murdered, it's people who destroy THEMSELVES !!

 

But then, on the otherhand, if this is what society feels is a suitable punishment for those it has found guilty, to light up ole' sparky on their ass, then that is what they get. I actually think ole' sparky should be used for other crimes as well. Fucking make it a revolving door. And if an innocent is killed for a crime they never commited, then, that should be a lesson to people, that shit happens, and in the end, your still worm food.

 

Sure you'll be missed, and sure your death will feel unjustified by many, but life fucking goes on without you eventually.So get over it.

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