Stanley "Tookie" Williams

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Okay...I'm mega pissed off now.

 

Let me see if I get this one correct.

 

THUG creates mother of all gangs. THUG later murders 4 people. THUG gets convicted and sentenced to death and goes to prison, finds out that prison sucks ass and "changes" his perspective on life.

 

THUG writes about ills of gang life and gang this and that children's books.

 

THUG gets recommended for Nobel Prize.

 

THUG is UNREPENTANT and even has the balls to deny he had anything to do with the murders. THUG claims he was "setup" by WHITEY. Uh huh. Right.

 

THUG has website(s), 30,000 signatures, idiot celebrities, the entire country of France (Fuck the French - they are the most screwed up asswipes on the planet) and basically a whole trumpet section calling for clemency of his death sentence. Boo Hoo.

 

NOBODY is remembering the FOUR MURDERED VICTIMS.

 

Therefore, I will.

 

"Once inside the storage room, Williams, at gunpoint, ordered Albert Lewis Owens, age 23, to "lay down, mother fucker!" Williams then chambered a round into the shotgun. Williams then fired the round into the security monitor. Williams then chambered a second round and fired the round into Owens' back as he lay face down on the floor of the storage room. Williams then fired again into Owens' back. Both shots were point blank and fatal"

 

two weeks later...

 

"Williams, using his same shotgun, killed seventy-six year old Yen-I Yang; Williams also killed Yang's wife, sixty-three year old Tsai-Shai Yang; lastly, Williams killed Yang's daughter, forty-three year old Yee-Chen Lin. Williams then removed the currency from the cash register and fled the location. "

 

Fuck you Stanley "Tookie" Williams! Fuck You!!!

 

Execute this THUG for the crimes he committed as a THUG - NOW!.

 

No amount of good deeds will ever undo the 4 lives he stole. CRIME has PUNISHMENT. Time to pay the Piper Mr. Williams.

 

Personally, at the moment of your last breath on this Earth, I will be smiling knowing that justice has been served and my thoughts will be on the 4 people you murdered and their families, not you. You are forever unworthy.

 

No, I don't think the death penalty is a deterrent to anyone or anybody other than the one only important individual, the murderer themselves.

 

Stanley Williams, you fucking THUG, you will be forever deterred from doing anything to anybody ever again. Period. That's good enough for me. Goodbye Asshole and Good Riddance!"

[Outlaw2747]

Ya know, when I was on TAP they had a topic on this guy. I thought it be okay just for him to live out the rest of his life in jail instead of killing him so he can live miserably, especially since he TRIED to make better of himself. But then after I finished reading this right here about him DENYING the murders and BLAMING white people for it....fuck it. Whatever type of remorse I had for this guy is now gone. That wasn't mentioned on TAP (I need to start doing my own research now...). So now that this guy has realized what he did was wrong, as he nears death, he blames it on someone else and denies his actions? What kind of sense does that make? Not to mention the fact this knuckledragger created one of the biggest groups of chain wearing, street hugging, glock bearing simians the USA has ever known. I must ask myself...what was I thinking?

 

This guy should definitely pay, but I don't think death will do the trick...

 

I say psychological torture will be better. Make him feel the same fear and stress the victims of his shitbag gang feels. make him know what fear is everyday. make him feel the anguish and pain of those that have suffered. Just when you think the guy is making better of himself, he goes spewing out lies like that and then blames others for his problems.

[Crazywumbat]

Ok a couple things on this topic.

 

Firstly, I would be all for the death penalty IF it was executed in a reasonable amount of time. When your dog takes a shit on your carpet you punish him right away, you rub his nose in it and give him a nice hit on the rump to get your point across. YOU DON'T wait 20 days to do this, the dog will no longer realize what its being punished for.

 

YOU DON'T WAIT 20 YEARS TO FUCKING EXECUTE SOMEONE. In this time he has rehabilitated himself. He has tried to fix his the things he has fucked up. He has proven over and over that he is CLEARLY worth more to society dead than alive.

 

Secondly, not only Tooky dies here. Our ONLY clear mind into the workings of one of the most violent black gangs dies here too. We lose someone who clearly saw what the problem was that gangs were SUPPOSED to fix. We lose someone who can help us find a different answer. We lose a symbol that the nearly 1 million american citizens currently in gangs can find a way out. We lost a voice for change, one of the ONLY voices that people who need to listen will actually listen to. When he dies, living hope that people can change who they are and work to fix what the've done dies too.

 

What else dies with Tookie? The illusion that we aren't killers, too.

 

And finally, do you not realize how much gang violence will increase with his death? Sure he spoke out against the Crips in jail, but he was still their leader. They still hold ties of loyalty to him. When they see the justice system kill their "father" you better bet that they are gonna be quite livid. Not to mention, did you ever think that mabye some of the members of the Crips curtail their violence because they respect this man and knows he disaproves of it? With the fear of his disaproval lifted off their shoulders, whats to say they won't go out crimes to a more violent degree?

 

It is a tough decision to make, but one thing IS certain. Killing him will NOT get rid of any problems, if anything it will only make them worse.

[Hugh G. Rekshun]

YOU DON'T WAIT 20 YEARS TO FUCKING EXECUTE SOMEONE.

 

You do if you are in Cali-fucking-fornication!

 

I have a Ben Franklin riding on this one!!

I bet he GETS the needle. If "Ahnold" want's to regain some lost "Brownie Points" with his constituents he will deny this fucking Crip application for clemency.

As chief Bratton said, "Nobel piece prize? Hell, a ham sandwich can get nominated for one of those....it's time to serve justice. We don't need him in our system any longer. He is a cold-blooded murderer and he need to get what is coming to him"

 

Amen chief Bratton and fuck you Tookie you piece of simian shit!!

[snafu]

Ok a couple things on this topic.

 

Firstly, I would be all for the death penalty IF it was executed in a reasonable amount of time. When your dog takes a shit on your carpet you punish him right away, you rub his nose in it and give him a nice hit on the rump to get your point across. YOU DON'T wait 20 days to do this, the dog will no longer realize what its being punished for.

 

YOU DON'T WAIT 20 YEARS TO FUCKING EXECUTE SOMEONE. In this time he has rehabilitated himself. He has tried to fix his the things he has fucked up. He has proven over and over that he is CLEARLY worth more to society dead than alive.

 

Secondly, not only Tooky dies here. Our ONLY clear mind into the workings of one of the most violent black gangs dies here too. We lose someone who clearly saw what the problem was that gangs were SUPPOSED to fix. We lose someone who can help us find a different answer. We lose a symbol that the nearly 1 million american citizens currently in gangs can find a way out. We lost a voice for change, one of the ONLY voices that people who need to listen will actually listen to. When he dies, living hope that people can change who they are and work to fix what the've done dies too.

 

 

 

And finally, do you not realize how much gang violence will increase with his death? Sure he spoke out against the Crips in jail, but he was still their leader. They still hold ties of loyalty to him. When they see the justice system kill their "father" you better bet that they are gonna be quite livid. Not to mention, did you ever think that mabye some of the members of the Crips curtail their violence because they respect this man and knows he disaproves of it? With the fear of his disaproval lifted off their shoulders, whats to say they won't go out crimes to a more violent degree?

 

It is a tough decision to make, but one thing IS certain. Killing him will NOT get rid of any problems, if anything it will only make them worse.

 

I really hope you don’t believe this load of crap you just wrote.

The only part you got right was, don’t wait 20 years. Fry his ass how!

I don’t give a fuck about his working mind! You think he’s the only piece of shit we can get answers from? You don't think we've been profiling fuckheads like this already?

There’s plenty out there.

 

We should be shaking if they kill him and his gangs rise up. Oooooooo.

Wouldn’t that be like condoning extortion?

 

Don't bother them and the just might go away

[Crazywumbat]

I really hope you don

[snafu]

Yes I meant they should'nt have waited. Swift justice is the right thing to do.

I don’t give a shit who he is!! That’s all the more reason to terminate him.

You make it sound like we need to put him on a pedestal. Should we get him his own statue too?

Your right I don’t have to worry about the Crips. That’s why I don’t live in fucked up States. Doesn’t mean that I would think any different if I did live in Philly (where I have family). I still wouldn’t stick my head in the sand.

 

And I’ll bet you could get at least half of Philly to volunteer to stick the needle in. I’m sure there’s plenty out there that want revenge on the Crips. Don’t feel sorry for them.

[slip_knot]

STRING THIS FILTH UP RIGHT NOW

[Crazywumbat]

Yes I meant they should'nt have waited. Swift justice is the right thing to do.

I don

[Outlaw2747]

From Wikipedia...

 

The Crips were formed by Stanley Tookie Williams, and Raymond Washington in 1971, after the two became fed up with random violence in their neighborhood.

 

So they are basically fighting gratuitous violence with gratuitous violence. That makes a whole lot of fucking sense. Not to mention the other illegal bullshit that goes on. I wouldn't want these fucks "protecting" my city.

[Hamza123]

STRING THIS FILTH UP RIGHT NOW

 

Your past remarks about african-americans don't validate your comments you say now, therefore this shows to me that what you just said is out of hate and not out of what's right.. Ex. Putting away a murderer.

 

The fact is. Some people wan't tookie dead, but for all the wrong reasons. Thats why people are rallying for his life.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

"Tookie" Williams needs to DIE, Tuesday. End of story.

 

He MURDERED not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 (Yes, that's fucking FOUR) people in cold blood.

 

I don't care if he was as holy and pious as Pope John Paul II, he needs to die in payment for his CRIMES (plural).

 

The fact that he founded the mother of all street gangs is just more filth on an already fucked up existence.

 

Good Bye Tookie! I'm awaiting the moment of your death.

[builder]

I still prefer the old English tradition of locking them in the head-stocks, and walking away.

 

Only the most depraved amongst us would take advantage of such a situation, so the guilty would get exactly what is coming to them.

[hugo]

Your past remarks about african-americans don't validate your comments you say now, therefore this shows to me that what you just said is out of hate and not out of what's right.. Ex. Putting away a murderer.

 

The fact is. Some people wan't tookie dead, but for all the wrong reasons. Thats why people are rallying for his life.

 

They want him dead because he was a vicious multiple murderer. I realize Islam finds murder is OK.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

Your past remarks about african-americans don't validate your comments you say now, therefore this shows to me that what you just said is out of hate and not out of what's right.. Ex. Putting away a murderer.

 

The fact is. Some people wan't tookie dead, but for all the wrong reasons. Thats why people are rallying for his life.

 

The logic of islam...

Execute a mass murderer = BAD

Execute an apostate = GOOD

 

What a great religion!

[slip_knot]

Outlaw writes:

 

I say psychological torture will be better. Make him feel the same fear and stress the victims of his shitbag gang feels. make him know what fear is everyday. make him feel the anguish and pain of those that have suffered. Just when you think the guy is making better of himself, he goes spewing out lies like that and then blames others for his problems.

 

I agree absolutely that he should experience the terror, and pain that he has inflicted on others. I believe that after a guilty verdict ,scum like this should be informed that it has six months to live. Let him sweat the time out. He should know that he will be hung. And I don't mean dropped through a hatch to quickly break his lousy neck. He should be winched up slowly, to die by slow strangulation. Vindictive? Evil? Probably. But he has inflicted such terror on others and enjoyed it. I think the whole episode should be filmed and shown to scumbags on probation, who have not as yet travelled that far down their crime path. It would be good for them to see this arse-hole weeping and crying for his mother. Begging for mercy- something he would not give to his victims. Pissing and shitting in his pants.

 

And hey. I'd enjoy it too.....

[Crazywumbat]

"Tookie" Williams needs to DIE, Tuesday. End of story.

 

He MURDERED not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 (Yes, that's fucking FOUR) people in cold blood.

 

I don't care if he was as holy and pious as Pope John Paul II, he needs to die in payment for his CRIMES (plural).

 

The fact that he founded the mother of all street gangs is just more filth on an already fucked up existence.

 

Good Bye Tookie! I'm awaiting the moment of your death.

 

I'm not gonna say if he deserves life or death. I would certainly not advocate him getting anything less than a lifes sentence. But I would be willing to bet my life that atleast double the amount of people he killed WILL be killed on the day of his execution for retribution.

 

So what would you rather have? One dead ex-murdere who has tried to reform himself, of a dozen dead innocent members of society?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I'm not gonna say if he deserves life or death. I would certainly not advocate him getting anything less than a lifes sentence. But I would be willing to bet my life that atleast double the amount of people he killed WILL be killed on the day of his execution for retribution.

 

So what would you rather have? One dead ex-murdere who has tried to reform himself, of a dozen dead innocent members of society?

 

 

The logic you use to justify this is unbelievable not to mention straight from the mouth of political spin artists.

 

I don't buy this line of bullshit for a moment.

[Crazywumbat]

The logic you use to justify this is unbelievable not to mention straight from the mouth of political spin artists.

 

I don't buy this line of bullshit for a moment.

 

How is it unbelievable? The Crips are not an organization of logical people. If they kill hundreds of people each year for no reason what so ever, why do you think they won't kill a greater amount when they have something like this to provoke them?

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

I'm not gonna say if he deserves life or death. I would certainly not advocate him getting anything less than a lifes sentence. But I would be willing to bet my life that atleast double the amount of people he killed WILL be killed on the day of his execution for retribution.

 

So what would you rather have? One dead ex-murdere who has tried to reform himself, of a dozen dead innocent members of society?

Oh great, just threaten a little and get your way! I bet your parents gave into all of your tantrums as a child.

 

P.S. I can't wait for the riots to start in my neighborhood... I need the target practice!

[hugo]

Oh great, just threaten a little and get your way! I bet your parents gave into all of your tantrums as a child.

 

P.S. I can't wait for the riots to start in my neighborhood... I need the target practice!

 

YES, LET'S NOT PUNISH CRIMINALS. SOMEONE MIGHT GET MAD.

[RoyalOrleans]

From Wikipedia...

 

 

 

So they are basically fighting gratuitous violence with gratuitous violence. That makes a whole lot of fucking sense. Not to mention the other illegal bullshit that goes on. I wouldn't want these fucks "protecting" my city.

 

The Sicilian Mafia operated the same way.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

The Sicilian Mafia operated the same way.

not a new idea, but not a good idea either.

[RoyalOrleans]

not a new idea, but not a good idea either.

 

At least the Sicilians dressed nice.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

At least the Sicilians dressed nice.

I don't guess "bling" was in style at the turn of the previous century.