Tookie terminated

[hopeUslide]

Satisfaction for the relatives of those killed.

One less criminal requiring housing and feeding.

Termination sets an example for other crips.

Arnold stands strong and does not bow to pressure.

Supreme court upholds ruling.

 

Tookie

no remorse for victims

seen error of his ways, too little too late

does not donate body to science....................TERMINATED

[slip_knot]

Goodbye filth. I hope they bodged it and you suffered immensely.

[slip_knot]

I,ve just read this crap:

 

"Too often I hear the governor and many who are around him talk about his values system," said NAACP President Bruce S. Gordon. "In this particular case, those values seem to be cast aside. There is absolutely no recognition given to redemption.

 

Nor should there be any recognition given to "redemption" It is a rediculous argument. Imagine me throttling a member of your family. Soon enough I'm writing books for children, and helping old ladies across the street. Then myself and others are suggesting i'm a nice guy and should be spared the death penalty. RUBBISH

 

You cannot undo what you have done. And if you murder people, expect the death penalty. Well done Arnold for holding fast.

[RoyalOrleans]

Here's the article...

 

http://story.news.ask.com//article/20051213/D8EF95FO7.html

[builder]

Death is release from suffering. I say make the bastards work for their suffering.

 

Ever see the movie, "Cool Hand Luke"? Or "The Shawshank Redemption"?

 

Get them honkies out there shovelling shit, getting whipped around by angry fuckers, getting their skin burned by the sun, their arses ground down to the bone working twelve hours in the hot sun. Get them fuckers doing all the shit jobs that need to be done, that no one else wants to do. Let them know why they are doing shit jobs that no one else wants to do.

 

Keep them at it until their sorry arses die doing it.

 

Death is the easy way out. Keep these fuckers alive, and work them into wanting death. Forty years hard labour, working for the state they shat on when they committed crime. If they escape, shoot them in the legs. Then make them shovel shit on their knees till their legs heal. Death is too humane. Hard labour for life is what will cure them or kill them.

[slip_knot]

builder says:

 

Death is the easy way out. Keep these fuckers alive, and work them into wanting death. Forty years hard labour, working for the state they shat on when they committed crime. If they escape, shoot them in the legs. Then make them shovel shit on their knees till their legs heal. Death is too humane. Hard labour for life is what will cure them or kill them.

 

You have convinced me. This is absolutely spot on. The only problem is if the turds ever escape

[Outlaw2747]

Death is release from suffering. I say make the bastards work for their suffering.

 

Ever see the movie, "Cool Hand Luke"? Or "The Shawshank Redemption"?

 

Get them honkies out there shovelling shit, getting whipped around by angry fuckers, getting their skin burned by the sun, their arses ground down to the bone working twelve hours in the hot sun. Get them fuckers doing all the shit jobs that need to be done, that no one else wants to do. Let them know why they are doing shit jobs that no one else wants to do.

 

Keep them at it until their sorry arses die doing it.

 

Death is the easy way out. Keep these fuckers alive, and work them into wanting death. Forty years hard labour, working for the state they shat on when they committed crime. If they escape, shoot them in the legs. Then make them shovel shit on their knees till their legs heal. Death is too humane. Hard labour for life is what will cure them or kill them.

 

Dude, you said that way better than I ever could. Put the fucking bastards to use. But for now, this Tookie guy is gonna get killed. The problem is the method. He is getting it so easy compared to his victims.

[builder]

I have no pity for the scum of this earth. Killing them is pitiful. It is also painless. I want to see them suffer, just as they caused suffering. I want to see them grovel, just as they caused their victims to grovel. Eye for an eye does not mean the end result; it means the entire process. Let the end result be the result of their grapple with the struggle. If they survive it, they can go free. After forty years of it, they might have learnt something about human nature.

[Outlaw2747]

Well, the dude's gone. People are STILL trying to protest as if it is going to make a lick of difference. Now all we do is wait and see what will ensue now...

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I disagree.

 

Execution is the ultimate statement of a society, that the person executed had no value whatsoever. They were worthless. I agree. Most criminals are worthless and unworthy of the cost and responsibility in keeping them alive.

 

I envy the Chinese in their system of criminal punishment. I love the fact that they once sent the bill for the bullet to the criminals surviving family.

 

I'm also a huge fan of Vlad the Impaler. Say what you want but he had virtually no crime in his kingdom during his reign. Commit a crime; get impaled on a giant stake. Simple.

 

When I was young, I was idealistic as are most young people. I wanted to save the world. Ha. The world doesn't want to be saved.

 

Now, with the tempering of a few more years, I've learned to be realistic.

 

I have neither the time, money, nor inclination to do anything with criminals and murderers save executing them. I truly believe that the way to a peaceful society is by having such a Draconian system of punishment that people stay in line and crime free from FEAR.

 

Yes, FEAR is a magnificent deterrent and nothing instills fear like the concept of emptying out the prison system through multiple executions. If I had my way, everybody on death row, would be dead within 6 months. Period.

 

Lastly, we need to execute people for more than murder; how about rape, child molestation, armed robbery, grand larceny, corporate embezzlement and fraud, stock market manipulation, child abuse, elder abuse, and a few more here and there.

 

I supposed that perhaps people like the Crazywombat would say that I'm evil, or insane, or bitter, but in truth I am the exact opposite.

 

I love our society, I love peaceful neighborhoods, and I love truth and honesty and fairplay. I am prepared to do the dirty work to protect those things which I hold so dear.

 

Lastly, some argue that the death penalty doesn't deter. If applied correctly, it sure the hell does. Currently there are approximately 3,415 convicted murderers on death row in the United States. Imagine the SHOCK & AWE effect it would have if by next Tuesday, there were 0. None. Nada. Zip. All Dead. Not to mention the cost savings. But then again critics claim it costs more to execute a criminal than to keep them in prison. I have a solution for that. Subcontract it out like every other government need. I bet, that in order to maintain the “Most Favored Nation” trading status with us, China would be glad to execute our criminals for us in a most cost effective means. Single, hollow point assault rifle bullets to the back of the head are FAST, cheap and always 100% effective and they would even dispose of the corpse for us. No grave, no mess, no fuss. Simple and cheap.

 

Think about it! It would scare the living shit out of the criminals! I could read their minds now... "Oh Fuck! If I do this and get caught, they are going to convict me and send my ass to China and they are going to kill me and they aren't kidding." Street gangs would die out almost overnight and violent crime would drop like a rock.

[boxarox]

Currently there are approximately 3,415 convicted murderers on death row in the United States. Imagine the SHOCK & AWE effect it would have if by next Tuesday, there were 0. None. Nada. Zip.

 

"Hell yea!" and look at all the rooms it would free up for pot smokers and traffic offenders.

[builder]

I disagree.

 

Execution is the ultimate statement of a society, that the person executed had no value whatsoever. They were worthless. I agree. Most criminals are worthless and unworthy of the cost and responsibility in keeping them alive.

 

I envy the Chinese in their system of criminal punishment. I love the fact that they once sent the bill for the bullet to the criminals surviving family.

 

I'm also a huge fan of Vlad the Impaler. Say what you want but he had virtually no crime in his kingdom during his reign. Commit a crime; get impaled on a giant stake. Simple.

 

When I was young, I was idealistic as are most young people. I wanted to save the world. Ha. The world doesn't want to be saved.

 

Now, with the tempering of a few more years, I've learned to be realistic.

 

I have neither the time, money, nor inclination to do anything with criminals and murderers save executing them. I truly believe that the way to a peaceful society is by having such a Draconian system of punishment that people stay in line and crime free from FEAR.

 

Yes, FEAR is a magnificent deterrent and nothing instills fear like the concept of emptying out the prison system through multiple executions. If I had my way, everybody on death row, would be dead within 6 months. Period.

 

Lastly, we need to execute people for more than murder; how about rape, child molestation, armed robbery, grand larceny, corporate embezzlement and fraud, stock market manipulation, child abuse, elder abuse, and a few more here and there.

 

I supposed that perhaps people like the Crazywombat would say that I'm evil, or insane, or bitter, but in truth I am the exact opposite.

 

I love our society, I love peaceful neighborhoods, and I love truth and honesty and fairplay. I am prepared to do the dirty work to protect those things which I hold so dear.

 

Lastly, some argue that the death penalty doesn't deter. If applied correctly, it sure the hell does. Currently there are approximately 3,415 convicted murderers on death row in the United States. Imagine the SHOCK & AWE effect it would have if by next Tuesday, there were 0. None. Nada. Zip. All Dead. Not to mention the cost savings. But then again critics claim it costs more to execute a criminal than to keep them in prison. I have a solution for that. Subcontract it out like every other government need. I bet, that in order to maintain the

[builder]

Yes, but your system relies totally on a fair and just court process, which also relies closely on an unimpeachable, honest, and fair government. The former having at it's head, those voted in by the latter.

 

My system relies on infallible traits found within many people.

[ToriAllen]

Death is release from suffering. I say make the bastards work for their suffering.

 

Ever see the movie, "Cool Hand Luke"? Or "The Shawshank Redemption"?

 

Get them honkies out there shovelling shit, getting whipped around by angry fuckers, getting their skin burned by the sun, their arses ground down to the bone working twelve hours in the hot sun. Get them fuckers doing all the shit jobs that need to be done, that no one else wants to do. Let them know why they are doing shit jobs that no one else wants to do.

 

Keep them at it until their sorry arses die doing it.

 

Death is the easy way out. Keep these fuckers alive, and work them into wanting death. Forty years hard labour, working for the state they shat on when they committed crime. If they escape, shoot them in the legs. Then make them shovel shit on their knees till their legs heal. Death is too humane. Hard labour for life is what will cure them or kill them.

They no longer use violent criminals because of flight risk. We have criminals that do the grounds work at my college. I could not imagine having a murderer or rapist doing those jobs. I would not go to school there anymore, because I would not feel safe.

 

The only thing I would change is the method of death. I think the families of the victims should each get a chance beating the shit out of him. If he is still alive then he should be killed in the way that he killed his victim. If he raped her first, then he should be raped, if he tortured her, then he should be tortured. Now, that is justice.

[tiredofwhiners]

They no longer use violent criminals because of flight risk. We have criminals that do the grounds work at my college. I could not imagine having a murderer or rapist doing those jobs. I would not go to school there anymore, because I would not feel safe.

 

The only thing I would change is the method of death. I think the families of the victims should each get a chance beating the shit out of him. If he is still alive then he should be killed in the way that he killed his victim. If he raped her first, then he should be raped, if he tortured her, then he should be tortured. Now, that is justice.

 

I couldn't agree more and if the family doesnt want to do it, then there should be a lottery so others can sign up to take there place. And if the dude was a rapist then he gets tied over a table in a prison yard, and is open season for as many times as he was convicted for.

[slip_knot]

ces writes:

Lastly, some argue that the death penalty doesn't deter. If applied correctly, it sure the hell does.

 

I agree with you entirely. Capitol punishment does work 100% because the reoffence rate is 0 %

[slip_knot]

ces writes:

 

I truly believe that the way to a peaceful society is by having such a Draconian system of punishment that people stay in line and crime free from FEAR.

 

I have to agree with this too. Even though most folks are poor, you do not see much crime in Thailand. Everbody there knows only too well what will happen if they engage in thoughless violence once they are caught.

 

A holiday in Thailand is a breath of fresh. It is amazing how safe you feel.

[Crazywumbat]

Lastly, we need to execute people for more than murder; how about rape, child molestation, armed robbery, grand larceny, corporate embezzlement and fraud, stock market manipulation, child abuse, elder abuse, and a few more here and there.

 

I supposed that perhaps people like the Crazywombat would say that I'm evil, or insane, or bitter, but in truth I am the exact opposite.

 

Hey now, I wouldn't say you were evil. I mean, I certainly don't think that fraud, stock market manipulation, robbery, etc. should be punishable by death, thats just a tad bit extreme, but I think death is too easy an escape for rapists and child molesters. Atleast in a murder, the victim has the benefit of actually dieing, or if they survive in the case of an attempted murder, they usually don't suffer from repercussions of it in the future. Victims of rape and molestation live with the pain for the rest of their lives, which often severely screws up the better part of the rest of their lives.

 

So my suggested punishment for severe sex offenders would be something along the following: Firstly, removal of all appendages (arms, legs, phallus, etc.). Secondly, desctruction of basic senses (deafen them, blind them, sever vocal cords, etc.). Finally, after all this, force them to remain alive. Destroy everything they could possibly derive pleasure from, make life for them a punishment worse than what they inflicted on others during their own pitiful existence.

 

Yeah, I know thats just a tad bit on the extreme side, and would be rather impracticle, but you have to admit, it would scare the shit outta alot of sex offenders.