phreakwars Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 Oh boy, where to begin ?? http://www.columbustelegram.com/ I used to have a subscription to this piece of shit newspaper, but day in and day out all one could ever read in it, is about someone smacking someone around, some crack head getting busted, or some other bullshit thing having to do with the daily courthouse news. They always try to make a point on reporting about shit NOBODY gives a rats ass about. If you wanted to read REAL opinions on how people in my home town think, you would need to read the online opinion boards... evidently, the Telegram does not believe in free speech.. On several occasions posts were deleted from the board, I am not talking about defamatory posts either, I am speaking of posts which were very relevant and very frank in there opinions. I along with a couple others were BANNED from the boards because we chose to exercise our constitutional rights to free speech. It really amazes me that a newspaper, which, by all accounts, should be advocates to freedom of speech and freedom of the press, would censor what the community has to say. There are many open discussions about the way business and pleasure is conducted in Columbus, yet, if the wrong persons name is mentioned, the Telegram admin deletes the posts. One of the issues is the proposal for a new viaduct in town, most of Columbus' residents feel that we as tax payers should have a vote on this, yet our fine town committee seems to think that THEY should be the ones deciding. Hard opinions start to fly, and next thing you know, censorship occurs..The commitee knows what's best... after all we voted for them.. . Yet none of them care what people REALLY have to say !! . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
ImWithStupid Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 I too used to subscribe to this rag but it was the same old shit over and over. Any real news is watered down so as not to offend certain people in the community. I don't have any desire to renew this unless it gets cheeper to buy this rag then toilet paper because all it would really be good for is wiping asses. The forum page was one way to see how other people in the community really felt but like you said that gets censored also. I like where you are going with this and if they ever bring the board back up you'll have to post a link to this thread. Keep up the good work for the First Amendment, Phreak. Quote
builder Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 Keep up the good work for the First Amendment, Phreak. Any support for the constitution is admirable at this sorry point in time. Quote Persevere, it pisses people off.
tiredofwhiners Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 Hell you can buy the World Herald today and know whats in the telegram tomorrow. Quote AA's for quitters...i'm no quitter!
kaml9577 Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 I don't buy the telegram, never subscribed to it... didn't care. When I first moved down here 8 years ago, my inlaws told me, get the telegram so you know whats going on around here. I said WHY?? I am not from here, I don't know those people, and I don't care! After 8 years, I go on the web site to check to see if anyone my inlaws know died... and to look at the piss poor selection of new jobs advertised. maybe an occasional garage sale or something to do with sports. I can do all of this on line..FREE... and not pay those dumb asses a cent. I have several people say... go to work for the telegram and do thier ad's for them.. .NO WAY IN HELL!!! I know to many people who have, and they said they are just a bunch of crooks who don't give a shit if you have an experience or talent, they will go behind you, change your shit and do thier way anyhow. Don't get me started on the Telegram... might take me all day to run down thier lack of efficiencies for this commuity. 1 Quote
scout Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 When there are serious issues reguarding Columbus you could go to the opinion board more than the paper to let you know better what was going on. We used to buy a subscription for my Mom but she doesn't even want it anymore. The online version doesn't even run correctly lately. I've no reason to read it any longer without the opinion page. Matt left the Telegram - believe the new editor is Jean somebody. Anybody know anything about the signifigance (sp) of this? Quote
phreakwars Posted July 25, 2006 Author Posted July 25, 2006 If you post on the HOT TOPICS column of the paper, JIM DEAN will only allow posts that he wants to be seen shown, so don't think you are EVER getting an accurate debate from posts that are presented Jim Dean sets his own agenda, so your "VOICE" will probably not matter... I'm glad the GF Agenda ranks higher on google, and I have an ability to summon hidden posts... see ya on the web Jim. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
hugo Posted July 25, 2006 Posted July 25, 2006 Any support for the constitution is admirable at this sorry point in time. There are no 1st amendment issues here. A private enterprise can censor as they wish. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
phreakwars Posted July 25, 2006 Author Posted July 25, 2006 I took the liberty of removing myself, and all posts that have accumulated over the past 4 years that were left over after he erased the archives. I'll call it... CREATIVE DIFFERENCES. I will NEVER change my writing style for anybody. And what I wrote belongs to me, he bitched about ME stealing copyright material from him, surely I will not let HIM have my material either. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
snapshot Posted July 25, 2006 Posted July 25, 2006 Sorry to see your posts gone from the Telegram - you brought very good points and solutions to the issue. Quote
tiredofwhiners Posted July 25, 2006 Posted July 25, 2006 How long does it take to go mess up every post you've made? We just need to get the regulators to come here, then we can continue on. Quote AA's for quitters...i'm no quitter!
eddo Posted July 25, 2006 Posted July 25, 2006 I took the liberty of removing myself, and all posts that have accumulated over the past 4 years that were left over after he erased the archives. I'll call it... CREATIVE DIFFERENCES. I will NEVER change my writing style for anybody. And what I wrote belongs to me, he bitched about ME stealing copyright material from him, surely I will not let HIM have my material either. . . Would you like some cheese with your whine? Quote I'm trusted by more women.
phreakwars Posted July 25, 2006 Author Posted July 25, 2006 OR MAYBE IT WAS THIS ONE: http://Off Topic Forum.com/showpost.php?p=948312&postcount=15 . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
eddo Posted July 25, 2006 Posted July 25, 2006 O.K....my site sucks worse. Please permanently idiot box me. Quote I'm trusted by more women.
phreakwars Posted July 26, 2006 Author Posted July 26, 2006 Why I left the board: First of all, I REALLY hate it when people speculate. I did NOT leave because of anything Jim Dean has done to me. I left because of something I see happening.... GOOD PEOPLE are not getting a fair voice in the public. While I openly admit I love to stir up a commotion, and I love to be very frank and controversial, the root of all my actions is to generate various conversations from the community, and to stimulate people into giving heartfelt and well thought out opinions concerning the community they live in. I have witnessed posts created by posters other then myself, get removed from not only the opinion boards, but the hot topics column of the online version of the paper. Posts that not only complied with the community standards that Jim Dean himself set, but contained content in which the poster only gave their honest view of the topics. I found no such evidence of SLANDER, DEROGATORY REMARKS, COURSE LANGUAGE, LIBEL, DEFAMETORY COMMENTS, OR EVEN ANYTHING RESEMBLING SO MUCH AS AN INSULT in these people's post.. But what I DID find, that what they all had in common, is these posts ALL contained thoughts, ideas, and suggestions that were in opposition to conceptual ideas created by Jim Dean or members of the Telegram staff. In short... he didn't like peoples opinions, so he censored them from public view... Not as easy to do in the opinion board, as it is in the "HOT TOPICS" column and feedback fields, which is where these posts were.. BLATANT BIAS !! Why Mr. Dean ?? Why were people like Pete Buttaro amongst other, censored from stating their opinions ?? In the hidden forums of GF is a discussion where I had brought up the comment made by Mr. Buttaro... I, along with many other members of the Columbus online community, are witness to you removing it from the public's eye. A comment that could originally be found HERE. Mr. Dean, I challenge you to put that comment back where it originally was so that OTHERS can scrutinize over what I am saying.. It was the VERY FIRST comment posted. Do not tell me it is now forever gone, because I know better. Let people see what it is, that you felt had no business being on the board.. BETTER YET... LETS CALL UP MR. BUTTARO HIMSELF AT 402-562-5509 and ask him PERSONALLY what it was that you deleted. But then, this is just one example of many.. A trend that I and others like myself, are getting fed up with.. But, instead of making an issue out of it on the Columbus boards, where, like many other posts, it is subject to being deleted, I chose a different approach. I chose to leave.. I did this for one reason only.... to legitimize my claim of censorship among board posters. If I would have simply stated that posters are being censored, the topic would have simply desintegrated into people accusing me of being upset with Mr. Dean for censoring myself... which isn't the case... So instead, I chose to remove what was left of 4 years worth of posts by me, and remove the topics which I had started, and leave the board.. I can not bring myself to be a part of a community board where I have to second guess whether my fellow posters are being censored and blocked from stating their own opinions because they do not coincide with the views of the Editor or any others who are in control of the boards administration.. And again, I need to ask Mr. Dean.... does he want an opinion board... or does he want a board where people can only agree with his perspective.. The COLUMBUS TELEGRAM is a journalistic entity that is privately owned. Mr. Dean has the right to put anything he wants on the board, and has a right to post any comments he likes... HIS YARD, HIS RULES... But one needs to ask themselves... would you want to be a part of a home town community board where your opinion may not be heard because the owner doesn't like your perspective ?? Personally, I would rather he spend his time scrutinizing and deleting my crude behavior, then scrutinizing over the opinions of the good people of Columbus. THAT is why I trashed all my posts.. it might be YOUR yard, but it is MY CREATIVE CONTENT, just like the pictures he bitched about me using, I do not want the Columbus Telegram using content created by me without my permission. So I removed it. In summary, I will never again comment on the Telegram boards or the "HOT TOPICS", nor any other comment section of the board, unless I can be assured that it is Moderated properly, and in an UNBIASED fashion... thank you..and I apoligize for being a Gung-Ho Liberal bastard. But I will make this an issue with the WORLD if I have to Mr. Dean We are #1 on google for saying it like it is, and getting our message across... LINK . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
Mack the Knife Posted July 26, 2006 Posted July 26, 2006 It is a shame you're gone now, my mindless banter about shoppings cart races and elves won't have the same ramifications without you. Quote http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/f0f5ca4439cc64cb06447f054d1c972d.gif Don't like my sig? Click on it to make a new one!
Happy Feller Posted July 26, 2006 Posted July 26, 2006 Phreak is speaking the truth, I have seen it for myself, Jim Dean is withholding public opinion, and swaying public consenus on alot of topics. Your a real piece of shit Mr. Dean, I understand going after Phreak, he can get pretty obnoxious sometimes. But to withhold public opinions from people who come to share them is wrong. Expecially when the opinions are coming from a community. And another thing, what's the big fucking idea deleteing posts that some of us have spent years contributing. COCKSUCKER !! YOU ARE SCUM !!! WE ALL ALSO HAPPEN TO KNOW HE STOLE A STORY FROM PHREAK AND PUT IT IN HIS HOT TOPICS COLUMN LIKE THE PIECE OF SHIT THAT HE IS !! I'm with Phreak, I will no longer post on the Telegram boards. Not with piece of shit BIASED assholes like Jim Dean and that other person they have running the message boards witholding peoples opinions. Go after his fucking google rank Phreak. I know you know how to do it. 1 Quote I am not Phreakwars you fucking idiots.
almanac Posted July 26, 2006 Posted July 26, 2006 Happy Feller: You don't need to point out to us you're not the smartest person, I think we can figure that one out on our own. Quote
Happy Feller Posted July 26, 2006 Posted July 26, 2006 Happy Feller: You don't need to point out to us you're not the smartest person, I think we can figure that one out on our own.Well, I am very sorry almanac@megavison.com I think certain truths need to be exposed. For instance YOU !!! Search results for: 204.58.233.6 OrgName: First National Bank of Omaha OrgID: FNBO Address: 1620 Dodge Street City: Omaha StateProv: NE PostalCode: 68102 Country: US Maybe you should consider not spending your time at the bank playing on the internet, and worrying about others opinions, and worry more about the job you were hired to do. Quote I am not Phreakwars you fucking idiots.
phreakwars Posted July 26, 2006 Author Posted July 26, 2006 Maybe you should consider not spending your time at the bank playing on the internet, and worrying about others opinions, and worry more about the job you were hired to do.Coming from the guy who spends many hours in the GF arcades playing poker on the job, remember, I see you when your invisible too... and uh.. shouldn't you be at work right now yourself ?? Hypocrite. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
Happy Feller Posted July 26, 2006 Posted July 26, 2006 O.K. good point., but I'm on break. 1 Quote I am not Phreakwars you fucking idiots.
phreakwars Posted July 26, 2006 Author Posted July 26, 2006 It is a shame you're gone now, my mindless banter about shoppings cart races and elves won't have the same ramifications without you. BTW, thanks for the Tribute Matt, it brought a tear to my eye:rolleyes: . And when is your ass getting back from that fucking sand trap anyway ?? And I would also like to take this opportunity to tell Mikey to blow me. He was pissed because I mentioned an area in the vicinity of his home that needs to be condemned (remember the UGLIEST YARD POST ??). So him and his mommy went down to the Library and printed out that statement by me... WHAA..WHAA WHAA.. As told to me by not only law enforcement and attorneys... what do you think that will accomplish... more paper to wipe your ass with ??? GO AHEAD AND TRY TO SUE ME !! If you can spend as much effort being concerned about what I say, so much that you can go through all the effort to get copies of it, then perhaps you have enough energy to get your lazy ass up and see to it that nobody DOES get the wrong impression of your house and or yard, and clean the fucking thing. Instead you would rather steal money from your old febile parents and carry a "WHOA IS ME" attitude. PRINT THAT UP AND SHOW IT TO YOUR MOMMY !! And, as a wise officer once put it.. MAKE SURE YOU SPELL MY NAME RIGHT WHEN YOUR GO TO SUE ME. I wanna make sure you don't miss out on anything awarded by the courts, I don't expect your parents would leave you much to live on, so I just wanna do my part. SO FUCKING WHAAA !! . . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
phreakwars Posted July 26, 2006 Author Posted July 26, 2006 But enough about Mikey, lets view some OTHER flaws.. [attach=full]715[/attach] . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
scout Posted July 26, 2006 Posted July 26, 2006 Will be interesting - maybe - to see which way the online paper goes. Matt? tribute to you was pretty good, made me laugh. I'll poke at them in my tiny way whenever I take a break. 1 Quote
phreakwars Posted July 27, 2006 Author Posted July 27, 2006 BTW, HUGE CLAP FOR MATT EVERYBODY He's a funny bastard in his own way, originally from Columbus, and he is serving our country... Some photo links from Matt's ISP location: iraq.centcom.mil CLICK HERE It would be cool if you had some of your own you could share, Matt. IMG code is enabled in this Forum. No Wha' I sayi'n G. . . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
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