snafu Posted December 22, 2005 Posted December 22, 2005 What’s wrong with putting up a fence on the Mexican boarder? Or the Canadian boarder for that matter? The Mexican President considers it a slap in the face? Fuck him. I think it’s a slap in the face that they think they can come into our country without following our laws. The liberals excuse is that they contribute to our economy with cheap labor that is needed. If they want to come here they need to change the immigration laws and allow more to come in per year. A law is a law. Our security also must come first. THE WALL NEEDS TO BE UP NOW! Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
eisanbt Posted December 22, 2005 Posted December 22, 2005 If they want to come here they need to change the immigration laws and allow more to come in per year. A law is a law. Our security also must come first. Agreed. If the idiots want slave labour then start up another civilwar, if they don't but want to let them in the make it legal. A leech on the system can be turned into a productive, and accountable, member of society. I'm not saying that they all are Mexico's scum corssing over, but as the system stands, you need to control wither you're letting in a carpenter or a gun runner. As for the Canadian boarder, who gives a shit? If you wanna spend the money then fine. If you're worried about "The terrorist threats" coming from Canada, then a fence sure as hell isn't going to stop them 9Because theres so many you know), Hell an tank can stop them. Just less american University students coming up here to get their pot. Quote http://www.boohbah.com/zone.html "It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards" -Lewis Carroll
Jhony5 Posted December 22, 2005 Posted December 22, 2005 There is no way I will buy that shit their selling about illegal immagrants being vital to our countries economy because of the cheap labor they provide. That portion of economical benifit is offset grossly by the welfare/W.I.C. dollars sucked from the system in addition to an obvious rise in the crime rate and the money that gets burned convicting and deporting them only to cycle them trough again and again. As for the Mexican President. HA. HA and HA. Of course thats his disposition on the matter, but read between the lines people. Millions of American dollars are sent out of our country by the often temporary illegal residents. Thats why often they live in clusters and work their ass off. They keep about 25% of their income, and send the rest of the money back home. Hows that helping the U S of A?Its good for the Mexican economy to have those 4 foot tall fucktards swimming the channel and hopping the fence on over to America. Fuck the open door policy. Now its all about using the backdoor ain't it Snafu. WALL IT OFF!!! Quote i am sofa king we todd did.
hopeUslide Posted December 22, 2005 Posted December 22, 2005 My fix would be for Mexico to pay on a per person basis. We catch an illegal the Mex government is charged so much a mile for their return to the border. If they refuse to pay 1 mex visa is rebuked and that person is deported to mexico. Make it tougher on the ruling class and you will see change. We should not build the wall, they should, they need the work! Quote
phreakwars Posted December 22, 2005 Posted December 22, 2005 My solution is simpler. Give immigrants jobs, but charge them a higher tax for not being an American citizen.. As for migrant workers... replace them in the summer months with teenagers as young as 13, and people on welfare..and pay them exactly what the illegals get. So there you have it people, a reduced tax burden, solution for illegal immigrants, a cure for obesity in our youth, a program that reduces crime, and a stimulation of our economy all in one simple solution. PUT UP THE WALL !!! . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
builder Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 I wouldn't be worried about Canada The neocons are going to annexe the place as part of the US. As for illegal immigration, a fence or wall is neanderthal thinking. You have to man that wall, night and day. While a boat or plane does not recognise walls as obstacles. Oh, and aren't there any tunnelers in Mexico? Quote Persevere, it pisses people off.
hugo Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 I wouldn't be worried about Canada The neocons are going to annexe the place as part of the US. As for illegal immigration, a fence or wall is neanderthal thinking. You have to man that wall, night and day. While a boat or plane does not recognise walls as obstacles. Oh, and aren't there any tunnelers in Mexico? We got enough socialists in the US already without annexing Canada with its moronic citizens. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
builder Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 It will happen without your say-so. Quote Persevere, it pisses people off.
hugo Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 It will happen without your say-so. They would have to be simply a territory, otherwise the Democrats would have a stranglehold on government. The neo-cons don't want that. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
RoyalOrleans Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 What’s wrong with putting up a fence on the Mexican boarder? Or the Canadian boarder for that matter? The Mexican President considers it a slap in the face? Fuck him. I think it’s a slap in the face that they think they can come into our country without following our laws. The liberals excuse is that they contribute to our economy with cheap labor that is needed. If they want to come here they need to change the immigration laws and allow more to come in per year. A law is a law. Our security also must come first. THE WALL NEEDS TO BE UP NOW! Other than the fact that you're an american, how would these issues effect a person living in Alaska? I mean, how many Mexicans live in Alaska? Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
hopeUslide Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Believe me when I say they are here! Quote
builder Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 They would have to be simply a territory, otherwise the Democrats would have a stranglehold on government. The neo-cons don't want that. Maybe they don't. But they do want control of another nation's military capabilities. They know how badly enforced conscription affects popularity. Quote Persevere, it pisses people off.
tiredofwhiners Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 The problem i have is they shouldn't come here if they don't speak, and read the language. When they crawl threw the fence they get a test, if they don't pass then they get catapulted back over. I get so tired of going to buy something and having to keep turning the box around to find English. Then also they can only stay if they and any of age family are working, otherwise back you go. Then also any manufacturing that moves operations over there, has to take that many workers from here with them. Quote AA's for quitters...i'm no quitter!
RoyalOrleans Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 The problem i have is they shouldn't come here if they don't speak, and read the language. When they crawl threw the fence they get a test, if they don't pass then they get catapulted back over. I get so tired of going to buy something and having to keep turning the box around to find English. Then also they can only stay if they and any of age family are working, otherwise back you go. Then also any manufacturing that moves operations over there, has to take that many workers from here with them. In all seriousness and taking every aspect into scope; the problem with immigration is not going to get any better, any time soon. That is, unless, a drastic measure is taken to end immigration momentarily and gradually lift the ban. A fence, a wall, a convoy of tanks... nothing will break the determination of anyone desperate enough to enter. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
hugo Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 Maybe they don't. But they do want control of another nation's military capabilities. They know how badly enforced conscription affects popularity. Canada has a military capability? Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
RoyalOrleans Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 Canada has a military capability? Oh! You didn't know? It's called the United States Armed Forces. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
hugo Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 Oh! You didn't know? It's called the United States Armed Forces. Thanks for the info. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
RoyalOrleans Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 Thanks for the info. Well, if you are going to get all smart-allacky, I won't share anymore shit with you. Asshole. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
hugo Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 Well, if you are going to get all smart-allacky, I won't share anymore shit with you. Asshole. A Merry Christmas to you too. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
RoyalOrleans Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 A Merry Christmas to you too. I'll have a Merry Christmas after you pick the peanuts out of my shit, pilgrim. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
ImWithStupid Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 As for illegal immigration, a fence or wall is neanderthal thinking. You have to man that wall, night and day. While a boat or plane does not recognise walls as obstacles. Oh, and aren't there any tunnelers in Mexico? A wall is an obsticle that would slow illegal entry, and obviously not an all around solution. Nothing like getting lectured on how to control a border from someone living in a country without any. Quote
RoyalOrleans Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 A wall is an obsticle that would slow illegal entry, and obviously not an all around solution. Nothing like getting lectured on how to control a border from someone living in a country without any. Ahhh... Australia has to protect the North, the South, the East, and the West of itself from coming terrorism, immigrants, and other ne'erdowells. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
ImWithStupid Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 Ahhh... Australia has to protect the North, the South, the East, and the West of itself from coming terrorism, immigrants, and other ne'erdowells. I almost forgot about those terrorist cells composed of sharks and killer jellyfish. Quote
snafu Posted December 25, 2005 Author Posted December 25, 2005 Other than the fact that you're an american, how would these issues effect a person living in Alaska? I mean, how many Mexicans live in Alaska? You don’t think that my safety is any less because I live in Alaska? Once a terrorist comes in he can strike any were. This doesn't just stop Immigrants. It stops terrorists. It also stops drugs and maybe even the first dirty bomb to go off on us. We have missiles up here. Alaska can be a target too. As to the cheap labor, that will also affect me. I’ll probably have to pay more for my veggies without all that cheap labor. But I’ll get it back with less government spending on these assholes! And yes I am an American. I care! Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
snafu Posted December 25, 2005 Author Posted December 25, 2005 Originally Posted by builder As for illegal immigration, a fence or wall is neanderthal thinking. You have to man that wall, night and day. While a boat or plane does not recognise walls as obstacles. Oh, and aren't there any tunnelers in Mexico? Once again NO builder! That’s the purpose of the wall. It takes less people to man it. There are three separate walls. We will have cameras on the wall. When the first wall is breached we will have plenty of time to get to the perpetrators. Some will probably figure out a way to penetrate it but it would still accomplish the incentive by drastically cutting down the flow. I don't think we have to worry about any boats but planes and boats should have no problem identifying a fucking wall! A tunnel? They've done that. And we find them. They just close one down not to long ago. So what. Give'm something to do for awhile:rolleyes: Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
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