italiano_Pride Posted January 1, 2006 Posted January 1, 2006 Service in the Armed Forces A list of who's served our country Democrats: Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71. David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72. Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72. Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade. Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam. Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII. John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, Purple Hearts. Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea. Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam. Paraplegic from war injuries, served in Congress. Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53. Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74. Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91. Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons. Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars, and Soldier's Medal. Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and Legion of Merit. Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart. Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V. Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star. Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57 Chuck Robb: Vietnam Howell Heflin: Silver Star George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII. Bill Clinton: Did not serve, student deferments. Entered draft but received #311. Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy. Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953 John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and AirMedal with 18 Clusters. Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg. Republicans -- the guys sending people to Afghanistan and Iraq: Dick Cheney: did not serve, several deferments, the last by marriage. Dennis Hastert: did not serve. Tom Delay: did not serve. Roy Blunt: did not serve. Bill Frist: did not serve. Mitch McConnell: did not serve. Rick Santorum: did not serve. Trent Lott: did not serve. John Ashcroft: did not serve, seven deferments to teach business. Jeb Bush: did not serve. Karl Rove: did not serve. Saxby Chambliss: did not serve, "Bad knee." (The man who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism.) Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve. Vin Weber: did not serve. Richard Perle: did not serve. Douglas Feith: did not serve. Eliot Abrams: did not serve. Richard Shelby: did not serve. Jon! Kyl: did not serve. Tim Hutchison: did not serve. Christopher Cox: did not serve. Newt Gingrich: did not serve. Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor. George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; failed to show up for required... B-1 Bob Dornan: enlisted after fighting was over in Korea. Phil Gramm: did not serve. John McCain: Vietnam POW, Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve. John M. McHugh: did not serve. JC Watts: did not serve. Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem," although continued in NFL for 8 years as quarterback. Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard. Rudy Giuliani: did not serve. George Pataki: did not serve. Spencer Abraham: did not serve. John Engler: did not serve. Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer. Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base. Pundits & Preachers Sean Hannity: did not serve. Rush Limbaugh: did not serve Bill O'Reilly: did not serve. Michael Savage: did not serve. George Will: did not serve. Chris Matthews: did not serve. Paul Gigot: did not serve. Bill Bennett: did not serve. Pat Buchanan: did not serve. John Wayne: did not serve. Bill Kristol: did not serve. Kenneth Starr: did not serve. Antonin Scalia: did not serve. Clarence Thomas: did not serve. Ralph Reed: did not serve. Michael Medved: did not serve. Anyone seeing the pattern here? The people who are sending us to die have never served or dodged the draft. Political hypocrisy pisses me off. Quote
builder Posted January 1, 2006 Posted January 1, 2006 A verified link would be handy right about now. Quote Persevere, it pisses people off.
hugo Posted January 1, 2006 Posted January 1, 2006 Service in the Armed Forces A list of who's served our country Democrats: Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71. David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72. Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72. Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade. Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam. Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII. John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, Purple Hearts. Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea. Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam. Paraplegic from war injuries, served in Congress. Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53. Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74. Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91. Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons. Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars, and Soldier's Medal. Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and Legion of Merit. Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart. Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V. Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star. Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57 Chuck Robb: Vietnam Howell Heflin: Silver Star George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII. Bill Clinton: Did not serve, student deferments. Entered draft but received #311. Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy. Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953 John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and AirMedal with 18 Clusters. Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg. Republicans -- the guys sending people to Afghanistan and Iraq: Dick Cheney: did not serve, several deferments, the last by marriage. Dennis Hastert: did not serve. Tom Delay: did not serve. Roy Blunt: did not serve. Bill Frist: did not serve. Mitch McConnell: did not serve. Rick Santorum: did not serve. Trent Lott: did not serve. John Ashcroft: did not serve, seven deferments to teach business. Jeb Bush: did not serve. Karl Rove: did not serve. Saxby Chambliss: did not serve, "Bad knee." (The man who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism.) Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve. Vin Weber: did not serve. Richard Perle: did not serve. Douglas Feith: did not serve. Eliot Abrams: did not serve. Richard Shelby: did not serve. Jon! Kyl: did not serve. Tim Hutchison: did not serve. Christopher Cox: did not serve. Newt Gingrich: did not serve. Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor. George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; failed to show up for required... B-1 Bob Dornan: enlisted after fighting was over in Korea. Phil Gramm: did not serve. John McCain: Vietnam POW, Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve. John M. McHugh: did not serve. JC Watts: did not serve. Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem," although continued in NFL for 8 years as quarterback. Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard. Rudy Giuliani: did not serve. George Pataki: did not serve. Spencer Abraham: did not serve. John Engler: did not serve. Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer. Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base. Pundits & Preachers Sean Hannity: did not serve. Rush Limbaugh: did not serve Bill O'Reilly: did not serve. Michael Savage: did not serve. George Will: did not serve. Chris Matthews: did not serve. Paul Gigot: did not serve. Bill Bennett: did not serve. Pat Buchanan: did not serve. John Wayne: did not serve. Bill Kristol: did not serve. Kenneth Starr: did not serve. Antonin Scalia: did not serve. Clarence Thomas: did not serve. Ralph Reed: did not serve. Michael Medved: did not serve. Anyone seeing the pattern here? The people who are sending us to die have never served or dodged the draft. Political hypocrisy pisses me off. Since Pat Buchanan is strongly against American intervention across the globe I don't see why he is included in this list. Of course the American people elect their commander in chief. Being in the service is not a requirement for the position. GW Bush also received an honorable discharge. The list is a bit biased. I'm sure Gore had it tough as a journalist. From Pat Buchanan's "A Republic, Not an Empire" speech. Quo Vadis? Where are you going, America? Because of our sanctions on scores of nations, cruise missile strikes upon others, and intervention in the internal affairs of still others in the wake of the Cold War, a seething resentment of America is brewing all over the world. And the haughty attitude of our foreign policy elite only nurses the hatred. Hearken, if you will, to the voice of our own Xenia, Madeline Albright, announcing new air strikes on Iraq: "If we have to use force, it is because we are America. We are the indispensable nation. We stand tall. We see farther into the future." Now I count myself an American patriot. But if this Beltway braggadocio about being the world's "indispensable nation" has begun to grate on me, how must it grate upon the Europeans, Russians, and peoples subject to our sanctions because they have failed, by our lights, to live up to our standards? And how can all our meddling not fail to spark some horrible retribution? Recall: it was in retaliation for the bombing of Libya that Khadafi's agents blew up Pan Am 103. And it is said to have been in retaliation for the Vincennes' accidental shoot-down of that Iranian airliner that Teheran collaborated with terrorists to blow up the Khobar towers. From Pan Am 103, to the World Trade Center, to the embassy bombings in Nairobi and Dar - have we not suffered enough not to know that interventionism is the incubator of terrorism? Or will it take some cataclysmic atrocity on U.S. soil to awaken our global gamesmen to the asking price of empire? This was written when Clinton was President. I see neither him Hitlery or Madeline Aldumb made the list of Democrats who served. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
fullauto Posted January 1, 2006 Posted January 1, 2006 As a fellow Italian, you have NO place talking about war time heroics... There are few nations in the world that become more useless than the Italians when you put a uniform on them... 1 Quote Liberals... Saving the world one semester at a time "I'm not a racist... I'm a realist! And if you don't know the difference, You're an Idiot!" -- Fullauto Present - 1. (Noun) The point that divides disappointment from hope
RoyalOrleans Posted January 1, 2006 Posted January 1, 2006 As a fellow Italian, you have NO place talking about war time heroics... There are few nations in the world that become more useless than the Italians when you put a uniform on them... Somebody has to serve in the Mess Hall. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
Lethalfind Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 I would be interested in seeing a list of the current men in politics who have family members enlisted...I'm guessing not many of our Congress have children and other relatives they are sending into harms way. Its easy to put a bulls eye on someone elses child. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
RoyalOrleans Posted January 8, 2006 Posted January 8, 2006 I was in the USMC at the time my Uncle Clancy sat as Chairman of the 9th District Board of Education. During this time, the "Support Our Troops" bumper stickers hit their peak. The only time my uncle has ever acknowledged me was during this time when he had a picture of him and me together plastered all over billboards and such. Crappy photo, too. It was from my first and only Christmas visit home... drunk as hell! Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Bill Clinton: Did not serve, student deferments. Entered draft but received #311. George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; failed to show up for required... Anybody see a pattern here? What horse-shit... I see Bob Dole was conveniently left out (lost the use of his arm in Clark's campaign up the Italian penensula WWII) Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
phreakwars Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 I see a totally different pattern then that. I see a select group of people chosen by a biased asshole..I'm pretty sure IP copied that. More like a search and destroy with facts mission.. You need to realize that the list is comprised of people that are/were in a position of authority at different times and years... some current, some past... another thing, IMO, I don't feel that ones "call of duty" can be used to judge their ability to perform a duty for the public that is in the public's best interest. I mean, sure, Clinton was a draft dodger... Sure Bush was a spoiled army boy with no REAL training in anything to speak of... But they both had their idealism that sold to the general public, just as all the rest have, and somehow got elected... Even though I am a Liberal, Democrat, I'll stick up for the Republican side here, that the list is trying to trash.. Only because I know both party sides have their good and bad points and credibility's The only person that this DOESN'T apply to. Is Bill O'Rielly... He sucked dick to get where he is. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
fullauto Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Not everyone is cut out to be Millitary... and further more, not everyone contributes to society in the same way... I contribute, by buying property off slumlords and fixing them up for people who otherwise would have to live like animals because their old landlord just wanted to extort poor people... Builder is an contractor, and provides for his familly by building things for others for a fee... They can't do it themsleves, so they pay him... It's legal, moral, and helps shift money around... (a good economy is not alot of money, it's alot of money shifting hand frequently)... That's his contribution.. Bob runs this site... and a few others I'm sure... that's how he contributes... Don't get hung up on HOW people contribute, just be mindful of whether or not they DO contribute... EG... McCain... severice to his country, now he's a senator trying to make a difference with injections of truth and cunning in an otherwise useless body of govmt... Random Migrant Worker... They come up here and do the labor that we don't want to do for cheap... THEY WORK... without them a fucking fruit salad would cost $40! That's a contribution... Just watch those who continually suck the system dry... Not everyone can be anything... I couldn't be a cop... I would have to return to the station 4 times a day for ammo! But I contribute in other ways! Quote Liberals... Saving the world one semester at a time "I'm not a racist... I'm a realist! And if you don't know the difference, You're an Idiot!" -- Fullauto Present - 1. (Noun) The point that divides disappointment from hope
Vander Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 This is an obviously biased list, but at the same time it brings up another point. Education vs. Experience. Many of those who did not serve in the armed forces chose to get a college education instead. Many are entrepreneurs, businessmen, and lawyers. Many know the law inside out, and others make a living running corporations and businesses. Does that make them less fit to lead or more fit to lead? Less fit to run a country and make laws or more fit to do so? Quote
fullauto Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 This is an obviously biased list, but at the same time it brings up another point. Education vs. Experience. Many of those who did not serve in the armed forces chose to get a college education instead. Many are entrepreneurs, businessmen, and lawyers. Many know the law inside out, and others make a living running corporations and businesses. Does that make them less fit to lead or more fit to lead? Less fit to run a country and make laws or more fit to do so? it does not make them less fit... Some of the greatest leaders in the world were never in the military, or only had limited (reduced) service... Churchill, JFK, FDR, Lincoln.... But what the military does give you, is a sense of responsibility and accountability... Not everyone learns this on their ventures through life... and not everyone learns them at such a young age... It also teaches a VERY valuable lesson in teamwork... These are good qualities in a leader, but don't have to be found in the military... Quote Liberals... Saving the world one semester at a time "I'm not a racist... I'm a realist! And if you don't know the difference, You're an Idiot!" -- Fullauto Present - 1. (Noun) The point that divides disappointment from hope
Vander Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 I am not really trying to knock service in the military. I respect those who serve immensely, but I do think there are two ways of learning. I think having a mix between those who have learned through experience and those who have learned through education makes for a very rich and diverse atmosphere that brings many different views and ideas to the table. This is the idea behind our governmental body is it not? Quote
fullauto Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 absolutely.... can't have too many of anything... Quote Liberals... Saving the world one semester at a time "I'm not a racist... I'm a realist! And if you don't know the difference, You're an Idiot!" -- Fullauto Present - 1. (Noun) The point that divides disappointment from hope
fullauto Posted January 15, 2006 Posted January 15, 2006 damn... I must be the fucking Fifth Horseman... every time I post, the crowd goes 'mild' WTF ?!?!?! Quote Liberals... Saving the world one semester at a time "I'm not a racist... I'm a realist! And if you don't know the difference, You're an Idiot!" -- Fullauto Present - 1. (Noun) The point that divides disappointment from hope
Hamza123 Posted January 15, 2006 Posted January 15, 2006 LOL!! What do you think about joining the army to get your university paid for ?? Although my parents can afford it... I have to pitch in too. And the Canadian army never goes to war.. Currently peacekeeping in Afghanistan... If conservatives ever get elected than I am screwed. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
fullauto Posted January 16, 2006 Posted January 16, 2006 This is just my opinion... But if the only reason you join the Armed Forces is to pay for college, you should lose your benefits if you refuse or protest going to war if it does in fact occur.... I dealt with a lot of these pinko fags when I was in... They are fucking leaches and should be screened right out of the process... They don't take their service seriously, and in that respect, they endanger every soldier that goes to war with them... JOIN TO FIGHT! Not for the sake of fighting Not for the college tuition Fight for Your country Your people Your rights Your safety But most of all.... Fight for the people who fought for you, but are no longer able to defend your sorry, half-socialist ass! This country, and many other western nations, are filled with simps and leaches! We all enjoy the freedoms and prosperity that our elders fought for us to have, but we are unwilling to actually buck up and fight for it ourselves... I swear sometimes this country is a fucking cesspool of entitlement minded children... Quote Liberals... Saving the world one semester at a time "I'm not a racist... I'm a realist! And if you don't know the difference, You're an Idiot!" -- Fullauto Present - 1. (Noun) The point that divides disappointment from hope
Jhony5 Posted January 16, 2006 Posted January 16, 2006 I fully agree with all that you said in the above post, Fullauto. However, undrstand that the military deploys enlistment tactics that are covertly deceptive. Remember that the demographic audiance to which the military is 'advertising' is kids age 16-19. My life was completely without direction back in 1990 when i was 18. My brother was already serving and I thought long and hard about signing up for the reserves after a run in with a recruiter. Luckily I had the benifit of having a father that understood both the military and me personaly and he explainded clearly what I was getting myself into. After much thought I declined the service and was promptly subjected to severe harassment and even threats by the recruiter until my father straightened it out. Even today in a time of war, the military continues to be coy about their television advertiments. One T.V. spot I saw recently depicted a female reserve soldier that was putting a fun and adventurous slant onto her reserve status. "One weekend a month and two weeks a year I am a soldier, then I can put on blue jeans and be a normal civilian" she exclaimed. "Call now and get you free sports watch". FREE SPORTS WATCH??? What the fuck is that all about? No shit. A free god damn sports watch if you let the insidious recruiters get their meathooks into your impressionable young ass. Thats fucked up right there. Theres a friggn war on. You ain't geting off that easy. The youngsters that do not have the benifit of non-bias advice towards military enlistment are getting landed like fish, hook, line, and sinker. No one weekend a month, no two weeks a year, NO BLUE JEANS. Your off to war and no, soldier, you can't wear your free sports watch because its not military issue so fall in line maggot. The best advise that I could give to my own child when she gets older is this. Whenever in life you sign your name on any document, there is a catch, and you better fucking recognize. Quote i am sofa king we todd did.
phreakwars Posted January 16, 2006 Posted January 16, 2006 I don't know if you can accuse the military of using such tactics too much... after all.. how stupid can one person be that they would be "OH LOOK, FREE COLLEGE MONEY FROM THE ARMY", and not realize what they are looking at ?? If anybody is THAT stupid for real, then I question their thinking ability and their worth to having said army funds in the first place.. IT'S THE FUCKING MILITARY... DUH !! But I will say, if anything, maybe it DOES get a little sugar coated, and the FREE EDUCATION does have it's appeals for the ambitious in life.. But then, I'd rather recruit the ambitious and teach them to be a man, then recruit the high school drop out who just doesn't care enough about his own life to be able to care about others. After all, in order to be "GUNG HO" one needs to first be ambitious. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
Jhony5 Posted January 16, 2006 Posted January 16, 2006 True true. The irony within however is to understand what happens during draft time. Those in college are exempt from the draft status. I'd rather recruit the ambitious and teach them to be a man, then recruit the high school drop out who just doesn't care enough about his own life to be able to care about others. After all, in order to be "GUNG HO" one needs to first be ambitious. You might feel this way however our military structure feels differently. ALA Vietnam the first to go are the bottom rung of the social ladder. It would seem to me that the more valuable resourse to the military in such times is not the motivated mind, but the beating heart. Bodies are tools to be implemented in whatever way deemed nessasary to capture the front. Of course the military has its own hierarchy system within. Generals, captains, Lieutenants, and grunts. The more valuable are indeed the higher ups. The more expendable are the "unmotivated scum". The term "gung-ho" suggests choice, and I don't think the drafted have a choice. Once you get caught up in that system the term "gung-ho" translates directly into "survival". You wanna live or die, I guess that the choice ya got. Quote i am sofa king we todd did.
ImWithStupid Posted January 16, 2006 Posted January 16, 2006 I have a friend who's brother was in the Army Reserves. Due to the education that was paid for by the US Government he now is making a mid six figure salary. When Gulf War II started he found out his unit was being called up. I sat and listened to his family talking about how to get him out of it and how it wasn't fair. The brother himself didn't say anything about getting out of it but the sister, mom and grandma did. I really pissed them off when I said that it sucks that he was being called up for active duty but that was part of the deal when he got his education paid for. That was the price for the nice life he had until now. Oh well, I'm not the one with the problem accepting consequences of our life choices. Fuck em'. Quote
italiano_Pride Posted January 16, 2006 Author Posted January 16, 2006 Damn man, i'm sorry to hear about your friends brother. In my personal opinion I don't believe that the army is a good way to pay for your education and such shit as this is a perfect example of why. Quote
ImWithStupid Posted January 16, 2006 Posted January 16, 2006 Damn man, i'm sorry to hear about your friends brother. In my personal opinion I don't believe that the army is a good way to pay for your education and such shit as this is a perfect example of why. Although it's unfortunate that anyone is called up to fight a war, I don't feel "sorry" for him. To me it should have been an accepted possiblity as a result of joining the Army Reserves. I feel like Fullauto said, "Join To Fight". If you are not willing or prepared to do this, don't join the service. It's not a free ride and should be taken seriously. Quote
snafu Posted January 16, 2006 Posted January 16, 2006 Fullauto said it. It really doesn Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
Hamza123 Posted January 16, 2006 Posted January 16, 2006 This is just my opinion... But if the only reason you join the Armed Forces is to pay for college, you should lose your benefits if you refuse or protest going to war if it does in fact occur.... I dealt with a lot of these pinko fags when I was in... They are fucking leaches and should be screened right out of the process... They don't take their service seriously, and in that respect, they endanger every soldier that goes to war with them... JOIN TO FIGHT! Not for the sake of fighting Not for the college tuition Fight for Your country Your people Your rights Your safety But most of all.... Fight for the people who fought for you, but are no longer able to defend your sorry, half-socialist ass! This country, and many other western nations, are filled with simps and leaches! We all enjoy the freedoms and prosperity that our elders fought for us to have, but we are unwilling to actually buck up and fight for it ourselves... I swear sometimes this country is a fucking cesspool of entitlement minded children... Yes but in Canada, a lot of people join for the Secondary Eduation benefits... It would be awesome to defend Canada in a war! Not for the explosions and shit.. thats just a bonus. But defend what the country has given me, and what I have... I am pretty fit, I exercise regularly (Once a day for seventy-five minutes) (Grade 11 PE course is only pumping iron)... Wouldn't be so hard for me I guess, but me and a friend are thinking about joining together. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
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