Newborn Babies are Perfect, and they are Atheists

[Guest Faint Peter]

In a moment of revelation, Pastor Frank finally awoke. This is what he

said:

> The only true atheist is a newborn, being still free from all opinions.

 

Pastor Frank has finally admitted that all this stuff about God is 'an

opinion'. Goodness, I almost said "The Lord be praised!".

 

But seriously, surely this is right. Unless you are one of those sick

people who believe humans are 'born to sin' - i.e. designed by their

creator not to work properly - or accept the Hindu principle of karma -

that you will 'pay' for your previous sins - a newborn baby IS perfect.

And by Pastor Frank's analysis - perfection is not to be found in one

of those divisive beliefs, those sources of argument, hatered, wars.

 

A cautionary word about newborn babies - just be careful they don't pee

on you. They still gotta sort some things out.

[phreakwars]

Yeah, that's cool.

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[builder]

Cool? Not only will a baby pee on you, if you react, they will laugh at you.

 

My take on kids is that race is never an issue. Curiosity does not extend to skin colour. Kids look you in the eye. They see more than adults see. That is all.

[scout]

Cool? Not only will a baby pee on you, if you react, they will laugh at you.

 

My take on kids is that race is never an issue. Curiosity does not extend to skin colour. Kids look you in the eye. They see more than adults see. That is all.

I like the way you think.

[ImWithStupid]

Cool? Not only will a baby pee on you, if you react, they will laugh at you.

 

My take on kids is that race is never an issue. Curiosity does not extend to skin colour. Kids look you in the eye. They see more than adults see. That is all.

 

Until they are corrupted, kids don't see the differences, they see the similarities.

[builder]

Until they are corrupted, kids don't see the differences, they see the similarities.

 

It was like thirty years ago now, but I was at a religious youth camp, and on the final day, one kid who was the only one there able to outrun me on the infamous water-fight we had, was standing alone, while all the other kids spent their coin at the tuck-shop buying sweets and stuff.

 

I wandered over to him. Cecil was his name, and shared my sweets with him.

 

Our group leader actually gave me an award for this. I never knew why. Cecil was an aboriginal. My admiration for Cecil was based on his speed, his rat-cunning (for which I too was well-known) and his friendly nature. Nothing more.

 

[scout]

As it should be.

[RoyalOrleans]

When I was an alien, cultures were just opinions.

[eisanbt]

I think the idea that there can be a perfect human being is rooted in the idea that there is a perfection to be achieved (or born into) which is to say that good and evil, wanted and unwanted trates have been defined. Are we to then assume that there is a universal morality? This i believe is not something one should accept without close examination.

 

 

Is Tabula Rasa really our idea of perfection, in which case would not a mechine be perfect? Do you think it wise to convert all people into rational and effecient cyborgs without those essential human characteristics such as emotion and irrational action to clog our judgement? I sure as hell think most everybody needs to be more rational and understanding but that is not to abandon the very flaws that make us something different then inanimate. Why then would we praise a baby who is without preconception? (And for reference, they do come out with certain 'ideas' and preferences that have been shaped through-out their developpment in mama's belly)

 

We must also consider the idea of perfection in correrlation with our unique sets of social moralites; Compassion, Understanding, Caring, Ambition and whatever other human trates we might find desirable, this is what would form the perfect human being would it not? But since we cannot agree on a critera (let alone a method of producing such a wonderful person) we cannot universally define perfection. I believe this is why we'd consider an empty mind to be perfect, because we cannot agree on the traits of perfection. But we encounter the same problem here with those who don't consider a blank slate to be perfect in their way. This is again more argument against the idea of a universal morality and the possibility of a human being to achieve any definition of perfection beyond that of those people who they share values with.

[scout]

Perfection would be sooo incredibly boring. It is a non attainable goal. I was married to a perfectionist, his inability to beat perfection into me made him less perfect and that really pissed him off!

[eisanbt]

How could you say somebody is perfect if you think they're boring, Wouldn't a perfect person be interesting? I'm not talking about the whole 'heaven is perfect, and therefore boring" question, I'm saying that perfection would have to be defined by the indivduel. In this case, not boring would be included in that definition.

 

Perfection is not the 50s ideal set out by somebody else, that IS boring, and therefore, as we'd agree on, imperfect.

[scout]

How could you say somebody is perfect if you think they're boring, Wouldn't a perfect person be interesting? I'm not talking about the whole 'heaven is perfect, and therefore boring" question, I'm saying that perfection would have to be defined by the indivduel. In this case, not boring would be included in that definition.

 

Perfection is not the 50s ideal set out by somebody else, that IS boring, and therefore, as we'd agree on, imperfect.

..Perfect.