Lethalfind Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 I try to make Valentines Day about my child. We decorate for every holiday including Valentines day. She sends Valentines to all her friends at school, I bring Little Debbies to school that are in the Valentine theme. Yea it was a holiday created to seperate people from their money, much like the rest of the holidays. I grew up in a pretty religious household and we didn't celebrate most of the holidays. I missed alot of fun as a child. I wanted to make sure Diane had that fun that I missed. When she was younger it helped her learn the calendar by looking for whatever upcoming holiday there was. The last Valentines Day my Father was alive he gave me the most beautiful rose bush. We both loved growing roses and he saw my flower beds didn't have a deep red rose. When I moved, I hated to leave it behind but I had to. There can be alot more to something like Valentines day then you all have mentioned here. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
tiredofwhiners Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 ToriAllen]Valentine's Day is my anniversary and my middle son's B-day. So for me, it is B-day parties for the next 14 years, and anniversaries for the rest of my life. Yep i did the ole Valentines day wedding. And then i got divorced and the second wife reminds me every year, how i screwed up that holiday forever. Quote AA's for quitters...i'm no quitter!
ToriAllen Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Yep i did the ole Valentines day wedding. And then i got divorced and the second wife reminds me every year, how i screwed up that holiday forever. I think he was afraid he might forget our anniversary otherwise. That or to cut down on gifts. Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
Jhony5 Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Originally posted by: Lethalfind There can be alot more to something like Valentines day then you all have mentioned here Ya know, if we keep giving in to the American corporate machine we will someday be exchanging gifts on ST. Patrick's day. I don't mean to be a big 'ol stick in the mud, but many holidays are losing their meaning to this knee-jerk reaction to purchase. I saw a survey on the news last year that highlighted how Easter has become a second Christmas. Parents are buying their children bikes and toys, actually gift wrapping them. Soon this thinking spreads like the flu, and it will become common place. I haven't seen it yet, but I bet in the near future corporations will start to sell Easter gift wrap. Maybe I'm a curmudgeon, but my daughter gets a plentiful basket and thats it. As the decades roll on, we are becoming more and more unattached from the meaning of holidays. Easter, for example, is a Christian holiday to celebrate the day Jesus liberated France, if I remember correctly. I'm soooo not a Christian, but here I am observing it. Quote i am sofa king we todd did.
ToriAllen Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Easter, for example, is a Christian holiday to celebrate the day Jesus liberated France, if I remember correctly. I'm soooo not a Christian, but here I am observing it. What? Easter? To celebrate the day Jesus rose from the dead? Where does France fit in there. The date on which to celebrate the resurrection was chosen in 325 AD by Constantine at the Council of Nicaea. The formula he came up with for finding when Easter Sunday will fall goes like this: Find the first day of Spring, March 20, then find the next full moon, and Easter will fall on the following Sunday. I like the holidays. Valentine's day included. If you don't like the commercialization, then don't 'buy' into it. Personally I see nothing wrong with it. No one is putting a gun to your head telling you to buy chocolate, jewelry or anything else. Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
Jhony5 Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 What? Easter? To celebrate the day Jesus rose from the dead? Where does France fit in there. The date on which to celebrate the resurrection was chosen in 325 AD by Constantine at the Council of Nicaea. LOL, it was a joke. Damn, do y'all always take everything so serious. Jesus liberating France, LOL!!! I like the holidays. Valentine's day included. If you don't like the commercialization, then don't 'buy' into it. Personally I see nothing wrong with it. No one is putting a gun to your head telling you to buy chocolate, jewelry or anything else. ....and I don't. I wasn't trying to spur a revolt against the commercialization of holidays. I was just giving my 2 cents on how the trained rats that are Americans, do what their told by the all mighty dollar. Its kinda funny actually. Quote i am sofa king we todd did.
ImWithStupid Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Ya know, if we keep giving in to the American corporate machine we will someday be exchanging gifts on ST. Patrick's day. I already do. I exchange green beer for yellow and eventually clear pee as the night goes on. Quote
Lethalfind Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 What? Easter? To celebrate the day Jesus rose from the dead? Where does France fit in there. The date on which to celebrate the resurrection was chosen in 325 AD by Constantine at the Council of Nicaea. The formula he came up with for finding when Easter Sunday will fall goes like this: Find the first day of Spring, March 20, then find the next full moon, and Easter will fall on the following Sunday. I like the holidays. Valentine's day included. If you don't like the commercialization, then don't 'buy' into it. Personally I see nothing wrong with it. No one is putting a gun to your head telling you to buy chocolate, jewelry or anything else. Firstly Easter is about as far in reality from a Christian holiday as you can get. Easter eggs, rabbits and bunnies are all fertility symbols. I believe it was Pope Gregory who thought he could bring more converts to the Catholic church if he imalgamated Pagan rituals and Christian ones. Christmas is another example of this. I make sure my daughter knows the history of the holidays, we talk about all of it, the Christian contribution and the Pagan parts as well. Although I have left out the fertility symbols of menstraul blood represented by the holly berries and semen represented by mistletoe. The holiday I spend alot of money on her is on Christmas. When she was small we bought Easter eggs and hid them for her and she went on an Easter egg hunt. She feels a little old for that now. For Halloween I also buy her a nice costume. One year for Easter we went to Disney World, she was dressed in the normal pretty dress for Easter. We got too see the Easter Bunny as well as all the normal Disney characters. The pictures of that day are so pretty. When we buy things to decorate with, we buy them right after the holiday at least 50% off and use them the next year. I agree with Tori. If you don't like the way people celebrate, then don't do it. If you have children however its an amazing opportunity for some special activities. Not just for fun but to learn a little history if they are the right age and you are so inclined. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
ToriAllen Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Firstly Easter is about as far in reality from a Christian holiday as you can get. Easter eggs, rabbits and bunnies are all fertility symbols. I believe it was Pope Gregory who thought he could bring more converts to the Catholic church if he imalgamated Pagan rituals and Christian ones. Christmas is another example of this. I make sure my daughter knows the history of the holidays, we talk about all of it, the Christian contribution and the Pagan parts as well. Although I have left out the fertility symbols of menstraul blood represented by the holly berries and semen represented by mistletoe. Easter is actually the Spring Festival that somehow got integrated with Resurrection Sunday to become one holiday. I suppose it was easier to celebrate all facets of life at once. This does not give it any less meaning. It is still just as much a Christian holiday today as it was in 325 AD. The resurrection story is still told and communion is still given. Christians celebrate the Christian part of the holiday as much now as they ever did. I would guess more people probably know about the resurrection connection than the fertility connection. I find it interesting that anyone would think that the idea of birth and fertility are somehow against the Christian religion. Christianity celebrates birth and fertility as much as anyone else, so why is it so difficult to imagine Christians taking part is spring activities which symbolize the gift of life? I agree with telling my children where the traditions of each of the holidays come from (at age appropriate times of-course). I think it is important to understand tradition, and I think understanding forms a deeper respect for the traditions that we participate in. Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
Lethalfind Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Easter is actually the Spring Festival that somehow got integrated with Resurrection Sunday to become one holiday. I suppose it was easier to celebrate all facets of life at once. This does not give it any less meaning. It is still just as much a Christian holiday today as it was in 325 AD. The resurrection story is still told and communion is still given. Christians celebrate the Christian part of the holiday as much now as they ever did. I would guess more people probably know about the resurrection connection than the fertility connection. I find it interesting that anyone would think that the idea of birth and fertility are somehow against the Christian religion. Christianity celebrates birth and fertility as much as anyone else, so why is it so difficult to imagine Christians taking part is spring activities which symbolize the gift of life? I agree with telling my children where the traditions of each of the holidays come from (at age appropriate times of-course). I think it is important to understand tradition, and I think understanding forms a deeper respect for the traditions that we participate in. I didn't mean they were against it, I meant they were part of the Pagans that worshipped fertility rights. I don't thinks there is anything wrong with putting holidays together, lets just be clear though, there were no Easter rabbits at the foot of the cross...I have always felt that Pope Gregory was rather a practical person for putting these holidays together. Much more so then people of today can be, who exclude that they don't understand. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
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angie Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 I honestly don't understand the animosity towards Valentine's Day. Let's face it, in the rush of everyday life, there are times where we can take our signifigant other for granted. Eventually, many lose the romance they once had in the beginning of the relationship. Not to say you should go take out a second mortgage to buy your loved one a slew of gifts, but it should be a day to just remind us to show our S.O. that we do still love them, and show a little appreciation. I think it's a nice concept, just a bit overdone nowadays. Quote http://www.darwinawards.com/ http://www.snopes.com http://www.breakthechain.org STOP THE SPAM!! Click Me You Know You Want To
Outlaw2747 Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 FUCK. VALENTINE'S. DAY. "But Dante, WHY do you hate Valentine's Day? Is it because you have no girl? Is it because you have no money? Is it because you are not getting any?" No, no, and fucking no! Why do I hate this day. It took me years to understand what is going on as did many other things. I watch these morons, hell I was a "believer" at one time until I woke up. I am spending my money on some shitty card that some heartless wench is just going to look at for a few seconds and then toss in the trash. I am buying a teddy bear for some sorry excuse of a vagina just so she can put the damn thing on her dresser so she can be more "girly" by having a ton of stuffed animals in her house. I am buying candy for some slob that is too broke to buy her own so she knows that some fuck face no hoper can buy her some so she can parasite off of them. And I am buying flowers for some fire breathing dick smoker just so she can throw the fuckers in the trash because they are going to die anyways. Not only that, this is just a way for the florists and any other scumbag to bring in the cash. Then again, how could I be mad at them? They are doing their job. If idiots want to be stupid enough to blow their hard earned cash on some simple and ungrateful pile of bat shit that doesn't give a fuck about them then so be it. Might as well exploit morons. Their loss. Valentine's Day isn't bliss. It is simple bear piss. You don't need some glorified 24 hour period to say you love someone. There is nothing glorious about it. I simply laugh and mock the brainless jackasses who THINK they are in love and parade their slut/asshole of a mate carrying some Valentine's Day propaganda. Kiss my ass. I hope the founder of the holiday died a horrific, bloody, painful, gory death for being a fucked up, goose raping, scheming son of a bitch. Hope you enjoyed this rant. I sure did. 1 Quote "I wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana." - Wall of Voodoo http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/fb910e0baa5b4e108ffee98f66cdb3cc.gif
manicmonday Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Didn't get laid even after you bought the chocolate huh? Bummer. Well, there's always next year. Quote The dick has no conscience and the heart has no rational abilities.
Outlaw2747 Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Never bought chocolate for anyone. The whole I buy... rant section is just an example. Oh and there isn't a next year. I don't celebrate Valentine's. I was lucky with my first girlfriend, she hated it too. Quote "I wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana." - Wall of Voodoo http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/fb910e0baa5b4e108ffee98f66cdb3cc.gif
manicmonday Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Never bought chocolate for anyone. The whole I buy... rant section is just an example. Oh and there isn't a next year. I don't celebrate Valentine's. I was lucky with my first girlfriend, she hated it too. It was rhetoric. I think Valentine's day should be celebrated every day, not just one day out of the year. Still it's nice to have one day where you will be appreciated more than others. Quote The dick has no conscience and the heart has no rational abilities.
jokersarewild Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 http://www.historychannel.com/exhibits/valentine/?page=history The Holiday wasn't even really started by the ST. it is named after. St. Valentine didn't tell the media and the greating card companies to overemphasize what he did. That would be those morons Outlaw was talking about. Which reminds me, where have you been? Haven't seen you in a while? Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad!
Outlaw2747 Posted February 17, 2006 Posted February 17, 2006 Been quite busy my friend. Finally came home, got my car, right now I am just putting my pieces on the chess board and trying to see what's up. Sadly I came home to drama ONCE AGAIN as I got dragged into everyone's damn love problems. I come home only to become the Dr. Phil of the family. The sad part is I am not even in a relationship and I am giving these goofballs advice. And out of all the people, my youngest cousin was the only one to be successful at taking my advice. How unfortunate... Quote "I wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana." - Wall of Voodoo http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/fb910e0baa5b4e108ffee98f66cdb3cc.gif
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