TheJenn88 Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 What about anorexia? Most people will argue that it is a state of mind, and something one cannot control, thus not necessarily being self inflicted. Therefore, coming to the general conclusion that since it is not self-inflicted, they should be covered by insurance. Eating disorders are not just for thin people. They are for severely overweight people, too. However, if you believe that someone can choose not to be anorexic, then my whole argument goes out the window. But that's just it. How can a company conclude that a fat person should be fired, or an anorexic one? Is it a mental problem? Or a self-inflicted problem? Quote
Lethalfind Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 What about anorexia? Most people will argue that it is a state of mind, and something one cannot control, thus not necessarily being self inflicted. Therefore, coming to the general conclusion that since it is not self-inflicted, they should be covered by insurance. Eating disorders are not just for thin people. They are for severely overweight people, too. However, if you believe that someone can choose not to be anorexic, then my whole argument goes out the window. But that's just it. How can a company conclude that a fat person should be fired, or an anorexic one? Is it a mental problem? Or a self-inflicted problem? I can tell you from when I worked at a mental health insurance company, Anorexia and Bulemia are considered mental health disorders that a person can get the insurance company to pay for treatment. They also have a DSM diagnoses code. Being fat does not however. There are diagnoses codes for being fat but they are not categorized as a mental health issue. In fact when a person wants a gastric bypass, they have to have a psych eval before the doctor will do the procedure just to make sure there isn't a mental health diagnoses getting in the way...confusing I know. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
TheJenn88 Posted February 1, 2006 Posted February 1, 2006 I can tell you from when I worked at a mental health insurance company, Anorexia and Bulemia are considered mental health disorders that a person can get the insurance company to pay for treatment. They also have a DSM diagnoses code. Being fat does not however. There are diagnoses codes for being fat but they are not categorized as a mental health issue. In fact when a person wants a gastric bypass, they have to have a psych eval before the doctor will do the procedure just to make sure there isn't a mental health diagnoses getting in the way...confusing I know. Hmm that's interesting. It's just that I've heard from my friend who's studying psych at university that people on both ends of the spectrum in terms of weight could/should be classified as having some sort of EDNOS, anorexia, or bulimia Quote
Cogito Ergo Sum Posted February 1, 2006 Posted February 1, 2006 I Quote . I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/
Lethalfind Posted February 1, 2006 Posted February 1, 2006 Hmm that's interesting. It's just that I've heard from my friend who's studying psych at university that people on both ends of the spectrum in terms of weight could/should be classified as having some sort of EDNOS, anorexia, or bulimia I have to say I agree with you and your friend on that. Have you ever watched Dr Phil and seen some of the people who he brings on, some of them 400-500 lbs? If thats not a mental health issue then what is? Unfortunately the insurance companies have the field by the shorthairs, they get in the way of really treating the patiences. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
ToriAllen Posted February 1, 2006 Posted February 1, 2006 I Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
Lethalfind Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 I frankly don't see why an employer should care what you do on your break. Its when someone requires more then the usual breaks to get in their smoking I think it becomes a problem. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
Tex Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 ...I know there are employers out there that want to piss test their employees for nicotine, and will fire them if they come up positive. They are doing this in order to lower their health care costs. If employers can do this, why can't they fire employees for being fat? Let's face it. Smokers are addicted to nicotine, and fat people are addicted to food. Agree with everything in your post, except the addiction part. To me, an addiction implies an illness, and you don't get a choice about whether you're ill or not. You can choose to stop drinking, smoking, over eating, and you can stop immediately. And if you do, your health will improve. Not so with a REAL addiction. A true addict has to be weaned off whatever he's addicted too under medical supervision or death is a real danger in many cases. The word addiction has been espoused by fatties, drinkers, and smokers cause it gives them an excuse for their condition. By using that word, people give their chosen vice an air of respectability, and if we accept it, we play into their fantasy too. Fat people, smokers, and drinkers... Got no problem with 'em. Drink and smoke myself. It's just people who can't face the truth that winds me up. Even more so, when they have the hypocritical gall to criticise others. Quote I'll just have a shit, and then I'll feel better.
Cogito Ergo Sum Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 You're doing a fine job Tex! I'm loving this. Keep it up! munches popcorn eagerly Quote . I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/
lilcutie8900 Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 hey angie i totally agree with you. sure its their fault for being fat. they chooose to eat all that mcdonalds. and then their parents go and sue mcdonalds for nothing. that fatass chose to get fat not mcdonalds. the fat kid could of passed but no he had to get more and more food in that fat ass body of his. Quote Member - F.C.W.O.A. Future Crack Whores of America
Tex Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 Supermarkets could do more to help too... Like putting all their cakes and pies in aisles that are too narrow for fatties to get down. Common sense. Quote I'll just have a shit, and then I'll feel better.
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