Reasons we should invade .... If we wanted world domination

[builder]

Ford still makes their own cars? Amazing.

[italiano_Pride]

Seeing the title of this thread I have one thing to say: there are no reasons. World domination is as unacievable as world peace so long as their are struggles for power, revolotions, and lunatics in the world. Why try to carry something out if it s a worthless endeavor?

[builder]

If you think that you can destabilise China's economy, you'll have to do better than that. You think the US is the only market they are supplying?

[fullauto]

IF, let's say we pulled out of Wallmart completely........

 

1. China's GDP would fall about 13% right off the bat, which doesn't sound like much, but it would put a MAJOR stop to their agenda...

2. The resulting economic scale-back would either

a. Devalue their currency as they could not cut back on spending based on thier population, and would thus have to borrow huge sums of money just to keep existing projects going... OR

b. cut back even further on social assistance to stay afloat..

 

Either way, I really think we would drive this sleeping giant into the ideological hand of our enemies one way or the other....

 

That would be fine, if we wanted to pick a fight with China! But we don't... Not right now...

 

Right now we should keep them happy by supplying us with cheap, effortless, educationless doo-dads... It keeps us with cheap curtains and shit, keeps them dependent on OUR economy, and keeps their HUGE population from getting too clever... When and if we need to deal with them, all we have to do is impose sanctions... They would either have to go to war with the worlds largest nuclear force, or capitulate! One way or the other, we need to deal with them later... not now...

[Hamza123]

What was it like 2000 nukes the US has ?? Just get rid of the world in 24 hours... Or do what the terrorists do... Strike at any time, in a large way..

 

For example, if you were to take over a country like the US, you could really cause mass destruction and perhaps a fall of economic structure by forest fires, explosions, oil drought, spread of harmful chemicals, etc...

 

Or...

 

Allie with Russia under the table and take over the world... Hey, you guys can share right?

[fullauto]

What was it like 2000 nukes the US has ?? Just get rid of the world in 24 hours... Or do what the terrorists do... Strike at any time, in a large way..

 

For example, if you were to take over a country like the US, you could really cause mass destruction and perhaps a fall of economic structure by forest fires, explosions, oil drought, spread of harmful chemicals, etc...

 

Or...

 

Allie with Russia under the table and take over the world... Hey, you guys can share right?

 

That's just not it! I don't think you get it... Nuking the whole world is a) Just not sportsman like b) Leaves little that we would actually want and c) Too god damned easy and just plain ole un american...

 

Just look at how we fight... We never fight to win totally... if that were the case we would stop tieing our own hands behind our backs when we fight countries that are a marked disadvantage... No... We put all sorts of stupid rules on us that our enemy is too smart to adhere to...

 

It seems like for some reason, the US just can't fight an over whelming fight.. We always put oursleves at a disadvantage some how.. Maybe we fight better thinking we are the underdog?

 

Either way, We can't just nuke everyone... it's just not our way, and besides, the ONLY way we would ever use those things again is if we were struck with one first... Look how many conflict we have been in and never launched one... We'll never use those as a first strike.. never...

[phreakwars]

I agree, NUKES would never be an option in a world domination scenario. It's not because of all the death it would cause, but the destruction it causes. Radiation for years, uninhabitable lands, etc.. If your gonna claim the land, you want to be able to use it either for living, or for its resources. I believe it IS possible to rule the world, it's just no country would dare try for fear of failure, and... really, there is no reason to WANT to rule the world. IMO, the only countrys that could POSSIBLY achive world domination would be China, America, or Saudi Arabia because of the stronghold on the livelyhood each of these countrys has to not only their people, but the rest of the world as well economically.

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[TheJenn88]

I agree, NUKES would never be an option in a world domination scenario. It's not because of all the death it would cause, but the destruction it causes. Radiation for years, uninhabitable lands, etc.. If your gonna claim the land, you want to be able to use it either for living, or for its resources. I believe it IS possible to rule the world, it's just no country would dare try for fear of failure, and... really, there is no reason to WANT to rule the world. IMO, the only countrys that could POSSIBLY achive world domination would be China, America, or Saudi Arabia because of the stronghold on the livelyhood each of these countrys has to not only their people, but the rest of the world as well economically.

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Also, it's like a cat killing the mouse, and never playing with it. They just can't do it! The cat has to fuck with the mouse first a lil bit, and bit by bit, they get the little squeaky sucker

[eisanbt]

I agree, NUKES would never be an option in a world domination scenario. It's not because of all the death it would cause, but the destruction it causes. Radiation for years, uninhabitable lands, etc.. If your gonna claim the land, you want to be able to use it either for living, or for its resources. I believe it IS possible to rule the world, it's just no country would dare try for fear of failure, and... really, there is no reason to WANT to rule the world. IMO, the only countrys that could POSSIBLY achive world domination would be China, America, or Saudi Arabia because of the stronghold on the livelyhood each of these countrys has to not only their people, but the rest of the world as well economically.

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You don't need to accually exercise your nuclear arsenal for it to be effective. My earlier plan was based around this, that the mere existance of it allows you control over those without. Like holding a gun to somebodys head, they comply or they die. Most would choose the comply one.

[phreakwars]

So my strategy thus far to rule the world, keep in mind, it is NOT an overnight plan by far:

 

Open borders between Canada and MeHeeko, make the U.S. even BIGGER !!

 

Take out unneeded humans first (the weak), which would mean Africa, the whole fucking continet !!

 

Place troops on northeastern borders of continet to secure border

 

Pretend to be sending in medical aid, but actually be sending in military supplies and agents to slowly kill the population (NWO sidenote: A.I.D.S. virus) after the entire population is infected and have died off, and the troop count is high enough, begin using resources.. as NOBODY now owns the land... hidden forest tribes can be hunted for sport....

 

Next, you need to include greenland and iceland as american soil. And position your forces on Europe from those key positions... this is where it gets tough...Stuck on what the next move would be... do I intergrate into another culture and let people live, or do I erradicate Europe and control the world in the name of the U.S. ??

 

Logically, why start a war when you don't have to, your just fighting to survive, and now that the weak are gone, all that really leaves left, are the assholes...

 

So I would have to go with getting my european alliance at this point over erradicating them..

 

I guess my NEXT move would be FORCED COMPLIANCE with my ideals, or WAR with death and destruction on both sides.

 

I mean... if you want to RULE... you need to have a cause..I guess the U.S. would probably use something like...ohhh...DEMOCRACY..as an excuse...

 

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[fullauto]

I mean... if you want to RULE... you need to have a cause..I guess the U.S. would probably use something like...ohhh...DEMOCRACY..as an excuse...

 

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Take this for what it is, a comment on world domination from a Nazi, but if you need a cause to whip up support from the civies at home, a national threat (eg Nuclear Ambitions) would be a much better alternative to 'the spread of democracy'...

 

PS: IT actually hurts me to say that because I know it's going to fuel anti US/Bush sentiment by my sandal wearing friends here on GF, but it is the TRUTH, and therefore must be said... If the US does indeed have Global ambitions, they are certainly on the right track!

 

Damn I hate to conceed!

[builder]

So you don't want to use nukes of the scale of those dropped in Japan?

 

That's very heartening. You are aware that the neutron bomb was never shelved as being the work of the devil, but development continued undercover, and the latest breed of this insidious device is ready to go.

 

Also, smaller tactical nukes, like the bunker-buster, are passe now. Research into curing most cancers has advanced to the point that tossing depleted uranium all over the battlefields is passe right about now.

 

So, while good intentions are great, US troop numbers are stretched so thinly right about now, that either conscription must be reinstated, and massive capital injected into training troops, or tactical nukes will become so commonplace, that nobody will even give a shit.

[fullauto]

So you don't want to use nukes of the scale of those dropped in Japan?

 

That's very heartening. You are aware that the neutron bomb was never shelved as being the work of the devil, but development continued undercover, and the latest breed of this insidious device is ready to go.

 

Also, smaller tactical nukes, like the bunker-buster, are passe now. Research into curing most cancers has advanced to the point that tossing depleted uranium all over the battlefields is passe right about now.

 

So, while good intentions are great, US troop numbers are stretched so thinly right about now, that either conscription must be reinstated, and massive capital injected into training troops, or tactical nukes will become so commonplace, that nobody will even give a shit.

 

IF it gets to the point of us needing tactical nukes, so be it... but I seriously doubt we will need them... Like I said, we would only launch them if we were nuked ourselves... and since I don't think any COUNTRY would dare out of fear of retaliation, and we are dealing with the other cases now (terrorists), I really don't think it will ever come to that...

 

But if it did...

 

 

BOOM!

[builder]

IF it gets to the point of us needing tactical nukes, so be it... but I seriously doubt we will need them... Like I said, we would only launch them if we were nuked ourselves... and since I don't think any COUNTRY would dare out of fear of retaliation, and we are dealing with the other cases now (terrorists), I really don't think it will ever come to that...

 

But if it did...

 

 

BOOM!

 

But what about the troop shortage, and the lack of new recruits willing to join up? Patriotism may still be alive and kicking, but common sense and self-preservation are coming to the fore. Enlistments are down.

 

Iraq has been similar to Korea, in that the allies, and the rebels, are one and same blood. Hard to pick them from eachother.

 

So, the question is, do you support conscription? Someone must fight this war on terror. Not that I ever believed in a war against an unknown entity.

 

But this is about a proposed takeover of the world, so knock yourself out.

 

How many troops will need to be conscripted (press-ganged) into the military, and what is the cut-off age for such conscription?

[fullauto]

But what about the troop shortage, and the lack of new recruits willing to join up? Patriotism may still be alive and kicking, but common sense and self-preservation are coming to the fore. Enlistments are down.

 

Iraq has been similar to Korea, in that the allies, and the rebels, are one and same blood. Hard to pick them from eachother.

 

So, the question is, do you support conscription? Someone must fight this war on terror. Not that I ever believed in a war against an unknown entity.

 

But this is about a proposed takeover of the world, so knock yourself out.

 

How many troops will need to be conscripted (press-ganged) into the military, and what is the cut-off age for such conscription?

 

I actually don't support conscription in the sense that we should not need it... The reasons why we would run far and deep, be we should not need it... But you are right, if it did come to the point that we did need a draft, so be it... I think it's high fucking time our generation learns what a sacrafice really is... anyway, any proposed take over of the world would take YEARS and would involve more than 1 generation... chances are we would not need to draft...

[snafu]

I actually don't support conscription in the sense that we should not need it... The reasons why we would run far and deep, be we should not need it... But you are right, if it did come to the point that we did need a draft, so be it... I think it's high fucking time our generation learns what a sacrafice really is... anyway, any proposed take over of the world would take YEARS and would involve more than 1 generation... chances are we would not need to draft...

 

Yeah in the Middle East the kids are being taught to shoot AK47's while our kids learn to pretend to shoot them on Playstations.

[fullauto]

Yeah in the Middle East the kids are being taught to shoot AK47's while our kids learn to pretend to shoot them on Playstations.

 

by the time our kids will need to defend themselves, they should all be 400 lbs, with diabetes... fuck em...

[ImWithStupid]

by the time our kids will need to defend themselves, they should all be 400 lbs, with diabetes... fuck em...

 

don't forget about asthma too.

 

For what it's worth, they actually say that games like Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon is teaching military tactics though.

 

The military is using the same gaming engines for training materials.

[fullauto]

Don't forget Grand Theft Auto... We need to train children how to be better civil vagrants! Fucking Communists!

[phreakwars]

IMO, we already HAVE nuked the middle east, they just don't know it yet.... or do they ???

 

Here is where things are falling on deaf ears, and it was a point builder was trying to make as well..

 

Any of you guys who are Military know for a FACT that MANY of the bombs dropped in Iraq not only this time around, as well as LAST time around, were all contaminated with radioactive shit to help bust loose bunkers and other such heavy machinery type weaponry when needed. The radiation exposure in the middle east can't quite be compared to nuclear fall out, but the REAL damage HAS been done in this radiation.

 

If you wanted to theorize, the US basically started the eradication of Islam progress right where it was easiest to find an excuse to do it... in IRAQ..

 

So if you think about it.... who says that a NUKE HAS to cause IMMEDIATE massive death ??

 

Think of the possibilities here. The strain of H.I.V. that many Africans are infected with, is different then the strain that runs rampant in other parts of the world.

 

A.I.D.S. cases have actually DECREASED in the U.S. , although not cured, we still seem to have it under control for the most part.

 

Africa, being a poor nation, and under educated as well, not to mention is infested with ******s who do nothing but fuck and populate and starve and get sick, within a couple generations, will probably be no more, only those who are educated enough and refined enough in Africa will live, this helps the all around amount of food stamps we are feeding these fuckers to live and reduces our tax burden.

 

Hell yeah we will prosper !!! Thank en'ki we have the N.W.O.

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[builder]

Not to mention taking out half of your own veterans with undisclosed illnesses, loosely grouped under Gulf War sickness. I wonder if the new crop will be called Iraq war sickness, or perhaps, noWMD sickness?

 

Regardless, injured vets are an unnecessary expense, lingering long after their usefull working lives. Best to remember them as heroes, and have them die young, than have them hanging around, eating up defense budgets, and harping on about how sick they are.

 

Which brings me back to my conscription question. Who will fight this Age of Empires war?

[fullauto]

Which brings me back to my conscription question. Who will fight this Age of Empires war?

 

If Phreak is right, radioactive particles, and viruses will fight it for us...

[phreakwars]

Sure, you know Iran is gonna get it next... they won't need to nuke em, just hit em with some missle here and there and some cannon shells all contaminated with the same shit they used in Iraq, and that's 2 countrys down....my guess is that strike in Tora Bora and the other battles to get to Bin Laden, are probably JUST NOW showing their REAL effect on the populations surrounded by the remaining radiation. So I guess my next question, is who is gonna be our next target... is it IRAN for sure ??

 

As for the VIRUS.... who says it COULDN'T have been invented in a lab ?? Then released out into the scourage populations of Africa, and a less contagious strain into the Gay communities.

 

Hell you NEVER hear A.I.D.S./HIV commercials on TV anymore, or even safe sex commercials rarely, yet cases are down in the US .... why ??

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[fullauto]

Hell you NEVER hear A.I.D.S./HIV commercials on TV anymore, or even safe sex commercials rarely, yet cases are down in the US .... why ??

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AIDS infections are down in this country within certain groups... eg, White people and gays... Sad but true... look it up... But African Americans are contracting it and spreading it at the same rate as they always have...

 

The reason you don't see commercials for it anymore, is that it is no longer affecting those who would pay for treatment, or those who would seek treatment if they contracted it.... A report not to long ago (will find it and post later) that I read attributed AIDS rate amoung African Americans to some key factors that differ from other groups and them...

 

They were...

 

1. No drop in sexual exploits, or even more sexual exploits

2. Lack of seeking treatment, or even testing

3. Very early first sexual encounter rate that leads to unprotected sex by those new to sex...

 

Don't agree with it all, but the first two seem to make sense..

 

Need to find that report... it was interesting to say the least...

[fullauto]

Mexicans don't steal jobs, corporations GIVE them jobs.

 

See, corporations want as cheap of labor as possible. Do you think a rich white college educated American will do some mindless shit job for minimum wage? Didn't think so.

 

First off, my cerebrum challenged friend, I said nothing about stealing jobs you little zealot... I said, SECURE JOBS FOR AMERICANS! As opposed to Securing jobs for, let's say, Puerto Ricans...

 

And I do believe you made mention of the fact that a strong influx of third world (cheap) labor is critical to a healthy economy... So why should a rich white kid do a job that pays $1.25/hr when he can go to school and let someone else to that job that really wants it?

 

You are a fucking basket of contradictions... Cheap Mexican Labor HELPS OUT RICH WHITE PEOPLE... both privately and in the corporate world! So why the fuck would you defend it by saying 'it's critical to a healthy economy', then, when I say secure jobs for Americans, go out post something that is basically saying Corporations/White people are greedy and give these jobs away, as opposed to Mexicans stealing them, in a bid to secure more wealth?

 

You're a fucking communist remember?! How the fuck would you know what comprises a healthy economy?

 

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Which is it... Is cheap Mexican labor a good or bad thing?

 

Fact #1: it makes us greedy capitalists richer - Bad thing (as a result of the healthy economy)

Fact #2: it makes the economy healthy - good thing (as a result of capitalist getting richer)

 

So which is it?

 

You are a FUCKING KID ! ! You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about, and you are all wrapped up in this wave of little whiny fucks that feel they have nothing to offer the world and turn to Communism to be different (even though you're just like all your whiny fucking emo friends!)

 

I would like to officially extend my vote for KVH to go the the idiot box ....