Cogito Ergo Sum Posted February 2, 2006 Posted February 2, 2006 Okay all you neo-cons. Read this, and tell me exactly what you think is wrong with it. To me, this man, JOHN P. MURTHA - Member of Congress, is very intelligent and his ideas are excellent. Wednesday February 1, 2006 The Honorable George W. Bush President of the United States of America 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Washington DC 20500 Dear Mr. President, This March will mark the beginning of the 4th year of the war in Iraq. In contrast, U.S. involvement in WWI came to an end after 19 months. Victory in Europe was declared in WWII after 3 years 5 months. In the Korean War, a cease-fire was signed after 3 years and 1 month. But after more than three and a half years into the war in Iraq, your administration finally produced what is called a "Plan for Victory" in Iraq. Iraq is not the center for the global war on terrorism. I believe Iraq has diverted our attention away from the fight against global terrorism and has depleted the required resources needed to wage an effective war. It is estimated that there are only about 750 to 1,000 al-Qaeda in Iraq. I believe the Iraqis will force them out or kill them after U.S. troops are gone. In fact, there is now evidence that Iraqi insurgent groups are increasingly turning against al-Qaeda and other foreign terrorists. Our country needs a vigorous and comprehensive strategy for victory against global terrorism. The architect of 9/11 is still out there but now has an international microphone. We must get back to the real issue at hand - we have to root out and destroy al-Qaeda's worldwide network. There are 4 key elements that I recommend to reinvigorate our global anti-terrorism effort: Redeploy, Replace, Reallocate, and Reconstitute. Redeploy The war in Iraq is fueling terrorism, not eliminating it. Our continued military presence feeds the strong anti-foreigner fervor that has existed in this part of the world for centuries. A vast majority of the Iraqi people now view American troops as occupiers, not liberators. Over 80% of Iraqis want U.S. forces to leave Iraq and 47% think it is justified to attack Americans. 70% of Iraqis favor a timetable for withdrawal of U.S. forces, with half favoring a withdrawal in the next six months. In fact, 67% of Iraqis expect day-to-day security for Iraqi citizens will improve if U.S. forces withdraw in six months and over 60% believe violent attacks, including those that are ethnically motivated, will decrease. Our military presence is the single most important reason why the Iraqis have tolerated the foreign terrorists, who account for less than 7 percent of the insurgency. 93% of the insurgency is made up of Iraqis. Once our troops are re-deployed, the Iraqis will reject the terrorists and deny them a safe haven in Iraq. The Iraqis are against a foreign presence in Iraq of any kind. The steadfast and valiant efforts of the United States military and coalition partners have provided the Iraqi people with the framework needed to self govern. The Iraqis held elections that have been touted as highly successful, based primarily on the accounts of Iraqis who went to the polls. But our continued military presence in Iraq, regardless of the motives behind it, is seen by Iraqis as interfering in Iraq's democratic process and undercuts the chances for the newly elected government to be successful. Recently, Iraq's National Security Adviser accused U.S. negotiators of going behind the back of the Iraqi government on talks with insurgents, saying the process could encourage more violence. He said, "Americans are making a huge and fatal mistake in their policy for appeasement and they should not do this. They should leave the Iraqi government to deal with it... The United States should allow the new Iraqi government to decide on how to quell the insurgency." In December 2005, an ABC News poll in Iraq produced some noteworthy results. 57% of Iraqis identified national security as the country's top priority. When asked to rate the confidence in public institutions, they gave Iraqi police a 68% confidence level, the Iraqi army 67%, religious leaders 67%. But the U.S./U.K. forces scored the lowest, a mere 18%. The longer our military stays in Iraq, the more unwelcome we will be. We will be increasingly entangled in an open-ended nation building mission, one that our military can not accomplish amidst a civil war. Our troops will continue to be the targets of Iraqis who see them as interfering occupiers. Redeploying our forces from Iraq and stationing a mobile force outside of the country removes a major antagonizing factor. I believe we will see a swift demise of foreign terrorist groups in Iraq if we redeploy outside of the country. Further, our troops will no longer be the targets of bloody attacks. Replace The ever-changing justifications of the war in Iraq, combined with tragic missteps, have resulted in a worldwide collapse of support for U.S. policies in Iraq. The credibility of the United States of America will not be restored if we continue down the path of saying one thing and doing another. We must not lower our standards and tactics to those of the terrorists. In order to keep our homeland secure, we must hold true to the values that molded our American democracy, even in the face of adversity. Former Secretary of Homeland Security, Tom Ridge, said it best during a speech in March 2004 to the Institute of Defense and Strategic Studies: "America knows we cannot seek a double standard. And, America knows we get what we give. And so we must and will always be careful to respect people's privacy, civil liberties and reputations. To suggest that there is a tradeoff between security and individual freedoms -- that we must discard one protection for the other -- is a false choice. You do not defend liberty to forsake it." Restoring the world's confidence in America as a competent and morally superior world leader is essential to winning the war on global terrorism. A recent pubic opinion poll, conducted jointly with Zogby International and taken in Jordan, Lebanon, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates, found that 81% said the war in Iraq had brought less peace to the Middle East. A majority of the respondents said they view the United States as the biggest threat to their nations. Mr. President, I believe in order to restore our credibility, you must hold accountable those responsible for so many missteps and install a fresh team that demonstrates true diplomatic skill, knowledge of cultural differences and a willingness to earnestly engage other leaders in a respectful and constructive way. This would do much to reinvigorate international participation in a truly effective war on global terrorism. Reallocate The Department of Defense has been allocated $238 billion for the war in Iraq, with average monthly costs growing significantly since the beginning of the war. In 2003 the average monthly war cost was $4.4 billion; by 2005 the average monthly cost had reached $6.1 billion. Despite the urgent homeland security needs of our country, the bipartisan 9/11 Commission issued a dismal report card on the efforts to improve our counter-terrorist defenses. Even the most basic of recommendations, such as the coordination of fire and police communication lines, still have not been accomplished. In the face of threats from international terrorists, we need to reallocate funds from the war in Iraq to protecting the United States against attack. A safe and swift redeployment from Iraq will allow us to do just that. <CONTINUED IN NEXT POST> Quote . I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/
Cogito Ergo Sum Posted February 2, 2006 Author Posted February 2, 2006 <CONTINUED FROM FIRST POST> Reconstitute The U.S. army is the smallest it's been since 1941. It is highly capable. But this drawn out conflict has put tremendous stress on our military, particularly on our Army and Marine Corps, whose operations tempo has increased substantially since 9/11. The Government Accountability Office issued a report in November 2005 addressing the challenges of military personnel recruitment and retention and noted that the Department of Defense had been unable to fill over 112,000 positions in critical occupational specialties. This shortfall includes intelligence analysts, special forces, interpreters, and demolition experts-- those on whom we rely so heavily in today's asymmetric battlefield. Some of our troops have been deployed four times over the last three years. Enlistment for the regular forces as well as the guard and reserves are well below recruitment goals. In 2005, the Army missed its recruitment goal for the first time since 1999, even after offering enlistment bonuses and incentives, lowering its monthly goals, and lowering its recruitment standards. As Retired Army officer Andrew Krepinevich recently warned in a report to the Pentagon, the Army is "in a race against time" to adjust to the demands of war "or risk 'breaking' the force in the form of a catastrophic decline" in recruitment and re-enlistment. The harsh environment in which we are operating our equipment in Iraq, combined with the equipment usage rate (ten times greater than peacetime levels) is taking a heavy toll on our ground equipment. It is currently estimated that $50 billion will be required to refurbish this equipment. Further, in its response to Hurricane Katrina, the National Guard realized that it had over $1.3 billion in equipment shortfalls. This has created a tremendous burden on non-deployed guard units, on whom this country depends so heavily to respond to domestic disasters and possible terrorist attacks. Without relief, Army Guard units will face growing equipment shortages and challenges in regaining operational readiness for future missions at home and overseas. Since 9/11, Congress has appropriated about $334 billion for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, while the insurgents have spent hundreds of thousands. We have seen reports estimating that the total cost of the wars may reach as high as $1 trillion. These estimates are said to include such costs as providing long-term disability benefits and care for injured service members. It is estimated today that over 16,000 U.S. troops have been wounded in Iraq, 10,481 of whom have been wounded by "weaponry explosive devices." But while war costs continue to climb, cuts are being made to the defense budget. As soon as the war is over there will be pressure to cut even more. This year, even while we are at war, 8 billion dollars was cut from the base defense spending bill. You ordered another $32 billion in cuts to the defense budget over the next five years, with $11.6 billion coming from the Army. The Pentagon told Congress only last year that it needed 77 combat brigades to fulfill its missions, but now insists it only needs 70. In fact, 6 of the 7 combat brigades will be cut from the National Guard, reducing its combat units from 34 to 28. Even though all of the National Guard combat brigades have been deployed overseas since 9/11, your Administration has determined that, because of funding shortfalls, our combat ground forces can be reduced. Not only will these cuts diminish our combat power, but our ability to respond to natural disasters and terrorist threats to our homeland will be adversely affected. It is obvious that the cost of the war, in conjunction with the Army's inability to meet recruitment goals, has impacted this estimate. My concern is that instead of our force structure being based on the future threat, it is now being based on the number of troops and level of funding available. I am concerned that costly program cuts will lead to costly mistakes and we will be unable to sustain another deployment even if there is a real threat. The future of our military and the future of our country could very well be at stake. The high dollar forecasts of our future military weapons systems and military health care add pressure to cut costs on the backs of these programs. As our weapons systems age, the concern becomes even greater. During a time of war, we are cutting our combat force, we have not mobilized industry, and have never fully mobilized our military. On our current path, I believe that we are not only in danger of breaking our military, but that we are increasing the chances of a major miscalculation by our future enemies, who may perceive us as vulnerable. Sincerely, JOHN P. MURTHA Member of Congress Quote . I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 Okay all you neo-cons. Read this, and tell me exactly what you think is wrong with it. To me, this man, JOHN P. MURTHA - Member of Congress, is very intelligent and his ideas are excellent. Wednesday February 1, 2006 The Honorable George W. Bush President of the United States of America 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Washington DC 20500 Dear Mr. President, This March will mark the beginning of the 4th year of the war in Iraq. In contrast, U.S. involvement in WWI came to an end after 19 months. Victory in Europe was declared in WWII after 3 years 5 months. In the Korean War, a cease-fire was signed after 3 years and 1 month... Well, well, here we have in the first fucking sentence a blatant attempt at deception. 1) Victory in Iraq was declared in 2003 only one month after hostilities began. 2) The insurgency has continued now for 3 years. 3) Victory in Europe was declared 3 and half years after hostilities began (between the US and Germany) 4) The german insurgency (the werewolves: mostly ex-SS and pro nazi terrorists) continued well into 1948 ... 3 years after Victory was declared in Europe. So kiss off! This MORON is a loser, and I refuse to read the rest of his bullshit! 1 Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
neilsthepoet Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 A piece of trash is a piece of trash A suck up is a suck up He’s over the edge and around the bend He’s a pretender to manhood’s mantle And a friend to no real fighting men He probably dates Nanci Pelosi And wants Cindy Sheehan next He’s a used to be wanna be And a living trashed out wreck Real Marines hate him And laugh at his two faced ways He speaks out of both sides of his mouth And still has absolutely nothing to say He’s the kind that sissies quote To show their military expertise While hoisting their white flag of surrender And recommending their cut and run Version of Peace Neils 10:17 am 02/03/2006 written in response to another drooling fool presenting Burkha Murtha as anything but a shrill high whining shill.. but could also be applied to the likes of of Gigilo Kerry and Generally Wrong Wessie Clark N….again Quote I am the learning curve's downward spiral.
Cogito Ergo Sum Posted February 3, 2006 Author Posted February 3, 2006 Well, well, here we have in the first fucking sentence a blatant attempt at deception. 1) Victory in Iraq was declared in 2003 only one month after hostilities began. 2) The insurgency has continued now for 3 years. 3) Victory in Europe was declared 3 and half years after hostilities began (between the US and Germany) 4) The german insurgency (the werewolves: mostly ex-SS and pro nazi terrorists) continued well into 1948 ... 3 years after Victory was declared in Europe. So kiss off! This MORON is a loser, and I refuse to read the rest of his bullshit! God God MRIH...you are a complete idiot. You try to play semantics games and only come up looking the complete fool. It doesn't surprise me one bit that you cannot debate even one of the major points of his ideas. Morons like you can't formulate cognitive thinking in your pea brained minds. You're worthless...truly. Quote . I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/
Cogito Ergo Sum Posted February 3, 2006 Author Posted February 3, 2006 A piece of trash is a piece of trash A suck up is a suck up He Quote . I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 God God MRIH...you are a complete idiot. You try to play semantics games and only come up looking the complete fool. It doesn't surprise me one bit that you cannot debate even one of the major points of his ideas. Morons like you can't formulate cognitive thinking in your pea brained minds. You're worthless...truly.Flatery will get you EVERYWHERE! Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
neilsthepoet Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 Oh yeah tell me all about the "Ditch Witch" On Cindy Sheehan: However, she has branched out into denouncing the military and the United States itself. According to FPM contributor Lee Kaplan, Sheehan likened convicted terrorist lawyer Lynne Stewart to literary hero Atticus Finch at a rally at San Francisco State University. Stewart passed on messages from convicted 1993 World Trade Center bomber Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman to his terror cell in Egypt and often pledged her belief in the morality of anti-capitalist violence. According to Kaplan’s account, Sheehan’s rhetoric that evening could as easily have been written by the “Blind Sheikh” himself; she, too, regarded America as the “Great Satan”: Presented this time by: Neils 8:49 pm 02/05/2006 1 Quote I am the learning curve's downward spiral.
ImWithStupid Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 Oh yeah tell me all about the "Ditch Witch" On Cindy Sheehan: However, she has branched out into denouncing the military and the United States itself. According to FPM contributor Lee Kaplan, Sheehan likened convicted terrorist lawyer Lynne Stewart to literary hero Atticus Finch at a rally at San Francisco State University. Stewart passed on messages from convicted 1993 World Trade Center bomber Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman to his terror cell in Egypt and often pledged her belief in the morality of anti-capitalist violence. According to Kaplan Quote
ToriAllen Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 Okay all you neo-cons. Read this, and tell me exactly what you think is wrong with it. To me, this man, JOHN P. MURTHA - Member of Congress, is very intelligent and his ideas are excellent. Wednesday February 1, 2006 The Honorable George W. Bush President of the United States of America 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Washington DC 20500 Dear Mr. President, This March will mark the beginning of the 4th year of the war in Iraq. In contrast, U.S. involvement in WWI came to an end after 19 months. Victory in Europe was declared in WWII after 3 years 5 months. In the Korean War, a cease-fire was signed after 3 years and 1 month.... My God. Can't you learn to summarize? I Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
Cogito Ergo Sum Posted February 6, 2006 Author Posted February 6, 2006 Oh yeah tell me all about the "Ditch Witch" On Cindy Sheehan: However, she has branched out into denouncing the military and the United States itself. According to FPM contributor Lee Kaplan, Sheehan likened convicted terrorist lawyer Lynne Stewart to literary hero Atticus Finch at a rally at San Francisco State University. Stewart passed on messages from convicted 1993 World Trade Center bomber Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman to his terror cell in Egypt and often pledged her belief in the morality of anti-capitalist violence. According to Kaplan’s account, Sheehan’s rhetoric that evening could as easily have been written by the “Blind Sheikh” himself; she, too, regarded America as the “Great Satan”: Presented this time by: Neils 8:49 pm 02/05/2006 Okay, I will. First, here's the actual transcript of the speech you are using in your writings. While she is no polished public speaker, I can appreciate her efforts to speak her mind. Cindy Sheehan (Military Families Speak Out; Goldstar Families for Peace; her son Casey was killed in the Iraq War) First, I want to give my little story about Lynne. Of course, you all have read To Kill a Mockingbird. Lynne is my human Atticus Finch. He did what he knew was right, but wasn’t popular. And that’s what Lynne is doing. {applause} We are not waging a war on terror in this country. We’re waging a war of terror. The biggest terrorist in the world is George W. Bush. {applause} How many more people are we going to let him kill before we stop him? I’m going to talk about free speech and recruitment. Do you know that it costs $66,000 to recruit one recruit? That’s continuing all of their – you know, the recruiter’s salary, the recruiter’s bonus, the place that they rent to recruit and things like that. All the perks they get and everything. That’s not even training the recruit. It costs our government about $6,000 a year on each child in California. $46,000 a year to house a prisoner in our state. Our priorities are seriously screwed up, as I mentioned. I really want to thank you guys for doing this, especially the young people. It gives me so much hope to know that there’s young people who care more about who’s our next American Idol – less about that. You guys care more about people being killed. There’s too many that care more about the next American Idol. Too many people in our country that don’t even really know we have a war going on. You know, they never have to think of the war, and I’ll never, ever forget this war. I can never forget it, even when I’m sleeping {tears} I know that we’re in a war and I know that George Bush and his band of neo-cons and their neo-con agenda killed my son. And I’ll never, ever, ever forget. I take responsibility partly for my son’s death, too. I was raised in a country by a public school system that taught us that America was good, that America was just. America has been killing people, like my sister over here says, since we first stepped on this continent, we have been responsible for death and destruction. I passed on that bullshit to my son and my son enlisted. I’m going all over the country telling moms: “This country is not worth dying for. If we’re attacked, we would all go out. We’d all take whatever we had. I’d take my rolling pin and I’d beat the attackers over the head with it. But we were not attacked by Iraq. {applause} We might not even have been attacked by Osama bin Laden if {applause}. 9/11 was their Pearl Harbor to get their neo-con agenda through and, if I would have known that before my son was killed, I would have taken him to Canada. I would never have let him go and try and defend this morally repugnant system we have. The people are good, the system is morally repugnant. {applause} Please – teach your babies, teach your babies better than I taught my babies. When Congress gave George Bush the right to go to war, they abrogated their constitutional responsibilities and they basically made our constitution null and void. We have no checks and balances in this country. We have no recourse. If they’re going to what they did to Lynne, they don’t have backs they call names, what we need to be is, we the people, we’re their checks and balances. We’re the only checks and balances. We have to stand up and say, Not only is this our school, this is our country. We want our country back and, if we have to impeach everybody from George Bush down to the person who picks up dog shit in Washington, we will impeach all those people. Our country needs to {unintelligible} we need to start over again. I just want to say that you students, Students Against War, you have all my support and all my organization’s support. I told Kristen if you have any actions and you need a ringleader, that I only live about an hour away. I’ll be here. If I can sleep on somebody’s floor, we can have this, we can camp out, do whatever we need. And I just want to way to George Bush and I want to say to the people who are here, that are still sheep {unintelligible} and following him blindly: if George Bush believes his rhetoric and his bullshit, that this is a war for freedom and democracy, that he is spreading freedom and democracy, does he think every person he kills makes Iraq more free? It doesn’t make us more free. It damages our humanity. The whole world is damaged. Our humanity is damaged. If he thinks that it’s so important for Iraq to have a U.S.-imposed sense of freedom and democracy, then he needs to sign up his two little party-animal girls. They need to go this war. They need to fight because a just war, the definition of a just war, and maybe you people here who still think this is a just war, the definition of a just war is one that you would send your own children to die in. That you would go die in yourself. And you aren’t willing to send your own children, or if you’re not willing to go die yourself, then you bring there rest of our kids home now. It is despicable what they’re doing. {applause} What they’re saying, too, is like, it’s okay for Israel to have nuclear weapons. But Iran or Syria better not get nuclear weapons. It’s okay for the United States to have nuclear weapons. It’s okay for the countries that we say it’s okay for. We are waging a nuclear war in Iraq right now. That country is contaminated. It will be contaminated for practically eternity now. It’s okay for them to have them, but Iran or Syria can’t have them. It’s okay for Israel to occupy Palestine, but it’s – yeah – and it’s okay for Iraq to occupy – I mean, for the United States to occupy Iraq, but it’s not okay for Syria to be in Lebanon. They’re a bunch of fucking hypocrites! And we need to, we just need to rise up. We need a revolution and make it be peaceful and make it be loving and let’s just show them all the love we have for humanity because we want to stop the inhumane slaughter. {wild applause} Now onto your unsupported opinions stated as fact. Please, Ms. Sheehan has the right to say ANYTHING she wants in THIS country. I don't care if she says she thinks Bush is a donkey cock sucking transvestite, it's her right to say what she thinks. Don't complain to me about her because you don't like what she says. She feels the same about people like you, and you know something...it's both your rights to say what you like. Free Speech. Lee Kaplan. I love the way you buy into the right wing media label as "terrorist lawyer". Are you really that mentally inept? Did you not know that she was the COURT APPOINTED defense lawyer. That's right Einstein, court appointed; as has been the case in most of her high profile clients. Ms. Kaplan has had the dubious task of being assigned to providing legal defense to despicable people, but this is the very cornerstone of our legal system. Everyone is entitled to the best, strongest, and most vigilant defense available to them regardless of how nasty and unlikeable they may be. You don't like that concept do you? However you are obviously for the violation of the attorney-client privilege and secret evidence which was used to "convict" her; Compliments of the Patriot Act? Hmm. Fair trial? No. The governments media massacre of Ms. Kaplan was as vicious as could be with Ashcroft even making an appearance on the David Letterman show the night of her arrest, so he could tell the US citizens how the terrorist lawyer was now stopped. This in and of itself was a blow to the concept of fair and impartial legal system as there ever was. If it wasn't so criminal it would be a joke! I've as of yet been unable to locate any quotes of Ms. Kaplan where she "pledged her belief in the morality of anti-capitalist violence." Do you have anything to support this? Finally, as to "According to Kaplan’s account, Sheehan’s rhetoric that evening could as easily have been written by the “Blind Sheikh” himself; she, too, regarded America as the “Great Satan”:", just what are you trying to say here? I find no such quote or inference. Did you just make this up? Seems to me that if one takes away your mediocre attempt at poetry, your words falls completely apart when placed under scrutiny. Well? Quote . I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/
Cogito Ergo Sum Posted February 6, 2006 Author Posted February 6, 2006 The most amazing thing here is, not one person can read Mr. Murtha's points, and offer a counterpoint to his. So far it's just been bullshit static about everything but the CONTENT of this man's letter to the President. Nice way to avoid the issue. Anybody got the balls to debate the points of the letter and not this smokescreen bullshit? Quote . I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/
tizz Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 I see MRIH is still the genius he has always been. UUMMMM Vistory is more than just saying you dolt LOL OMG I am not even going to start. it's like rationalizing with a newborn LOL I have to look into this guy a bit more but I have been poking around his name a bit lately. Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
RoyalOrleans Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 Cindy Sheehan can lick my left nut. What a disgrace to herself, her community, and most of all her son. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 The most amazing thing here is, not one person can read Mr. Murtha's points, and offer a counterpoint to his. So far it's just been bullshit static about everything but the CONTENT of this man's letter to the President. Nice way to avoid the issue. Anybody got the balls to debate the points of the letter and not this smokescreen bullshit? Any sane individual would NOT read a letter that started off with a blatant lie in the first sentence. Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
ToriAllen Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 The most amazing thing here is, not one person can read Mr. Murtha's points, and offer a counterpoint to his. So far it's just been bullshit static about everything but the CONTENT of this man's letter to the President. Nice way to avoid the issue. Anybody got the balls to debate the points of the letter and not this smokescreen bullshit? That's because like most of your posts, it's too freakin' long. I see MRIH is still the genius he has always been. UUMMMM Vistory is more than just saying you dolt LOL OMG I am not even going to start. it's like rationalizing with a newborn LOL I have to look into this guy a bit more but I have been poking around his name a bit lately. Actually, victory is declared when the ruling government is toppled, which already happened. Cindy Sheehan can lick my left nut. What a disgrace to herself, her community, and most of all her son. Hear, hear! Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 I see MRIH is still the genius he has always been. UUMMMM Vistory is more than just saying you dolt LOL OMG I am not even going to start. it's like rationalizing with a newborn LOL I have to look into this guy a bit more but I have been poking around his name a bit lately.I see tizz is as ditsy as ever, her little sabatical from GF taught her 0. Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
tizz Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 victory may have been declared, but i would hardly call it a "win" geez you like to get technical there tori LOL As for MRIH? Well it's not worth the extra keystrokes Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
Cogito Ergo Sum Posted February 6, 2006 Author Posted February 6, 2006 That's because like most of your posts, it's too freakin' long. Oh. Next time, I'll write it like a Teletubbie show so that it'll be on your level and you'll be entertained and capable of responding. Quote . I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/
ToriAllen Posted February 7, 2006 Posted February 7, 2006 Oh. Next time, I'll write it like a Teletubbie show so that it'll be on your level and you'll be entertained and capable of responding. Try Jimmy Neutron. That one's much more entertaining. Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
tizz Posted February 7, 2006 Posted February 7, 2006 I actually like jimmy nuetron. Some of them are pretty funny. Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
neilsthepoet Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 Please, Ms. Sheehan has the right to say ANYTHING she wants in THIS country. Oh wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I'm being surpressed. I'm being surpressed. Geeeeeeee Do we have free speech. Thanks for the clue..................duhhhhhhh. Certain people seem to salivate like a dog when you say something they disagree with. They launch right into trying to project onto the other person that they're civil liberty is being infringed upon. BS Capital...........B Capital................S Neils 9:48 pm 03/26/2007 Quote I am the learning curve's downward spiral.
Cogito Ergo Sum Posted April 2, 2007 Author Posted April 2, 2007 A year later you want to respond? LMAO. That must have been one hell of an acid trip... Quote . I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/
neilsthepoet Posted April 2, 2007 Posted April 2, 2007 Oh wow I forgot to tell you You're not the only person in my life Neils 9:40 pm 04/01/2007 Quote I am the learning curve's downward spiral.
RoyalOrleans Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Oh wow I forgot to tell you You're not the only person in my life Neils 9:40 pm 04/01/2007 Were you born an idiot or did you have to work at it? Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
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