Guest Charles & Mambo Duckman Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 Jason wrote: > Don, > It was actually a warning. The reason that I don't ever worry about > standing before the judgement seat of God is because I know that I will > have an advocate standing next to me. When I am asked if I have ever > sinned, I will say, > "Yes, but Jesus died for my sins and I accepted him as my savior while I > was still on the earth." You could to the same thing (see John 3:16) and > you never again have to worry about your judgement day. > jason Isn't it going to be a bitch when Pachamama replies: "Who the fuck is Jesus?" -- Come down off the cross We can use the wood Tom Waits, Come On Up To The House Quote
Guest Robibnikoff Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-0805071828410001@66-52-22-110.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net... > In article <h9r143tsbtqf7gf83d1oq0ea0ebfcscjij@4ax.com>, Don Kresch > <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote: > >> In alt.atheism On Tue, 08 May 2007 12:20:57 -0700, Jason@nospam.com >> (Jason) let us all know that: >> >> >In article <5abcb1F27c3irU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" >> ><witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: >> > >> >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >> >> news:Jason-0705072156340001@66-52-22-48.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net... >> >> > snip >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> So you can't pin it down within a factor of a thousand. Not exactly >> >> >> impressive. >> >> > >> >> > You are correct. I admit that I cannot impress you by telling you > how many >> >> > years ago that God created all life forms. >> >> >> >> What's your evidence that this god exists and created anything? >> > >> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > >> >The best selling book in America. >> >> Not evidence. >> >> Where's your evidence that this god exists and created >> anything? >> >> >> Don > > You have more faith than I have if you actually believe that life can > evolve from non-life. I saw one post indicating that even Darwin believed > that God creating life and than that evolution took over. It takes much > less faith to believe that God created live than to believe that life > evolved from non-life. All people (even evolutionists) will eventually see > the evidence when they stand before the judgement seat of God. I see the > evidence that I need when I visit any state park or look at the stars in > the sky. That's nice - Now do you actually have any evidence or are you just going to post silly shit? -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557 Quote
Guest Robibnikoff Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message snip > It's not a threat. The Bible clearly states that after we die, we will all > stand before the judgement seat of God. So what? That certainly doesn't make it true. If you want to believe it, fine, but not every one suffers from your delusions. >I'm looking forward to it. Stop drooling. -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557 Quote
Guest Robibnikoff Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in snip> Don, > It was actually a warning. Which anyone with half a brain doesn't take seriously. The reason that I don't ever worry about > standing before the judgement seat of God is because I know that I will > have an advocate standing next to me. When I am asked if I have ever > sinned, I will say, > "Yes, but Jesus died for my sins and I accepted him as my savior while I > was still on the earth." You could to the same thing (see John 3:16) and > you never again have to worry about your judgement day. So, basically, you can do whatever you want as long as you fall back on the "Jesus died for my sins" bullshit. Nice morals you got there. And hon, I'm not worried about my "judgement day" because there's no reason to think such a thing is going to happen. You might be gullible to believe every thing you read, but I'm not. -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557 Quote
Guest Michael Gray Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 On Wed, 9 May 2007 04:43:04 -0400, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: - Refer: <5adfslF2oe569U1@mid.individual.net> > >"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >news:Jason-0805071828410001@66-52-22-110.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net... >> In article <h9r143tsbtqf7gf83d1oq0ea0ebfcscjij@4ax.com>, Don Kresch >> <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote: >> >>> In alt.atheism On Tue, 08 May 2007 12:20:57 -0700, Jason@nospam.com >>> (Jason) let us all know that: >>> >>> >In article <5abcb1F27c3irU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" >>> ><witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >>> >> news:Jason-0705072156340001@66-52-22-48.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net... >>> >> > snip >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >> So you can't pin it down within a factor of a thousand. Not exactly >>> >> >> impressive. >>> >> > >>> >> > You are correct. I admit that I cannot impress you by telling you >> how many >>> >> > years ago that God created all life forms. >>> >> >>> >> What's your evidence that this god exists and created anything? >>> > >>> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> > >>> >The best selling book in America. >>> >>> Not evidence. >>> >>> Where's your evidence that this god exists and created >>> anything? >>> >>> >>> Don >> >> You have more faith than I have if you actually believe that life can >> evolve from non-life. I saw one post indicating that even Darwin believed >> that God creating life and than that evolution took over. It takes much >> less faith to believe that God created live than to believe that life >> evolved from non-life. All people (even evolutionists) will eventually see >> the evidence when they stand before the judgement seat of God. I see the >> evidence that I need when I visit any state park or look at the stars in >> the sky. > >That's nice - Now do you actually have any evidence or are you just going to >post silly shit? No, and yes. In that order. -- Quote
Guest Budikka666 Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 On May 7, 3:23 pm, Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote: > On May 6, 8:10 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote: > > > > > On May 6, 6:04 pm, Tohu.B...@hotmail.com wrote: > > > > On May 6, 6:59 pm, Matt Silberstein > > > > <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > > On 6 May 2007 13:09:36 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Anna R., D.Min." > > > > <annarober...@yahoo.com> in > > > > > <1178482176.288791.80...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > > >Yes God in His awesome power and authority crafted the Universe. There > > > > >is the alternative to the Theory of Evolution. > > > > You mean the FAITH of Evolution? > > > Yes, there is an alternative to it, or should I say > > > something similar to it? I was thinking of Hinduism > > > I'll be happy to debate your alternative if you can support it, as > > I've repeatedly requested, with positive science. > > > But you can't, can you? You're quite plainly and simply lying, aren't > > you? > > Is there any SCIENTIFICALLY verified LIARD than the one > you believe in a worse myth of Evolution yet the role of CHRIST > was explained to him > > > > > Budikka Thanks for proving my statement that you cannot support your assinine assertions in a debate with me. 150 years of solid science from people of all nations and ALL FAITHS prove you wrong. But keep running, Fartbreaker. All you have is hot air and it stinks. Budikka Quote
Guest Budikka666 Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 On May 7, 4:42 pm, Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote: > On May 7, 4:59 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote: > > > On May 7, 3:25 pm, Fartbreaker <Fartbrea...@bigsecret.com> lied: > > [snip] > > > > Observed by who??? You are being a false witness. > > > Did you ever observed a chimp turning into a human being? > > > No, but we see you turning into a jackass every time you post > > something and turning into a chicken every time I challenge you. > > I thought it takes 3 billions days or hours for one > specy to evolve into another. The word is "specie", plural "species", Dimwit. And no, it doesn't take three billion years. This is why you're such a Fartbreaker - you're full of hot air and it stinks. You have no idea what you're talking about and you're as far from correct as you can get without inadvertently careering back towards it again. > I have been posting here for only 5 years. So does your > chicken have feet or legs? You have feet of clay, otherwise you'd find both the guts and the evidence to face me in a formal debate. But keep running Fartbreaker. The fact that you dare not formally debate me is your admission tot he world in these fora that that you're full of crap, that you have no guts, and that you have no scientific support for your rabid ravings. Thanks for playing. Next please. Budikka Quote
Guest Martin Phipps Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 On May 9, 3:20 am, J...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > In article <5abcb1F27c3i...@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" > > <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote: > > "Jason" <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message > >news:Jason-0705072156340001@66-52-22-48.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net... > > > snip > > > >> So you can't pin it down within a factor of a thousand. Not exactly > > >> impressive. > > > > You are correct. I admit that I cannot impress you by telling you how many > > > years ago that God created all life forms. > > > What's your evidence that this god exists and created anything? > > The best selling book in America. You can find a copy in millions of homes > and in almost every library in America. Some homes have as many as 5 > copies of that famous book. Reader's Digest? Martin Quote
Guest Martin Phipps Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 On May 9, 3:22 am, J...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > In article <5abc9kF2oeul...@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" > > <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote: > > "Jason" <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message > >news:Jason-0605072212020001@66-52-22-70.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net... > > > >> What is "the" species? But are you saying that you accept common > > >> descent? > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > No, they don't accept common descent. I meant that God created Adam, Eve, > > > lots of plants and lots of animals. > > > You really believe this? Oh my. > > Millions of people believe it. There are now millions of Christians in China. Amongst 1.3 billion Chinese. Martin Quote
Guest Don Kresch Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 In alt.atheism On Tue, 08 May 2007 22:32:34 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) let us all know that: >In article <a6f2435o85hbif85f2kpu3v45hh825djlp@4ax.com>, Don Kresch ><ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote: > >> In alt.atheism On Tue, 08 May 2007 20:03:25 -0700, Jason@nospam.com >> (Jason) let us all know that: >> >> >In article <rrWdnQqylcwQuNzbnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@comcast.com>, "Michelle >> >Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote: >> > >> >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >> >> news:Jason-0805071828410001@66-52-22-110.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net... >> >> > In article <h9r143tsbtqf7gf83d1oq0ea0ebfcscjij@4ax.com>, Don Kresch >> >> > <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> In alt.atheism On Tue, 08 May 2007 12:20:57 -0700, Jason@nospam.com >> >> >> (Jason) let us all know that: >> >> >> >> >> >> >In article <5abcb1F27c3irU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" >> >> >> ><witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> news:Jason-0705072156340001@66-52-22-48.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net... >> >> >> >> > snip >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> So you can't pin it down within a factor of a thousand. Not >exactly >> >> >> >> >> impressive. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > You are correct. I admit that I cannot impress you by telling you >> >> > how many >> >> >> >> > years ago that God created all life forms. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What's your evidence that this god exists and created anything? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> > >> >> >> >The best selling book in America. >> >> >> >> >> >> Not evidence. >> >> >> >> >> >> Where's your evidence that this god exists and created >> >> >> anything? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don >> >> > >> >> > You have more faith than I have if you actually believe that life can >> >> > evolve from non-life. I saw one post indicating that even Darwin believed >> >> > that God creating life and than that evolution took over. It takes much >> >> > less faith to believe that God created live than to believe that life >> >> > evolved from non-life. All people (even evolutionists) will >eventually see >> >> > the evidence when they stand before the judgement seat of God. I see the >> >> > evidence that I need when I visit any state park or look at the stars in >> >> > the sky. >> >> > >> >> What you see is evidence that stars exist, not how >> >> they came to exist. And, since your 'God' doesn't >> >> exist and there is no heaven hell or 'judgment seat', >> >> your threats don't scare us. >> > >> >It's not a threat. >> >> Yeah, it actually is. >> >> Don >> --- > >Don, >It was actually a warning. It's actually a threat. You worry about going to the Bad Place , and think that if you threaten us with the Bad Place , that we'll be scared little children. Trouble is: your boogeyman doesn't exist. Nor does your Man In White. It's all a myth. Oh, when asked if I sin, I say "Sin is a myth. It does not mean "doing something immoral", but rather "doing something that some religious idiot thinks is wrong, especially when it isn't immoral" Don --- aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert. "No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another" Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man" Quote
Guest ZenIsWhen Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-0805072232340001@66-52-22-6.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net... > In article <a6f2435o85hbif85f2kpu3v45hh825djlp@4ax.com>, Don Kresch > <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote: > >> In alt.atheism On Tue, 08 May 2007 20:03:25 -0700, Jason@nospam.com >> (Jason) let us all know that: >> >> >In article <rrWdnQqylcwQuNzbnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@comcast.com>, "Michelle >> >Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote: >> > >> >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >> >> news:Jason-0805071828410001@66-52-22-110.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net... >> >> > In article <h9r143tsbtqf7gf83d1oq0ea0ebfcscjij@4ax.com>, Don Kresch >> >> > <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> In alt.atheism On Tue, 08 May 2007 12:20:57 -0700, Jason@nospam.com >> >> >> (Jason) let us all know that: >> >> >> >> >> >> >In article <5abcb1F27c3irU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" >> >> >> ><witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> news:Jason-0705072156340001@66-52-22-48.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net... >> >> >> >> > snip >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> So you can't pin it down within a factor of a thousand. Not > exactly >> >> >> >> >> impressive. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > You are correct. I admit that I cannot impress you by telling >> >> >> >> > you >> >> > how many >> >> >> >> > years ago that God created all life forms. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What's your evidence that this god exists and created anything? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> > >> >> >> >The best selling book in America. >> >> >> >> >> >> Not evidence. >> >> >> >> >> >> Where's your evidence that this god exists and created >> >> >> anything? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don >> >> > >> >> > You have more faith than I have if you actually believe that life >> >> > can >> >> > evolve from non-life. I saw one post indicating that even Darwin >> >> > believed >> >> > that God creating life and than that evolution took over. It takes >> >> > much >> >> > less faith to believe that God created live than to believe that >> >> > life >> >> > evolved from non-life. All people (even evolutionists) will > eventually see >> >> > the evidence when they stand before the judgement seat of God. I see >> >> > the >> >> > evidence that I need when I visit any state park or look at the >> >> > stars in >> >> > the sky. >> >> > >> >> What you see is evidence that stars exist, not how >> >> they came to exist. And, since your 'God' doesn't >> >> exist and there is no heaven hell or 'judgment seat', >> >> your threats don't scare us. >> > >> >It's not a threat. >> >> Yeah, it actually is. >> >> Don >> --- > > Don, > It was actually a warning. The reason that I don't ever worry about > standing before the judgement seat of God is because I know that I will > have an advocate standing next to me. When I am asked if I have ever > sinned, I will say, > "Yes, but Jesus died for my sins and I accepted him as my savior while I > was still on the earth." You could to the same thing (see John 3:16) and > you never again have to worry about your judgement day. > jason and if you die and end up standing before Zeus? There is as much evidence for Zeus as there is for your or any other god. Quote
Guest Martin Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 On May 9, 9:28 am, J...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > You have more faith than I have if you actually believe that life can > evolve[d] from non-life. Nice to see that you have finally given up your faith then. It's a big step to make but nevertheless the right one. Martin Quote
Guest Martin Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 On May 9, 11:03 am, J...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > It's not a threat. The Bible clearly states that after we die, we will all > stand before the judgement seat of God. I'm looking forward to it. Unfortunately when you die everything will end and you won't even have the satisfaction of finally realizing that your faith was based on a lie. Martin Quote
Guest Martin Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 On May 9, 1:32 pm, J...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > Don, > It was actually a warning. Jason, And I'm warning you: one day you may come to realize that your religion is all complete bunk and you'll never get back the life you wasted believing in it. You only have one life, Jason, the here and now, and you don't want to waste it believing in a fairy tale. Martin Quote
Guest Martin Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 "Jason" <J...@nospam.com> wrote in > > Jesus died for my sins Actually, no, he didn't. He was cruxified for causing a public disturbance. The Romans weren't exactly known for lengthy trials. Martin Quote
Guest Tokay Pino Gris Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 Martin Phipps wrote: > > disappeared would seem to overwhelming support evolution! (Note that > different breed of dogs might as well be different species as it would > be impossible for a poodle to mate with a great dane!) > Really? Mind, I am not doubting that, I just did not know. And still don't. It seems to me that this, if in fact the case, is more question of mechanics than of genetics. But I don't know. You happen to have a link for that? (NO! I am not saying you are wrong. I am interested, thats all.) Tokay -- If you take life too seriously you won't get to laugh along with everybody else when you fail. Quote
Guest Tokay Pino Gris Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 Jason wrote: > In article <5abcb1F27c3irU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" > <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:Jason-0705072156340001@66-52-22-48.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net... >>> snip >>> >>> >>>> So you can't pin it down within a factor of a thousand. Not exactly >>>> impressive. >>> You are correct. I admit that I cannot impress you by telling you how many >>> years ago that God created all life forms. >> What's your evidence that this god exists and created anything? > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > The best selling book in America. You can find a copy in millions of homes > and in almost every library in America. Some homes have as many as 5 > copies of that famous book. I doubt that you would find a book related to > evolution in that many homes. I doubt that I would find that book in your > home. > > And this proves just what exactly? Tokay -- If you take life too seriously you won't get to laugh along with everybody else when you fail. Quote
Guest Tokay Pino Gris Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 Jason wrote: > In article <h9r143tsbtqf7gf83d1oq0ea0ebfcscjij@4ax.com>, Don Kresch > <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote: > >> In alt.atheism On Tue, 08 May 2007 12:20:57 -0700, Jason@nospam.com >> (Jason) let us all know that: >> >>> In article <5abcb1F27c3irU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" >>> <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >>>> news:Jason-0705072156340001@66-52-22-48.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net... >>>>> snip >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> So you can't pin it down within a factor of a thousand. Not exactly >>>>>> impressive. >>>>> You are correct. I admit that I cannot impress you by telling you > how many >>>>> years ago that God created all life forms. >>>> What's your evidence that this god exists and created anything? >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> The best selling book in America. >> Not evidence. >> >> Where's your evidence that this god exists and created >> anything? >> >> >> Don > > You have more faith than I have if you actually believe that life can > evolve from non-life. I saw one post indicating that even Darwin believed > that God creating life and than that evolution took over. It takes much > less faith to believe that God created live than to believe that life > evolved from non-life. All people (even evolutionists) will eventually see > the evidence when they stand before the judgement seat of God. I see the > evidence that I need when I visit any state park or look at the stars in > the sky. > > Wrong on the account that Darwin's theory actually has anything to do with "nonlife" to "life". Sorry. Just not in there. Wrong on the account of Darwins quote. But then, what else is new? Tokay -- If you take life too seriously you won't get to laugh along with everybody else when you fail. Quote
Guest Tokay Pino Gris Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 Jason wrote: > In article <1178579730.476280.280860@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, Martin > Phipps <martinphipps2@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On May 8, 4:11 am, J...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >>> In article <1178510378.669243.168...@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Martin >>> >>> Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> On May 7, 9:35 am, J...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >>>>> It appears to me that many evolutionists have FAITH that life >>>>> evolved from non-life. It must be because of faith because there is no >>>>> evidence that life can evolve from non-life. I do not believe that life >>>>> can evolve from non-life. >>>> A virus is alive. Bacteria is alive. Animals are alive. Who, >>>> besides creationists, says life evolved from non-life? Don't forget >>>> that the Bible says that man was created from dust. No scientist >>>> believes that crap. >>>>> I believe that God created the earth and created >>>>> Adam, Eve, lots of animals and lots of plants. >>>> That is a matter of faith. It must be because of faith because there >>>> is no evidence that your god ever existed. >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> We have fossil evidence >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> I'm sorry but you're lying. >> >> No physical evidence can prove the existance of a supernatural being. >> If you find something in nature then it came to be naturally and not >> through the intervention of a mythological creature. >> >> Martin > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Martin, > Sorry--I should have been more clear. The fossil evidence that I was > referring to are fossils of plants and animals. You can learn more about > those fossils by visiting the icr.org or it might be icr.com and ordering > a book entitled: > "Evolution: The Fossils Say No". > > Actually, the fossil record shows that it is consistent with evolution. Hey, the only thing one can say to "there are no transitional forms" is "What? Where have you been? TONS of it." Sorry, but sorry, no. Wrong. Plain and simple. Intermediate forms are there, if you like that or not. Tokay -- If you take life too seriously you won't get to laugh along with everybody else when you fail. Quote
Guest Tokay Pino Gris Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 Anna R., D.Min. wrote: > Yes God in His awesome power and authority crafted the Universe. There > is the alternative to the Theory of Evolution. > Oh, boy, this gets boring. Ok, if you are correct, then prove it. Scientifically, show evidence of it. And "It looks like" is NEVER evidence. You want play in the field of science, play by the rules. Otherwise it is not science. Tokay -- If you take life too seriously you won't get to laugh along with everybody else when you fail. Quote
Guest neo Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 Martin wrote: > On May 9, 1:32 pm, J...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > > Don, > > It was actually a warning. > > Jason, > And I'm warning you: one day you may come to realize that your > religion is all complete bunk and you'll never get back the life you > wasted believing in it. I was 19 (in fact 18 years 7 months) when books on world history, bigbang changed my views. I was never religious after that. I think age of 19 was not too late. Quote
Guest Michael Gray Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 On 9 May 2007 05:25:29 -0700, Martin <phippsmartin@hotmail.com> wrote: - Refer: <1178713529.569984.90160@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> >"Jason" <J...@nospam.com> wrote in >> >> Jesus died for my sins > >Actually, no, he didn't. He was cruxified for causing a public >disturbance. The Romans weren't exactly known for lengthy trials. Jesus is a fictional character. -- Quote
Guest Mike Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 Jason wrote: > You may want to visit the Institute for Creation Research website--It > might be icr.com or icr.org > > It would take thousands of words and lots of time to tell you their point > of view about how life came to be on this planet. That's the reason you > should visit that site. And their point has diddly in the way of evidence for it. > About 30 years ago, a man named Eric Von Danikan (spelling??) wrote a best > selling book about his theory. I read that book. His theory is that > millions of years ago, astronauts from another planet came here in dozens > of huge space ships. They bought with them thousands of plants and > animals. They also left behind about a hundred (or more) people from that > planet--various races. He had lots evidence such as the pyramids in Egypt, > cave drawings of space ships and Stone Henge. The name of that book was > "In Search of Ancient Astranauts" > > Both of the theories mentioned above make more sense than a belief that > life came to be from a primordial soup or a primordial pond. So where did these "ancient astranauts[sic]" come from? I.e. if they're the cause for life here on earth and that makes "more sense than a belief that life came to be from a primordial soup or a primordial pond." then all you've done is moved things back a step. Did life on THAT planet come from a primordial soup? You can > google those terms. I once asked an evolutionist how the primordial pond > came to be and he did not know. I asked him how the first living cell came > to be and he did not know. So that means "goddidit"? <snip more garbage> Quote
Guest Tokay Pino Gris Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 Jason wrote: > > You may want to visit the Institute for Creation Research website--It > might be icr.com or icr.org > > It would take thousands of words and lots of time to tell you their point > of view about how life came to be on this planet. That's the reason you > should visit that site. Oh, I can sum it up in one word.... "magicmandidit" And that's it. Evidence? None. Tokay -- If you take life too seriously you won't get to laugh along with everybody else when you fail. Quote
Guest Matt Silberstein Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 On Wed, 09 May 2007 11:33:20 -0700, in alt.atheism , Jason@nospam.com (Jason) in <Jason-0905071133210001@66-52-22-51.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net> wrote: [snip] >Prove that life can evolve from non-life and I will become an advocate of >evolution. One poster claimed that life could evolve from amino acids. >I challenge anyone to create amino acids from nothing. Even Darwin >believed that God got the process going by creating life. Not from nothing, but amino acids do spontaneously form under the conditions of the early Earth. This was demonstrated decades ago. Care to move those goalposts? -- Matt Silberstein Do something today about the Darfur Genocide http://www.beawitness.org http://www.darfurgenocide.org http://www.savedarfur.org "Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop" Quote
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