Guest Frank Mayhar Posted October 3, 2007 Posted October 3, 2007 On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:57:36 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote: > "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:Jason-0210071538400001@67-150-121-237.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >> In article <7HyMi.37$lE2.16@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>, 655321 >> <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: >> >>> Jason wrote: >>> > In article <fdtn9v$cgp$3@news04.infoave.net>, Mike >>> > <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Jason wrote: >>> >>> I consider homosexual sex to be immoral. >>> >> Why? What harm does it cause to ANYONE? >>> > >>> > In some cases--it could cause an HIV infection. >>> >>> Wrong. >>> >>> Homosexual sex can never cause such an infection. >>> >>> Sex with a person, male or female, who is infected -- the bare >>> minimum requirement -- can cause transmission of the infection to an >>> uninfected person. And even then the transmission may not occur. >>> >>> Get your facts, ahem, straight. >> >> True or false: >> If a man never had homosexual sex--he would be less like to have HIV > > Um, Jason. Aren't you aware that you can get HIV through heterosexual > sex? And in fact the overwhelming majority of cases in Africa are due to just that. -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/ Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/ http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/ http://www.zazzle.com/fmayhar Quote
Guest Robibnikoff Posted October 3, 2007 Posted October 3, 2007 "Mike" <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote in message news:fe0c9k$7uo$1@news04.infoave.net... > Robibnikoff wrote: >> "James Beck" <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote in message >> news:MPG.216c5f58252bb6c098a1df@newsgroups.bellsouth.net... >>> In article <Jason-0210071104580001@66-53-210-54.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >>> Jason@nospam.com says... >>>> In article <5mfahlFd8dqaU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" >>>> <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: >> >> snip >>>>> Eating deep-fried food is bad for you - But does that make it immoral? >>>> No--eating food is not immoral. >>>> >>> That's not what he said. >>> Read it again. >>> "Eating deep-fried food is bad for you - But does that make it immoral?" >> >> Ahem, "he"? > > Yer one of the prettiest "he" witchipoos I've seen in a long time <Giggle!> -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557 Quote
Guest 655321 Posted October 3, 2007 Posted October 3, 2007 Charles & Mambo Duckman wrote: > Jason wrote: > > >> There is a famous highway in Germany called the Autobabn (spelling). > > > Jesus Christ, Jason, get a clue. Autobahn means highway in German. Jason must have "learned" at an early age that ignorance is to be celebrated, that learning is to be suspected, and that facts are to be misunderstood. -- 655321 Quote
Guest Tokay Pino Gris Posted October 3, 2007 Posted October 3, 2007 Jason wrote: > In article <fdtkmg$a96$1@news04.infoave.net>, Mike > <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: > >> Jason wrote: >>> In article <fdo6gv$puj$1@news04.infoave.net>, Mike >>> <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Jason wrote: >>>>> In article <fdlmpq$r2v$1@news04.infoave.net>, Mike >>>>> <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jason wrote: >>>>>>> If you or anyone else in this newsgroup wants to become addicted to >>>>>>> heroin--just do it. I request that you do it in private and not > encourage >>>>>>> any children to become addicts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As far as I am concerned, I will never become addicted to any >>> illegal drug. >>>>>> Jason, do you HONESTLY not understand the difference between "using >>>>>> substance X" and "addicted to substance X"? >>>>>> >>>>>> The question was: How is the USE of heroin immoral? Not "how is being >>>>>> addicted to heroin immoral?" >>>>> It's immoral because heroin not only causes serious negative side >>>>> effects-- >>>> How does a side effect of something cause it to be immoral? Driving a >>>> car can have "serious negative side effects" if you wreck. Is driving >>>> "immoral?" >>>> >>>>> including serious long term side effects >>>> Name a single "serious long term side effect" that can come from a >>>> single use of heroin. You said that just the "use of heroin is immoral" >>>> and not "the long term, repeated use of heroin" or "addiction to heroin." >>>> >>>> but also harms society >>>>> since the gov't has to provide free services to care for the many heroin >>>>> addicts since most of them do not have full time jobs. >>>> Jason, quit being an idiot. No-one said a damned thing about "addicts." >>>> We are talking about the use of a drug, plain and simple. Being addicted >>>> to a drug and simply using the drug are NOT the same thing. >>> That's true but you are intelligent enought to know that the casual use of >>> cocaine and heroin can lead to an addiction. >> You, on the other hand, aren't intelligent enough to understand the >> difference between "doing X" and "doing Y" or intelligent enough to be >> able to explain what makes the USE (NOT the addiction to but simply the >> USE) of heroin immoral. >> >> And don't give me that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" crap >> again. Yes, morals, as well as beauty, are dependent upon the person. >> However, I can tell you "well, I find her beautiful because of her blond >> hair, her blue eyes, her delicate features, etc" even if you don't agree >> that such would make a person beautiful (maybe you find blond hair >> ugly.) Saying what I find beautiful in a person doesn't mean you'd have >> to agree with it but at least I can tell you what it is. Now tell us >> what it is that you think makes the simple USE of heroin immoral. And if >> you don't apply such in a consistent manner (such as the part about "it >> has side effects" when you don't apply that same to driving a car) then >> expect to be called onto the carpet about it. > > It's generally a case by case basis. In relation to illegal drugs--it's > mainly because most illegal drugs cause some very serious long term side > effects. For example, the long term use of marijuana can in some cases can > cause lung cancer and bladder cancer. > > Are you dumb? Tokay -- "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein Quote
Guest Tokay Pino Gris Posted October 3, 2007 Posted October 3, 2007 Jason wrote: > In article <fdtlkd$b1i$1@news04.infoave.net>, Mike > <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: > >> Jason wrote: >>> In article <fdo6rv$puj$3@news04.infoave.net>, Mike >>> <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Jason wrote: >>>>> In article <fdln5r$rjv$1@news04.infoave.net>, Mike >>>>> <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> 655321 wrote: >>>>>>> In article >>>>>>> <Jason-2709071412250001@67-150-171-41.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >>>>>>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/morality-definition/ >>>>>>> You think that I'm going to read that lengthy bit of cut-and-paste to >>>>>>> see if anything relevant is in it? Let's try this again: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was trying to find out if you was amoral? >>>>>>> Me: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You have shown, time and time again, that you are unable to "find out" >>>>>>>> anything with any reliability. "Facts" and ideas kinda stick to you, >>>>>>>> but they aren't necessarily the right ones. >>>>>>> Now, what were you saying? >>>>>>> >>>>>> The one definition from that article that applies here is: >>>>>> >>>>>> The term Quote
Guest Tokay Pino Gris Posted October 3, 2007 Posted October 3, 2007 Jason wrote: > In article <5mcfj6Fcgs1tU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" > <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:Jason-3009071532270001@66-53-216-219.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >>> In article <fdo87t$rm6$1@news04.infoave.net>, Mike >>> <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Jason wrote: >>>>> In article <ad3uf3hqh0pst0ivu392pt0qo04h67jihd@4ax.com>, Al Klein >>>>> <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:34:46 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> How does marijuana cause bladder cancer? Is it the tar? >>>>>> Nothing in the tar would cause bladder cancer. It goes from the lungs >>>>>> to the kidneys. >>>>> Why did the report that was published in a medical journal indicate >>>>> that >>>>> the long term use of marijuana could cause bladder cancer? >>>>> >>>>> Google "Marijuana bladder cancer" >>>> http://www.mdanderson.org/diseases/bladder/ >>>> >>>> "Smoking is the greatest risk factor for bladder cancer" >>>> >>>> I.e. there's some substance(s) in the smoke (from either tobacco or pot) >>>> that causes cancer. Just about ANY side effect of smoking (from a >>>> chronic cough to various cancers) can be caused by either. So why are >>>> you so hard on pot smoking and not walking around railing on folks for >>>> smoking tobacco? >>> I'm not a moral cop. >> Jeeze, you sure act like it. > > It would be a full time job since I live in a college town. There are > probably lots of pot smokers in the dorms at the local state college. The > cops would probably arrest me if they saw me walking in various dorm rooms > of beautiful young girls to see if they were smoking pot. I am glad that I > am not a moral cop since I would not want to spend the night in jail. > jason > > Ah! Now we are talking real stuff! You would like to do it but don't because of fear! You don't question the dogma, you wish you could follow it through but cower in fear because it might get you in jail. You are pathetic. Really, you are. You are a tiny pants-pisser that wants his believes pressed onto all others but doesn't have the guts to do it himself. Tell the truth: You think it is immoral and should be punished. Why? Because your book says so (and, funnily enough, it doesn't). Get off my back. Tokay -- "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 In article <iwUMi.107$LD2.45@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>, 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > Charles & Mambo Duckman wrote: > > Jason wrote: > > > > > >> There is a famous highway in Germany called the Autobabn (spelling). > > > > > > Jesus Christ, Jason, get a clue. Autobahn means highway in German. > > Jason must have "learned" at an early age that ignorance is to be > celebrated, that learning is to be suspected, and that facts are to be > misunderstood. > > -- > 655321 You may speak German but you should not expect everyone else in the world to speak German. Quote
Guest Charles & Mambo Duckman Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 655321 wrote: >>> There is a famous highway in Germany called the Autobabn (spelling). >> >> >> >> Jesus Christ, Jason, get a clue. Autobahn means highway in German. > > > Jason must have "learned" at an early age that ignorance is to be > celebrated, that learning is to be suspected, and that facts are to be > misunderstood. I still think he's fucking with us. -- Come down off the cross We can use the wood Tom Waits, Come On Up To The House Quote
Guest 655321 Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 In article <Jason-0310071726530001@67-150-172-92.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > In article <iwUMi.107$LD2.45@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>, 655321 > <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > > > Charles & Mambo Duckman wrote: > > > Jason wrote: > > > > > > > > >> There is a famous highway in Germany called the Autobabn (spelling). > > > > > > > > > Jesus Christ, Jason, get a clue. Autobahn means highway in German. > > > > Jason must have "learned" at an early age that ignorance is to be > > celebrated, that learning is to be suspected, and that facts are to be > > misunderstood. > > You may speak German but you should not expect everyone else in the world > to speak German. One need not know how to speak German to know what "Autobahn" means. A basic education should have led to knowledge of such a thing. -- 655321 "We are heroes in error" -- Ahmad Chalabi Quote
Guest 655321 Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 In article <pan.2007.10.03.16.03.49@exit.com>, Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com> wrote: > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:57:36 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote: > > > "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message > > news:Jason-0210071538400001@67-150-121-237.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > >> In article <7HyMi.37$lE2.16@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>, 655321 > >> <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > >> > >>> Jason wrote: > >>> > In article <fdtn9v$cgp$3@news04.infoave.net>, Mike > >>> > <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> Jason wrote: > >>> >>> I consider homosexual sex to be immoral. > >>> >> Why? What harm does it cause to ANYONE? > >>> > > >>> > In some cases--it could cause an HIV infection. > >>> > >>> Wrong. > >>> > >>> Homosexual sex can never cause such an infection. > >>> > >>> Sex with a person, male or female, who is infected -- the bare > >>> minimum requirement -- can cause transmission of the infection to an > >>> uninfected person. And even then the transmission may not occur. > >>> > >>> Get your facts, ahem, straight. > >> > >> True or false: > >> If a man never had homosexual sex--he would be less like to have HIV > > > > Um, Jason. Aren't you aware that you can get HIV through heterosexual > > sex? > > And in fact the overwhelming majority of cases in Africa are due to just > that. I think he's dropped this topic, so he won't admit to being wrong. -- 655321 "We are heroes in error" -- Ahmad Chalabi Quote
Guest 655321 Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 In article <fe05pe$jf$1@news04.infoave.net>, Mike <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: > Jason wrote: > > In article > > <DipthotDipthot-7D558A.18380802102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, > > 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > >> By the way, have you taken a look at those "Ten Commandments" yet? Have > >> you noticed yet how LITTLE they have to do with U.S. law? > >> > >> It sounds like your TeeVee evangelists have been lying to you about a > >> great deal. > > > > All states have laws against 1st degree murder. Are you saying the first > > laws in America related to 1st degree murder were not because of the > > commandment? > > Yes. Laws against murder existed LONG before the 10 demandments. > > 1: I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. > > Nope, no laws against that. > > 2: Thou shalt not make for thyself an idol. > > Nope, no laws against that. > > 3: Thou shalt not make wrongful use of the name of thy God. > > Nope, no laws against that. > > 4: Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy. > > Nope, no laws (generally) against that. > > 5: Honor thy Father and Mother. > > Nope, no laws against that. > > 6: Thou shalt not murder. > > Laws against that predate the demandments. > > 7: Thou shalt not commit adultery. > > Not too many laws still around against that. > > 8: Thou shalt not steal > > Laws against that predate the demantments. > > 9: Thou shalt not bear false witness. > > Laws against that predate the demandments. > > 10: Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house. Thou shalt not covet thy > neighbor's wife. > > Nope, no laws against that. > > So out of the 10 demandments, only three of them are even included in > todays laws, generally, and those three weren't derived from the > demandments but were around LONG before. It appears that he's dropped this topic. Typical Jason behavior. Run away when obviously flat wrong; keep hammering away at a topic when a semantic gray area is perceived. (Key word: "perceived") -- 655321 "We are heroes in error" -- Ahmad Chalabi Quote
Guest hhyapster@gmail.com Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 On Oct 4, 9:56 am, 655321 <DipthotDipt...@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > In article > <Jason-0310071726530...@67-150-172-92.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > In article <iwUMi.107$LD2...@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>, 655321 > > <DipthotDipt...@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > > > > Charles & Mambo Duckman wrote: > > > > Jason wrote: > > > > >> There is a famous highway in Germany called the Autobabn (spelling). > > > > > Jesus Christ, Jason, get a clue. Autobahn means highway in German. > > > > Jason must have "learned" at an early age that ignorance is to be > > > celebrated, that learning is to be suspected, and that facts are to be > > > misunderstood. > > > You may speak German but you should not expect everyone else in the world > > to speak German. > > One need not know how to speak German to know what "Autobahn" means. A > basic education should have led to knowledge of such a thing. > > -- > 655321 > "We are heroes in error" -- Ahmad Chalabi You can't communicate sensibly with this naive bigotry old man who only has a reasoning power of a 1st grader. Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 In article <DipthotDipthot-D8BB82.18565503102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > In article > <Jason-0310071726530001@67-150-172-92.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > > In article <iwUMi.107$LD2.45@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>, 655321 > > <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > > > > > Charles & Mambo Duckman wrote: > > > > Jason wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> There is a famous highway in Germany called the Autobabn (spelling). > > > > > > > > > > > > Jesus Christ, Jason, get a clue. Autobahn means highway in German. > > > > > > Jason must have "learned" at an early age that ignorance is to be > > > celebrated, that learning is to be suspected, and that facts are to be > > > misunderstood. > > > > You may speak German but you should not expect everyone else in the world > > to speak German. > > One need not know how to speak German to know what "Autobahn" means. A > basic education should have led to knowledge of such a thing. I saw a poll indicating that only about 30% of Americans could identify their state on a map of America. I doubt that even 20% of Americans know that Autobahn means highway in German. I only knew about the Autobahn since I read car magazines suchs as "Motor Trend". Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 In article <DipthotDipthot-8C1964.18575703102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > In article <pan.2007.10.03.16.03.49@exit.com>, > Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:57:36 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote: > > > > > "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message > > > news:Jason-0210071538400001@67-150-121-237.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > > >> In article <7HyMi.37$lE2.16@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>, 655321 > > >> <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Jason wrote: > > >>> > In article <fdtn9v$cgp$3@news04.infoave.net>, Mike > > >>> > <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> >> Jason wrote: > > >>> >>> I consider homosexual sex to be immoral. > > >>> >> Why? What harm does it cause to ANYONE? > > >>> > > > >>> > In some cases--it could cause an HIV infection. > > >>> > > >>> Wrong. > > >>> > > >>> Homosexual sex can never cause such an infection. > > >>> > > >>> Sex with a person, male or female, who is infected -- the bare > > >>> minimum requirement -- can cause transmission of the infection to an > > >>> uninfected person. And even then the transmission may not occur. > > >>> > > >>> Get your facts, ahem, straight. > > >> > > >> True or false: > > >> If a man never had homosexual sex--he would be less like to have HIV > > > > > > Um, Jason. Aren't you aware that you can get HIV through heterosexual > > > sex? > > > > And in fact the overwhelming majority of cases in Africa are due to just > > that. > > I think he's dropped this topic, so he won't admit to being wrong. Yes, I knew that it was possible that you can get HIV through heterosexual sex. It's my understanding that it's more likely for homosexuals to get HIV (than heterosexuals) since it usually involves anal sex. Most heterosexuals do not have anal sex. Quote
Guest SeppoP Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 Jason wrote: > In article > <DipthotDipthot-D8BB82.18565503102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, > 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > >> In article >> <Jason-0310071726530001@67-150-172-92.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >>> In article <iwUMi.107$LD2.45@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>, 655321 >>> <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: >>> >>>> Charles & Mambo Duckman wrote: >>>>> Jason wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> There is a famous highway in Germany called the Autobabn (spelling). >>>>> >>>>> Jesus Christ, Jason, get a clue. Autobahn means highway in German. >>>> Jason must have "learned" at an early age that ignorance is to be >>>> celebrated, that learning is to be suspected, and that facts are to be >>>> misunderstood. >>> You may speak German but you should not expect everyone else in the world >>> to speak German. >> One need not know how to speak German to know what "Autobahn" means. A >> basic education should have led to knowledge of such a thing. > > I saw a poll indicating that only about 30% of Americans could identify > their state on a map of America. I doubt that even 20% of Americans know > that Autobahn means highway in German. I only knew about the Autobahn > since I read car magazines suchs as "Motor Trend". > > And what proportion of the remaining 70% are religious freaks compared to the 30%? -- Seppo P. What's wrong with Theocracy? (a Finnish Taliban, Oct 1, 2005) Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:25:18 +0200, Tokay Pino Gris <tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net> wrote: >Tell the truth: You think it is immoral and should be punished. Why? >Because your book says so (and, funnily enough, it doesn't). Most of Christianity's rules aren't in the Bible, and most Christians don't know the Bible, so Jason isn't unusual, he's just pathetic. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "They laughed at Newton, they laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at Bozo the Clown." - Carl Sagan Quote
Guest Frank Mayhar Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:57:57 -0700, 655321 wrote: > In article <pan.2007.10.03.16.03.49@exit.com>, > Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:57:36 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote: >> >> > "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >> > news:Jason-0210071538400001@67-150-121-237.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >> >> In article <7HyMi.37$lE2.16@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>, 655321 >> >> <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Jason wrote: >> >>> > In article <fdtn9v$cgp$3@news04.infoave.net>, Mike >> >>> > <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> >> Jason wrote: >> >>> >>> I consider homosexual sex to be immoral. >> >>> >> Why? What harm does it cause to ANYONE? >> >>> > >> >>> > In some cases--it could cause an HIV infection. >> >>> >> >>> Wrong. >> >>> >> >>> Homosexual sex can never cause such an infection. >> >>> >> >>> Sex with a person, male or female, who is infected -- the bare >> >>> minimum requirement -- can cause transmission of the infection to >> >>> an uninfected person. And even then the transmission may not >> >>> occur. >> >>> >> >>> Get your facts, ahem, straight. >> >> >> >> True or false: >> >> If a man never had homosexual sex--he would be less like to have HIV >> > >> > Um, Jason. Aren't you aware that you can get HIV through heterosexual >> > sex? >> >> And in fact the overwhelming majority of cases in Africa are due to >> just that. > > I think he's dropped this topic, so he won't admit to being wrong. Yeah, what a fucking surprise. Not only is he an ignorant idiot, he's a hypocrite as well. -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/ Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/ http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/ http://www.zazzle.com/fmayhar Quote
Guest James Beck Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 In article <Jason-0310072117250001@67-150-122-221.lsan.mdsg- pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... > In article > <DipthotDipthot-8C1964.18575703102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, > 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > > > In article <pan.2007.10.03.16.03.49@exit.com>, > > Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:57:36 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote: > > > > > > > "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message > > > > news:Jason-0210071538400001@67-150-121-237.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > > > >> In article <7HyMi.37$lE2.16@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>, 655321 > > > >> <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Jason wrote: > > > >>> > In article <fdtn9v$cgp$3@news04.infoave.net>, Mike > > > >>> > <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: > > > >>> > > > > >>> >> Jason wrote: > > > >>> >>> I consider homosexual sex to be immoral. > > > >>> >> Why? What harm does it cause to ANYONE? > > > >>> > > > > >>> > In some cases--it could cause an HIV infection. > > > >>> > > > >>> Wrong. > > > >>> > > > >>> Homosexual sex can never cause such an infection. > > > >>> > > > >>> Sex with a person, male or female, who is infected -- the bare > > > >>> minimum requirement -- can cause transmission of the infection to an > > > >>> uninfected person. And even then the transmission may not occur. > > > >>> > > > >>> Get your facts, ahem, straight. > > > >> > > > >> True or false: > > > >> If a man never had homosexual sex--he would be less like to have HIV > > > > > > > > Um, Jason. Aren't you aware that you can get HIV through heterosexual > > > > sex? > > > > > > And in fact the overwhelming majority of cases in Africa are due to just > > > that. > > > > I think he's dropped this topic, so he won't admit to being wrong. > > Yes, I knew that it was possible that you can get HIV through heterosexual > sex. It's my understanding that it's more likely for homosexuals to get > HIV (than heterosexuals) since it usually involves anal sex. Most > heterosexuals do not have anal sex. > How do those lesbians give each other HIV through anal sex? You do know what homosexual means, right? (man/man AND woman/woman) Also, there are a lot of straight couples that engage in anal sex. From : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17285757/ Statistics bear this out. According to results of a federal study released two years ago, 40 percent of men and 35 percent of women surveyed in 2002 said they have had anal sex with an opposite-sex partner. An earlier study published in 1994 showed that among heterosexuals, 26 percent of men and 20 percent of women had ever engaged in anal sex. And if anecdotes by experts are to be believed, the numbers have boomed in the last few years. Looks like you prudes are going to be in the minority soon. Jim Quote
Guest 655321 Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 In article <Jason-0310072117250001@67-150-122-221.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > Yes, I knew that it was possible that you can get HIV through heterosexual > sex. It's my understanding that it's more likely for homosexuals to get > HIV (than heterosexuals) since it usually involves anal sex. Oh, you ignorant fool. > Most heterosexuals do not have anal sex. Oh, you ignorant fool. -- 655321 "We are heroes in error" -- Ahmad Chalabi Quote
Guest 655321 Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 In article <MPG.216ed74ea53378d998a1e4@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > How do those lesbians give each other HIV through anal sex? > You do know what homosexual means, right? (man/man AND woman/woman) > Also, there are a lot of straight couples that engage in anal sex. It appears talking about sex with Jason is like talking to a kitten about communism. -- 655321 "We are heroes in error" -- Ahmad Chalabi Quote
Guest 655321 Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 In article <54n9g39gk2tplrtk8f387s4bnbl4gvbbqo@4ax.com>, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > Most of Christianity's rules aren't in the Bible, and most Christians > don't know the Bible, so Jason isn't unusual, he's just pathetic. That could be the capper on this thread. -- 655321 "We are heroes in error" -- Ahmad Chalabi Quote
Guest James Beck Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 In article <DipthotDipthot-CC9A86.09313304102007 @newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>, DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com says... > In article <MPG.216ed74ea53378d998a1e4@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, > James Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > > > How do those lesbians give each other HIV through anal sex? > > You do know what homosexual means, right? (man/man AND woman/woman) > > Also, there are a lot of straight couples that engage in anal sex. > > It appears talking about sex with Jason is like talking to a kitten > about communism. > > You think it's tough to perform when the dog is staring at you, just think about the pressure of having GOD rating the performance! He'd be like, "Man I did Mary six ways from Sunday and you turn out to be some two pump chump." The pressure......... Jim Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 In article <MPG.216ed74ea53378d998a1e4@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > In article <Jason-0310072117250001@67-150-122-221.lsan.mdsg- > pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... > > In article > > <DipthotDipthot-8C1964.18575703102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, > > 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > > > > > In article <pan.2007.10.03.16.03.49@exit.com>, > > > Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:57:36 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote: > > > > > > > > > "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:Jason-0210071538400001@67-150-121-237.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > > > > >> In article <7HyMi.37$lE2.16@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>, 655321 > > > > >> <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Jason wrote: > > > > >>> > In article <fdtn9v$cgp$3@news04.infoave.net>, Mike > > > > >>> > <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> >> Jason wrote: > > > > >>> >>> I consider homosexual sex to be immoral. > > > > >>> >> Why? What harm does it cause to ANYONE? > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > In some cases--it could cause an HIV infection. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Wrong. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Homosexual sex can never cause such an infection. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sex with a person, male or female, who is infected -- the bare > > > > >>> minimum requirement -- can cause transmission of the infection to an > > > > >>> uninfected person. And even then the transmission may not occur. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Get your facts, ahem, straight. > > > > >> > > > > >> True or false: > > > > >> If a man never had homosexual sex--he would be less like to have HIV > > > > > > > > > > Um, Jason. Aren't you aware that you can get HIV through heterosexual > > > > > sex? > > > > > > > > And in fact the overwhelming majority of cases in Africa are due to just > > > > that. > > > > > > I think he's dropped this topic, so he won't admit to being wrong. > > > > Yes, I knew that it was possible that you can get HIV through heterosexual > > sex. It's my understanding that it's more likely for homosexuals to get > > HIV (than heterosexuals) since it usually involves anal sex. Most > > heterosexuals do not have anal sex. > > > > How do those lesbians give each other HIV through anal sex? > You do know what homosexual means, right? (man/man AND woman/woman) > Also, there are a lot of straight couples that engage in anal sex. > > From : > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17285757/ > Statistics bear this out. According to results of a federal study > released two years ago, 40 percent of men and 35 percent of women > surveyed in 2002 said they have had anal sex with an opposite-sex > partner. An earlier study published in 1994 showed that among > heterosexuals, 26 percent of men and 20 percent of women had ever > engaged in anal sex. And if anecdotes by experts are to be believed, the > numbers have boomed in the last few years. > > Looks like you prudes are going to be in the minority soon. > > Jim If a man had HIV and had anal sex with a man or a woman, that man or woman could could end up with HIV. On the other hand, if a man that had HIV had normal sex with a woman, it's not likely that the woman would end up with HIV. Yes, I know that it could happen. Jason Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 In article <DipthotDipthot-CC9A86.09313304102007@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>, 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > In article <MPG.216ed74ea53378d998a1e4@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, > James Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > > > How do those lesbians give each other HIV through anal sex? > > You do know what homosexual means, right? (man/man AND woman/woman) > > Also, there are a lot of straight couples that engage in anal sex. > > It appears talking about sex with Jason is like talking to a kitten > about communism. Lesbians could give each other HIV if blood is spread from one person to the other person. A man could spread HIV to a woman if he had anal sex with a woman. It's less likely that the man would spread HIV to a woman if he had normal sex with a woman. HIV is caused when blood is spread from one person to another person. I heard about a nurse that developed HIV as a result of sticking herself with a needle that she had used on a patient that had HIV. They have developed needles that prevent that from happening. Quote
Guest James Beck Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 In article <Jason-0410071451140001@67-150-122-66.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... > In article <MPG.216ed74ea53378d998a1e4@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James > Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > > > In article <Jason-0310072117250001@67-150-122-221.lsan.mdsg- > > pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... > > > In article > > > <DipthotDipthot-8C1964.18575703102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, > > > 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > > > > > > > In article <pan.2007.10.03.16.03.49@exit.com>, > > > > Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:57:36 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:Jason-0210071538400001@67-150-121-237.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > > > > > >> In article <7HyMi.37$lE2.16@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>, 655321 > > > > > >> <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> Jason wrote: > > > > > >>> > In article <fdtn9v$cgp$3@news04.infoave.net>, Mike > > > > > >>> > <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> >> Jason wrote: > > > > > >>> >>> I consider homosexual sex to be immoral. > > > > > >>> >> Why? What harm does it cause to ANYONE? > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > In some cases--it could cause an HIV infection. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Wrong. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Homosexual sex can never cause such an infection. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Sex with a person, male or female, who is infected -- the bare > > > > > >>> minimum requirement -- can cause transmission of the > infection to an > > > > > >>> uninfected person. And even then the transmission may not occur. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Get your facts, ahem, straight. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> True or false: > > > > > >> If a man never had homosexual sex--he would be less like to have HIV > > > > > > > > > > > > Um, Jason. Aren't you aware that you can get HIV through heterosexual > > > > > > sex? > > > > > > > > > > And in fact the overwhelming majority of cases in Africa are due > to just > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > I think he's dropped this topic, so he won't admit to being wrong. > > > > > > Yes, I knew that it was possible that you can get HIV through heterosexual > > > sex. It's my understanding that it's more likely for homosexuals to get > > > HIV (than heterosexuals) since it usually involves anal sex. Most > > > heterosexuals do not have anal sex. > > > > > > > How do those lesbians give each other HIV through anal sex? > > You do know what homosexual means, right? (man/man AND woman/woman) > > Also, there are a lot of straight couples that engage in anal sex. > > > > From : > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17285757/ > > Statistics bear this out. According to results of a federal study > > released two years ago, 40 percent of men and 35 percent of women > > surveyed in 2002 said they have had anal sex with an opposite-sex > > partner. An earlier study published in 1994 showed that among > > heterosexuals, 26 percent of men and 20 percent of women had ever > > engaged in anal sex. And if anecdotes by experts are to be believed, the > > numbers have boomed in the last few years. > > > > Looks like you prudes are going to be in the minority soon. > > > > Jim > > If a man had HIV and had anal sex with a man or a woman, that man or woman > could could end up with HIV. On the other hand, if a man that had HIV had > normal sex with a woman, it's not likely that the woman would end up with > HIV. Yes, I know that it could happen. > Jason > So, how do you explain the HIV rates in Africa? Kind of disproves your "not likely" assertion. Where did you get your information from? The same place you got "Most heterosexuals do not have anal sex" from? Jim Quote
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