Guest stoney Posted October 7, 2007 Posted October 7, 2007 On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:35:11 -0400, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > >"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >news:Jason-2609072152120001@67-150-170-0.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >> In article >> <DipthotDipthot-04A050.19382826092007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, >> 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: >> >>> In article >>> <Jason-2509072054150001@67-150-177-85.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >>> >>> > In article >>> > <DipthotDipthot-3E4F6A.19050625092007@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>, >>> > 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: >>> > >>> > > In article >>> > > <Jason-2409072139140001@67-150-178-247.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >>> > > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > Do you believe that the use of heroin is immoral? >>> > > >>> > > No. >>> > >>> > Do you believe that first degree murder is immoral? >>> >>> Yes. >>> >>> Your point? >> >> I was trying to find out if you was amoral? > >You don't know if that's what you were trying to find out? That's what he said. Quote
Guest stoney Posted October 7, 2007 Posted October 7, 2007 On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:02:27 -0400, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > >"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in > >snip >> >> I consider the use of heroin by healthy people to be immoral because it >> not only does great harm to the person that is addicted to heroin but it >> harms society. > >If no one knows about it, how is it immoral? 'God' [jason] said so. Quote
Guest stoney Posted October 7, 2007 Posted October 7, 2007 On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:40:57 -0400, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > >"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message >news:ft3uf3ts5l7suhd7v1d07hcqh50k9q4t0j@4ax.com... >> On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 11:59:55 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >>>I now know how to keep from being noticed by police officers while driving >>>on the freeway. >> >> One really great way is to not violate any laws. > >That's always worked for me. I've been driving for 29 years and have never >gotten a speeding ticket. My last speeding ticket was in '79 or '80. Quote
Guest stoney Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:56:32 -0400, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > >"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >news:Jason-0210071425470001@67-150-121-237.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >> In article <fdu48u$pm5$1@news04.infoave.net>, Mike >> <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: >> >>> Jason wrote: >>> > That's true--the reason it's different on California freeways is >>> > because >>> > the freeways are really busy--especially in large cities. The cops are >>> > so >>> > busy that they don't have time to give speeding tickets to all >>> > speeders. >>> > Instead, they concentrate on speeders that are the most likely to cause >>> > accidents. An example would be a speeder that is weaving in and out of >>> > various lanes to pass slower moving cars. Those sorts of speeders are >>> > dangerous. >>> >>> That doesn't mean the other speeders aren't breaking the law. It just >>> means they realize they don't have the staff to give them all tickets. >>> >>> BTW, I just love the way you try to rationalize being a criminal and a >>> scofflaw. >> >> Yes, when I travel above the speed limit--I am violating the law. > >But, Jason! Isn't that immoral?!?!? This life is unimportant, besides he can't be immoral or amoral since he left home with the "Jesus Card." Quote
Guest stoney Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:21:12 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: >On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:40:57 -0400, "Robibnikoff" ><witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > >>"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message >>news:ft3uf3ts5l7suhd7v1d07hcqh50k9q4t0j@4ax.com... >>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 11:59:55 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >>> >>>>I now know how to keep from being noticed by police officers while driving >>>>on the freeway. >>> >>> One really great way is to not violate any laws. >> >>That's always worked for me. I've been driving for 29 years and have never >>gotten a speeding ticket. > >Who can give you a ticket when you make him forget what he pulled you >over for? /cue tongue-tied male officer.... Quote
Guest stoney Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 08:42:04 -0400, Mike <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: >Masked Avenger wrote: >> Jason wrote: >>> It's safer to follow the flow of traffic than to travel faster or slower >>> than the flow of traffic. >>> >>> >> >> >> only in California .......... apparently ...... >> > >And, according to Jason's "logic" it's NOT safer to be at the flow of >traffic if that flow is not 30MPH over the speed limit (reference his >posting about the college students that drove 6-wide on the interstate >forcing others to follow them at the speed limit. In that post he was >talking about how they could have caused an accident because of others >behind them wanting to speed. But yet they WERE driving "with the flow >of traffic" since no-one could drive any faster. What else can be expected from gasbag? Quote
Guest stoney Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:30:57 -0400, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > >"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote > >snip > >> No--I wonder how many of those people have serious medical problems. I >> have read that people that smoke marijuana on a long term basis have many >> of the same sorts of medical problems as the people that have smoked >> tobacco on a long term basis. > >Cite? The same government that provided 'data' ala such as the 'Reefer Madness' 'Documentary' which generated twenty year, or more, sentences for any amount of 'mary jane.' Quote
Guest stoney Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:28:46 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >In article <5mcfhjFc70e7U1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" ><witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in >> >> snip >> > How does marijuana cause bladder cancer? Is it the tar? If so, that could >> > explain why my 75 year old neighbor developed bladder cancer. He has been >> > smoking 2 packs per day for the last 40 years. >> >> 2 packs of marijuana? > >Cigarettes--Both marijuana and regular cigarettes (tobacco) contain tar. Idiot! You didn't indicate cigarettes in the post Robyn, and others, responded to. Then you can't understand why people laugh at you. Quote
Guest hhyapster@gmail.com Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 On Oct 8, 8:31 am, stoney <sto...@the.net> wrote: > On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:56:32 -0400, "Robibnikoff" > > <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote: > > >"Jason" <Ja...@nospam.com> wrote in message > >news:Jason-0210071425470001@67-150-121-237.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > >> In article <fdu48u$pm...@news04.infoave.net>, Mike > >> <prabb...@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: > > >>> Jason wrote: > >>> > That's true--the reason it's different on California freeways is > >>> > because > >>> > the freeways are really busy--especially in large cities. The cops are > >>> > so > >>> > busy that they don't have time to give speeding tickets to all > >>> > speeders. > >>> > Instead, they concentrate on speeders that are the most likely to cause > >>> > accidents. An example would be a speeder that is weaving in and out of > >>> > various lanes to pass slower moving cars. Those sorts of speeders are > >>> > dangerous. > > >>> That doesn't mean the other speeders aren't breaking the law. It just > >>> means they realize they don't have the staff to give them all tickets. > > >>> BTW, I just love the way you try to rationalize being a criminal and a > >>> scofflaw. > > >> Yes, when I travel above the speed limit--I am violating the law. > > >But, Jason! Isn't that immoral?!?!? > > This life is unimportant, besides he can't be immoral or amoral > since he left home with the "Jesus Card." Yes, most loons always rely upon Jesus to save them, and their god to forgive. They can do what immoral things and get away with them. Just look at how many preachers and pastors commiting molest. Quote
Guest stoney Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:45:12 -0700, hhyapster@gmail.com wrote: >On Oct 1, 11:45 am, "L. Raymond" <badaddr...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote: >> Jason wrote: >> > In article >> > <DipthotDipthot-D97083.18152530092...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>, >> > 655321 <DipthotDipt...@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: >> >> >> In article >> >> <Jason-3009071646150...@66-53-217-151.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >> >>> For example, most people >> >>> believe that 1st Degree murder was immoral so they made a law >> >> >> As you've been told, the laws against murder were made by people who >> >> didn't want to be murdered. Morality didn't enter into the matter. >> >> > It's my understanding that back in the 1600's and early 1700's, many of >> > the laws that were made in those days were based on the 10 Commandents. >> > One of the commandents is related to murder. "Thou shall not murder". >> >> Every tribe in the history of the world has had laws against murder, >> which, like in the bible, is defined as the killing of "one of us". >> Killing people from other tribes is OK, just not your own. >> >> > I seem to recall that back in those days they also had laws against >> > adultery which is also based on a commandment. >> >> There are still laws against adultery in parts of the US. It didn't >> originate as a question of morals, but of possession. In a patriarchy, >> men have to know the babies their brood mares bear have been fathered by >> them, so they make it a crime for a their women to have to have sex >> outside of marriage. Generally, when it comes to adultery, men are >> fined and women killed or at least beaten. Such laws still exist today, >> most noticeably in countries practising sharia'a, where women are still >> killed for adultery, while the men pay a fine, although I read a man was >> actually sentenced to death for adultery earlier this year. >> >> -- >> L. Raymond > >You know, there is a phrase like : "Frog in a water well" which means >people looking up the sky and believe that is their world. >In broad sense its called shallow and naive. >That is Jason the old man who knows little. He learned a little from >the bible and thought every thing in this world is what the bible >says. He did not know bible only bullshit about 0.0000000000001% of >all things in this world, assuming valid subjects. >This tells you about his mentality. What 'mentality?' Quote
Guest stoney Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:38:52 GMT, 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: >In article ><Jason-3009071924350001@66-53-216-191.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > >> In article >> <DipthotDipthot-D97083.18152530092007@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>, >> 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: >> >> > In article >> > <Jason-3009071646150001@66-53-217-151.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >> > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> > >> > > For example, most people >> > > believe that 1st Degree murder was immoral so they made a law >> > >> > As you've been told, the laws against murder were made by people who >> > didn't want to be murdered. Morality didn't enter into the matter. >> >> It's my understanding > >ALERT! Alert! "Facts" to follow are unlikely to survive even casual >scrutiny. > >> that back in the 1600's and early 1700's, many of >> the laws that were made in those days were based on the 10 Commandents. > >That is false. No surprise there. To begin with, laws against murder > predate the so-called "10 Commandments." > >> One of the commandents is related to murder. "Thou shall not murder". > >You continue to underestimate the knowledge of the posters on this >newsgroup. The fact is, we by and large have greater knowledge of the >Bible than you do. > >> I seem to recall that back in those days they also had laws against >> adultery which is also based on a commandment. > >Irrelevant. > >Besides, the so-called "10 Commandments" are mostly wasted on >expressions of the monster-god's vanity and jealousy. Don't forget terminal insecurity, stupidity, idiocy and more. >So there's no reason to take them seriously. Since 'God' doesn't exist and Christians don't take them seriously. Quote
Guest stoney Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:26:14 -0400, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > >"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >news:Jason-2709071210340001@67-150-170-180.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >> In article <fdgc55$b6m$2@news04.infoave.net>, Mike >> <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: >> >>> Jason wrote: >>> > In article <fddkjd$ih6$2@news04.infoave.net>, Mike >>> > <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Jason wrote: >>> >>> In article <5lsgk4F9qu9mU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" >>> >>> <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in >>> >>>> >>> >>>> snip >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> I consider the use of all illegal drugs as immoral. >>> >>>> So? You don't get to decide what's immoral for the rest of the >>> >>>> world's >>> >>>> population. >>> >>> That is true. In fact, I ignored the young people that were smoking >>> >>> joints >>> >>> and did not report them to the police. >>> >> And you wouldn't report a murder, eh? >>> > >>> > The smoking of marijuana is a victimless crime. A murder involves a >>> > victim >>> > so I would call the police in that case. >>> >>> If it's so "victimless" then what makes it immoral? You still haven't >>> explained that. >> >> Marijuana hurts the person due to the long term side effects. > >Not always. That would depend on the level of the user. How many experiance points would one need to go from 6th to 7th level User?..... Quote
Guest stoney Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:23:42 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >In article <uouqf39rjmsfdo0vs1ijje5g4aqlqebh23@4ax.com>, Free Lunch ><lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote: [] >> >> And, according to the article you posted earlier, pot smoking is even >> >> less likely to cause the same kinds of problems. >> >> >> >> So again.... your point about the immorality of pot smoking is..... >> >> >> >> >> >> ...not forthcoming, I'd warrant. >> > >> >You failed to mention that the long term use of high amounts of marijuana >> >has some very serious side effects--including bladder cancer. >> > >> Marijuana is a bit less dangerous than alcohol and substantially less >> dangerous than tobacco. Used in moderation it is unlikely to cause >> serious health problems. > >Based upon what I have read--you are correct. However, it would be safer >for people to not use tobacco or marijuana. I'd rather have folks use tobacco than opium crack superstition-like the Abrahamic variants. It's much safer for other people as they would stand more likely to live a full life span. >The exception would be for >people that have serious health problems that need to smoke marijuana to >relieve pain and nausea. I support the medical use of marijuana mainly >because I know a person that has Lupus that has severe problems with >nausea and joint pain. She told me that smoking marijuana really helps >her. I encouraged her to keep smoking it if it helps her. What? You didn't pray her Lupus away? But then there's no point to show, again, the Bible lies. >jason > Quote
Guest stoney Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:00:15 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: >On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:42:42 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > >>The reason I mentioned the serious side effects (eg bladder cancer) of >>smoking high amounts of marijuana on a long term basis is because someone >>asked me for the reasons that I believed that the use of marijuana by >>healthy people was immoral. > >Ant even if it DID cause bladder cancer, that wouldn't make smoking it >immoral. You evidently have no idea what the word 'immoral' means. Jason hasn't any idea of what many words mean. Such as; superstition, fiction, courage, integrity, humanity, compassion, empathy, hypocrisy, freedom, education, and more. Quote
Guest James Beck Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 In article <Jason-0510071339580001@66-53-217-152.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... > In article <MPG.21706829e4099ec998a1f0@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James > Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > > > In article <Jason-0510071205080001@67-150-123-226.lsan.mdsg- > > pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... > > > In article <MPG.217029d8d4f5347198a1ed@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James > > > Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > > > > > > > In article <Jason-0410071803390001@67-150-125-64.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > > > > Jason@nospam.com says... > > > > > In article > > > > > <DipthotDipthot-178E68.16282104102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, > > > > > 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > <Jason-0410071451140001@67-150-122-66.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > > > > > > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a man had HIV and had anal sex with a man or a woman, that man > > > or woman > > > > > > > could could end up with HIV. On the other hand, if a man that had > > > HIV had > > > > > > > normal sex with a woman, it's not likely that the woman would end > > > up with > > > > > > > HIV. Yes, I know that it could happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason, please stop trying to educate. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just stop. > > > > > > > > > > > > You're just embarrassing yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > Really. Go back to preaching the lies spread by the ICR. At > least you > > > > > > are in familiar territory while doing that. > > > > > > > > > > Since you know so much about HIV and AIDS--answer this simple question: > > > > > > > > > > If a man that had HIV had sex with a woman--would the woman more likely > > > > > develop HIV as a result of anal sex or regular sex? > > > > > > > > > > > > > That all depends, did the condom fall off? > > > > Where does the blood come in? > > > > If it takes blood, some one would have to be bleeding. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > No condom was used and none of the people were bleeding. > > > > > Well, then according to you, there should be no HIV transmission at all. > > > > Remember this? > > You said : > > > HIV is caused when blood is spread from one person to another person. I > > > heard about a nurse that developed HIV as a result of sticking herself > > > with a needle that she had used on a patient that had HIV. > > > > So, by the rules of Jason, no blood transfer, no HIV transfer. > > > > Jim > > The blood was transferred from the HIV patient to the nurse via the blood > on the needle. That is the means by which many heroin addicts develop HIV. > They use dirty needles that have blood on them. In some cities, they give > new needles to heroin addicts to prevent them from developing HIV. > jason > OK???? Now you have talked yourself full circle. Just scroll up and refresh your memory on the thread. When you get your head on straight, get back to me. Jim Quote
Guest James Beck Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 In article <Jason-0510071341550001@66-53-217-152.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... > In article <MPG.217068f671f9e79498a1f1@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James > Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > > > In article <Jason-0510071209550001@67-150-123-226.lsan.mdsg- > > pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... > > > In article <5mmsooFdo2pvU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" > > > <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in > > > > > > > > sni > > > > > I was referring to heterosexuals in America. I do not know > anything about > > > > > sexual practices in Africa. It's my guess that men in Africa are more > > > > > likely to have anal sex with women than men in other parts of the world. > > > > > > > > WHAT?!? Based on what evidence?!? Are you really this naive?!? > > > > > > We discussed in the AIDS class the reason why just as many women in Africa > > > had AIDS as the men in Africa. The teacher believed the reason was that > > > sexual practices in Africa were different than in any other country in the > > > world. He did not discusst he sexual practices in Africa. > > > > > > Why do you believe that many more men in America have HIV and AIDS > than woman? > > > > > > > So, you just used "Jason Logic" and assumed that the difference in the > > sexual practices in Africa were lots and lots of butt sex???? > > BTW, Africa is a continent, not a country. > > > > I'm telling you dude, it has gotta' hurt. > > How much you spend on aspirin in a month???? > > > > Jim > > Yes--and this is proof: > > > http://www.popline.org/docs/1469/181743.html > > Public health authorities have long believed that the preponderance of > AIDS cases in Africa are attributable to 'heterosexual transmission'; most > people silently assume this rubric to indicate penile-vaginal intercourse > only. Recent epidemiologic analyses suggest that the majority of HIV cases > in sub-Saharan Africa may be due to non-sterile health care practices. The > present paper reviews the anthropological, proctologic, and infectious > disease literature, and argues that both homosexuality and heterosexual > anal intercourse are more prevalent in Africa than has traditionally been > believed. The authors hypothesize that perhaps the majority of HIV > transmission not accounted for by iatrogenic exposure could be accounted > for by unsuspected and unreported penile-anal intercourse. Given the > authors Quote
Guest SeppoP Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 James Beck wrote: > In article <Jason-0510071339580001@66-53-217-152.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > Jason@nospam.com says... >> In article <MPG.21706829e4099ec998a1f0@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James >> Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: >> >>> In article <Jason-0510071205080001@67-150-123-226.lsan.mdsg- >>> pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... >>>> In article <MPG.217029d8d4f5347198a1ed@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James >>>> Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In article <Jason-0410071803390001@67-150-125-64.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >>>>> Jason@nospam.com says... >>>>>> In article >>>>>> <DipthotDipthot-178E68.16282104102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, >>>>>> 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In article >>>>>>> <Jason-0410071451140001@67-150-122-66.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >>>>>>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If a man had HIV and had anal sex with a man or a woman, that man >>>> or woman >>>>>>>> could could end up with HIV. On the other hand, if a man that had >>>> HIV had >>>>>>>> normal sex with a woman, it's not likely that the woman would end >>>> up with >>>>>>>> HIV. Yes, I know that it could happen. >>>>>>> Jason, please stop trying to educate. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just stop. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You're just embarrassing yourself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Really. Go back to preaching the lies spread by the ICR. At >> least you >>>>>>> are in familiar territory while doing that. >>>>>> Since you know so much about HIV and AIDS--answer this simple question: >>>>>> >>>>>> If a man that had HIV had sex with a woman--would the woman more likely >>>>>> develop HIV as a result of anal sex or regular sex? >>>>>> >>>>> That all depends, did the condom fall off? >>>>> Where does the blood come in? >>>>> If it takes blood, some one would have to be bleeding. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>> No condom was used and none of the people were bleeding. >>>> >>> Well, then according to you, there should be no HIV transmission at all. >>> >>> Remember this? >>> You said : >>>> HIV is caused when blood is spread from one person to another person. I >>>> heard about a nurse that developed HIV as a result of sticking herself >>>> with a needle that she had used on a patient that had HIV. >>> So, by the rules of Jason, no blood transfer, no HIV transfer. >>> >>> Jim >> The blood was transferred from the HIV patient to the nurse via the blood >> on the needle. That is the means by which many heroin addicts develop HIV. >> They use dirty needles that have blood on them. In some cities, they give >> new needles to heroin addicts to prevent them from developing HIV. >> jason >> > > OK???? > Now you have talked yourself full circle. > Just scroll up and refresh your memory on the thread. > When you get your head on straight, get back to me. > > > Jim Well, that'll take a while, don't hold your breath... -- Seppo P. What's wrong with Theocracy? (a Finnish Taliban, Oct 1, 2005) Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:41:13 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:43:42 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> >wrote: > >>On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:37:59 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >>>In article <629rf31mhi0deiptdrls09rgfdu6k9eh2f@4ax.com>, Al Klein >>><rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:30:02 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >>>> >>>> >In article <5m4dlrFbkefiU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" >>>> ><witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote >>>> >> >>>> >> snip >>>> >> >>>> >> > I also find the nature shows on television to be comical when the >>>narrator >>>> >> > starts discussing evolution. >>>> >> >>>> >> I bet you do - How sad. >>>> > >>>> >Have you heard about "The Big Lie". It means that if a "lie" is told over >>>> >and over for dozens of years--that most people will believe the "lie" is >>>> >actually a true fact. >>>> > >>>> >For example, many people once believed that the earth was the center of >>>> >the universe. Most people believed that Big Lie. >>>> >>>> That was a big lie told by your religion. >>>> >>>> So is the one about your god existing. >>> >>>So it the one about naturalistic abiogenesis and the primordial pond. >> >>The primordial pond existed, Jason. Exactly when the planet got cool >>enough for some gasses to condense into liquids isn't known, but it IS >>known that it happened. If it hadn't happened we'd still be living on >>a desert world. >> >>And life DID Start at some time in the past on this planet. We KNOW >>that there was no life here before there was a 'here', so life started >>SOMETIME. Since there's absolutely not the slightest shred of >>evidence of anything supernatural (and never has been any), life got >>its start naturally. >> >>Any fairly stupid 10 year old could follow that logic. > >Since Jason's mental age is 5-1/2..... And any normally intelligent 5-1/2 year old could follow it ... -- Al at Webdingers dot com "They laughed at Newton, they laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at Bozo the Clown." - Carl Sagan Quote
Guest James Beck Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 In article <5mv2b4Ffde0mU1@mid.individual.net>, seppo_pietikainen@xyahoox.com says... > James Beck wrote: > > In article <Jason-0510071339580001@66-53-217-152.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > > Jason@nospam.com says... > >> In article <MPG.21706829e4099ec998a1f0@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James > >> Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > >> > >>> In article <Jason-0510071205080001@67-150-123-226.lsan.mdsg- > >>> pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... > >>>> In article <MPG.217029d8d4f5347198a1ed@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James > >>>> Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> In article <Jason-0410071803390001@67-150-125-64.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > >>>>> Jason@nospam.com says... > >>>>>> In article > >>>>>> <DipthotDipthot-178E68.16282104102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, > >>>>>> 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> In article > >>>>>>> <Jason-0410071451140001@67-150-122-66.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > >>>>>>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> If a man had HIV and had anal sex with a man or a woman, that man > >>>> or woman > >>>>>>>> could could end up with HIV. On the other hand, if a man that had > >>>> HIV had > >>>>>>>> normal sex with a woman, it's not likely that the woman would end > >>>> up with > >>>>>>>> HIV. Yes, I know that it could happen. > >>>>>>> Jason, please stop trying to educate. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Just stop. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You're just embarrassing yourself. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Really. Go back to preaching the lies spread by the ICR. At > >> least you > >>>>>>> are in familiar territory while doing that. > >>>>>> Since you know so much about HIV and AIDS--answer this simple question: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If a man that had HIV had sex with a woman--would the woman more likely > >>>>>> develop HIV as a result of anal sex or regular sex? > >>>>>> > >>>>> That all depends, did the condom fall off? > >>>>> Where does the blood come in? > >>>>> If it takes blood, some one would have to be bleeding. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Jim > >>>> No condom was used and none of the people were bleeding. > >>>> > >>> Well, then according to you, there should be no HIV transmission at all. > >>> > >>> Remember this? > >>> You said : > >>>> HIV is caused when blood is spread from one person to another person. I > >>>> heard about a nurse that developed HIV as a result of sticking herself > >>>> with a needle that she had used on a patient that had HIV. > >>> So, by the rules of Jason, no blood transfer, no HIV transfer. > >>> > >>> Jim > >> The blood was transferred from the HIV patient to the nurse via the blood > >> on the needle. That is the means by which many heroin addicts develop HIV. > >> They use dirty needles that have blood on them. In some cities, they give > >> new needles to heroin addicts to prevent them from developing HIV. > >> jason > >> > > > > OK???? > > Now you have talked yourself full circle. > > Just scroll up and refresh your memory on the thread. > > When you get your head on straight, get back to me. > > > > > > Jim > > Well, that'll take a while, don't hold your breath... > More like I was hoping for a refreshing break. Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 In article <MPG.2174188f7c3aa9e898a1f5@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > In article <Jason-0510071339580001@66-53-217-152.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > Jason@nospam.com says... > > In article <MPG.21706829e4099ec998a1f0@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James > > Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > > > > > In article <Jason-0510071205080001@67-150-123-226.lsan.mdsg- > > > pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... > > > > In article <MPG.217029d8d4f5347198a1ed@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James > > > > Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In article <Jason-0410071803390001@67-150-125-64.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > > > > > Jason@nospam.com says... > > > > > > In article > > > > > > <DipthotDipthot-178E68.16282104102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, > > > > > > 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > <Jason-0410071451140001@67-150-122-66.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > > > > > > > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a man had HIV and had anal sex with a man or a woman, that man > > > > or woman > > > > > > > > could could end up with HIV. On the other hand, if a man that had > > > > HIV had > > > > > > > > normal sex with a woman, it's not likely that the woman would end > > > > up with > > > > > > > > HIV. Yes, I know that it could happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason, please stop trying to educate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just stop. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're just embarrassing yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Really. Go back to preaching the lies spread by the ICR. At > > least you > > > > > > > are in familiar territory while doing that. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you know so much about HIV and AIDS--answer this simple question: > > > > > > > > > > > > If a man that had HIV had sex with a woman--would the woman more likely > > > > > > develop HIV as a result of anal sex or regular sex? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That all depends, did the condom fall off? > > > > > Where does the blood come in? > > > > > If it takes blood, some one would have to be bleeding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > No condom was used and none of the people were bleeding. > > > > > > > Well, then according to you, there should be no HIV transmission at all. > > > > > > Remember this? > > > You said : > > > > HIV is caused when blood is spread from one person to another person. I > > > > heard about a nurse that developed HIV as a result of sticking herself > > > > with a needle that she had used on a patient that had HIV. > > > > > > So, by the rules of Jason, no blood transfer, no HIV transfer. > > > > > > Jim > > > > The blood was transferred from the HIV patient to the nurse via the blood > > on the needle. That is the means by which many heroin addicts develop HIV. > > They use dirty needles that have blood on them. In some cities, they give > > new needles to heroin addicts to prevent them from developing HIV. > > jason > > > > OK???? > Now you have talked yourself full circle. > Just scroll up and refresh your memory on the thread. > When you get your head on straight, get back to me. > > > Jim I am not talking in circles. I have stated in various posts that the reason people (or even children) develop HIV--it's because they came into contact with blood. The reason the nurse developed HIV is because she came into contact with blood. Most all dentists, doctors and nurses now wear rubber gloves to keep from coming into contact with blood. I always make sure I see the doctor, nurse or dentist put on new rubber gloves before I let them touch me. My dentist not only wears gloves but also wears a mask to cover his mouth and nose while working on patients. The reason that is much safer to have normal sex with a woman instead of anal sex--is because during normal sex--blood usually does not transfer from one person to the other person. I posted a report indicating that one of the main reasons that so many woman in Africa have developed AIDS is because lots of people in Africa have anal sex. Jason Quote
Guest James Beck Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 In article <Jason-0810071407140001@67-150-125-48.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... > In article <MPG.2174188f7c3aa9e898a1f5@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James > Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > > > In article <Jason-0510071339580001@66-53-217-152.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > > Jason@nospam.com says... > > > In article <MPG.21706829e4099ec998a1f0@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James > > > Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > > > > > > > In article <Jason-0510071205080001@67-150-123-226.lsan.mdsg- > > > > pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... > > > > > In article <MPG.217029d8d4f5347198a1ed@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James > > > > > Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In article > <Jason-0410071803390001@67-150-125-64.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > > > > > > Jason@nospam.com says... > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > <DipthotDipthot-178E68.16282104102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, > > > > > > > 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > > <Jason-0410071451140001@67-150-122-66.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > > > > > > > > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a man had HIV and had anal sex with a man or a woman, > that man > > > > > or woman > > > > > > > > > could could end up with HIV. On the other hand, if a man > that had > > > > > HIV had > > > > > > > > > normal sex with a woman, it's not likely that the woman > would end > > > > > up with > > > > > > > > > HIV. Yes, I know that it could happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason, please stop trying to educate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just stop. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're just embarrassing yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Really. Go back to preaching the lies spread by the ICR. At > > > least you > > > > > > > > are in familiar territory while doing that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you know so much about HIV and AIDS--answer this simple > question: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a man that had HIV had sex with a woman--would the woman > more likely > > > > > > > develop HIV as a result of anal sex or regular sex? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That all depends, did the condom fall off? > > > > > > Where does the blood come in? > > > > > > If it takes blood, some one would have to be bleeding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > No condom was used and none of the people were bleeding. > > > > > > > > > Well, then according to you, there should be no HIV transmission at all. > > > > > > > > Remember this? > > > > You said : > > > > > HIV is caused when blood is spread from one person to another person. I > > > > > heard about a nurse that developed HIV as a result of sticking herself > > > > > with a needle that she had used on a patient that had HIV. > > > > > > > > So, by the rules of Jason, no blood transfer, no HIV transfer. > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > The blood was transferred from the HIV patient to the nurse via the blood > > > on the needle. That is the means by which many heroin addicts develop HIV. > > > They use dirty needles that have blood on them. In some cities, they give > > > new needles to heroin addicts to prevent them from developing HIV. > > > jason > > > > > > > OK???? > > Now you have talked yourself full circle. > > Just scroll up and refresh your memory on the thread. > > When you get your head on straight, get back to me. > > > > > > Jim > > I am not talking in circles. I have stated in various posts that the > reason people (or even children) develop HIV--it's because they came into > contact with blood. The reason the nurse developed HIV is because she came > into contact with blood. Most all dentists, doctors and nurses now wear > rubber gloves to keep from coming into contact with blood. I always make > sure I see the doctor, nurse or dentist put on new rubber gloves before I > let them touch me. My dentist not only wears gloves but also wears a mask > to cover his mouth and nose while working on patients. The reason that is > much safer to have normal sex with a woman instead of anal sex--is because > during normal sex--blood usually does not transfer from one person to the > other person. I posted a report indicating that one of the main reasons > that so many woman in Africa have developed AIDS is because lots of people > in Africa have anal sex. > Jason > The article you posted was refuted and just how does anal sex cause blood to be transferred between partners? AND, just what is your point with this whole thing? Having sex with a person infected with HIV can transfer HIV. Yep, big scientific breakthrough there. What is the difference if it is oral, vaginal, anal, or whatever. Jim Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 In article <MPG.217472ba5105506798a1fa@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > In article <Jason-0810071407140001@67-150-125-48.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > Jason@nospam.com says... > > In article <MPG.2174188f7c3aa9e898a1f5@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James > > Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > > > > > In article <Jason-0510071339580001@66-53-217-152.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > > > Jason@nospam.com says... > > > > In article <MPG.21706829e4099ec998a1f0@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James > > > > Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In article <Jason-0510071205080001@67-150-123-226.lsan.mdsg- > > > > > pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... > > > > > > In article <MPG.217029d8d4f5347198a1ed@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James > > > > > > Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > <Jason-0410071803390001@67-150-125-64.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > > > > > > > Jason@nospam.com says... > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > > <DipthotDipthot-178E68.16282104102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, > > > > > > > > 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > > > <Jason-0410071451140001@67-150-122-66.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > > > > > > > > > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a man had HIV and had anal sex with a man or a woman, > > that man > > > > > > or woman > > > > > > > > > > could could end up with HIV. On the other hand, if a man > > that had > > > > > > HIV had > > > > > > > > > > normal sex with a woman, it's not likely that the woman > > would end > > > > > > up with > > > > > > > > > > HIV. Yes, I know that it could happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason, please stop trying to educate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just stop. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're just embarrassing yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Really. Go back to preaching the lies spread by the ICR. At > > > > least you > > > > > > > > > are in familiar territory while doing that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you know so much about HIV and AIDS--answer this simple > > question: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a man that had HIV had sex with a woman--would the woman > > more likely > > > > > > > > develop HIV as a result of anal sex or regular sex? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That all depends, did the condom fall off? > > > > > > > Where does the blood come in? > > > > > > > If it takes blood, some one would have to be bleeding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > No condom was used and none of the people were bleeding. > > > > > > > > > > > Well, then according to you, there should be no HIV transmission at all. > > > > > > > > > > Remember this? > > > > > You said : > > > > > > HIV is caused when blood is spread from one person to another person. I > > > > > > heard about a nurse that developed HIV as a result of sticking herself > > > > > > with a needle that she had used on a patient that had HIV. > > > > > > > > > > So, by the rules of Jason, no blood transfer, no HIV transfer. > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > The blood was transferred from the HIV patient to the nurse via the blood > > > > on the needle. That is the means by which many heroin addicts develop HIV. > > > > They use dirty needles that have blood on them. In some cities, they give > > > > new needles to heroin addicts to prevent them from developing HIV. > > > > jason > > > > > > > > > > OK???? > > > Now you have talked yourself full circle. > > > Just scroll up and refresh your memory on the thread. > > > When you get your head on straight, get back to me. > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > I am not talking in circles. I have stated in various posts that the > > reason people (or even children) develop HIV--it's because they came into > > contact with blood. The reason the nurse developed HIV is because she came > > into contact with blood. Most all dentists, doctors and nurses now wear > > rubber gloves to keep from coming into contact with blood. I always make > > sure I see the doctor, nurse or dentist put on new rubber gloves before I > > let them touch me. My dentist not only wears gloves but also wears a mask > > to cover his mouth and nose while working on patients. The reason that is > > much safer to have normal sex with a woman instead of anal sex--is because > > during normal sex--blood usually does not transfer from one person to the > > other person. I posted a report indicating that one of the main reasons > > that so many woman in Africa have developed AIDS is because lots of people > > in Africa have anal sex. > > Jason > > > > The article you posted was refuted and just how does anal sex cause > blood to be transferred between partners? > AND, just what is your point with this whole thing? > Having sex with a person infected with HIV can transfer HIV. > Yep, big scientific breakthrough there. > What is the difference if it is oral, vaginal, anal, or whatever. > > Jim You need to take a AIDS couse. When I took the course, the question was in regard to why such a large number of male homosexuals developed AIDS. The answer was because they engaged in anal sex. The question was in regard to why such a large number of women in America did not have AIDS. The answer was that a large number of American women had not ever engaged in anal sex. The question was in regard to why so many African women have developed AIDS. That question was not asked in the AIDS class that I attended. I googled "Anal Sex Africa AIDS". I got lots of hits. In almost every site that I visited, it mentioned that lots of women in Africa had engaged in anal sex. If you are married, you should know that in most cases--there is no blood to blood transfer during regular sex. Ask any homosexual if there is blood to blood transfer during anal sex--if they are honest--they will tell you that bleeding does happen on a regular basis during anal sex. I learned that information from the nurse that taught the AIDS class. She stated that huge numbers of people have hemorrhoids and that they can easily start bleeding during anal sex. If your google "anal sex bleeding" you will probably find information that confirms that the nurse that taught the AIDS class was telling the truth. Jason Quote
Guest James Beck Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 In article <Jason-0810071628590001@66-53-210-85.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... > In article <MPG.217472ba5105506798a1fa@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James > Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > > > In article <Jason-0810071407140001@67-150-125-48.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > > Jason@nospam.com says... > > > In article <MPG.2174188f7c3aa9e898a1f5@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James > > > Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > > > > > > > In article <Jason-0510071339580001@66-53-217-152.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > > > > Jason@nospam.com says... > > > > > In article <MPG.21706829e4099ec998a1f0@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James > > > > > Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In article <Jason-0510071205080001@67-150-123-226.lsan.mdsg- > > > > > > pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... > > > > > > > In article > <MPG.217029d8d4f5347198a1ed@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James > > > > > > > Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > <Jason-0410071803390001@67-150-125-64.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > > > > > > > > Jason@nospam.com says... > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > > > > <DipthotDipthot-178E68.16282104102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, > > > > > > > > > 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > > > > <Jason-0410071451140001@67-150-122-66.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, > > > > > > > > > > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a man had HIV and had anal sex with a man or a woman, > > > that man > > > > > > > or woman > > > > > > > > > > > could could end up with HIV. On the other hand, if a man > > > that had > > > > > > > HIV had > > > > > > > > > > > normal sex with a woman, it's not likely that the woman > > > would end > > > > > > > up with > > > > > > > > > > > HIV. Yes, I know that it could happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason, please stop trying to educate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just stop. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're just embarrassing yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Really. Go back to preaching the lies spread by the ICR. At > > > > > least you > > > > > > > > > > are in familiar territory while doing that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you know so much about HIV and AIDS--answer this simple > > > question: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a man that had HIV had sex with a woman--would the woman > > > more likely > > > > > > > > > develop HIV as a result of anal sex or regular sex? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That all depends, did the condom fall off? > > > > > > > > Where does the blood come in? > > > > > > > > If it takes blood, some one would have to be bleeding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No condom was used and none of the people were bleeding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, then according to you, there should be no HIV transmission > at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > Remember this? > > > > > > You said : > > > > > > > HIV is caused when blood is spread from one person to another > person. I > > > > > > > heard about a nurse that developed HIV as a result of sticking > herself > > > > > > > with a needle that she had used on a patient that had HIV. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, by the rules of Jason, no blood transfer, no HIV transfer. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > The blood was transferred from the HIV patient to the nurse via > the blood > > > > > on the needle. That is the means by which many heroin addicts > develop HIV. > > > > > They use dirty needles that have blood on them. In some cities, > they give > > > > > new needles to heroin addicts to prevent them from developing HIV. > > > > > jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK???? > > > > Now you have talked yourself full circle. > > > > Just scroll up and refresh your memory on the thread. > > > > When you get your head on straight, get back to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > I am not talking in circles. I have stated in various posts that the > > > reason people (or even children) develop HIV--it's because they came into > > > contact with blood. The reason the nurse developed HIV is because she came > > > into contact with blood. Most all dentists, doctors and nurses now wear > > > rubber gloves to keep from coming into contact with blood. I always make > > > sure I see the doctor, nurse or dentist put on new rubber gloves before I > > > let them touch me. My dentist not only wears gloves but also wears a mask > > > to cover his mouth and nose while working on patients. The reason that is > > > much safer to have normal sex with a woman instead of anal sex--is because > > > during normal sex--blood usually does not transfer from one person to the > > > other person. I posted a report indicating that one of the main reasons > > > that so many woman in Africa have developed AIDS is because lots of people > > > in Africa have anal sex. > > > Jason > > > > > > > The article you posted was refuted and just how does anal sex cause > > blood to be transferred between partners? > > AND, just what is your point with this whole thing? > > Having sex with a person infected with HIV can transfer HIV. > > Yep, big scientific breakthrough there. > > What is the difference if it is oral, vaginal, anal, or whatever. > > > > Jim > > You need to take a AIDS couse. When I took the course, the question was in > regard to why such a large number of male homosexuals developed AIDS. The > answer was because they engaged in anal sex. > > The question was in regard to why such a large number of women in America > did not have AIDS. The answer was that a large number of American women > had not ever engaged in anal sex. > > The question was in regard to why so many African women have developed > AIDS. That question was not asked in the AIDS class that I attended. > > I googled "Anal Sex Africa AIDS". I got lots of hits. In almost every site > that I visited, it mentioned that lots of women in Africa had engaged in > anal sex. > > If you are married, you should know that in most cases--there is no blood > to blood transfer during regular sex. > > Ask any homosexual if there is blood to blood transfer during anal sex--if > they are honest--they will tell you that bleeding does happen on a regular > basis during anal sex. I learned that information from the nurse that > taught the AIDS class. She stated that huge numbers of people have > hemorrhoids and that they can easily start bleeding during anal sex. > > If your google "anal sex bleeding" you will probably find information that > confirms that the nurse that taught the AIDS class was telling the truth. > > Jason > I don't need to take any AIDS class. Your "article" was nothing but supposition and lots of women in America have anal sex too. There is even some "preachers" that are saying that it is OK in the context of a married couple's sex life. Just google "anal sex in America" You still didn't answer the question. What difference does it make? You must have a point to this anal sex obsession. Just spell it out in plain language. Jim Quote
Guest Tokay Pino Gris Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 655321 wrote: > In article <r9mNi.6746$6p6.2378@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, > cactus <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote: > >> hhyapster@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Oct 4, 9:56 am, 655321 <DipthotDipt...@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: >>>> In article >>>> <Jason-0310071726530...@67-150-172-92.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >>>> >>>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >>>>> In article <iwUMi.107$LD2...@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>, 655321 >>>>> <DipthotDipt...@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: >>>>>> Charles & Mambo Duckman wrote: >>>>>>> Jason wrote: >>>>>>>> There is a famous highway in Germany called the Autobabn (spelling). >>>>>>> Jesus Christ, Jason, get a clue. Autobahn means highway in German. >>>>>> Jason must have "learned" at an early age that ignorance is to be >>>>>> celebrated, that learning is to be suspected, and that facts are to be >>>>>> misunderstood. >>>>> You may speak German but you should not expect everyone else in the world >>>>> to speak German. >>>> One need not know how to speak German to know what "Autobahn" means. A >>>> basic education should have led to knowledge of such a thing. >>> You can't communicate sensibly with this naive bigotry old man who >>> only has a reasoning power of a 1st grader. >>> >> Why are you insulting first graders? > > Eep. > > I'm so ashamed. > > I'll say my forty hail-Dawkinses and follow it with fifty lashes from a > Mobius strip. > Which side? Tokay -- The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves. Victor Hugo Quote
Guest Tokay Pino Gris Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 SeppoP wrote: > James Beck wrote: >> In article >> <Jason-0510071339580001@66-53-217-152.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >> Jason@nospam.com says... >>> In article <MPG.21706829e4099ec998a1f0@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James >>> Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: >>> >>>> In article <Jason-0510071205080001@67-150-123-226.lsan.mdsg- >>>> pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... >>>>> In article <MPG.217029d8d4f5347198a1ed@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, >>>>> James >>>>> Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In article >>>>>> <Jason-0410071803390001@67-150-125-64.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >>>>>> Jason@nospam.com says... >>>>>>> In article >>>>>>> <DipthotDipthot-178E68.16282104102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, >>>>>>> 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In article >>>>>>>> <Jason-0410071451140001@67-150-122-66.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >>>>>>>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If a man had HIV and had anal sex with a man or a woman, that man >>>>> or woman >>>>>>>>> could could end up with HIV. On the other hand, if a man that had >>>>> HIV had >>>>>>>>> normal sex with a woman, it's not likely that the woman would end >>>>> up with >>>>>>>>> HIV. Yes, I know that it could happen. >>>>>>>> Jason, please stop trying to educate. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just stop. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You're just embarrassing yourself. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Really. Go back to preaching the lies spread by the ICR. At >>> least you >>>>>>>> are in familiar territory while doing that. >>>>>>> Since you know so much about HIV and AIDS--answer this simple >>>>>>> question: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If a man that had HIV had sex with a woman--would the woman more >>>>>>> likely >>>>>>> develop HIV as a result of anal sex or regular sex? >>>>>>> >>>>>> That all depends, did the condom fall off? >>>>>> Where does the blood come in? >>>>>> If it takes blood, some one would have to be bleeding. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim >>>>> No condom was used and none of the people were bleeding. >>>>> >>>> Well, then according to you, there should be no HIV transmission at >>>> all. >>>> >>>> Remember this? >>>> You said : >>>>> HIV is caused when blood is spread from one person to another >>>>> person. I >>>>> heard about a nurse that developed HIV as a result of sticking herself >>>>> with a needle that she had used on a patient that had HIV. >>>> So, by the rules of Jason, no blood transfer, no HIV transfer. >>>> >>>> Jim >>> The blood was transferred from the HIV patient to the nurse via the >>> blood >>> on the needle. That is the means by which many heroin addicts develop >>> HIV. >>> They use dirty needles that have blood on them. In some cities, they >>> give >>> new needles to heroin addicts to prevent them from developing HIV. >>> jason >>> >> >> OK???? >> Now you have talked yourself full circle. >> Just scroll up and refresh your memory on the thread. >> When you get your head on straight, get back to me. >> >> >> Jim > > Well, that'll take a while, don't hold your breath... > First, find a head. Preferably with a brain inside... Tokay -- The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves. Victor Hugo Quote
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