Guest cactus Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 Brian E. Clark wrote: > In article <5lsqt6F9t8feU1@mid.individual.net>, > Robibnikoff said... > >>> None, now he has to pad his little black book with >>> personal speculation to keep the faith. >> So, business as usual, eh? > > Indeed so, going all the way back to the beginnings of > the faith. We're told that when Jesus said he'd return > within lifetime of his followers, he really meant he'd > be back sometime in the next several thousand years. > And curiously, that return is always just around the > corner, with signs and wonders pointing toward Jesus's > imminent reappearance. > > Such reworking of the material continues today: > > When Jesus said 'render unto Caesar,' in a context > point-on applying to taxation, he really meant > that Christians should oppose taxation of any kind, > especially for the rich. > > The combination of Jesus's silence regarding > homosexuality and his plain condemnation of divorce > shows that Christians should persecute gays and ignore > divorcers. (C.f., Jesus's silence about abortion.) > > When Jesus warned against storing up treasures on > earth, and directed his followers to help the poor > even at considerable cost to themselves, he really > meant that Christians should seek to acquire great > wealth, to ignore the plight of others, and to oppose > programs which aid poor people. > You all think that Jason has given up on us? Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 In article <MPG.21847ac34147f32e98ab6c@216.196.97.136>, Brian E. Clark <reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote: > In article <5lsqt6F9t8feU1@mid.individual.net>, > Robibnikoff said... > > > > None, now he has to pad his little black book with > > > personal speculation to keep the faith. > > > > So, business as usual, eh? > > Indeed so, going all the way back to the beginnings of > the faith. We're told that when Jesus said he'd return > within lifetime of his followers, he really meant he'd > be back sometime in the next several thousand years. > And curiously, that return is always just around the > corner, with signs and wonders pointing toward Jesus's > imminent reappearance. Please tell me which verse you are referring to? > > Such reworking of the material continues today: > > When Jesus said 'render unto Caesar,' in a context > point-on applying to taxation, he really meant > that Christians should oppose taxation of any kind, > especially for the rich. I believe he was telling people to pay their taxes. > > The combination of Jesus's silence regarding > homosexuality and his plain condemnation of divorce > shows that Christians should persecute gays and ignore > divorcers. (C.f., Jesus's silence about abortion.) I don't recall that Jesus was ever asked a question about homosexuality. Yes, Jesus was not a fan of divorce. He wanted people to remain married to each other. Back in the 1600's and 1700's--there were not very many divorces. > > When Jesus warned against storing up treasures on > earth, and directed his followers to help the poor > even at considerable cost to themselves, he really > meant that Christians should seek to acquire great > wealth, to ignore the plight of others, and to oppose > programs which aid poor people. Please tell me the scripture where Jesus told Christians to acquire great wealth; to ignore the plight of others and to oppose programes to aid poor people. I remember that Jesus did say that we should love our neighbors as ourselves. He told a parable about a man that helped another man that had been the victim of a robbery. Jesus had good things to say about the Good Samaritan--Luke 10:30-37. The Good Samaritan did NOT igonore plight of others and even used his wealth to help that poor man. Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 In article <YwySi.5887$wF3.2147@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>, cactus <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote: > Brian E. Clark wrote: > > In article <5lsqt6F9t8feU1@mid.individual.net>, > > Robibnikoff said... > > > >>> None, now he has to pad his little black book with > >>> personal speculation to keep the faith. > >> So, business as usual, eh? > > > > Indeed so, going all the way back to the beginnings of > > the faith. We're told that when Jesus said he'd return > > within lifetime of his followers, he really meant he'd > > be back sometime in the next several thousand years. > > And curiously, that return is always just around the > > corner, with signs and wonders pointing toward Jesus's > > imminent reappearance. > > > > Such reworking of the material continues today: > > > > When Jesus said 'render unto Caesar,' in a context > > point-on applying to taxation, he really meant > > that Christians should oppose taxation of any kind, > > especially for the rich. > > > > The combination of Jesus's silence regarding > > homosexuality and his plain condemnation of divorce > > shows that Christians should persecute gays and ignore > > divorcers. (C.f., Jesus's silence about abortion.) > > > > When Jesus warned against storing up treasures on > > earth, and directed his followers to help the poor > > even at considerable cost to themselves, he really > > meant that Christians should seek to acquire great > > wealth, to ignore the plight of others, and to oppose > > programs which aid poor people. > > > You all think that Jason has given up on us? Not really--I just prayed for your salvation. I would prefer that your spend eternity in heaven instead of in hell. Quote
Guest Masked Avenger Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 Jason wrote: > In article <YwySi.5887$wF3.2147@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>, cactus > <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote: > >> Brian E. Clark wrote: >>> In article <5lsqt6F9t8feU1@mid.individual.net>, >>> Robibnikoff said... >>> >>>>> None, now he has to pad his little black book with >>>>> personal speculation to keep the faith. >>>> So, business as usual, eh? >>> Indeed so, going all the way back to the beginnings of >>> the faith. We're told that when Jesus said he'd return >>> within lifetime of his followers, he really meant he'd >>> be back sometime in the next several thousand years. >>> And curiously, that return is always just around the >>> corner, with signs and wonders pointing toward Jesus's >>> imminent reappearance. >>> >>> Such reworking of the material continues today: >>> >>> When Jesus said 'render unto Caesar,' in a context >>> point-on applying to taxation, he really meant >>> that Christians should oppose taxation of any kind, >>> especially for the rich. >>> >>> The combination of Jesus's silence regarding >>> homosexuality and his plain condemnation of divorce >>> shows that Christians should persecute gays and ignore >>> divorcers. (C.f., Jesus's silence about abortion.) >>> >>> When Jesus warned against storing up treasures on >>> earth, and directed his followers to help the poor >>> even at considerable cost to themselves, he really >>> meant that Christians should seek to acquire great >>> wealth, to ignore the plight of others, and to oppose >>> programs which aid poor people. >>> >> You all think that Jason has given up on us? > > Not really--I just prayed for your salvation. I would prefer that your > spend eternity in heaven instead of in hell. > > Whew !! ...... For a while there I thought Jason had been Raptured ........ either that or his brain had exploded ...... -- MA ....Yoiks .... and away ..... Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity ............. and I'm not sure about the Universe .......... - A. Einstein Does Schr Quote
Guest Masked Avenger Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 Jason wrote: > In article <MPG.21847ac34147f32e98ab6c@216.196.97.136>, Brian E. Clark > <reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote: > >> In article <5lsqt6F9t8feU1@mid.individual.net>, >> Robibnikoff said... >> >>>> None, now he has to pad his little black book with >>>> personal speculation to keep the faith. >>> So, business as usual, eh? >> Indeed so, going all the way back to the beginnings of >> the faith. We're told that when Jesus said he'd return >> within lifetime of his followers, he really meant he'd >> be back sometime in the next several thousand years. >> And curiously, that return is always just around the >> corner, with signs and wonders pointing toward Jesus's >> imminent reappearance. > > Please tell me which verse you are referring to? > >> Such reworking of the material continues today: >> >> When Jesus said 'render unto Caesar,' in a context >> point-on applying to taxation, he really meant >> that Christians should oppose taxation of any kind, >> especially for the rich. > > I believe he was telling people to pay their taxes. > > >> The combination of Jesus's silence regarding >> homosexuality and his plain condemnation of divorce >> shows that Christians should persecute gays and ignore >> divorcers. (C.f., Jesus's silence about abortion.) > > I don't recall that Jesus was ever asked a question about homosexuality. > Yes, Jesus was not a fan of divorce. He wanted people to remain married to > each other. Back in the 1600's and 1700's--there were not very many > divorces. > > >> When Jesus warned against storing up treasures on >> earth, and directed his followers to help the poor >> even at considerable cost to themselves, he really >> meant that Christians should seek to acquire great >> wealth, to ignore the plight of others, and to oppose >> programs which aid poor people. > > Please tell me the scripture where Jesus told Christians to acquire great > wealth; to ignore the plight of others and to oppose programes to aid poor > people. I remember that Jesus did say that we should love our neighbors as > ourselves. He told a parable about a man that helped another man that had > been the victim of a robbery. Jesus had good things to say about the Good > Samaritan--Luke 10:30-37. The Good Samaritan did NOT igonore plight of > others and even used his wealth to help that poor man. > > Whoosh ......... the sound of the previous post going right over your head ........ The word 'irony' is not in your vocabulary is it ......... -- MA ....Yoiks .... and away ..... Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity ............. and I'm not sure about the Universe .......... - A. Einstein Does Schr Quote
Guest SeppoP Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 Masked Avenger wrote: > Jason wrote: <snip> >> >> Not really--I just prayed for your salvation. I would prefer that your >> spend eternity in heaven instead of in hell. >> >> > > Whew !! ...... For a while there I thought Jason had been Raptured > ........ either that or his brain had exploded ...... > Casting spells is important pastime for fundies. -- Seppo P. What's wrong with Theocracy? (a Finnish Taliban, Oct 1, 2005) Quote
Guest cactus Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 Jason wrote: > In article <YwySi.5887$wF3.2147@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>, cactus > <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote: > >> Brian E. Clark wrote: >>> In article <5lsqt6F9t8feU1@mid.individual.net>, >>> Robibnikoff said... >>> >>>>> None, now he has to pad his little black book with >>>>> personal speculation to keep the faith. >>>> So, business as usual, eh? >>> Indeed so, going all the way back to the beginnings of >>> the faith. We're told that when Jesus said he'd return >>> within lifetime of his followers, he really meant he'd >>> be back sometime in the next several thousand years. >>> And curiously, that return is always just around the >>> corner, with signs and wonders pointing toward Jesus's >>> imminent reappearance. >>> >>> Such reworking of the material continues today: >>> >>> When Jesus said 'render unto Caesar,' in a context >>> point-on applying to taxation, he really meant >>> that Christians should oppose taxation of any kind, >>> especially for the rich. >>> >>> The combination of Jesus's silence regarding >>> homosexuality and his plain condemnation of divorce >>> shows that Christians should persecute gays and ignore >>> divorcers. (C.f., Jesus's silence about abortion.) >>> >>> When Jesus warned against storing up treasures on >>> earth, and directed his followers to help the poor >>> even at considerable cost to themselves, he really >>> meant that Christians should seek to acquire great >>> wealth, to ignore the plight of others, and to oppose >>> programs which aid poor people. >>> >> You all think that Jason has given up on us? > > Not really--I just prayed for your salvation. I would prefer that your > spend eternity in heaven instead of in hell. > > Thanks. Quote
Guest Ralph Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-2010072014580001@67-150-121-178.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > In article <YwySi.5887$wF3.2147@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>, cactus > <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote: > >> Brian E. Clark wrote: >> > In article <5lsqt6F9t8feU1@mid.individual.net>, >> > Robibnikoff said... >> > >> >>> None, now he has to pad his little black book with >> >>> personal speculation to keep the faith. >> >> So, business as usual, eh? >> > >> > Indeed so, going all the way back to the beginnings of >> > the faith. We're told that when Jesus said he'd return >> > within lifetime of his followers, he really meant he'd >> > be back sometime in the next several thousand years. >> > And curiously, that return is always just around the >> > corner, with signs and wonders pointing toward Jesus's >> > imminent reappearance. >> > >> > Such reworking of the material continues today: >> > >> > When Jesus said 'render unto Caesar,' in a context >> > point-on applying to taxation, he really meant >> > that Christians should oppose taxation of any kind, >> > especially for the rich. >> > >> > The combination of Jesus's silence regarding >> > homosexuality and his plain condemnation of divorce >> > shows that Christians should persecute gays and ignore >> > divorcers. (C.f., Jesus's silence about abortion.) >> > >> > When Jesus warned against storing up treasures on >> > earth, and directed his followers to help the poor >> > even at considerable cost to themselves, he really >> > meant that Christians should seek to acquire great >> > wealth, to ignore the plight of others, and to oppose >> > programs which aid poor people. >> > >> You all think that Jason has given up on us? > > Not really--I just prayed for your salvation. I would prefer that your > spend eternity in heaven instead of in hell. Just when I cleaned out my kill-file, along comes the moron again. FOAD, you simple shit! Quote
Guest Free Lunch Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:25:18 -0400, in alt.atheism "Ralph" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote in <IsPSi.6570$N7.1112@bignews7.bellsouth.net>: > >"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >news:Jason-2010072014580001@67-150-121-178.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >> In article <YwySi.5887$wF3.2147@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>, cactus >> <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote: >> >>> Brian E. Clark wrote: >>> > In article <5lsqt6F9t8feU1@mid.individual.net>, >>> > Robibnikoff said... >>> > >>> >>> None, now he has to pad his little black book with >>> >>> personal speculation to keep the faith. >>> >> So, business as usual, eh? >>> > >>> > Indeed so, going all the way back to the beginnings of >>> > the faith. We're told that when Jesus said he'd return >>> > within lifetime of his followers, he really meant he'd >>> > be back sometime in the next several thousand years. >>> > And curiously, that return is always just around the >>> > corner, with signs and wonders pointing toward Jesus's >>> > imminent reappearance. >>> > >>> > Such reworking of the material continues today: >>> > >>> > When Jesus said 'render unto Caesar,' in a context >>> > point-on applying to taxation, he really meant >>> > that Christians should oppose taxation of any kind, >>> > especially for the rich. >>> > >>> > The combination of Jesus's silence regarding >>> > homosexuality and his plain condemnation of divorce >>> > shows that Christians should persecute gays and ignore >>> > divorcers. (C.f., Jesus's silence about abortion.) >>> > >>> > When Jesus warned against storing up treasures on >>> > earth, and directed his followers to help the poor >>> > even at considerable cost to themselves, he really >>> > meant that Christians should seek to acquire great >>> > wealth, to ignore the plight of others, and to oppose >>> > programs which aid poor people. >>> > >>> You all think that Jason has given up on us? >> >> Not really--I just prayed for your salvation. I would prefer that your >> spend eternity in heaven instead of in hell. > >Just when I cleaned out my kill-file, along comes the moron again. FOAD, you >simple shit! > Hey, is that a way to treat an arrogant fool who spent months refusing to learn anything about evolution? Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:14:57 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >Not really--I just prayed for your salvation. I would prefer that your >spend eternity in heaven instead of in hell. Waste of your time. Reality doesn't care what you prefer. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "I am a deeply religious nonbeliever.... This is a somewhat new kind of religion." - Letter to Hans Muehsam March 30, 1954; Einstein Archive 38-434 Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:12:46 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >In article <MPG.21847ac34147f32e98ab6c@216.196.97.136>, Brian E. Clark ><reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote: > >> In article <5lsqt6F9t8feU1@mid.individual.net>, >> Robibnikoff said... >> >> > > None, now he has to pad his little black book with >> > > personal speculation to keep the faith. >> > >> > So, business as usual, eh? >> >> Indeed so, going all the way back to the beginnings of >> the faith. We're told that when Jesus said he'd return >> within lifetime of his followers, he really meant he'd >> be back sometime in the next several thousand years. >> And curiously, that return is always just around the >> corner, with signs and wonders pointing toward Jesus's >> imminent reappearance. > >Please tell me which verse you are referring to? YOU'RE the Christian, why don't YOU know the Bible? > >> >> Such reworking of the material continues today: >> >> When Jesus said 'render unto Caesar,' in a context >> point-on applying to taxation, he really meant >> that Christians should oppose taxation of any kind, >> especially for the rich. > >I believe he was telling people to pay their taxes. Which is why Christians oppose taxation? > > >> >> The combination of Jesus's silence regarding >> homosexuality and his plain condemnation of divorce >> shows that Christians should persecute gays and ignore >> divorcers. (C.f., Jesus's silence about abortion.) > >I don't recall that Jesus was ever asked a question about homosexuality. That's the point. >Yes, Jesus was not a fan of divorce. He wanted people to remain married to >each other. Which is why Christians oppose homosexuality but not divorce? Can't you keep up? > Back in the 1600's and 1700's--there were not very many divorces. Because divorced women had no means of surviving. >> When Jesus warned against storing up treasures on >> earth, and directed his followers to help the poor >> even at considerable cost to themselves, he really >> meant that Christians should seek to acquire great >> wealth, to ignore the plight of others, and to oppose >> programs which aid poor people. >Please tell me the scripture where Jesus told Christians to acquire great >wealth; to ignore the plight of others and to oppose programes to aid poor >people. He DIDN'T. Which is why Christians, today, insist on doing so? > I remember that Jesus did say that we should love our neighbors as >ourselves. He told a parable about a man that helped another man that had >been the victim of a robbery. Jesus had good things to say about the Good >Samaritan--Luke 10:30-37. The Good Samaritan did NOT igonore plight of >others and even used his wealth to help that poor man. > But Christians, today, DO ignore the plight of the poor. IOW, Christianity has nothing to do with obeying Jesus. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "A myth is a fixed way of looking at the world which cannot be destroyed because, looked at through the myth, all evidence supports the myth." - Edward De Bono Quote
Guest Ralph Posted October 22, 2007 Posted October 22, 2007 "Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message news:ieinh3hll1j21jrf0f72op591pctsdsoja@4ax.com... > On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:25:18 -0400, in alt.atheism > "Ralph" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote in > <IsPSi.6570$N7.1112@bignews7.bellsouth.net>: >> >>"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >>news:Jason-2010072014580001@67-150-121-178.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >>> In article <YwySi.5887$wF3.2147@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>, cactus >>> <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Brian E. Clark wrote: >>>> > In article <5lsqt6F9t8feU1@mid.individual.net>, >>>> > Robibnikoff said... >>>> > >>>> >>> None, now he has to pad his little black book with >>>> >>> personal speculation to keep the faith. >>>> >> So, business as usual, eh? >>>> > >>>> > Indeed so, going all the way back to the beginnings of >>>> > the faith. We're told that when Jesus said he'd return >>>> > within lifetime of his followers, he really meant he'd >>>> > be back sometime in the next several thousand years. >>>> > And curiously, that return is always just around the >>>> > corner, with signs and wonders pointing toward Jesus's >>>> > imminent reappearance. >>>> > >>>> > Such reworking of the material continues today: >>>> > >>>> > When Jesus said 'render unto Caesar,' in a context >>>> > point-on applying to taxation, he really meant >>>> > that Christians should oppose taxation of any kind, >>>> > especially for the rich. >>>> > >>>> > The combination of Jesus's silence regarding >>>> > homosexuality and his plain condemnation of divorce >>>> > shows that Christians should persecute gays and ignore >>>> > divorcers. (C.f., Jesus's silence about abortion.) >>>> > >>>> > When Jesus warned against storing up treasures on >>>> > earth, and directed his followers to help the poor >>>> > even at considerable cost to themselves, he really >>>> > meant that Christians should seek to acquire great >>>> > wealth, to ignore the plight of others, and to oppose >>>> > programs which aid poor people. >>>> > >>>> You all think that Jason has given up on us? >>> >>> Not really--I just prayed for your salvation. I would prefer that your >>> spend eternity in heaven instead of in hell. >> >>Just when I cleaned out my kill-file, along comes the moron again. FOAD, >>you >>simple shit! >> > Hey, is that a way to treat an arrogant fool who spent months refusing > to learn anything about evolution? Or about anything else for that matter. I truly believe that Jason is the simplest person I've ever met or a really good Loki troll. Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 22, 2007 Posted October 22, 2007 In article <qcpnh3dahs3ii2n770ei5mf1ecj4sgbitt@4ax.com>, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:12:46 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > >In article <MPG.21847ac34147f32e98ab6c@216.196.97.136>, Brian E. Clark > ><reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote: > > > >> In article <5lsqt6F9t8feU1@mid.individual.net>, > >> Robibnikoff said... > >> > >> > > None, now he has to pad his little black book with > >> > > personal speculation to keep the faith. > >> > > >> > So, business as usual, eh? > >> > >> Indeed so, going all the way back to the beginnings of > >> the faith. We're told that when Jesus said he'd return > >> within lifetime of his followers, he really meant he'd > >> be back sometime in the next several thousand years. > >> And curiously, that return is always just around the > >> corner, with signs and wonders pointing toward Jesus's > >> imminent reappearance. > > > >Please tell me which verse you are referring to? > > YOU'RE the Christian, why don't YOU know the Bible? > > > >> > >> Such reworking of the material continues today: > >> > >> When Jesus said 'render unto Caesar,' in a context > >> point-on applying to taxation, he really meant > >> that Christians should oppose taxation of any kind, > >> especially for the rich. > > > >I believe he was telling people to pay their taxes. > > Which is why Christians oppose taxation? > > > > > >> > >> The combination of Jesus's silence regarding > >> homosexuality and his plain condemnation of divorce > >> shows that Christians should persecute gays and ignore > >> divorcers. (C.f., Jesus's silence about abortion.) > > > >I don't recall that Jesus was ever asked a question about homosexuality. > > That's the point. > > >Yes, Jesus was not a fan of divorce. He wanted people to remain married to > >each other. > > Which is why Christians oppose homosexuality but not divorce? Can't > you keep up? > > > Back in the 1600's and 1700's--there were not very many divorces. > > Because divorced women had no means of surviving. > > >> When Jesus warned against storing up treasures on > >> earth, and directed his followers to help the poor > >> even at considerable cost to themselves, he really > >> meant that Christians should seek to acquire great > >> wealth, to ignore the plight of others, and to oppose > >> programs which aid poor people. > > >Please tell me the scripture where Jesus told Christians to acquire great > >wealth; to ignore the plight of others and to oppose programes to aid poor > >people. > > He DIDN'T. Which is why Christians, today, insist on doing so? > > > > I remember that Jesus did say that we should love our neighbors as > >ourselves. He told a parable about a man that helped another man that had > >been the victim of a robbery. Jesus had good things to say about the Good > >Samaritan--Luke 10:30-37. The Good Samaritan did NOT igonore plight of > >others and even used his wealth to help that poor man. > > > But Christians, today, DO ignore the plight of the poor. > > IOW, Christianity has nothing to do with obeying Jesus. Christians donate millions of dollars per year to feed Children in Africa and in various other countries. Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 22, 2007 Posted October 22, 2007 On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:32:38 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> But Christians, today, DO ignore the plight of the poor. >> IOW, Christianity has nothing to do with obeying Jesus. >Christians donate millions of dollars per year to feed Children in Africa >and in various other countries. Christians are opposed to the increase in SCHIP - money to help the poor. Christians are opposed to welfare - money to help the poor. But "When Jesus warned against storing up treasures on earth, and directed his followers to help the poor even at considerable cost to themselves ..." who are the ones storing up the most treasures today? Christians. Doing exactly what Jesus told you NOT to do. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "I am a deeply religious nonbeliever.... This is a somewhat new kind of religion." - Letter to Hans Muehsam March 30, 1954; Einstein Archive 38-434 Quote
Guest Ralph Posted October 22, 2007 Posted October 22, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-2110072132390001@67-150-174-97.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > In article <qcpnh3dahs3ii2n770ei5mf1ecj4sgbitt@4ax.com>, Al Klein > <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > >> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:12:46 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >> >In article <MPG.21847ac34147f32e98ab6c@216.196.97.136>, Brian E. Clark >> ><reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote: >> > >> >> In article <5lsqt6F9t8feU1@mid.individual.net>, >> >> Robibnikoff said... >> >> >> >> > > None, now he has to pad his little black book with >> >> > > personal speculation to keep the faith. >> >> > >> >> > So, business as usual, eh? >> >> >> >> Indeed so, going all the way back to the beginnings of >> >> the faith. We're told that when Jesus said he'd return >> >> within lifetime of his followers, he really meant he'd >> >> be back sometime in the next several thousand years. >> >> And curiously, that return is always just around the >> >> corner, with signs and wonders pointing toward Jesus's >> >> imminent reappearance. >> > >> >Please tell me which verse you are referring to? >> >> YOU'RE the Christian, why don't YOU know the Bible? >> > >> >> >> >> Such reworking of the material continues today: >> >> >> >> When Jesus said 'render unto Caesar,' in a context >> >> point-on applying to taxation, he really meant >> >> that Christians should oppose taxation of any kind, >> >> especially for the rich. >> > >> >I believe he was telling people to pay their taxes. >> >> Which is why Christians oppose taxation? >> > >> > >> >> >> >> The combination of Jesus's silence regarding >> >> homosexuality and his plain condemnation of divorce >> >> shows that Christians should persecute gays and ignore >> >> divorcers. (C.f., Jesus's silence about abortion.) >> > >> >I don't recall that Jesus was ever asked a question about homosexuality. >> >> That's the point. >> >> >Yes, Jesus was not a fan of divorce. He wanted people to remain married >> >to >> >each other. >> >> Which is why Christians oppose homosexuality but not divorce? Can't >> you keep up? >> >> > Back in the 1600's and 1700's--there were not very many divorces. >> >> Because divorced women had no means of surviving. >> >> >> When Jesus warned against storing up treasures on >> >> earth, and directed his followers to help the poor >> >> even at considerable cost to themselves, he really >> >> meant that Christians should seek to acquire great >> >> wealth, to ignore the plight of others, and to oppose >> >> programs which aid poor people. >> >> >Please tell me the scripture where Jesus told Christians to acquire >> >great >> >wealth; to ignore the plight of others and to oppose programes to aid >> >poor >> >people. >> >> He DIDN'T. Which is why Christians, today, insist on doing so? >> >> >> > I remember that Jesus did say that we should love our neighbors as >> >ourselves. He told a parable about a man that helped another man that >> >had >> >been the victim of a robbery. Jesus had good things to say about the >> >Good >> >Samaritan--Luke 10:30-37. The Good Samaritan did NOT igonore plight of >> >others and even used his wealth to help that poor man. >> > >> But Christians, today, DO ignore the plight of the poor. >> >> IOW, Christianity has nothing to do with obeying Jesus. > > Christians donate millions of dollars per year to feed Children in Africa > and in various other countries. How many dollars do you think the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation contributes to charity? You can also find other atheists who give much to charity. The problem with Christianity is that after you feed them, you preach to them. Quote
Guest Robibnikoff Posted October 22, 2007 Posted October 22, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote snip > Not really--I just prayed for your salvation. I would prefer that your > spend eternity in heaven instead of in hell. You would have been better off reading a book and actually learning something. -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557 Quote
Guest Free Lunch Posted October 22, 2007 Posted October 22, 2007 On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:44:58 -0400, in alt.talk.creationism "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in <5o3uodFktt0mU1@mid.individual.net>: > >"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote > >snip > >> Not really--I just prayed for your salvation. I would prefer that your >> spend eternity in heaven instead of in hell. > >You would have been better off reading a book and actually learning >something. Maybe, but Jason's told us that he has spent decades avoiding learning about anything that doesn't fit with the unsupporable doctrines he believes in. I would guess that he has to unlearn things to keep himself properly deluded. Quote
Guest 655321 Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 In article <Jason-2010072014580001@67-150-121-178.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > I just prayed for your salvation. Don't expect gratitude, you patronizing melonhead. -- 655321 "We are heroes in error" -- Ahmad Chalabi Quote
Guest Kelsey Bjarnason Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 [snips] On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:14:57 -0700, Jason wrote: > Not really--I just prayed for your salvation. I would prefer that your > spend eternity in heaven Why would you wish such a hateful, evil thing upon anyone ? Has your religion caused you so much hatred towards your fellow man you would actually want him to suffer an eternal life, with the endless misery such would bring? Do you really hate us all so much? -- They got the library at Alexandria. They are not getting mine! Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 In article <urp1v4-pev.ln1@spanky.localhost.net>, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote: > [snips] > > On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:14:57 -0700, Jason wrote: > > > Not really--I just prayed for your salvation. I would prefer that your > > spend eternity in heaven > > Why would you wish such a hateful, evil thing upon anyone ? Has your > religion caused you so much hatred towards your fellow man you would > actually want him to suffer an eternal life, with the endless misery > such would bring? Do you really hate us all so much? Not really. People will spend the rest of eternity in hell or heaven. When I pray for the salvation of non-Christians--I feel that I am doing them a favor. I have a question for you. If a man that was a atheist was told by his doctor that he had Parkinson's Disease, would he consider suicide as an option? Most Christians would NOT consider suicide as a option since most Christians believe that killing anyone (even themselves) could cause them to go to hell instead of to heaven. What would the typical atheist do in that situation? What would you do in that situation? Jason Quote
Guest Free Lunch Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:11:09 -0700, in alt.atheism Jason@nospam.com (Jason) trying to make Christians look bad wrote in <Jason-2310071711090001@67-150-124-34.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>: >In article <urp1v4-pev.ln1@spanky.localhost.net>, Kelsey Bjarnason ><kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote: > >> [snips] >> >> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:14:57 -0700, Jason wrote: >> >> > Not really--I just prayed for your salvation. I would prefer that your >> > spend eternity in heaven >> >> Why would you wish such a hateful, evil thing upon anyone ? Has your >> religion caused you so much hatred towards your fellow man you would >> actually want him to suffer an eternal life, with the endless misery >> such would bring? Do you really hate us all so much? > >Not really. People will spend the rest of eternity in hell or heaven. You don't have any evidence that this is the case. >When I pray for the salvation of non-Christians--I feel that I am doing them a >favor. When you tell us about it, you are being a self-righteous jerk. If you must pray for others, Jesus told you to do it silently, not broadcast to everyone how wonderful of a believer you think you are. Jesus made it quite clear that he wasn't remotely impressed by people who acted that way. >I have a question for you. If a man that was a atheist was told by his >doctor that he had Parkinson's Disease, would he consider suicide as an >option? For Parkinson's? Why? > >Most Christians would NOT consider suicide as a option since most >Christians believe that killing anyone (even themselves) could cause them >to go to hell instead of to heaven. What would the typical atheist do in >that situation? What would you do in that situation? Once more, your smug ignorance of anyone who isn't a "Christian" like you is incredible irritating and insulting to those who are both Christian and not Christian. You act like the Pharisees that were condemned in the Gospels (even though the Pharisees of the Gospels are mocking parodies of the Pharisees found in history). -- "Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn." -- Augustine, The Literal Meaning of Genesis Quote
Guest 655321 Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 In article <Jason-2310071711090001@67-150-124-34.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > In article <urp1v4-pev.ln1@spanky.localhost.net>, Kelsey Bjarnason > <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote: > > > [snips] > > > > On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:14:57 -0700, Jason wrote: > > > > > Not really--I just prayed for your salvation. I would prefer that your > > > spend eternity in heaven > > > > Why would you wish such a hateful, evil thing upon anyone ? Has your > > religion caused you so much hatred towards your fellow man you would > > actually want him to suffer an eternal life, with the endless misery > > such would bring? Do you really hate us all so much? > > Not really. People will spend the rest of eternity in hell or heaven. I see you continue to be a hypocrite. You accuse skeptics of being closed-minded when it comes to creation "science," yet you still believe that there are two possibilities for a person after he or she has died. > When I pray for the salvation of non-Christians--I feel that I am > doing them a favor. You are deceiving yourself. Your tiny-minded patronizing is an irritant. > I have a question for you. If a man that was a atheist was told by his > doctor that he had Parkinson's Disease, would he consider suicide as an > option? Dunno. Ask the man. > Most Christians would NOT consider suicide as a option since most > Christians believe that killing anyone (even themselves) could cause them > to go to hell instead of to heaven. Arrogant fool. I don't believe that you have any grasp on what "Most Christians" would do under any circumstances. > What would the typical atheist do in that situation? You want me (or any of the other atheist posters here) to be as arrogant as you are? > What would you do in that situation? You are not worth the energy. -- 655321 "We are heroes in error" -- Ahmad Chalabi Quote
Guest Ralph Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-2310071711090001@67-150-124-34.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > In article <urp1v4-pev.ln1@spanky.localhost.net>, Kelsey Bjarnason > <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote: > >> [snips] >> >> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:14:57 -0700, Jason wrote: >> >> > Not really--I just prayed for your salvation. I would prefer that your >> > spend eternity in heaven >> >> Why would you wish such a hateful, evil thing upon anyone ? Has your >> religion caused you so much hatred towards your fellow man you would >> actually want him to suffer an eternal life, with the endless misery >> such would bring? Do you really hate us all so much? > > Not really. People will spend the rest of eternity in hell or heaven. When > I pray for the salvation of non-Christians--I feel that I am doing them a > favor. > > I have a question for you. If a man that was a atheist was told by his > doctor that he had Parkinson's Disease, would he consider suicide as an > option? > > Most Christians would NOT consider suicide as a option since most > Christians believe that killing anyone (even themselves) could cause them > to go to hell instead of to heaven. What would the typical atheist do in > that situation? What would you do in that situation? > > Jason You think this is an attribute? This stupid religious 'morality' has forced millions of people to suffer slow miserable deaths and leave them no way out. Let me tell you something you sniveling little bastard! My father died from emphysema. I had x-rays taken today to see if I have developed emphysema. If I have I will certainly consider my family and my quality of life when I make a decision. Go fuck you and your worthless god, you miserable little son of a bitch! Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 In article <2m4th3pufduaj3b7la3c7sfahggrqpqtk3@4ax.com>, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:11:09 -0700, in alt.atheism > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) trying to make Christians look bad wrote in > <Jason-2310071711090001@67-150-124-34.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>: > >In article <urp1v4-pev.ln1@spanky.localhost.net>, Kelsey Bjarnason > ><kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> [snips] > >> > >> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:14:57 -0700, Jason wrote: > >> > >> > Not really--I just prayed for your salvation. I would prefer that your > >> > spend eternity in heaven > >> > >> Why would you wish such a hateful, evil thing upon anyone ? Has your > >> religion caused you so much hatred towards your fellow man you would > >> actually want him to suffer an eternal life, with the endless misery > >> such would bring? Do you really hate us all so much? > > > >Not really. People will spend the rest of eternity in hell or heaven. > > You don't have any evidence that this is the case. > > >When I pray for the salvation of non-Christians--I feel that I am doing them a > >favor. > > When you tell us about it, you are being a self-righteous jerk. If you > must pray for others, Jesus told you to do it silently, not broadcast to > everyone how wonderful of a believer you think you are. Jesus made it > quite clear that he wasn't remotely impressed by people who acted that > way. > > >I have a question for you. If a man that was a atheist was told by his > >doctor that he had Parkinson's Disease, would he consider suicide as an > >option? > > For Parkinson's? Why? > > > >Most Christians would NOT consider suicide as a option since most > >Christians believe that killing anyone (even themselves) could cause them > >to go to hell instead of to heaven. What would the typical atheist do in > >that situation? What would you do in that situation? > > Once more, your smug ignorance of anyone who isn't a "Christian" like > you is incredible irritating and insulting to those who are both > Christian and not Christian. You act like the Pharisees that were > condemned in the Gospels (even though the Pharisees of the Gospels are > mocking parodies of the Pharisees found in history). You failed to answer my simple question--Would you consider suicide if your doctor told you that had Parkinson's Disease? Quote
Guest Charles & Mambo Duckman Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Jason wrote: > I have a question for you. If a man that was a atheist was told by his > doctor that he had Parkinson's Disease, would he consider suicide as an > option? Hell, I am an atheist and I am considering suicide as an option right now. And every other time I read your tripe. > Most Christians would NOT consider suicide as a option until it's their ass, then all bets are off. Most Christians are hypocrites, after all. -- Come down off the cross We can use the wood Tom Waits, Come On Up To The House Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.