Guest 655321 Posted October 26, 2007 Posted October 26, 2007 Jason wrote: > In article <j054i3dhlftoblqivi18vmco5ms9uckqbf@4ax.com>, Al Klein > <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:44:28 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >>> In article >>> <DipthotDipthot-FEA202.19041425102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, >>> 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: >>>> What you "honestly believe" has no bearing on what is . >>> That's true. However, what you "honestly believe" does have bearing on >>> your own life. If you end up in hell, it will be your own fault. >> The fact that you "honestly believe" that hell exists has no bearing >> on the FACT that it doesn't. > > You can NOT prove that hell does not exist. There is no need to do so. -- 655321 Quote
Guest 655321 Posted October 26, 2007 Posted October 26, 2007 Jason wrote: > In article > <DipthotDipthot-A067C2.19085325102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, > 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > >> In article >> <Jason-2510071534500001@67-150-173-216.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >>> In article <jgs6v4-bu1.ln1@spanky.localhost.net>, Kelsey Bjarnason >>> <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> [snips] >>>> >>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:53:51 -0700, Jason wrote: >>>> >>>>>> 1. God hates your self-righeousness and sends you to hell for being so >>>>>> smug. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. The god that controls the afterlife hates the God you worship and >>>>>> sends all of His followers to hell while giving a paradise to those who >>>>>> ignore gods and the afterlife. >>>>>> You claim to be correct but don't have a shred of evidence to support >>>>>> your doctrines. >>>> >>>>> Even if I am wrong--I have lost nothing. >>>> He just pointed out where you lose. Where you get sent to hell for >>>> believing the wrong god, or believing the right one by being smug >>>> about it. >>> I'm not worried about any of those issues. >> Why not? > I don't buy in to the above mentioned criticisms. In other words, you pick and choose the terms of your cult that satisfy your own selfish, vain desires. You endeavor to conceive of a god that smiles on your behavior, that has a seat reserved for you in your own privately-conceived notion of heaven. When confronted by any elements of doctrine that don't suit you, you simply "don't buy in" and all is fine and dandy. -- 655321 Quote
Guest 655321 Posted October 26, 2007 Posted October 26, 2007 Robibnikoff wrote: > "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:Jason-2510072338470001@66.53.220.126... >> In article >> <DipthotDipthot-A067C2.19085325102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, >> 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: >> >>> In article >>> <Jason-2510071534500001@67-150-173-216.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >>> >>>> In article <jgs6v4-bu1.ln1@spanky.localhost.net>, Kelsey Bjarnason >>>> <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> [snips] >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:53:51 -0700, Jason wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> 1. God hates your self-righeousness and sends you to hell for >>>>>>> being so >>>>>>> smug. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. The god that controls the afterlife hates the God you worship >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> sends all of His followers to hell while giving a paradise to >>>>>>> those who >>>>>>> ignore gods and the afterlife. >>>>>>> You claim to be correct but don't have a shred of evidence to >>>>>>> support >>>>>>> your doctrines. >>>>>> Even if I am wrong--I have lost nothing. >>>>> He just pointed out where you lose. Where you get sent to hell for >>>>> believing the wrong god, or believing the right one by being smug >> about it. >>>> I'm not worried about any of those issues. >>> Why not? >> I don't buy in to the above mentioned criticisms. > > Why not? Afraid of thinking outside of your religion? It's not outside of the religion per se; it's outside of his desired configuration of the religion: He's a Jasonian Jebus-Frottagist. Congregation membership: 1. -- 655321 Quote
Guest 655321 Posted October 26, 2007 Posted October 26, 2007 Jason wrote: > For several months, I watched such a preacher It's good to keep you confined to a seat in front of the TeeVee. -- 655321 Quote
Guest 655321 Posted October 26, 2007 Posted October 26, 2007 Jason wrote: > In article <ofo3i35thlg3ch75hq6ut7hdos2jdqv75s@4ax.com>, Al Klein > <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:20:16 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >>> Good point. My Time Almanac does not have any statistics related to the >>> number of atheists in America in 1950 compared to 2005. I also could not >>> find those statistics on the internet. >>> >>> Do you believe there is now a higher percentage of atheists in America >>> than there was in 1950? I do >> Based on what? The number of bumper stickers you see? >> >> Ask almost any Christian and he'll tell you that atheism is still a >> tiny minority in this country. > > I hope those Christians are correct. I doubt if those Christians that > believe that live in California. We went to a high school football game > last week and saw about a dozen teenagers smoking marijuana on school > property. When I was in high school in the the 1960's--none of us even > smoked marijuana. We would have gotten kicked out school if any teacher > even seen us drinking a beer on school property. Are you saying Christians don't drink beer or smoke pot? -- 655321 Quote
Guest 655321 Posted October 26, 2007 Posted October 26, 2007 Jason wrote: > In article > <DipthotDipthot-E7F8AB.19010825102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, > 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > >> In article >> <Jason-2510071543440001@67-150-173-216.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >>> In article <ri42i31cnals55vemp5nlhe06vrved6dm3@4ax.com>, Al Klein >>> <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:32:18 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >>>> >>>>> In article <tpednXamOYnARoPanZ2dnUVZ_vWtnZ2d@comcast.com>, Charles > & Mambo >>>>> Duckman <duckman@gfy.slf> wrote: >>>>>> Jason wrote: >>>>>>> Most Christians would NOT consider suicide as a option >>>>>> until it's their ass, then all bets are off. Most Christians are >>>>>> hypocrites, after all. >>>>> I now understand one of the reasons the child and teen suicide rates rose >>>>> for the first time in more than a decade. >>>> The recent rise in Christianity? >>> No--the rise in the number of atheists now in the world. I live in >>> California and you would be amazed at the number of atheist related bumper >>> stickers that I have seen in recent years. >> Yet again, you demonstrate your impeccable "research" techniques. Did >> your TeeVee liar tell you it's okay to use bumper stickers as a means of >> demographic study? > > Good point. I'll take that as a yes. > My Time Almanac does not have any statistics related to the > number of atheists in America in 1950 compared to 2005. I also could not > find those statistics on the internet. So what led you to conclude that it was the case? Oh, yeah, bumper stickers. Do you not have the tiniest bit of self-awareness? Can't you see exactly how unfit you are to argue about nearly everything? > Do you believe there is now a higher percentage of atheists in America > than there was in 1950? I do As you should know by now, what you believe is of little to no value. As for me... I won't even venture to guess. Doesn't matter to me anyway. -- 655321 Quote
Guest Free Lunch Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:43:22 -0700, in alt.atheism Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in <Jason-2610071543220001@67-150-120-210.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>: >In article <4mp4i3d63j3r5dci0m8dfh86qccgiar7ia@4ax.com>, Free Lunch ><lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:51:35 -0700, in alt.atheism >> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in >> <Jason-2610071451350001@67-150-120-210.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>: >> >In article <5oegghFlmll8U1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" >> ><witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: >> > >> >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> >> >> >> >> snip >> >> >> >> > I guess they could move to that state where doctors are allowed to >legally >> >> > kill them. Is the name of that state Oregon? They are trying to pass that >> >> > same law in California. Believe it or not, I hope they make it legal for >> >> > doctors to kill patients that are in terrible pain that want to die. >> >> >> >> But that's against your religion. >> > >> >My father had lung cancer and heart disease. He had lots of PAIN and >> >SUFFERING durung the last two months of his life. It would have been much >> >better if a doctor committed mercy killing. Unless you had a relative that >> >died in that sort of condition--I don't expect you or anyone else to agree >> >with me. >> > >> I think the point that people are trying to make to you is that this is >> one place where you are surprisingly undogmatic -- but only because the >> death of your father helped humanize you. When it comes to any other >> human weakness, you are incredibly unforgiving. Why can't you manage to >> bring your understanding of mercy killing to other areas of life -- add >> a little more gray to your otherwise black and white view of the world. >> >> It strikes me that you are understanding of the weaknesses of humans >> only when those weaknesses strike you or those near you. That is sad. > >I have NO compassion for murderers or child molestors. I have no >compassion for dope pushers or dope users. Mercy killing is VERY different >than first degree murder. No doubt, but I wasn't talking about that. For example, you've been very intolerant of any people who don't control their natural sexual urges in a voluntary setting as well as you think they ought to. What possible right do you have to condemn those people? Quote
Guest Ralph Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-2610071510080001@67-150-120-210.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > In article <8mu3i35qkek5nlctf0ldq9vkskibitref9@4ax.com>, Free Lunch > <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:42:35 -0700, in alt.atheism >> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in >> <Jason-2510072343160001@66.53.220.126>: >> >In article <4qm7v4-bu1.ln1@spanky.localhost.net>, Kelsey Bjarnason >> ><kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> [snips] >> >> >> >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:49:28 -0700, Jason wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Atheists also don't see crises in a lot of situations in which >> >> >> theists >> >> >> do. >> >> >> >> > They have many crisis situations such as getting fired from their >> >> > jobs; >> >> > flunking out of college; their mates walking out on them or cheating >> >> > on >> >> > them; >> >> >> >> Sorry, why would any of those be a "crisis"? Those would be, at most, >> >> annoyances. >> >> >> >> > being told by their doctors they have cancer and only 3 or less >> >> > months to live etc. >> >> >> >> This one might qualify. >> > >> >Would finding your girl friend in bed with your best friend qualify? >> > >> No. Once again, you don't understand people or the causes of suicide or >> the fact the religiosity doesn't prevent it. > > I disagree. I have heard cases about young girls committing suicide when > their boyfriends were caught having sex or even kissing another young > girl. I agree that many men would not even care. They would find a new > girl friend. You're too damn stupid to agree you ignorant son of a bitch! Quote
Guest Ralph Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-2510072350120001@66.53.220.126... > In article <v1g2i3t16c5uicvrtdtm5j7asedlgma1q3@4ax.com>, Al Klein > <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:49:28 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >> >In article <rf42i3d6uhkktth4gpor9i1p60m1ba18ne@4ax.com>, Al Klein >> ><rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: >> > >> >> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:07:18 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >> >> >> >I honestly believe that atheists are more likely to commit suicide in >> >> >a >> >> >crisis situation than a Christian. >> >> >> >> Which is why a greater percentage of suicides are theists than >> >> atheists? >> > >> >Many pastors no longer teach the truth about what the Bible states about >> >murder and various other commandments. The head pastor of the largest >> >church in America rarely even discusses the Bible in his sermons. He is >> >more like a psychologist than a preacher. His last sermon was related to >> >self esteem. He has a weekly television show. >> >> You're playing bagpipes. "Christianity" doesn't have "Jason" in it. >> >> >> > The reason I believe it is because most >> >> >Christians would fear going to hell if they committed suicide. >> >> >Atheists >> >> >don't believe in hell or heaven so many of them would commit suicide >> >> >to >> >> >end that crisis situation. >> >> >> Atheists also don't see crises in a lot of situations in which theists >> >> do. >> >> >They have many crisis situations such as getting fired from their jobs; >> >flunking out of college; their mates walking out on them or cheating on >> >them; being told by their doctors they have cancer and only 3 or less >> >months to live etc. >> >> But not worrying about sin. Not worrying about hell. Not worrying >> about godly retribution. >> >> And not worrying about being worthless little worms, which is what >> Christian kids are taught they are. > > Related to worms--an atheist told me in a recent post that we will all > will be eaten by worms when we die and after that--that will be the end of > our existence. > > Telling little children the above information would probably cause some of > them to commit suicide after their first crisis. Why bother living if that > it all we have to look forward to when we die. I guess we can just tell them that the father of their "Lord and Savior", will burn them in hell, you ignorant bastard! Quote
Guest Free Lunch Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:21:51 -0700, in alt.atheism Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in <Jason-2610071721510001@67-150-121-1.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>: >In article <b705i3tat38lfmm1ghq6s652on2pvfm1hq@4ax.com>, Free Lunch ><lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:43:22 -0700, in alt.atheism >> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in >> <Jason-2610071543220001@67-150-120-210.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>: >> >In article <4mp4i3d63j3r5dci0m8dfh86qccgiar7ia@4ax.com>, Free Lunch >> ><lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> > >> >> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:51:35 -0700, in alt.atheism >> >> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in >> >> <Jason-2610071451350001@67-150-120-210.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>: >> >> >In article <5oegghFlmll8U1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" >> >> ><witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> snip >> >> >> >> >> >> > I guess they could move to that state where doctors are allowed to >> >legally >> >> >> > kill them. Is the name of that state Oregon? They are trying to >pass that >> >> >> > same law in California. Believe it or not, I hope they make it >legal for >> >> >> > doctors to kill patients that are in terrible pain that want to die. >> >> >> >> >> >> But that's against your religion. >> >> > >> >> >My father had lung cancer and heart disease. He had lots of PAIN and >> >> >SUFFERING durung the last two months of his life. It would have been much >> >> >better if a doctor committed mercy killing. Unless you had a relative that >> >> >died in that sort of condition--I don't expect you or anyone else to agree >> >> >with me. >> >> > >> >> I think the point that people are trying to make to you is that this is >> >> one place where you are surprisingly undogmatic -- but only because the >> >> death of your father helped humanize you. When it comes to any other >> >> human weakness, you are incredibly unforgiving. Why can't you manage to >> >> bring your understanding of mercy killing to other areas of life -- add >> >> a little more gray to your otherwise black and white view of the world. >> >> >> >> It strikes me that you are understanding of the weaknesses of humans >> >> only when those weaknesses strike you or those near you. That is sad. >> > >> >I have NO compassion for murderers or child molestors. I have no >> >compassion for dope pushers or dope users. Mercy killing is VERY different >> >than first degree murder. >> >> No doubt, but I wasn't talking about that. For example, you've been very >> intolerant of any people who don't control their natural sexual urges in >> a voluntary setting as well as you think they ought to. What possible >> right do you have to condemn those people? > >I let them to whatever they want to do. If people ask for my advice, I >tell them my point of view. I once was jogging in a local park. I saw two >people laying on a blanket under a tree and they appeared to me naked. I >continued jogging and did not bother them. I have had several changes to >have sex outside of marriage. One of my female co-workers wanted to have >sex with me and I told her that I was not interested in having sex outside >of marriage. I later found out that she was having sex with several other >co-workers. >Jason > Your currently-described tolerance has not come through in some of your postings. Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 In article <b705i3tat38lfmm1ghq6s652on2pvfm1hq@4ax.com>, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:43:22 -0700, in alt.atheism > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in > <Jason-2610071543220001@67-150-120-210.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>: > >In article <4mp4i3d63j3r5dci0m8dfh86qccgiar7ia@4ax.com>, Free Lunch > ><lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:51:35 -0700, in alt.atheism > >> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in > >> <Jason-2610071451350001@67-150-120-210.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>: > >> >In article <5oegghFlmll8U1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" > >> ><witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> > >> >> > >> >> snip > >> >> > >> >> > I guess they could move to that state where doctors are allowed to > >legally > >> >> > kill them. Is the name of that state Oregon? They are trying to pass that > >> >> > same law in California. Believe it or not, I hope they make it legal for > >> >> > doctors to kill patients that are in terrible pain that want to die. > >> >> > >> >> But that's against your religion. > >> > > >> >My father had lung cancer and heart disease. He had lots of PAIN and > >> >SUFFERING durung the last two months of his life. It would have been much > >> >better if a doctor committed mercy killing. Unless you had a relative that > >> >died in that sort of condition--I don't expect you or anyone else to agree > >> >with me. > >> > > >> I think the point that people are trying to make to you is that this is > >> one place where you are surprisingly undogmatic -- but only because the > >> death of your father helped humanize you. When it comes to any other > >> human weakness, you are incredibly unforgiving. Why can't you manage to > >> bring your understanding of mercy killing to other areas of life -- add > >> a little more gray to your otherwise black and white view of the world. > >> > >> It strikes me that you are understanding of the weaknesses of humans > >> only when those weaknesses strike you or those near you. That is sad. > > > >I have NO compassion for murderers or child molestors. I have no > >compassion for dope pushers or dope users. Mercy killing is VERY different > >than first degree murder. > > No doubt, but I wasn't talking about that. For example, you've been very > intolerant of any people who don't control their natural sexual urges in > a voluntary setting as well as you think they ought to. What possible > right do you have to condemn those people? I let them to whatever they want to do. If people ask for my advice, I tell them my point of view. I once was jogging in a local park. I saw two people laying on a blanket under a tree and they appeared to me naked. I continued jogging and did not bother them. I have had several changes to have sex outside of marriage. One of my female co-workers wanted to have sex with me and I told her that I was not interested in having sex outside of marriage. I later found out that she was having sex with several other co-workers. Jason Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 In article <hBuUi.60792$Um6.3614@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net>, 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > Jason wrote: > > In article <ofo3i35thlg3ch75hq6ut7hdos2jdqv75s@4ax.com>, Al Klein > > <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:20:16 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > >> > >>> Good point. My Time Almanac does not have any statistics related to the > >>> number of atheists in America in 1950 compared to 2005. I also could not > >>> find those statistics on the internet. > >>> > >>> Do you believe there is now a higher percentage of atheists in America > >>> than there was in 1950? I do > >> Based on what? The number of bumper stickers you see? > >> > >> Ask almost any Christian and he'll tell you that atheism is still a > >> tiny minority in this country. > > > > I hope those Christians are correct. I doubt if those Christians that > > believe that live in California. We went to a high school football game > > last week and saw about a dozen teenagers smoking marijuana on school > > property. When I was in high school in the the 1960's--none of us even > > smoked marijuana. We would have gotten kicked out school if any teacher > > even seen us drinking a beer on school property. > > Are you saying Christians don't drink beer or smoke pot? > -- > 655321 No Quote
Guest Ralph Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-2610071459450001@67-150-120-210.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > In article <5oefv7Fmlc5cU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" > <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote >> >> snip >> > >> > Related to worms--an atheist told me in a recent post that we will all >> > will be eaten by worms when we die and after that--that will be the end >> > of >> > our existence. >> > >> > Telling little children the above information would probably cause some >> > of >> > them to commit suicide after their first crisis. Why bother living if >> > that >> > it all we have to look forward to when we die. >> >> Is life really that meaningless to you unless there's a reward at the >> end? >> That's sad. > > Many people fear death. Most Christians do NOT fear death since they know > they have heaven to look forward to when they die. I am actully looking > forward to seeing my sister and parents when I die. I don't fear death. If > I was an athest--I would truly fear death since I would know that I would > be spending eternity in hell. I'm looking also forward to you seeing them, you sniveling son of a bitch. Please let me know if there is anyway in the world that I can possibly help you. If you were an atheist. you ignorant ass, you would be comfortable in knowing that the deep sleep is the end. There are no ghosts, hoots, haunts or gods. As much consternation as you cause others I don't think you will even make it to hell. Quote
Guest Ralph Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-2610071506460001@67-150-120-210.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > In article <5oefr6Fmc840U1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" > <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:Jason-2510071549280001@67-150-173-216.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >> > In article <rf42i3d6uhkktth4gpor9i1p60m1ba18ne@4ax.com>, Al Klein >> > <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: >> > >> >> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:07:18 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >> >> >> >I honestly believe that atheists are more likely to commit suicide in >> >> >a >> >> >crisis situation than a Christian. >> >> >> >> Which is why a greater percentage of suicides are theists than >> >> atheists? >> > >> > Many pastors no longer teach the truth about what the Bible states >> > about >> > murder and various other commandments. >> >> How would you know? > > For several months, I watched such a preacher (Joel Osteem) preach sermons > on his weekly television show. On one Sunday, he preached about how a > person could raise their self esteem (pop psychology). On another Sunday, > he preached about how to avoid having depression (pop psychology). He > reminded me of Doctor Phil. I enjoyed his sermons but his sermons were NOT > related to the Bible or Christian doctrines. Many pastors preach those > sorts of sermons. My pastor preaches sermons based on the Bible and > Christian Doctrines. My favorite television preacher is John Hagee. > Jason > Jason We don't give a shit who your favorite preacher is. Can you get that thought your tiny mind, you worthless bastard. Quote
Guest Ralph Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-2510072345080001@66.53.220.126... > In article > <DipthotDipthot-FEA202.19041425102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, > 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: > >> In article >> <Jason-2410071607180001@67-150-124-72.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >> > I honestly believe that atheists are more likely to commit suicide in a >> > crisis situation than a Christian. >> >> What you "honestly believe" has no bearing on what is . > > That's true. However, what you "honestly believe" does have bearing on > your own life. If you end up in hell, it will be your own fault. You chicken-shit son of a bitch, come out from your anonymity so I can get a good read on you. Quote
Guest Ralph Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-2610071512060001@67-150-120-210.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > In article <j054i3dhlftoblqivi18vmco5ms9uckqbf@4ax.com>, Al Klein > <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:44:28 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >> >In article >> ><DipthotDipthot-FEA202.19041425102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, >> >655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: >> >> >> What you "honestly believe" has no bearing on what is . >> >> >That's true. However, what you "honestly believe" does have bearing on >> >your own life. If you end up in hell, it will be your own fault. >> >> The fact that you "honestly believe" that hell exists has no bearing >> on the FACT that it doesn't. > > You can NOT prove that hell does not exist. Sure we can, you pitiful prick, we can prove your bible is not the 'wordagod', we prove your god is false therefore the hell you fear doesn't exist. Quote
Guest Ralph Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-2510071543440001@67-150-173-216.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > In article <ri42i31cnals55vemp5nlhe06vrved6dm3@4ax.com>, Al Klein > <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:32:18 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >> >In article <tpednXamOYnARoPanZ2dnUVZ_vWtnZ2d@comcast.com>, Charles & >> >Mambo >> >Duckman <duckman@gfy.slf> wrote: >> >> Jason wrote: >> >> >> > Most Christians would NOT consider suicide as a option >> >> >> until it's their ass, then all bets are off. Most Christians are > hypocrites, >> >> after all. >> >> >I now understand one of the reasons the child and teen suicide rates >> >rose >> >for the first time in more than a decade. >> >> The recent rise in Christianity? > > No--the rise in the number of atheists now in the world. I live in > California and you would be amazed at the number of atheist related bumper > stickers that I have seen in recent years. I'll have to "PLONK" this sorry son of a bitch again. I thought he was gone by the way this thread disappeared but he came back, I can't stand people like Jason, who are willfully obtuse. I is a worthless son of a bitch and I would really like to bring him out from his computer. Don't think he would be as stupid in person as he plays in this NG. See you guys in other threads. Quote
Guest The Chief Instigator Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 Jason@nospam.com (Jason) writes: >In article <5oefv7Fmlc5cU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" ><witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote >> snip >> > Related to worms--an atheist told me in a recent post that we will all >> > will be eaten by worms when we die and after that--that will be the end of >> > our existence. >> > Telling little children the above information would probably cause some of >> > them to commit suicide after their first crisis. Why bother living if that >> > it all we have to look forward to when we die. >> Is life really that meaningless to you unless there's a reward at the end? >> That's sad. >Many people fear death. Most Christians do NOT fear death since they know >they have heaven to look forward to when they die. I am actully looking >forward to seeing my sister and parents when I die. I don't fear death. If >I was an athest--I would truly fear death since I would know that I would >be spending eternity in hell. You'd know ? Not bloody likely - and it's the whackjobs like you that decide that it's perfectly all right to butcher anyone who doesn't believe as you do, because your sky pixie said it was all right. (Spanish Inquisition, anyone?) Your alleged god is YOUR business. Kindly keep it to yourself. -- Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2007-08 Houston Aeros) AA#2273 LAST GAME: Houston 6, San Antonio 5 (SO) (October 19) NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 27 at San Antonio, 7:05 Quote
Guest The Chief Instigator Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 Jason@nospam.com (Jason) writes: >In article <j054i3dhlftoblqivi18vmco5ms9uckqbf@4ax.com>, Al Klein ><rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:44:28 -0700, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >In article >> ><DipthotDipthot-FEA202.19041425102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>, >> >655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: >> >> What you "honestly believe" has no bearing on what is . >> >That's true. However, what you "honestly believe" does have bearing on >> >your own life. If you end up in hell, it will be your own fault. >> The fact that you "honestly believe" that hell exists has no bearing >> on the FACT that it doesn't. >You can NOT prove that hell does not exist. You can't prove that it does exist. That means you're too mentally lazy to provide any proof except what supports your convenient fantasy. -- Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2007-08 Houston Aeros) AA#2273 LAST GAME: Houston 6, San Antonio 5 (SO) (October 19) NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 27 at San Antonio, 7:05 Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 In article <pyvUi.46627$c9.30065@bignews8.bellsouth.net>, "Ralph" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote: > "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:Jason-2610071459450001@67-150-120-210.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > > In article <5oefv7Fmlc5cU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" > > <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > > > >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote > >> > >> snip > >> > > >> > Related to worms--an atheist told me in a recent post that we will all > >> > will be eaten by worms when we die and after that--that will be the end > >> > of > >> > our existence. > >> > > >> > Telling little children the above information would probably cause some > >> > of > >> > them to commit suicide after their first crisis. Why bother living if > >> > that > >> > it all we have to look forward to when we die. > >> > >> Is life really that meaningless to you unless there's a reward at the > >> end? > >> That's sad. > > > > Many people fear death. Most Christians do NOT fear death since they know > > they have heaven to look forward to when they die. I am actully looking > > forward to seeing my sister and parents when I die. I don't fear death. If > > I was an athest--I would truly fear death since I would know that I would > > be spending eternity in hell. > > I'm looking also forward to you seeing them, you sniveling son of a bitch. > Please let me know if there is anyway in the world that I can possibly help > you. If you were an atheist. you ignorant ass, you would be comfortable in > knowing that the deep sleep is the end. There are no ghosts, hoots, haunts > or gods. As much consternation as you cause others I don't think you will > even make it to hell. But what if you are wrong and I am right? If you are always correct, I suggest that you go to Las Vegas. You could make over a million dollars per day. Quote
Guest Charles & Mambo Duckman Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 Jason wrote: > Many atheists will end up in hell. While in hell, they will hear other > people say that no Christians ever warned them about hell. None of the > people that read this post or my last 5 posts will ever be able to say > that no Christian ever warned them about hell. If you or anyone else ends > up in hell, you can't blame me for not warning you about hell. There you have it, like I said: reading your tripe makes me want to kill myself. There's only so much bullshit a man can absorb. -- Come down off the cross We can use the wood Tom Waits, Come On Up To The House Quote
Guest Mike Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 Jason wrote: > Many people fear death. Most Christians do NOT fear death since they know > they have heaven to look forward to when they die. They why the prohibition on killing yourself? If there really was this heaven, why should getting there sooner be a sin? I am actully looking > forward to seeing my sister and parents when I die. And if they wound up being in hell instead of heaven like you think, then what? You'll be in heaven and watching them suffering in hell and be what? Happy? You can't be sad since it's heaven and everyone's happy in heaven. So you'll be happy to be watching them suffer, right? You're really sick, you know that? I don't fear death. If > I was an athest--I would truly fear death since I would know that I would > be spending eternity in hell. Clue-time: atheists can't be fearful of "death since they would know that they would be spending eternity in hell." since atheists don't believe in hell, either. Are you really that stupid on top of being that sadistic? Quote
Guest Mike Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 Jason wrote: > In article <pyvUi.46627$c9.30065@bignews8.bellsouth.net>, "Ralph" > <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote: >> I'm looking also forward to you seeing them, you sniveling son of a bitch. >> Please let me know if there is anyway in the world that I can possibly help >> you. If you were an atheist. you ignorant ass, you would be comfortable in >> knowing that the deep sleep is the end. There are no ghosts, hoots, haunts >> or gods. As much consternation as you cause others I don't think you will >> even make it to hell. > > But what if you are wrong and I am right? And what if you're both wrong and Cthulhu is the real god who condemns all those who believe in a false god to eternal torture and rewards those who don't bow down before other gods with eternal happiness? But of course you'll ignore this question like you always do. Quote
Guest Mike Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 Jason wrote: > > I challenge you I challenge you to actually be honest for a change. Quote
Guest Mike Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 Free Lunch wrote: > On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:51:35 -0700, in alt.atheism > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in > <Jason-2610071451350001@67-150-120-210.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>: >> In article <5oegghFlmll8U1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" >> <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: >> >>> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> >>> >>> snip >>> >>>> I guess they could move to that state where doctors are allowed to legally >>>> kill them. Is the name of that state Oregon? They are trying to pass that >>>> same law in California. Believe it or not, I hope they make it legal for >>>> doctors to kill patients that are in terrible pain that want to die. >>> But that's against your religion. >> My father had lung cancer and heart disease. He had lots of PAIN and >> SUFFERING durung the last two months of his life. It would have been much >> better if a doctor committed mercy killing. Unless you had a relative that >> died in that sort of condition--I don't expect you or anyone else to agree >> with me. >> > I think the point that people are trying to make to you is that this is > one place where you are surprisingly undogmatic -- but only because the > death of your father helped humanize you. When it comes to any other > human weakness, you are incredibly unforgiving. Why can't you manage to > bring your understanding of mercy killing to other areas of life -- add > a little more gray to your otherwise black and white view of the world. > > It strikes me that you are understanding of the weaknesses of humans > only when those weaknesses strike you or those near you. That is sad. Well said. I just find it odd that Jason can condone mercy killing but yet still thinks that if the person killed themselves (instead of a doctor killing them) they'd be doomed to eternal torment. Quote
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