Guest Robibnikoff Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-3010071857410001@66-53-209-232.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > In article <fg8g0r$2jh$01$2@news.t-online.com>, Tokay Pino Gris > <tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net> wrote: > >> Jason wrote: >> > In article <fg84j1$hmc$00$2@news.t-online.com>, Tokay Pino Gris >> > <tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net> wrote: >> > >> >> Jason wrote: >> >>> In article <fg7la3$h1k$00$2@news.t-online.com>, Tokay Pino Gris >> >>> <tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Jason wrote: >> >>>>> In article <fg6k9n$i7e$03$3@news.t-online.com>, Tokay Pino Gris >> >>>>> <tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Jason wrote: >> >>>>>>> In article <8YmdnUGVWrg5ULvanZ2dnUVZ_uninZ2d@comcast.com>, >> >>>>>>> Charles >> > & Mambo >> >>>>>>> Duckman <duckman@gfy.slf> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Jason wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Prove that there was a primordial pond. Tell me the exact >> >>>>>>>>>>> location >> >>>>> of the >> >>>>>>>>>>> primordial pond. >> >>>>>>>>>> Earth. >> >>>>>>>>> Be more specific. >> >>>>>>>> Third planet from the Sun, Solar system, Milky Way Galaxy. >> >>>>>>> If you can't tell me the location of the primordial pond, don't >> > expect me >> >>>>>>> to tell you the location of heaven. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> He did. And I did. Earth. The ocean. Which then pretty much > covered the >> >>>>>> whole globe. I'd have thought you'd jump at that. Big flood and >> >>>>>> all. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Tokay >> >>>>> Heaven is in another dimension. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> What is a dimension? >> >>>> >> >>>> Tokay >> >>> Google dimension >> >>> >> >>> >> >> I KNOW what a dimension is. Do you? >> >> >> >> >> >> Tokay >> > >> > try this term: alternate reality >> > >> > >> >> Totally different term. WHAT is a dimension? >> >> >> Tokay > > I don't know which dimension in which heaven is located. Then what makes you think it's located in another dimension? -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557 Quote
Guest Robibnikoff Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote snip > The problem in that case was that Terry Shiavo did NOT have a living will > and also failed to tell the many members of her family what she wanted the > members of her family to do if she was ever in a comma. First of all, the word you're looking for is "coma". Second of all, she apparently made her wishes clear to her husband and that's all that matters. -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557 Quote
Guest Robibnikoff Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> I read a story the other day about a > couple that aborted their baby since it had "Down's Syndorom". My husband and I discussed what we'd do if we found out I was carrying a Down's Syndrome baby - We'd terminate the pregnancy. -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557 Quote
Guest Robibnikoff Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-3010071246080001@66-53-215-221.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > In article <5ooq5lFnlvkbU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" > <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote >> >> snip] >> > >> > no--as you probably know--Christians don't follow all of the laws in >> > the >> > Old Testament. >> >> Thank goodness for that. >> >> BTW, if all the world was christian, what would be your plans for >> stopping >> the different sects of christianity from making war upon each other? > > There may be some wars but nothing like the wars that envolve the use of > nuclear weapons. You don't know that - You're just guessing. -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557 Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:59:10 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >God is the judge of people and I am NOT the final judge. I don't know >whether or not God would allow someone into heaven that committed >suicide--regardless of the circumstances. I know that there are some >preachers that believe that God will not allow anyone into heaven that >commits suicide. Since I don't know for sure how God judges cases of >suicide, I don't advise anyone to ever commit suicide. I would not ever >even consider committing suicide for that reason. >Doctors that commit mercy killings are a different situation. It's my >opinion that mercy killing on patients that are near death and in terrible >pain--are not committing sin but instead are showing love and compassion. >I would advise those doctors to ask for forgiveness each day for their >sins just in case God considers their actions to be sinful. The person asking the doctor to end his life is committing suicide, so you wouldn't advise anyone to commit suicide, but you'd advise a doctor to assist someone in committing suicide. If you don't realize how utterly contradictory and - I hesitate to use the word 'stupid', because your position is nowhere near that intelligent ... -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:03:12 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >In article <fg264g$636$5@news04.infoave.net>, Mike ><prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: > >> Jason wrote: >> > Not really, if a person was told by their doctor that they only had two >> > months to live--I would not have any negative things to say to that person >> > if that person told me that he planned to commit suicide since he was had >> > terrible pain and agony. >> > >> > However, if I was in that same situation, I would not kill myself. >> >> Why not? Wouldn't it get you to heaven that much faster? >> >> > Do you see the difference? >> >> Yes, we see the difference. The problem is that the difference points >> out how stupidly illogical you are. > >Each Christian has to make judgement calls related to their actions on a >regular basis. I am not responsible for making judgement calls for other >Christians. I have neighbors that are jehovah's witnesses. Their judgement >calls would be different than my judgement calls. For example, as far as >they are concerned--getting a transfusion (blood) is sinful to them. I >don't consider transfusions of blood to be sinful. And that doesn't point out to you how stupidly illogical religious belief is? -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:06:45 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >In article <fg25dn$636$2@news04.infoave.net>, Mike ><prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: >> And if your belief or faith is wrong? Then what? Cthuhlu eats your soul, >> that's what. >I am not concerned about Cthuhlu, Baal or the Moon God. So why should Cthulu be concerned about you? You're just more crunchies. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:14:54 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >In article <JpWUi.2412$%Z2.1074@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>, cactus ><cactus@nonespam.com> wrote: >> Jason wrote: >> > Christians are allowed to shop or not shop at various stores. >> But their preachers tell them not to do business with companies that >> employ homosexuals. >Preachers can say almost anything they want to say. They have freedom of >speech. Where does it say that in the Bible? (We're not talking about the law here, we're talking about the strictures of Christianity.) >The yellow pages have ads and in some cases there are fish symbols displayed >in some of the ads. Christians like myself are more likely to call those >businesses and visit those stores. Fish and Christians have something in common - lack of reasoning ability. >> > If I lived in Ireland, I would not take part in any war. >> What does Ireland have to do with anything in this discussion? >The Protestants and Catholics in Ireland have been at war with each other >for hundreds of years. And you would, voluntarily or otherwise, be taking part in that war. (In Northern Ireland, BTW - that's not the same as Ireland.) Not making a decision is sometimes making a decision. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:12:55 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >In article <oothv4-o1n.ln1@spanky.localhost.net>, Kelsey Bjarnason ><kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:18:04 -0400, James Beck wrote: >> >> > In article <Jason-2910071114400001@67-150-122-25.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >> > Jason@nospam.com says... >> >> In article <5omfbiFnmodfU2@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" >> >> <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote >> >> > >> >> > snip >> >> > > >> >> > > There is a heaven and there is a hell. >> >> > >> >> > Then prove it. >> >> >> >> Prove that there was a primordial pond. Tell me the exact location of the >> >> primordial pond. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Seen an ocean? >> > Do you think those just popped up recently? >> >> Well yes, actually, about 4004 BC. It was a Tuesday, if I recall >> correctly... > >Can I use your time machine? > Can you say "straw man"? -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:37:54 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >In article <8YmdnUGVWrg5ULvanZ2dnUVZ_uninZ2d@comcast.com>, Charles & Mambo >Duckman <duckman@gfy.slf> wrote: > >> Jason wrote: >> >> >>>Prove that there was a primordial pond. Tell me the exact location of the >> >>>primordial pond. >> >> >> >>Earth. >> > >> > >> > Be more specific. >> >> Third planet from the Sun, Solar system, Milky Way Galaxy. > >If you can't tell me the location of the primordial pond Since it covered the entire planet, "Earth" is a good location. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:19:31 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >Heaven is in another dimension. Then it's unreachable by us and can't have any effect on us, so it makes no difference to us. (You'll really have to try harder, Jason. You post the seeds for the destruction of what you post.) -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 >> Totally different term. WHAT is a dimension? >I don't know which dimension in which heaven is located. This is an >article IOW, you have no idea what you're talking about, but you think that quoting an article that appears to have something to do with the question (but actually doesn't) will get people off your back. You're WILLFULLY a moron, Jason, and no one is going to forget that just because you found a totally irrelevant site to copy from, yet you keep doing that over and over. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:13:20 -0400, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: >"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >news:Jason-3010071857410001@66-53-209-232.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >> I don't know which dimension in which heaven is located. >Then what makes you think What leads you to believe that he can? -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:50:13 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >No--I was letting you know my opinion related to the location of heaven. We're not asking for your opinion. You claimed to KNOW where it's located, so post that location. If it's in "another dimension", WHICH ONE and WHERE, in that dimension? >I plan to go to heaven when I die a physical death. It's a real place. Then it has a real location, so tell us where it is. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:02:32 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >In article <TJ-dnd7YzYABNbranZ2dnUVZ_s3inZ2d@comcast.com>, Charles & Mambo >Duckman <duckman@gfy.slf> wrote: > >> Jason wrote: >> >> > location: another dimension >> >> Which one? >> What evidence do you have to support your hypothesis? >> How did you come up with it? >> When will you be publishing it in a scientific journal? >> What will you do with the money from the Nobel prize for physics? > >I googled "dimension" and read an article about the fourth and fift >dimension. I don't know which dimension that heaven is located. Then you can't know that it IS located "in another dimension", unless "another dimension" actually means "in Jason's imagination". -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:03:25 GMT, 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote: >> location: another dimension >That's not a location. That's a fanciful concept. You know, like the >god concept. No, dimensions actually exist. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:50:25 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >Would you prefer to spend eternity in heaven or in hell? Would you (a male human being) prefer to spend your life as a woman or a woodchuck? Your question makes even less sense. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:13:34 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >Instead of having to put up with God--you will have to put up with Satan. Why would anyone HAVE to put up with EITHER figment of your imagination? -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest James Beck Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 In article <fg8fvc$2jh$01$1@news.t-online.com>, tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net says... > James Beck wrote: > > In article <fg839s$fa9$00$1@news.t-online.com>, tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net > > says... > >> James Beck wrote: > >>> In article <fg7q88$9kt$02$1@news.t-online.com>, tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net > >>> says... > >>>> James Beck wrote: > >>>>> In article <fg7l98$h1k$00$1@news.t-online.com>, tokay.gris.beau@gmx..net > >>>>> says... > >>>>>> Jason wrote: > >>>>>>> In article <8MqdnQZ7eIgkT7vanZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com>, Charles & Mambo > >>>>>>> Duckman <duckman@gfy.slf> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Jason wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Prove that there was a primordial pond. Tell me the exact location of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> primordial pond. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Earth. > >>>>>>>>>>> Be more specific. > >>>>>>>>>> Third planet from the Sun, Solar system, Milky Way Galaxy. > >>>>>>>>> If you can't tell me the location of the primordial pond, don't expect me > >>>>>>>>> to tell you the location of heaven. > >>>>>>>> I gave you the location. What do you expect me to do, give you coordinates > >>>>>>>> of an event that happened before the continents formed, merged, separated, > >>>>>>>> merged again, separated again, etc? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Now that you have the location of the primordial pond neatly narrowed down > >>>>>>>> to a particular planet out of the Universe billions of light years across, > >>>>>>>> give me a rough idea where "heaven" is. Next door to Nirvana? Two blocks > >>>>>>>> south of Hades? Three miles NE of Valhalla, exit 167? > >>>>>>> Heaven is in another dimension. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Ah, he gets specific. Now we are into the sci-fi realm. And/or actual > >>>>>> science. So far, the best "idea" ("M-theory") is that there are 11 > >>>>>> dimensions. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> But I guess you don't even know what a "dimension" is? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Used in the sci-fi-sense, it is a different place. Which is bullshit, of > >>>>>> course. Scientifically or better yet, mathematically, it is rather > >>>>>> easy (for mathematicians at least. Not for me) to calculate many > >>>>>> dimensions. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ok, lets say, we mix up the dimensions of M-theory with the > >>>>>> sci-fi-dimensions. You have 7 to choose from (four are already taken). > >>>>>> Which one? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Tokay > >>>>>> > >>>>> Time isn't REALLY a dimension. > >>>>> Not a spatial one, > >>>> Of course it is not spatial. There are only 3 spatial dimensions. > >>> Maybe...... > >>> > >>>> like you guys are referring to. > >>>>> Calling it the 4th dimension was just a mental crutch to make things > >>>>> easier to explain. > >>>> It works out quite well in spacetime of Einstein... > >>> Yep, and he admitted that the usage was playing a bit fast and loose > >>> with terminology. > >>> > >>>> But ok. He can chose from eight, if he likes, because three are taken. > >>>> And ignore time as a dimension. > >>> Well, if he chooses the 11th, he better lose some weight. > >>> According to one of the brane theorists, the 11th is where gravity leaks > >>> to us from. In that dimension, gravity would be the dominant force and > >>> over ride electrical forces. > >> I stand corrected. You obviously know more about it than I do. I watched > >> a BBC-documentary about M-theory, but that is about my knowledge or it.. > >> > >> (I NEED more time to read all the stuff I want to read and learn all the > >> stuff I want to learn...) > >> > >>>> (I rather think that time works as a dimension. Well, in theory of > >>>> spacetime. Maybe you are correct and it just makes things easier to > >>>> explain. But I don't see any other way to explain the phenomena we see > >>>> regarding light. But well, I am no astrophysicist) > >>>> > >>>> Tokay > >>> If time is occurring in quanta then the speed of light is just because > >>> you can only travel a maximum of one Planck length per tick....hmmmmmm > >>> crazy idea number 335. Maybe we are in "The Matrix"......... > >> I am a certified SciFi-nut. And a sometime (though nothing published) > >> writer. This could actually be used in a novel... hm. Time in quanta.... > >> hm. That would mean that there is a "smallest, indivisible part of > >> time"... which COULD mean, that there is another world slightly > >> offset... which could open up an nice background piece... have to think > >> about it... > >> > >> Like in this TV-series "sliders" or in "The Number of the Beast" from > >> Heinlein or even .... Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:09:01 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >If you are wrong, I will be spending eternity in heaven and you will be >spending eternity in hell--unless you become a Christian before you die. If your only reason for "accepting Jesus" is to go to heaven, you have a god who's even less intelligent than you are. Even a 10 year old kid would see through that. If we're BOTH wrong (since there are about 10 zillion possible gods, your being wrong is 10 zillion times more likely than your being right) ... AND the real god sends Christians to hell and atheists to heaven, YOU LOSE! And with the possible number of gods, it's MUCH more likely (about half a zillion times more likely) that the real one, if there is one, hates sanctimonious religions like Christianity, but doesn't mind people who think for themselves, like atheists, so your chances of burning for eternity are pretty good, and our chances of a peaceful life in heaven without Christians is just as good. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:06:13 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >They are false gods ALL gods are false gods. > so why should anyone pay attention to them. Exactly, Jason, why should anyone pay attention to ANY gods? -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:11:31 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >The world would be a much better place if everyone in the world was a Christian. It >would end all wars. Tell that to the people who are dying in a TOTALLY CHRISTIAN was in Northern Ireland. The world would be much better off if everyone were atheist. Atheists don't kill atheists for lacking belief in the wrong god. >The money that is spent on wars and weapons could be >spent to feed all of the hungry people in the world such as in the Sudan. The money spent on RELIGION could be spent to feed all of the hungry people in the world such as in the Sudan. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest James Beck Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 In article <Jason-3010071834440001@66-53-209-232.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... > > The major difference is that nuclear weapons were not used in any of those > wars. If Iran starts an assembly line for nuclear weapons, millions of > people in various cities will be killed. More people will die in one year > than died in all of those wars that you mentioned in your post. The only > option is to destroy the nuclear facilities in Iran before (not after) > they start producing dozens of nuclear weapons per year. Read this report: > > Please answer this question: Do you want to allow a religious nut case to > have total control over dozens of nuclear tipped missiles? > Shit man, we have had religious nut cases in charge of hundreds of them, right here in this country. Do you REALLY think that the US would not have used every weapon at its disposal during those conflicts? Remember, the United States of America, a predominantly christian nation, is the ONLY nation to detonate a nuclear weapon over a populated area and we did it TWICE. I'm not saying that the call was wrong, but that's not the point here, is it? Jim Quote
Guest James Beck Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 In article <fga0li$ir$1@news04.infoave.net>, prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com says... > James Beck wrote: > > Time isn't REALLY a dimension. > > Not a spatial one, like you guys are referring to. > > Calling it the 4th dimension was just a mental crutch to make things > > easier to explain. > > Time IS a dimension that is indistinguishable, in most, if not all, > ways, from the other 3. There's no "mental crutch" here. > > If it isn't the same IN ALL WAYS as other dimensions, then it isn't one. When you can go backwards in time as easily as I can reverse my direction on a road, I'll buy into it. Time is not a spatial dimension. Jim Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:43:23 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >The 10 commandments are the only laws from the Old Testament that most >Christians pay any attention to. AND the Levitical and other condemnations of homosexual acts, which Christianity has perverted to condemnation of homosexuality itself. AND (in many sects), the ownership of every woman by some man. And many others. This is called LYING, Jason. >For example, many of the laws are related to animals. Imagine >the trouble that Christians could get into if we stoned someone to death >for committing adultery. Imagine the trouble Christians could get into if you tried to keep a woman from entering an abortion clinic. Imagine the trouble you could get into if you tried to force schools to teach Cretinism as science, instead of the stupidity it really is. Imagine the trouble you could get into if you tried to force a policy of "abstinence only". Imagine the trouble you could get into by doing just about anything that your warped ideas about what Christianity is tell you to do, while totally ignoring what Christianity really is. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
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