Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:45:05 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >In article <MPG.219164b74f6f3d4698a28d@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James >Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: >> That still does not explain away all the bible thumpers (you know, your >> compatriots) that had to throw in their opinion where is wasn't wanted >> or needed. >Everyone has free speech. A) Free speech or not, their opinions (and that's all they were) were unwanted and unneeded. 2) They can speak, but their words have no bearing on the matter, since her HUSBAND was the only one with the legal (and moral) right to make the decision. Your Bible says so: Matt 19:5, Mk 10:7. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:05:10 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >In article <fg5te3$89h$02$3@news.t-online.com>, Tokay Pino Gris ><tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net> wrote: >> Jason wrote: >> > The option is for people to watch their relatives spend several weeks or >> > even several months dying in terrible pain and agony. I watched my father >> > die in pain and agony of lung cancer. I wish that a doctor would have >> > committed a mercy killing. >> Why didn't you do it? >I was 12 years old. There were several people in the hospital room. If I >had been an adult, I probably would have found a way to do it--perhaps by >unhooking one of the machines that were keeping him alive. Did your father ask to die? If not, unhooking the machine would have been murder, plain and simple, even if there had been an assisted suicide law on the books. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:39:00 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >In article <fg62qn$gno$03$4@news.t-online.com>, Tokay Pino Gris ><tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net> wrote: >> Therefor killing him and therefor going to your "hell". Not my >> reasoning. Yours. >My daddy was dying in terrible pain and agony. If you have never been in >that sort of situation, I don't expect you to understand. I have never >killed anyone or ever helped anyone commit suicide. IOW, you can rationalize away anything you want to rationalize away. (And, yes, I've been in the situation 4 times - both parents and 2 wives. And didn't rationalize it in any way.) -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:23:52 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >There is at least one case were murder is not a crime and in my opinion is >not a sin. That case is justifiable homicide. Since justifiable homicide is not murder, murder is still ALWAYS a crime. (It's DEFINED as being one.) >I believe that mercy killing >by a medical doctor should be considered to be justifiable homicide. In >one state, it's legal for doctors to conduct mercy killings. No it's not. It's legal for doctors to assist people in committing suicide - which isn't any form of homicide, so it's not justifiable homicide. Learn the difference between killing someone and assisting someone in committing suicide. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:30:26 -0400, James Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: >Jason judges his self worth by the actions of others, so he thinks I sincerely doubt that. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:35:52 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >I don't think your Christianity is doing you or your friends and family any favors. Christianity does the world favors - when it kills ReligioFascists of any stripe. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln Quote
Guest Mike Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 Al Klein wrote: > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:10:46 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason > <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote: > >> [snips] >> >> On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:48:12 -0800, Jason wrote: >> >>>> So, why would you choose to let NYC be nuked? Are you really persuaded >>>> that NYC is a den of iniquity and that God wants it nuked? >>> Of the options you provided, it was my favorite. >> Of course it would; you're a member of a death cult and this is the only >> option that allows the death of 8+ million people, rather than one or a >> few. > > And Jason believes that only COMISSIONS are sins - that doing nothing > can't be a sin. And, in that case, he should be willing to sit back and watch Iran bomb Israel. "Hypocrisy, thy name is 'Jason.'" Unless - IN HIS SOLE OPINION - his god would want him > to kill millions. Then that's not a sin either. > > The kind of "Christian" that should be locked in a rubber room with > the door welded shut. Like Shrub. Quote
Guest Mike Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 James Beck wrote: > In article <fga0li$ir$1@news04.infoave.net>, prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com > says... >> James Beck wrote: >>> Time isn't REALLY a dimension. >>> Not a spatial one, like you guys are referring to. >>> Calling it the 4th dimension was just a mental crutch to make things >>> easier to explain. >> Time IS a dimension that is indistinguishable, in most, if not all, >> ways, from the other 3. There's no "mental crutch" here. >> >> > If it isn't the same IN ALL WAYS as other dimensions, then it isn't one. > When you can go backwards in time as easily as I can reverse my > direction on a road, I'll buy into it. Time is not a spatial dimension. I didn't say it was a spacial dimension. I said "Time IS a dimension." North isn't a temporal dimension but it's still a dimension. There are 4 dimensions, even if they aren't all the same type. You were correct in saying "Not a spatial one" but the term "dimension" doesn't have to mean "spatial." The word "dimension", in topology, means "a magnitude that, independently or in conjunction with other such magnitudes, serves to define the location of an element within a given set, as of a point on a line, an object in a space, or an event in space-time." There is no difference between "north", "south", "east", "west", "future", "past", etc. there. Quote
Guest Cj Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote stuff snipped for bandwidth > I am not talking in circles. I have stated in various posts that the > reason people (or even children) develop HIV--it's because they came into > contact with blood. The reason the nurse developed HIV is because she came > into contact with blood. Most all dentists, doctors and nurses now wear > rubber gloves to keep from coming into contact with blood. I always make > sure I see the doctor, nurse or dentist put on new rubber gloves before I > let them touch me. My dentist not only wears gloves but also wears a mask > to cover his mouth and nose while working on patients. The reason that is > much safer to have normal sex with a woman instead of anal sex--is because > during normal sex--blood usually does not transfer from one person to the > other person. I posted a report indicating that one of the main reasons > that so many woman in Africa have developed AIDS is because lots of people > in Africa have anal sex. > Jason Lots of people in Africa have anal sex? Is this your sole purpose in life? Please repeat your citation, I missed it. Cj Quote
Guest The Chief Instigator Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes: >"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message >news:Jason-3010071234070001@66-53-215-221.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >> In article <5ooqgmFnnh1aU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" >> <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: >>> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote >>> snip >>> > If you can't tell me the location of the primordial pond, don't expect >>> > me to tell you the location of heaven. >>> Jason, you can't tell us the location of heaven because you know it >>> doesn't exist. Just admit it. >> location: another dimension >Prove it. Jason apparently spends most of his average day in an unknown dimension. -- Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2007-08 Houston Aeros) AA#2273 LAST GAME: Syracuse 3, Houston 2 (October 30) NEXT GAME: Friday, November 2 vs. Lake Erie, 7:35 Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 In article <gtahi31b7fnaj3mpb8deh2kbfgcau1mj46@4ax.com>, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:10:58 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > >I have seen pictures of at least of Iran's nuclear facilities on a > >television news show. > > Have you seen pictures of US nuclear facilities? (I live within the > 10 mile evacuation zone of one.) > > What's the difference? The president of Iran stated "Israel must be wiped off from the map of the world." A nuclear missile will allow him to do exactly what he stated that he wants to do. Unless you are brain dead, you should now realize the reason Iran has invested millions of dollars to develop nuclear materials. Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 In article <2a9hi39vves7avml54f2nac83bvoacdb3c@4ax.com>, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:34:44 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > >The major difference is that nuclear weapons were not used in any of those > >wars. > > They WERE used - by THE UNITED STATES - the ONLY time they were used > in war. ONLY CHRISTIANS are, so far, responsible for unleashing > nuclear weapons. > > > If Iran starts an assembly line for nuclear weapons > > You're willing to wipe out MILLIONS of people on an "if"? > > >Please answer this question: Do you want to allow a religious nut case to > >have total control over dozens of nuclear tipped missiles? > > ABSOLUTELY NOT! Get Nukes out of the hands of Bush and Cheney. (Well > ... Cheney probably isn't as nutty as Bush, but still ...) > > (And please stop quoting made up fantasies of other morons. Post your > own words or don't post.) If Iran is allowed to develop hundreds of nuclear weapons, millions of people in various large cities will be killed. Would you prefer to destroy the nuclear facilities in Iran or allow millions of people in various countries to be killed? Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 In article <l79hi3tc5n5ncp4440nt82vhvijdm0pqgj@4ax.com>, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:32:06 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > >If you believe that the president of Iran is making nuclear materials to > >be used for peaceful purposes > > The SCIENTISTS who have inspected the facilities KNOW he is. Nuclear materials can be used to make nuclear weapons. Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 In article <6apgi3pvsi29udtp33jq2a8327did677k5@4ax.com>, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:14:12 -0800, in alt.atheism > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in > <Jason-3110070014130001@66-53-216-130.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>: > >In article <rerfi3t5pv3k2qhdbm3al2lf3euv2qmt0k@4ax.com>, Free Lunch > ><lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:40:45 -0800, in alt.atheism > >> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in > >> <Jason-3010071840450001@66-53-209-232.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>: > >> >In article <b2ffi3977f2ct8n01jdcgsribsqs85un4q@4ax.com>, Free Lunch > >> ><lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:46:08 -0800, in alt.talk.creationism > >> >> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in > >> >> <Jason-3010071246080001@66-53-215-221.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>: > >> >> >In article <5ooq5lFnlvkbU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" > >> >> ><witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote > >> >> >> > >> >> >> snip] > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > no--as you probably know--Christians don't follow all of the > >laws in the > >> >> >> > Old Testament. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Thank goodness for that. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> BTW, if all the world was christian, what would be your plans for > >> >stopping > >> >> >> the different sects of christianity from making war upon each other? > >> >> > > >> >> >There may be some wars but nothing like the wars that envolve the use of > >> >> >nuclear weapons. Iran is presently making nuclear materials and once they > >> >> >start making several nuclear weapons per year--not a single large city in > >> >> >the world is safe to live in. It would be very easy to smuggle a nuclear > >> >> >weapon into America and even easier to smuggle a nuclear weapon into > >> >> >England or France. > >> >> > > >> >> Thank you for showing us that you are stupid and bigoted. You are just > >> >> repeating the same old lies that the rabid right told us about the > >> >> Soviet Union and Red China. Notice that neither country ever attacked us > >> >> and there is no reason for us to think Iran will either. > >> > > >> >The president of Iran and one of the chief clerics in Iran both have > >> >stated that they want to use nuclear weapons against Israel. > >> > >> No, they did not. > >> > >> >As you know, > >> >we are obligated to protect Israel since they are an ally of America. > > > >http://www.iran-press-service.com/articles_2001/dec_2001/rafsanjani_nuke_threats_141201.htm > > > >The president of Iran stated: "Israel must be wiped off from the map of > >the world." Needless to say, several nuclear missles fired at Israel > >would allow the president of Iran to do exactly what he said that he wants > >to do. > > Since he strongly supports the Palestinians, maybe you are intentionally > misrepresenting what he means by this. He wants the area to become > Palestine. Nuclear weapons would destroy Palestinians. > > >RAFSANJANI SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST ISRAEL > > > >TEHRAN 14 Dec. (IPS) One of Iran Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 In article <leahi319r50tea720ajlukkn9hhlc65p99@4ax.com>, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:40:45 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > >The president of Iran and one of the chief clerics in Iran both have > >stated that they want to use nuclear weapons against Israel. > > The US has said that it wants to eradicate Islam. > > > As you know, > >we are obligated to protect Israel since they are an ally of America. > > Since there's been no attack, there's nothing to defend. "Defending" > against an attack that MAY happen, some nebulous time in the future, > is known as "attacking", and we're NOT obligated to START a war. (That > we've done it a few times doesn't mean that there's any treaty that > obligates us to do it.) I am shocked that so many atheists have so much trust in religious nut cases like the president of Iran and one of the chief clerics in Iran. Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 In article <fs8hi3p9uicde8hc9npmclr6r0cr3o7424@4ax.com>, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:00:34 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > >I disagree. Roy Mooore worships God. > > Then why did he violate the law in an attempt to place a rock in a > court house? You usually make no sense, Jason, but this is stupid > even for you. I have heard Roy Moore preach a sermon and he mentioned in that sermon that he worships God. Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 In article <fg9u50$uav$1@news04.infoave.net>, Mike <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: > Jason wrote: > > In article <fg7db2$d3d$1@news04.infoave.net>, Mike > > <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: > > > >> Jason wrote: > >>> The 10 commandments are the only laws from the Old Testament that most > >>> Christians pay any attention to. Most of those laws are unrelated to life > >>> in America. For example, many of the laws are related to animals. Imagine > >>> the trouble that Christians could get into if we stoned someone to death > >>> for committing adultery. > >> Ok, Jason, let's see how much attention you pay to the 10 commandments > >> (and possibly get you to finally understand that there is no "one right > >> answer" in all circumstances.) > >> > >> There is a religious group (doesn't matter who other than they aren't > >> xians) who have become convinced that a 2 year old living in NY is the > >> "antichrist" of their religion. They are desperate to kill this child or > >> have it killed. They don't care about what penalty they'd pay and, other > >> than this, they are a very peaceful group. They have repeatly tried, at > >> great expense of money and life, to kill this child. > >> > >> They have taken control of a nuclear sub and have several children as > >> hostages in the sub. The sub is in 300' of water off the coast of NY. > >> They know the launch codes for the nukes. There is no way possible to > >> get the children out of the sub and dropping depth charges will kill all > >> on board. You are in charge of the naval ships that could drop such charges. > >> > >> They have sent a demand to you: Personally kill the child on live TV by > >> 5:00pm, at which time we will surface the sub and surrender, or we > >> launch a nuke on NYC which will kill the child and then we will surface > >> and surrender. Based on your knowledge of the religion, etc. you know > >> that they will keep their word on the surrender. > >> > >> Now your only options are: > >> > >> 1: Kill the child yourself. > >> > >> 2: Drop depth charges on the sub, killing them but also killing several > >> children on board. > >> > >> 3: Do nothing and let them nuke NYC, thus killing the child as well as > >> many others. > >> > >> NO other options (such as "we won't vote at all and just pray that a > >> rescue ship comes by and gets us before we all die of thirst." or "I'll > >> wait to see if I can get a clear shot.") are available. > >> > >> What are you going to do? > >> > >> Personally, I'd kill the child. I wouldn't be happy at all about it and > >> would probably need therapy for the rest of my life, but I'd see no > >> other choice. > >> > >> Occasionally, you have no other choice but to kill an innocent person. > > > > I would do nothing. > > So you would allow millions of people to die because you're too scared > to do anything. But yet you'd take deliberate action and kill thousands > of innocents in Iran by bombing them even when there's not as imminent > of a threat to Israel. How hypocritical of you. You should have provided better options. For example, I could ask you: Would you choose to kill your wife or your son? Either one of those choices is a bad choice. Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 In article <fgabm7$cfl$1@news04.infoave.net>, Mike <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: > Al Klein wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:10:46 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason > > <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> [snips] > >> > >> On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:48:12 -0800, Jason wrote: > >> > >>>> So, why would you choose to let NYC be nuked? Are you really persuaded > >>>> that NYC is a den of iniquity and that God wants it nuked? > >>> Of the options you provided, it was my favorite. > >> Of course it would; you're a member of a death cult and this is the only > >> option that allows the death of 8+ million people, rather than one or a > >> few. > > > > And Jason believes that only COMISSIONS are sins - that doing nothing > > can't be a sin. > > And, in that case, he should be willing to sit back and watch Iran bomb > Israel. "Hypocrisy, thy name is 'Jason.'" > > Unless - IN HIS SOLE OPINION - his god would want him > > to kill millions. Then that's not a sin either. > > > > The kind of "Christian" that should be locked in a rubber room with > > the door welded shut. Like Shrub. Was one of the choices to destroy the nuclear facilites? Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 In article <5orgquFoc38tU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote > snip > > The problem in that case was that Terry Shiavo did NOT have a living will > > and also failed to tell the many members of her family what she wanted the > > members of her family to do if she was ever in a comma. > > First of all, the word you're looking for is "coma". Second of all, she > apparently made her wishes clear to her husband and that's all that matters. He was probably lying. Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 In article <ivbhi3pdi8u37pkidlrjhq1qpcdq5m5e1e@4ax.com>, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:05:10 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > >In article <fg5te3$89h$02$3@news.t-online.com>, Tokay Pino Gris > ><tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net> wrote: > >> Jason wrote: > > >> > The option is for people to watch their relatives spend several weeks or > >> > even several months dying in terrible pain and agony. I watched my father > >> > die in pain and agony of lung cancer. I wish that a doctor would have > >> > committed a mercy killing. > > >> Why didn't you do it? > > >I was 12 years old. There were several people in the hospital room. If I > >had been an adult, I probably would have found a way to do it--perhaps by > >unhooking one of the machines that were keeping him alive. > > Did your father ask to die? If not, unhooking the machine would have > been murder, plain and simple, even if there had been an assisted > suicide law on the books. It's no longer an issue. I don't know whether or not he wanted to end his life by spending three weeks in a hospital bed having great amounts of pain and agony. Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 In article <-OudnZVJxJw2W7XanZ2dnUVZ_uSgnZ2d@gwi.net>, "Cj" <cwalt@gwi.net> wrote: > "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote > > stuff snipped for bandwidth > > > I am not talking in circles. I have stated in various posts that the > > reason people (or even children) develop HIV--it's because they came into > > contact with blood. The reason the nurse developed HIV is because she came > > into contact with blood. Most all dentists, doctors and nurses now wear > > rubber gloves to keep from coming into contact with blood. I always make > > sure I see the doctor, nurse or dentist put on new rubber gloves before I > > let them touch me. My dentist not only wears gloves but also wears a mask > > to cover his mouth and nose while working on patients. The reason that is > > much safer to have normal sex with a woman instead of anal sex--is because > > during normal sex--blood usually does not transfer from one person to the > > other person. I posted a report indicating that one of the main reasons > > that so many woman in Africa have developed AIDS is because lots of people > > in Africa have anal sex. > > Jason > > Lots of people in Africa have anal sex? Is this your sole purpose in life? > Please repeat your citation, I missed it. > Cj I did not save that report. I found it by conducting a google search for "Anal Sex Africa" and got lots of hits. The report indicated that it's common for African men to have anal sex with women. That is one of the many reasons that just as many women as men have AIDS. That is not the case in American and many other countries--other than Africa. Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 In article <5orgofFoc0p3U1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:Jason-3010071857410001@66-53-209-232.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > > In article <fg8g0r$2jh$01$2@news.t-online.com>, Tokay Pino Gris > > <tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net> wrote: > > > >> Jason wrote: > >> > In article <fg84j1$hmc$00$2@news.t-online.com>, Tokay Pino Gris > >> > <tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Jason wrote: > >> >>> In article <fg7la3$h1k$00$2@news.t-online.com>, Tokay Pino Gris > >> >>> <tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> Jason wrote: > >> >>>>> In article <fg6k9n$i7e$03$3@news.t-online.com>, Tokay Pino Gris > >> >>>>> <tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>> Jason wrote: > >> >>>>>>> In article <8YmdnUGVWrg5ULvanZ2dnUVZ_uninZ2d@comcast.com>, > >> >>>>>>> Charles > >> > & Mambo > >> >>>>>>> Duckman <duckman@gfy.slf> wrote: > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Jason wrote: > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Prove that there was a primordial pond. Tell me the exact > >> >>>>>>>>>>> location > >> >>>>> of the > >> >>>>>>>>>>> primordial pond. > >> >>>>>>>>>> Earth. > >> >>>>>>>>> Be more specific. > >> >>>>>>>> Third planet from the Sun, Solar system, Milky Way Galaxy. > >> >>>>>>> If you can't tell me the location of the primordial pond, don't > >> > expect me > >> >>>>>>> to tell you the location of heaven. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>> He did. And I did. Earth. The ocean. Which then pretty much > > covered the > >> >>>>>> whole globe. I'd have thought you'd jump at that. Big flood and > >> >>>>>> all. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Tokay > >> >>>>> Heaven is in another dimension. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> What is a dimension? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Tokay > >> >>> Google dimension > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> I KNOW what a dimension is. Do you? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Tokay > >> > > >> > try this term: alternate reality > >> > > >> > > >> > >> Totally different term. WHAT is a dimension? > >> > >> > >> Tokay > > > > I don't know which dimension in which heaven is located. > > Then what makes you think it's located in another dimension? It's my opinion. I don't remember the name of the preacher that came up with that idea. His idea made more sense than any other ideas I have heard. Quote
Guest Jason Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 In article <5orgc3Fnl0toU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:Jason-3010071233260001@66-53-215-221.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > > In article <5ooqf6Fnh429U1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" > > <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > > > >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message > >> news:Jason-2910071114400001@67-150-122-25.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > >> > In article <5omfbiFnmodfU2@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" > >> > <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote > >> >> > >> >> snip > >> >> > > >> >> > There is a heaven and there is a hell. > >> >> > >> >> Then prove it. > >> > > >> > Prove that there was a primordial pond. Tell me the exact location of > >> > the > >> > primordial pond. > >> > >> Since I never claimed there was a primordial pond, I don't have to prove > >> anything. > >> > >> YOU made the assertion about heaven and hell. YOU prove it. > > > > The location: another dimension > > Uh huh. Prove it. If I knew the exact dimension where heaven is located, I would tell you. It's my guess that it's in the 9th Dimension ) Quote
Guest James Beck Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 In article <Jason-3110071313440001@67-150-123-199.lsan.mdsg- pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... > In article <l79hi3tc5n5ncp4440nt82vhvijdm0pqgj@4ax.com>, Al Klein > <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:32:06 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > > > >If you believe that the president of Iran is making nuclear materials to > > >be used for peaceful purposes > > > > The SCIENTISTS who have inspected the facilities KNOW he is. > > Nuclear materials can be used to make nuclear weapons. > Ah, but it has to be CERTAIN materials. Quote
Guest James Beck Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 In article <Jason-3110071317160001@67-150-123-199.lsan.mdsg- pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... > In article <leahi319r50tea720ajlukkn9hhlc65p99@4ax.com>, Al Klein > <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:40:45 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > > > >The president of Iran and one of the chief clerics in Iran both have > > >stated that they want to use nuclear weapons against Israel. > > > > The US has said that it wants to eradicate Islam. > > > > > As you know, > > >we are obligated to protect Israel since they are an ally of America. > > > > Since there's been no attack, there's nothing to defend. "Defending" > > against an attack that MAY happen, some nebulous time in the future, > > is known as "attacking", and we're NOT obligated to START a war. (That > > we've done it a few times doesn't mean that there's any treaty that > > obligates us to do it.) > > I am shocked that so many atheists have so much trust in religious nut > cases like the president of Iran and one of the chief clerics in Iran. > We don't have any faith in ANY relious nut cases, including the christian ones in this country. Jim Quote
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