Guest stoney Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:05:11 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: >On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:19:57 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > >>In article <MPG.2192bfac54f3bcd898a298@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James >>Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: >> >>> In article <Jason-3110071317160001@67-150-123-199.lsan.mdsg- >>> pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... >>> > In article <leahi319r50tea720ajlukkn9hhlc65p99@4ax.com>, Al Klein >>> > <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: >>> > >>> > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:40:45 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >>> > > >>> > > >The president of Iran and one of the chief clerics in Iran both have >>> > > >stated that they want to use nuclear weapons against Israel. >>> > > >>> > > The US has said that it wants to eradicate Islam. >>> > > >>> > > > As you know, >>> > > >we are obligated to protect Israel since they are an ally of America. >>> > > >>> > > Since there's been no attack, there's nothing to defend. "Defending" >>> > > against an attack that MAY happen, some nebulous time in the future, >>> > > is known as "attacking", and we're NOT obligated to START a war. (That >>> > > we've done it a few times doesn't mean that there's any treaty that >>> > > obligates us to do it.) >>> > >>> > I am shocked that so many atheists have so much trust in religious nut >>> > cases like the president of Iran and one of the chief clerics in Iran. >>> > >>> >>> We don't have any faith in ANY relious nut cases, including the >>> christian ones in this country. >>> >>> Jim >> >>What about the religious nut case that is the president of Iran? >> >What about the religious nut case that is the president of the US, >Jason, who HAS THOUSANDS of nuclear weapons all ready to be fired NOW? Shrub's in the clear, according to Jason, because he's of the same superstition. :\ Quote
Guest stoney Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:46:45 -0400, James Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: >In article <Jason-3110071619570001@67-150-124-24.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >Jason@nospam.com says... >> In article <MPG.2192bfac54f3bcd898a298@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James >> Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: >> >> > In article <Jason-3110071317160001@67-150-123-199.lsan.mdsg- >> > pacwest.com>, Jason@nospam.com says... >> > > In article <leahi319r50tea720ajlukkn9hhlc65p99@4ax.com>, Al Klein >> > > <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: >> > > >> > > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:40:45 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> > > > >> > > > >The president of Iran and one of the chief clerics in Iran both have >> > > > >stated that they want to use nuclear weapons against Israel. >> > > > >> > > > The US has said that it wants to eradicate Islam. >> > > > >> > > > > As you know, >> > > > >we are obligated to protect Israel since they are an ally of America. >> > > > >> > > > Since there's been no attack, there's nothing to defend. "Defending" >> > > > against an attack that MAY happen, some nebulous time in the future, >> > > > is known as "attacking", and we're NOT obligated to START a war. (That >> > > > we've done it a few times doesn't mean that there's any treaty that >> > > > obligates us to do it.) >> > > >> > > I am shocked that so many atheists have so much trust in religious nut >> > > cases like the president of Iran and one of the chief clerics in Iran. >> > > >> > >> > We don't have any faith in ANY relious nut cases, including the >> > christian ones in this country. >> > >> > Jim >> >> What about the religious nut case that is the president of Iran? >> > >I guess you don't comprehend the word "ANY". That's Jason. Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:55:21 -0800, hhyapster@gmail.com wrote: >I would never imagine that even a deep-rooted loon like Jason would >want to sacrifice himself.....no way. >The only scenario that one would possibly sacrifice is to save his son/ >daughter Let's hope that no such unfortunate child exists. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "The doctrine that the earth is neither the center of the universe nor immovable, but moves even with a daily rotation, is absurd, and both philosophically and theologically false, and at the least an error of faith." - Catholic Church's decision against Galileo Galilei Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:17:56 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >In article <fvusi3d50icsp9d8ufee6j1b8edhc1eh6o@4ax.com>, Al Klein ><rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > >> On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:33:38 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >> >In article <v7gsi3ddancgq75k6p64qkmqrg4uo35ua5@4ax.com>, Al Klein >> ><rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: >> >> On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:31:59 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >> >> > Ask any >> >> >nurse if they know about any mercy killings. I know two local nurses. >> >> >> I know dozens of nurses, That has nothing to do with your failure to >> >> provide evidence to back up your claim. >> >> >If you choose to believe >> >> Don't you understand the difference between "choose to believe" (what >> YOU do) and "there's no evidence" (my stand)? >> >> > that doctors do not conduct mercy killings on a regular basis >> >> You said "EVERY DAY", not "on a regular basis" (the US holds >> presidential elections on a regular basis). So far there have been >> fewer than 100 of them. If there have been fewer than 100 assisted >> suicides in the history of the United States, there's nothing to >> discuss. > >I did not mean that every doctor does mercy killings every day. You haven't even shown that one mercy killing occurs somewhere in the US every day. > My point was that many different doctors conduct mercy killings every day. You made the assertion, now you have to present evidence to back it up. > That could mean that some doctors NEVER conduct mercy killings. That could also that most days, NO mercy killings are conducted. >There are efforts underway in California to make mercy killings legal. So? If suicide is allowable, why isn't it allowable for someone to get assistance to commit suicide? -- Al at Webdingers dot com "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:22:57 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >In article <uevsi3p41md2s128ntcobgtblsuf1j467f@4ax.com>, Al Klein ><rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > >> On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:12:53 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> >> >If you was president of America and the director of the CIA showed you a >> >satellite photo of people in Iran loading warheads on two long range >> >missiles-- Would you order the military to destroy the nuclear facilites >> >in Iran and also destroy the long range missiles? >> >> Richard was correct the first time: >> >> Since it's KNOWN that the CIA fakes evidence to give the president >> justification for whatever he wants, I would TOTALLY discount ANY >> "evidence" presented by the CIA. I would consider it even LESS >> reliable if the director of the CIA were an evangelical. >> >> OTOH, the scenario is impossible because if I WERE president of the >> United States (there's no president of America), the director of the >> CIA wouldn't be presenting me with satellite photos of people loading >> warheads on missiles. He'd be presenting me with evidence of things >> that were REALLY happening. Warheads aren't loaded on the surface. >> Even nosecones aren't put in place on the surface. So, unless we've >> installed Superman in one of our satellites, any pictures of people >> mounting warheads on missiles are faked. >> >> And nuclear warheads? How do you determine that from a satellite >> picture? By consulting the Bible codes? > >It would be an educated guess It would be a bald assertion, since there's no way to tell what's under the nosecone without actually lifting it off and examining the payload. A missile with an H-bomb as a payload looks exactly the same as the same missile with a payload of flyers, from a satellite. >since Iran is developing nuclear materials. Which CAN NOT be used as weapons, so why would they be loading them into missiles? -- Al at Webdingers dot com "It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning." - Calvin & Hobbes Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:26:40 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >In article <h11ti3l1otd7cch7ap8cmq3jq7r2ho85am@4ax.com>, Al Klein ><rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: > >> On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:21:48 -0800, Kelsey Bjarnason >> <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >[snips] >> > >> >On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:36:26 -0800, Jason wrote: >> > >> >> You appear to be a fan of a religious nut case. >> > >> >No, we'd be quite pleased to have Bush out of office. Meanwhile, for some >> >reason, you persist in ignoring the fact he's a religious nut case with >> >his finger on the button, and that America has thousands of nukes ready to >> >go. >> >> AND that he's just drooling over the thought of invading Iran. What >> "dangerous" country is next? Malta? Oh, no, that's kind of >> Christian, and they have no oil. > >There is a vast amount of difference between firing a dozen cruise >missiles at the nuclear facilities in a country and invading that same >country. > And there's a vast amount of difference between firing missiles at another country's missile site and firing missiles at the civilian population of a country which is incapable of doing us any direct harm - which is what you're advocating. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow' disease, and many others, but I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate." - Richard Dawkins Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:29:13 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >In article <fglo5a$76g$03$1@news.t-online.com>, Tokay Pino Gris ><tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net> wrote: > >> Jason wrote: >> > In article <fgkptb$8le$2@news04.infoave.net>, Mike >> > <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Jason wrote: >> >>> In article <jdtpi31jp62epc1ccrturfpdgtjiqng65v@4ax.com>, Al Klein >> >>> <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: >> >>>> Many people (the majority of human beings, in fact) believe that Jesus >> >>>> WAS NOT the son of any god. I guess that means that you'll be giving >> >>>> up Christianity, right? >> >>> You might let those people know that they were not alive when Jesus was on >> >>> this earth so how would they know. >> >> Neither were you. So how deep is that hole that you're digging, anyways? >> > I trust the testimony of the witnesses that were alive during that time period. >> Name one... >> Tokay >Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. The authors of the New Testament, whatever their names were (the only thing we can be CERTAIN of is that they WEREN'T Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) lived in the SECOND century. There's not a SINGLE SCRAP of New Testament from the first century. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." - Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826) Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:48:27 -0600, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >You failed Bible history. Jason failed Basic Thinking. In pre-school. Since he never learned how to think ... -- Al at Webdingers dot com "The man who is thoroughly convinced of the universal operation of the law of causation cannot for a moment entertain the idea of a being who interferes in the course of events - provided, of course, that he takes the hypothesis of causality really seriously." - Albert Einstein in the New York Times Magazine (November 9, 1930) Quote
Guest Robibnikoff Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote sm[ > > Did you know that many of the people that campaign at abortion clinics > have been sued? They now have to campaign far away from the entrance of > abortion clinics. And what's the problem with that? -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557 Quote
Guest Robibnikoff Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote snip > If you choose to believe that doctors do not conduct mercy killings on a > regular basis--so be it. Why do you care? -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557 Quote
Guest Robibnikoff Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote snip > I did not mean that every doctor does mercy killings every day. My point > was that many different doctors conduct mercy killings every day. Cite? -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557 Quote
Guest Robibnikoff Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote snip > It will have to be a VERY large room since 55 percent of Americans agree > with me related to this issue. So what? -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557 Quote
Guest Tokay Pino Gris Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 Jason wrote: > In article <fglo5a$76g$03$1@news.t-online.com>, Tokay Pino Gris > <tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net> wrote: > >> Jason wrote: >>> In article <fgkptb$8le$2@news04.infoave.net>, Mike >>> <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Jason wrote: >>>>> In article <jdtpi31jp62epc1ccrturfpdgtjiqng65v@4ax.com>, Al Klein >>>>> <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> Many people (the majority of human beings, in fact) believe that Jesus >>>>>> WAS NOT the son of any god. I guess that means that you'll be giving >>>>>> up Christianity, right? >>>>> You might let those people know that they were not alive when Jesus was on >>>>> this earth so how would they know. >>>> Neither were you. So how deep is that hole that you're digging, anyways? >>> I trust the testimony of the witnesses that were alive during that > time period. >>> >> Name one... >> >> >> Tokay > > Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. > > Not "alive during that period". Try again. Tokay -- Why does "cleave" mean both split apart and stick together? Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:19:14 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:05:11 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> >wrote: >>What about the religious nut case that is the president of the US, >>Jason, who HAS THOUSANDS of nuclear weapons all ready to be fired NOW? >Shrub's in the clear, according to Jason, because he's of the same >superstition. :\ Ventriloquist's dummies are superstitious? -- Al at Webdingers dot com "I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved -- the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!" - John Adams Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:21:41 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >If I was president, I would order the members of the military to bomb the >nuclear facilities and nuclear missiles in Iran. I would also order the >CIA to fund the members of NCRI (National Council for Resistance in Iran). We haven't had a president die in office since 1963. You'd certainly break that spell - although it would probably be military ordnance that would send you to your maker. Probably in pieces no larger than a postage stamp. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:13:53 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >In article <fgloch$76g$03$2@news.t-online.com>, Tokay Pino Gris ><tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net> wrote: >> Jason wrote: >> > In article <lue105-ou2.ln1@spanky.localhost.net>, Kelsey Bjarnason >> > <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> [snips] >> >> >> >> On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:30:34 -0800, Jason wrote: >> >> >> >>> It's much easier to fire cruise missles at the nuclear facilities in Iran >> >>> or use our bombers to drop bunker buster bombs on their nuclear >> >>> facilities. >> >> Far-reaching technical operations in which any of a thousand things can go >> >> wrong, and in which even if everything goes right, collateral damage is >> >> significant. >> >> >> >>> I don't have the skills needed to assassinate any person. >> >> Beating someone over the head with a stick does not require significant >> >> skill. >> > >> > A long range sniper rifle would be needed and it would be difficult to >> > smuggle that sort of rifle from America into Iran. >> > >> > >> >> Ehm. No, not exactly. Quite easy, in fact. >> >> Tokay > >It would be much easier for a member of NCRI to do it. But THEY'RE not posting this shit to Usenet - YOU are. >Meanwhile, in Paris, NCRI charged that Iran was still enriching uranium >and would continue to do so despite the pledge made Sunday to European >foreign ministers. So? You have to do that to run a power reactor. That has nothing to do with nuclear weapons. >The group, the National Council for Resistance in Iran, >or NCRI, also claimed that Iran received blueprints for a Chinese-made >bomb in the mid-1990s They also could have gotten plans for the bombs on the internet - anyone can. Even for fusion bombs. That has nothing to do with justification for nuking civilians. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "I've never had a problem with pollution. If God didn't want smoke in the air, he wouldn't have told us to burn witches." - Stephen Colbert Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:24:15 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >We came close to bombing Cuba. And your parents came close to having an intelligent son. But we DIDN'T bomb Cuba, and your parents DIDN'T have an intelligent son. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "For aught we know a priori, matter may contain the source, or spring, of order originating within itself, as well as the mind does." - David Hume, Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:48:41 -0500, James Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: >I guess the BIG question is, why do we have to worry about it? >I'm sure Israel is more than capable of handling the threat, that is if >they really thought it was one. They have done it before in Iraq. But this time Christendom has to do it. See what happened when Israel took care of it? Nothing! No Rapture! No Armageddon! We need CHRISTENDOM to do it RIGHT! Or maybe we just lock the dangerously insane, like Jason, away where they belong. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth about what we Bushes have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." -George H. W. Bush, spoken in an interview with Sarah McClendon, June 1992 Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:38:13 -0500, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > >"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote > >snip >> I did not mean that every doctor does mercy killings every day. My point >> was that many different doctors conduct mercy killings every day. > >Cite? Jason-proof. http://tinyurl.com/24bq6o Over 1.5 MILLION hits, so it must be so. http://tinyurl.com/ytve2s is also interesting. -- Al at Webdingers dot com "religion did for bullshit, what Stonehenge did for rocks" - The World Famous Tink Quote
Guest 655321 Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 Jason wrote: > In article <5p0qa3Fov6d5U1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" > <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: > >> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote >> >> snip >>> I am shocked that so many atheists have so much trust in religious nut >>> cases like the president of Iran and one of the chief clerics in Iran. >> We don't have faith in ANY religious nutcases, whether they be xian, moslem, >> etc., etc. > > When I advocated the destruction of the nuclear facilities in Iran, > various posters came to the defence of the religious nutcase in Iran. That's a lie, but who's surprised by now? -- 655321 Quote
Guest stoney Posted November 6, 2007 Posted November 6, 2007 On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:55:09 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote: >[snips] > >On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:39:04 -0400, Al Klein wrote: > >> We have NO trust in Bush. I'm surprised that so many so-called >> "Christians" refuse to admit that Bush is a VERY DANGEROUS religious >> nut. > >Ah, but you forget; he's _their_ religion, which means he is, by >definition, both right and justified, as well as safe and sound and >perfectly rational. > >Unlike believers in those other gods who are, by definition, unsafe, >unsound and dangerous, because they believe in silly, unfounded, >superstitious nonsense without a shred of justification, and those deities >they believe in and books they follow incite them to violence. > >I trust every Christian reading the above will fail, absolutely, to get >the point and actually apply it. And water is wet. Quote
Guest stoney Posted November 6, 2007 Posted November 6, 2007 On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:34:02 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: >On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:36:41 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > >>I think there are still 3 or 4 intelligent atheists alive ) > >Jason, your claiming that you think is one of the funniest things I've >heard in days - and I listen to stand-up comedians during my commute >every day. > >You've been proving, almost daily, here in Usenet, that you don't have >the ability to actually think. You spew. You regurgitate what your >religion says. But you never think. "We should always be disposed to believe that that which appears to us to be white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides." - St. Ignatius Loyola - Exercita spiritualia / 1541 Quote
Guest stoney Posted November 6, 2007 Posted November 6, 2007 On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:36:19 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: >On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:42:51 +0100, Tokay Pino Gris ><tokay.gris.beau@gmx.net> wrote: > >>Al Klein wrote: > >>> I think there are still 3 intelligent Christians alive. Maybe 4. > >>Ken Miller comes to mind. He claims to be a christian. How he does it, I >>don't know. But he claims it. Any others? > >My wife. My sister-in-law. My mother-in-law. Probably one priest I >know. > >My wife, sister-in-law and mother-in-law are Christians. That's about >the end of their religious involvement. The priest amazes me not >because he's intelligent, but because he's a priest. He's too >intelligent to fall for the nonsense. Yes, but such could be the easiest vehicle for him to assist others. Quote
Guest stoney Posted November 6, 2007 Posted November 6, 2007 On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:33:39 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote: >On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:22:16 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > >>In article <5p0qa3Fov6d5U1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" >><witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: >> >>> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote >>> >>> snip >>> > I am shocked that so many atheists have so much trust in religious nut >>> > cases like the president of Iran and one of the chief clerics in Iran. >>> >>> We don't have faith in ANY religious nutcases, whether they be xian, moslem, >>> etc., etc. >> >>When I advocated the destruction of the nuclear facilities in Iran, >>various posters came to the defence of the religious nutcase in Iran. > >No, we merely attacked the religious nut cases like you. You'd >destroy the entire world to keep Iran from producing electricity. How >nutty is that? One can't expect a christian like Jason, and ShrubCo et al., to tell the truth about anything. Quote
Guest stoney Posted November 6, 2007 Posted November 6, 2007 On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:00:23 GMT, cactus <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote: >Jason wrote: >> In article <MPG.219025105eb247cc98a280@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James >> Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: >> >>> In article <Jason-2910071153480001@67-150-122-25.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >>> Jason@nospam.com says... >>>> In article <MPG.218ffb1a6f2034e298a27d@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, James >>>> Beck <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In article <Jason-2910071111320001@67-150-122-25.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>, >>>>> Jason@nospam.com says... >>>>>> In article <5omerlFnoteuU1@mid.individual.net>, "Robibnikoff" >>>>>> <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> snipo >>>>>>>> A million years from now--you may be saying over and over and over >>>> again: >>>>>>>> I was warned about hell and I failed to do anything about it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was warned about hell and I failed to do anything about it. >>>>>>> The really sad thing is that I think you get off on this idea. >>>>>> That's not true. It would be great if everyone went to heaven. The world >>>>>> would be a much better place if everyone in the world was a >> Christian. It >>>>>> would end all wars. The money that is spent on wars and weapons could be >>>>>> spent to feed all of the hungry people in the world such as in the >> Sudan. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I guess all those killed in North Ireland don't count, huh? >>>>> If you REALLY believe that would end all wars, you are more delusional >>>>> than I thought. >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>> Good point. However, I would hope that the Christians involved in those >>>> sorts of wars (like in Ireland) would stop those wars. I have not heard >>>> much about the the war between Christians in Ireland in recent years. >>>> Perhaps that war has come to an end--at least I hope so. The biggest fear >>>> is Muslims since they have a goal of taking over the world. They will even >>>> use nukes to do it. The president of Iran has stated that he wants to >>>> "wipe off Israel from the map of the world." >>>> After he has finishes work on creating nuclear weapons--he will fire one >>>> or more nuclear tipped missles at Israel. His next target will probably be >>>> America. It would be easy to smuggle a nuclear bomb into America since >>>> tractor trailers come into America each day from Mexico. Various border >>>> guards have been fired for getting paid great amounts of money from >>>> Mexican cocaine dealers. Those sorts of border guards would love to take a >>>> million dollar payment to allow a tractor trailer loaded with a nuclear >>>> bomb to travel across the the Mexican border. I am glad I don't live in a >>>> large city. Of course, lots of liberal democrats in Congress don't want to >>>> allow Bush to destroy the nuclear facilities in Iran with bunker buster >>>> bombs. Many people in this newsgroup also don't want Bush to attack the >>>> nuclear facilities in Iran. >>>> Jason >>>> >>> Just look through history. >>> There has been just as much in fighting among christians as has been >>> within the different muslim subgroups. You act as if being a christian >>> instantly fixes all wrongs. I still can't believe that you have >>> ACTUALLY read your bible. It is filled with violence, hatred, and >>> intolerance. >>> Would YOU sentence a newborn baby to death because of the actions of >>> its' father or mother? >>> >>> Jim >>> >> >> no--as you probably know--Christians don't follow all of the laws in the >> Old Testament. >> >> >They pick and choose, generally the easy ones. One can't follow them all as many contradict themselves. /quote The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they need more supervision. - Lynn Lavner Exodus 34 [kjv] 10 And he said, Behold, I make a covenant: before all thy people I will do marvels, such as have not been done in all the earth, nor in any nation: and all the people among which thou art shall see the work of the LORD: for it is a TERRIBLE thing that I will do with thee. /quote God's really into doing terrible stuff to those he loves. With friends like that who needs enemies? Quote
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