So, yeah, I guess God hates fags, eh?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

And I hate the fags too

 

Lock the bastards for life

 

Sorry, I cannot do that for you, but seeing as how you are new here and like the concept of being locked - How about a nice 48 hour trip into our World Famous "Idiot Box". You'll love it!

 

Have a nice trip!

[builder]

 

Have a nice trip!

 

I dunno CES. After two days of pomgolian influx, the floor is likely to be covered in fag ends, turd-covered condoms, and empty guiness cans.

 

Just grab a rubbish bag, IWGY, and clean the place up a bit. There's a good chap.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Guinness...it's Good For You!

[Lethalfind]

I LOVE Christian arrogance, they know for sure what God hates...

I'm sure one of them (maybe more) have a direct pipeline to God and he is sending them messages through the tin foil hat they are wearing.

 

What the fuck ever.

[OTC]

I LOVE Christian arrogance, they know for sure what God hates...

I'm sure one of them (maybe more) have a direct pipeline to God and he is sending them messages through the tin foil hat they are wearing.

 

What the fuck ever.

 

 

And then they take their lovely pump action to the nearest pre school.

[Lethalfind]

And then they take their lovely pump action to the nearest pre school.

 

LOLOL, the pump action of God you forgot to mention...

 

Don't you remember that verse in the Bible about Pump Action shotguns of God...We need to get RO to look that up for us, he's the one with that version of the Bible.

[OTC]

Was it "And then god dideth speaketh to the mass public and sayeth bring forth your weapons and smite those anklebiters".

 

 

But seriously people this is one of the reasons that guns were banned over here becuase there were many incidents of shootings in schools.

[WullieTheRed]

I gotta admit, I love Christianity; their conflict with science right now is enough to giggle the shit right out of my system. I mean let's face it, apart from the religious freaks in the world, the only other people I know to hear voices from the skies are those Acid headed guys I used to hang out with as a kid. Oh but yeah, it's all in the Bible n shit, so it must be true, oh yeah; drugged out maniacs from 2000+ years ago couldn't have written anything but the truth. I'll tell you what though, give me forty days n forty nights in the desert with no food, and I guaran-fucking-tee you I will be talking to 'Gawd'

[Lethalfind]

I gotta admit, I love Christianity; their conflict with science right now is enough to giggle the shit right out of my system. I mean let's face it, apart from the religious freaks in the world, the only other people I know to hear voices from the skies are those Acid headed guys I used to hang out with as a kid. Oh but yeah, it's all in the Bible n shit, so it must be true, oh yeah; drugged out maniacs from 2000+ years ago couldn't have written anything but the truth. I'll tell you what though, give me forty days n forty nights in the desert with no food, and I guaran-fucking-tee you I will be talking to 'Gawd'

 

lolol, how hilarious...

[Lethalfind]

Ban guns??? Never...... their always talking obout school overcrowding anyways

 

Heres a unique idea, hold the parents criminally responsible for allowing their guns to fall into the hands of unstable teenagers...

[Lethalfind]

What???? Do you want to be resposible for your kid:

1. Doing heroin

2. Hit & Run

3. Fucking the Neighbors Daughter

 

And a long list of other shit kids may or may not do???? by the time they are 18? Thats just crazy talk......

 

The only way i will take resposibility for my kids if they do shit like that is if i have a legal right to beat the shit out of them etc... So make me resposible, but give me the tools to make it effective and preventible from the start and i would not have an issue with it

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Yes, I feel I should be held responsible. In Florida she can't get a license until she is 18 and responsible for herself.

 

If she chooses to do illegal drugs or commit other crimes I can't stop, I plan on turning her custody over to the Juvenile court, in this case the child remains living at home but the Judge is the one calling the shots.. The judge brings the kids in, tells them what they will and won't do, how they will do what their parents say if not they get busted to Juvenile hall.

 

It may sound harsh but its alot better for the child to learn what is accepted in society and what is not AND it could save society alot of problems if the child who can't behave or be controlled by their parents alot of problems.

If you let things like that go, the child will be 18 and no longer someone you can do anything about and they are truly lost.

 

If you don't want to be responsible for your children, and I am speaking for the world here...PLEASE DON'T HAVE ANY !!!

[snafu]

Ok..I might be way off here but did you just spend all that time saying absolutely nothing?

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  [ ]First you said you “Feel” you should be legally responsible
  [ ]Then you made a tangent reference to 18 & driving (18 is legal adult age right?) so you wouldn’t be responsible for your Childs actions at that point anyways.
  [ ]Then you said give legal custody & “Responsibility” to the courts
  [ ]And then you closed it all out with shouting out to the world an oxymoron ( in reference to your post anyways) that parents should be legally responsible for their children’s felony actions.

What did I (NazzNegg) get from your (Lethalfind) post……………ABSOLUTELY NOTHING !!!! yup a big zero on the relevance meter.

 

 

I restate:

 

Give me the legal authority to do what needs to be done to correct any actions my children may take prior to becoming legal adults, and I will gladly be legally responsible for their actions until they are 18.

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Shit you beat me to it!

 

Lethal you think the parents should be responsible but yet you want a judge to take care of them while they’re in your custody? What? Make up your mind.

She responsible at 18?

I made my own gun when I was maybe 12 I think. Was that my parents fault? Anybody with the time and some thought can do it.

 

PS: this thread really got derailed,

God hates assholes!

[Lethalfind]

Ok..I might be way off here but did you just spend all that time saying absolutely nothing?

[ ]First you said you

[tiredofwhiners]

Damn NAZZ give the puss a chance to tighten back up. So with a record like that i'm figuring you haven't been laid in 14 years.

[Lethalfind]

It all

[snafu]

As I have said before, it was not my choice to be a single Mother, my childs Father forced that on me, I believe children are far better raised in a home with two parents, but again, I had no choice in the matter.

 

Then how come you call it a badge of honor? You were forced into the situation it seems. I'm not dis-ing you. I think anybody that can raise a kid by themselves deserves a pat on the back. But it has anything to do with honor. We need to get back our fundamental morals into our society. Saying that single parenthood is honorable is crazy.

We all know the value of a full secured home environment for children.

[snafu]

As I have said before, it was not my choice to be a single Mother, my childs Father forced that on me, I believe children are far better raised in a home with two parents, but again, I had no choice in the matter

 

Then how come you call it a badge of honor? You were forced into the situation it seems. I'm not dis-ing you. I think anybody that can raise a kid by themselves deserves a pat on the back. But it has nothing to do with honor. We need to get back our fundamental morals into our society. Saying that single parenthood is honorable is crazy.

We all know the value of a full secured home environment for children.

 

The honorable thing would have been for and your husband to stick it out for your child. That's not your fault. Or is it? Life can be a bitch if you live with one.

[Lethalfind]

Then how come you call it a badge of honor? You were forced into the situation it seems. I'm not dis-ing you. I think anybody that can raise a kid by themselves deserves a pat on the back. But it has nothing to do with honor. We need to get back our fundamental morals into our society. Saying that single parenthood is honorable is crazy.

We all know the value of a full secured home environment for children.

 

The honorable thing would have been for and your husband to stick it out for your child. That's not your fault. Or is it? Life can be a bitch if you live with one.

 

How typical of you to make it about me being a bitch...lol

You just can't take the idea that ultimately it might have been the man's fault. The downfall of our relationship of course was shared responsibility, we weren't compatible.

I thought we would be best not together as a couple for obvious reasons, he and I were on the same page there, however he also wanted to walk out on his child even though I was willing to have him NOT pay child support (so he would not resent her for the loss of his precious money), I was willing to have a third party he was comfortable with be the go between for arranging his time with her at a location other then my home for his comfort sake. I honestly don't know what else I could have done except for have that abortion like he begged me to do.

I never pursued him for support, he didn't pay one dime during my pregnancy nor for his child. I payed for an attorney so he could sign over his parental rights so he would be assured no one would be pursuing him for child support and even though I didn't have to at that point, I still extended the invitation for him to see his child under his schedule and location.

[angie]

Snafu, when did you get so STUPID?

The honorable thing would have been for and your husband to stick it out for your child.

 

I get so PISSED when I hear stupid people make this comment. Since when is it honorable to let your child grow up in a house where her parents don't love each other and are miserable? What if the spouse is abusive? Should the other stay "for the sake of the children"? That's bullshit and you know it. My parents seperated when I was nine. Should my mother have stayed with my father so I could grow up watching them be miserable together, thus skewing my perception of what a marriage is supposed to be like? Should my mother have taught her daughter that she has to put up with a man verbally abusing her and neglecting her emotional needs? I THINK NOT. Luckily for all of us, my mother met a WONDERFUL man and eventually married him. He is the man I now call my father. What they have is what a marriage is all about, and I feel lucky to have him in my life. What if she had stayed with my biological father? IMO, my perception of love and marriage probably would've been quite different.

Should a woman whose husband (or vice versa) stay with a chronically unfaithful spouse for 'the sake of the children'? You know damn well those kids will know something isn't right at home. And once they get to their early teens, I guarantee they'll figure out what's going on (I've seen it happen). So they should watch one parent be constantly disrespected by the other? What is that going to tell them? That it's okay to not love, cherish, honor, and respect their loved ones. Or themselves for that matter.

[Quarky1.0]

NO WAIT!

 

doesn't god hate everyone?

 

[snafu]

We could go through hundreds of scenarios from abusive husbands or wifes to just falling out of love with your spouse. If it has something to do with spousal abuse you wouldn’t want the abuser to be around the child. However that’s why I made the statement of morals in our society. LF said her husband didn’t want anything to do with his daughter. What’s wrong with that picture?

LF must have really pissed him off. Or he is the total jerk she claims him to be.

Yes I think the parents should stick together. I think what’s really wrong is the sanctity of marriage has gone to the shitter. I think that the parents have an obligation to stick together. I fell out of love with my first wife but I didn’t want to split up. I fought tooth and nail to get custody of my children. In the end I had to suck up to her and her father so that my children had me in their life.

It’s just to damn easy to get a divorce or just get an abortion. What the fuck is wrong with our society?

 

I’m going to get a little personal and say that my wife and I don’t have the love we used to. And we almost split up. We don’t fight. We just don’t see eye to eye on a lot of issues. But we stuck it out. My son has grown up to be a smart and strong minded young man. I would hate to see how he would’ve turned out if we had let or emotions take over.

 

By the way...

We are pretty far from the topic and there is a thread about this subject.

[WullieTheRed]

NO WAIT!

 

doesn't god hate everyone?

 

 

I'd be surprised if he knew we existed. Let's face it, in the universe we're about as important to God as the Rise and Fall of Reginald Perrins is to a half brick. With bits of moss on.

If it was some kind of God who created this universe, then I believe we are more than likely just a by product of his great design/intent. Kinda like the grime that collects on the side of a fish bowl. You were interested in the fish, not about this mouldy green shit that likes to start wars with itself.

[Hugh G. Rekshun]

There are two types of single mothers; one by conception and the other by attrition.

The former is like a fat or nasty bitch that no man wants and the latter is like Rosie O’Donnell, a lezbo that won't conceive the intended way....and albeit is like the first example....a fat, nasty bitch that no man wants anyway...what a paradox!

 

 

I don't know if God hates Rosie but I know I abhor her myself. And, furthermore, I can't wait to see what her kid aspires to become when thrust into an adulthood riddled with innuendo and the shortcomings of being raised by a pair of dykes!

 

Can you say meth addict??

 

I know that God loves all beings (even Vortie, our forum queen, LOL).

 

When you fuck with the natural course of nature bad things can and will happen.

Look at Rosie...prime example and, of course, George Michael...the Glory Hole purveyor & perpetrator of deviant behavior with just a pinch of drug abuse...he gets my vote as being close to the top of the list of "hate-ees" Wait!!! He's a Brit too!!!

Now it is clear. Boy, was I not looking at that aspect

[snafu]

I'd be surprised if he knew we existed. Let's face it, in the universe we're about as important to God as the Rise and Fall of Reginald Perrins is to a half brick. With bits of moss on.

If it was some kind of God who created this universe, then I believe we are more than likely just a by product of his great design/intent. Kinda like the grime that collects on the side of a fish bowl. You were interested in the fish, not about this mouldy green shit that likes to start wars with itself.

 

Great analogy!

But as Frank Zappa would say The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe!

[Lethalfind]

Snafu, when did you get so STUPID?

 

 

I get so PISSED when I hear stupid people make this comment. Since when is it honorable to let your child grow up in a house where her parents don't love each other and are miserable? What if the spouse is abusive? Should the other stay "for the sake of the children"? That's bullshit and you know it. My parents seperated when I was nine. Should my mother have stayed with my father so I could grow up watching them be miserable together, thus skewing my perception of what a marriage is supposed to be like? Should my mother have taught her daughter that she has to put up with a man verbally abusing her and neglecting her emotional needs? I THINK NOT. Luckily for all of us, my mother met a WONDERFUL man and eventually married him. He is the man I now call my father. What they have is what a marriage is all about, and I feel lucky to have him in my life. What if she had stayed with my biological father? IMO, my perception of love and marriage probably would've been quite different.

Should a woman whose husband (or vice versa) stay with a chronically unfaithful spouse for 'the sake of the children'? You know damn well those kids will know something isn't right at home. And once they get to their early teens, I guarantee they'll figure out what's going on (I've seen it happen). So they should watch one parent be constantly disrespected by the other? What is that going to tell them? That it's okay to not love, cherish, honor, and respect their loved ones. Or themselves for that matter.

 

My childs father could be a really wonderful person, however he was THE most self absorbed person I had ever come across in my life. He was the guy you think of as Mr Personality, the kind of guy that could sell freezers to the Eskimos. He and the truth were not acqauinted at all. Unfortunately I didn't see this until it was too late. When I told him I was pregnant he had no concern for anyone but himself, he became so self obsessed I was shocked.

If I had stayed with him, it would have taught my daughter that its ok to be lied to, taken advantage of and generally treated like shit...

Of course it was partly my fault, I was the dumb ass who ignored all the red flags and stayed with him long enough to get pregnant. He would never had a chance to take advantage of me if I had not been dumb enough to stick around.

When he found out I was pregnant, he kicked me out of our apartment...His biggest concern??? The things I was taking with me that were mine from before we got together and how inconvenienced he would be by it...

As for getting involved again...I have my hands full making sure I give my daugther all she deserves. I can't afford to get involved in any situation that will take away from that responsibility. If someone happens along that will fit into our life then we'll see however it will have to be them fitting into our life, not the other way around.

Alot of women (and they make me sick) want a man just to use them for what they can get, which in my opinion makes them whores. I don't need anything monetary from a man and I would rather live on my own then with the wrong man with the right wallet.