TheJenn88 Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 And whose to blame for this? Its the womens fault the Father of her children bailed on her of course...that must be it, never for a moment could it be the fault of the Father who simply couldn't be bothered to be a real man, step up to the plate and take responsibility for his children. Funny thing is... my daddy just left an hour and a half ago. Packed his bags. Couldn't take the fighting with them, I guess.. Quote
sixes Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 Funny thing is... my daddy just left an hour and a half ago. Packed his bags. Couldn't take the fighting with them, I guess.. I know eh? Its like stick around fight with the mother and make the kids feel unsafe! BUT DONT EVER CONSIDER walking away from the mom. uh huh .LOL Quote .
sixes Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 Here is where I stand on this whole matter so I'm not misunderstood. First off this whole working world would be better off if anyone could admit they caused thier own problems in life. I have had alot of fucked up shit happen to me and alot would say it was unfair. Here is something you dont hear everyday... "IT was my falt! I let it happen ,I was stupid and I should have known better." The day I hear a father OR mother admit that rather than blame shift ,I will shit a golden brick ,untill then. Whaaaaaaaaa:D Quote .
manicmonday Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 Here is where I stand on this whole matter so I'm not misunderstood. First off this whole working world would be better off if anyone could admit they caused thier own problems in life. I have had alot of fucked up shit happen to me and alot would say it was unfair. Here is something you dont hear everyday... "IT was my falt! I let it happen ,I was stupid and I should have known better." The day I hear a father OR mother admit that rather than blame shift ,I will shit a golden brick ,untill then. Whaaaaaaaaa:D I agree with you, but not 100%. There are certain things that happen in your life and while not fair, aren't your choice either. Circumstances happen. You can't control what other people do in your life. Their choices affect your life, whether you want them to or not. So, while it's not always a case of "it's not my fault whawhawha," it's not always a decision that was in your hands. What you do with it afterwards is your choice. But sometimes someone else's choice fucks up your life and then you have to move from there. Quote The dick has no conscience and the heart has no rational abilities.
eisanbt Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 Didn't have one of those Father types myself, went up in ashes when I was 3 soo lets have a look.... 32 times more likely to run away. -Did that, learned why you shouldn't and came back. 20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders. - 9/10 of the most common traits among Serial Killers, Detached Personality (gone thankfully.. quiet you no I'm not.... ignore that:o ), Bi-polar, Split minded (but that good) Still a functional member of society. 14 times more likely to commit rape - It's taken all my will not to kill the few rapists I've met, I'd off myself before i become such a monster. 9 times more likely to drop out of high school. - Finished with honors, In Univeristy and slacking way too much. 10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances. Recently gave up Cigarettes, Cigars and Pot. Substances have never been a problem (but damn Cigerettes are fucking addictive) 9 times more likely to end up in a state-operated institution. - They'll never catch me alive!!!! 20 times more like to end up in prison." - (See above) The thing about all these statistics is that yah, It can fuck you up. But there plently of people MORE fucked up for much better reasons. I had no father and is affected me. Better that then having my father torture my siblings or for me to have to watch my pre-school peers be slaughtered by some nutcase rebels in Instable-Country-B. A reasonable mind will always perserver through this bull, you can never be completely sheltered from lifes down ends. It easily be much much worse, ask 80% of the world's population. Quote http://www.boohbah.com/zone.html "It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards" -Lewis Carroll
TheJenn88 Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 I agree with you, but not 100%. There are certain things that happen in your life and while not fair, aren't your choice either. Circumstances happen. You can't control what other people do in your life. Their choices affect your life, whether you want them to or not. So, while it's not always a case of "it's not my fault whawhawha," it's not always a decision that was in your hands. What you do with it afterwards is your choice. But sometimes someone else's choice fucks up your life and then you have to move from there. It won't let me give you rep. whaa. But yeah... what you said. Quote
sixes Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 I agree with you, but not 100%. There are certain things that happen in your life and while not fair, aren't your choice either. Circumstances happen. You can't control what other people do in your life. Their choices affect your life, whether you want them to or not. So, while it's not always a case of "it's not my fault whawhawha," it's not always a decision that was in your hands. What you do with it afterwards is your choice. But sometimes someone else's choice fucks up your life and then you have to move from there. You bring up a great point manic. May I ask you this? ,and I want to quote you here. But sometimes someone else's choice fucks up your life and then you have to move from there. Are you saying a little forethought on the person behalf who got screwed is NOT called for? man or woman..... Quote .
hugo Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 Maybe you should tell the next woman (if your that lucky) that before you sleep with her... Any woman I sleep with will know when to use your and you're. I don't sleep with dumb sluts such as yourself. The average female chimpanzee will pick a good protector and provider to breed with. Lethal ain't that bright. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
tizz Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 You can always choose how you react to anything. Just nobody remembers to tell teenagers that Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
manicmonday Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 You bring up a great point manic. May I ask you this? ,and I want to quote you here. Are you saying a little forethought on the person behalf who got screwed is NOT called for? man or woman..... A little forethought is always called for. But you CAN NOT controll the actions of someone in your life. You can control how you move on from there. You can control your reaction, your action and your next step. But you can't control what they do. Quote The dick has no conscience and the heart has no rational abilities.
hugo Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 A little forethought is always called for. But you CAN NOT controll the actions of someone in your life. You can control how you move on from there. You can control your reaction, your action and your next step. But you can't control what they do. With the exception of mom, dad, and siblings you have a great deal of control of who you let in your life. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
sixes Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 Maybe you should tell the next woman (if your that lucky) that before you sleep with her... Why is this kind of insult so common with women? Oh yeah ,I'm gona hurt your pride by talking about your sex life. They may work with men my age who have not had two kids but you are talking to hugo here!!! The man does not give a shit ,nor will he ever give a shit. LMAO @ the sad attempt from Lethalfind and ROTFLMAO @ hugo even responding!!!!!! Quote .
manicmonday Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 With the exception of mom, dad, and siblings you have a great deal of control of who you let in your life. Yes you do. But you have no control over their actions. You can't make someone stay with you if they don't want to. I don't want them to stay if they don't want to. But we aren't talking about who's in your life. We are talking about the decisions they make in their lives and how that affects your life. No man lives unto himself. We all have ripple effects of what we decide. Quote The dick has no conscience and the heart has no rational abilities.
hugo Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 Yes you do. But you have no control over their actions. You can't make someone stay with you if they don't want to. I don't want them to stay if they don't want to. But we aren't talking about who's in your life. We are talking about the decisions they make in their lives and how that affects your life. No man lives unto himself. We all have ripple effects of what we decide. While there are certainly cases of crimes committed by strangers the vast majority of non-governmental created human misery is created when you invite some worthless dumbass into your life. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
sixes Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 A little forethought is always called for. But you CAN NOT controll the actions of someone in your life. You can control how you move on from there. You can control your reaction, your action and your next step. But you can't control what they do. Right so if you are dealing with a child between you and this person ,you cant avoid the effect that person will have on your child. You can however ,take them to court and we all know most courts do favor mother over fathers. Also you can get a restraining order so that person does not effect you or your child anymore. I know this because I've done it. The first thing I had to do was stop balming her and start getting things done without all the pitty party.(respectfully speaking) Quote .
manicmonday Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 While there are certainly cases of crimes committed by strangers the vast majority of non-governmental created human misery is created when you invite some worthless dumbass into your life. So I'm assuming you live in a cave by yourself so that nobody can affect your life? Sounds lonely. Quote The dick has no conscience and the heart has no rational abilities.
manicmonday Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 Right so if you are dealing with a child between you and this person ,you cant avoid the effect that person will have on your child. You can however ,take them to court and we all know most courts do favor mother over fathers. Also you can get a restraining order so that person does not effect you or your child anymore. I know this because I've done it. The first thing I had to do was stop balming her and start getting things done without all the pitty party.(respectfully speaking) I'm not on any pity party. My son's sperm donor choose not to be involved, so he's not. This will affect my child, but having him around would be far worse. Restraining order. That's hiliarious. My exhusband broke my jaw the day he was served his. Yep, sure helped me. I'm not in any pity party or blaming him for my life. I have a great life. What I am debating is that people's choices change your life whether you like it or not. You can wallow in it, or you can move on with it. But there is simply no way someone in your life doesn't affect your life with their choices. Quote The dick has no conscience and the heart has no rational abilities.
sixes Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 I'm not on any pity party. My son's sperm donor choose not to be involved, so he's not. This will affect my child, but having him around would be far worse. Restraining order. That's hiliarious. My exhusband broke my jaw the day he was served his. Yep, sure helped me. I'm not in any pity party or blaming him for my life. I have a great life. What I am debating is that people's choices change your life whether you like it or not. You can wallow in it, or you can move on with it. But there is simply no way someone in your life doesn't affect you life with their choices. I did show respect for you in my statment. Look I'm sorry your hubby was a women beater ,thats fucked up ,and a restraining order is just paper. To those who dont want to rot in jail ,it does usually scare most people off. Looks like you had a real nut on your hands. You know what ,I'm gona just drop my point. I dont want to provoke you anymore then you seem to be. Remember ,its just a conversation. Sorry for offending you. Quote .
manicmonday Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 I did show respect for you in my statment. Look I'm sorry your hubby was a women beater ,thats fucked up ,and a restraining order is just paper. To those who dont want to rot in jail ,it does usually scare most people off. Looks like you had a real nut on your hands. You know what ,I'm gona just drop my point. I dont want to provoke you anymore then you sem to be. Remember ,its just a conversation. Sorry for offending you. You didn't offend me at all. I have no emotions for him. I'm not even provoked. But this kind of proves my point that a women starts making sensible posts about a topic and 1. people thinks she's provoked and 2. people give her bad rep points because they thinks she's whining. I don't care about the bad rep points, and I'm not offended. But JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, can a woman make some smart points without the men getting all worked up? Quote The dick has no conscience and the heart has no rational abilities.
fullauto Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 Why is this kind of insult so common with women? Oh yeah ,I'm gona hurt your pride by talking about your sex life. They may work with men my age who have not had two kids but you are talking to hugo here!!! The man does not give a shit ,nor will he ever give a shit. LMAO @ the sad attempt from Lethalfind and ROTFLMAO @ hugo even responding!!!!!! Women like to go straight for the juggular... nothing is sacred with them... ever see a cat fight? Man: I didn't mean anything.. I just wish you wanted it as much as I do... Woman: maybe if your dick was longer! Man: Well maybe If I didn't have 5 inches of fat to poke through to get in... Woman <crying>: That really hurts! You're such a bastard! Man <repentent>: I'm sorry... Quote Liberals... Saving the world one semester at a time "I'm not a racist... I'm a realist! And if you don't know the difference, You're an Idiot!" -- Fullauto Present - 1. (Noun) The point that divides disappointment from hope
eisanbt Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 Oh no, she is provoked!!! Kind of a generalization is it not? Quote http://www.boohbah.com/zone.html "It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards" -Lewis Carroll
sixes Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 You didn't offend me at all. I have no emotions for him. I'm not even provoked. But this kind of proves my point that a women starts making sensible posts about a topic and 1. people thinks she's provoked and 2. people give her bad rep points because they thinks she's whining. I don't care about the bad rep points, and I'm not offended. But JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, can a woman make some smart points without the men getting all worked up? manic you started to stray from my point. Now you have just gone over board. Do they like whinning here? hella no! But that is no reason to not speak your mind. Now when you say "men getting all worked up" ,you are not refering to me are you? If so I dont see the logic in that as I have stayed calm thus far. Quote .
sixes Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 Women like to go straight for the juggular... nothing is sacred with them... ever see a cat fight? Man: I didn't mean anything.. I just wish you wanted it as much as I do... Woman: maybe if your dick was longer! Man: Well maybe If I didn't have 5 inches of fat to poke through to get in... Woman <crying>: That really hurts! You're such a bastard! Man <repentent>: I'm sorry... Thats kind of crazy ,I like the role playing there FA! I hear that alot. Women like to go straight for the juggular. Well ,I think to alot of women it sounds cool to them. "Now they will fear me as they have seen how I go straight for the juggular", but what some of you chicks dont understand is this. Alot of men dont want to fight to the death over stupid bullshit. So if you are going to take a nasty blow to us out of fear for your wittle egos. Get ready to see what men do when you threaten them. Quote .
sixes Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 You didn't offend me at all. I have no emotions for him. I'm not even provoked. But this kind of proves my point that a women starts making sensible posts about a topic and 1. people thinks she's provoked and 2. people give her bad rep points because they thinks she's whining. I don't care about the bad rep points, and I'm not offended. But JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, can a woman make some smart points without the men getting all worked up? Look for anything that might seem like she could be provoked here smartass. Like...... JESUS FUCKING CHRIST Oh no, she is provoked!!! Kind of a generalization is it not? major generalization ,oh yeah... points for that..... Quote .
manicmonday Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 manic you started to stray from my point. Now you have just gone over board. Do they like whinning here? hella no! But that is no reason to not speak your mind. Now when you say "men getting all worked up" ,you are not refering to me are you? If so I dont see the logic in that as I have stayed calm thus far. Maybe worked up wasn't the right phrase, because this has been a civil debate. But I think backing of a debate because you thought I was provoked is well, I don't know what it is. I've never seen any one on here back of a good debate just because some one else was provoked. But that's your choice. The "men getting all worked up" phrase that I used was general and I apologize because I hate generalizations. The only point I've tried to make in this thread is that other peoples choices affect your choices. If you sixes decide to bow out of the conversation, then I can either talk to myself(yawn) or pick a new topic to discuss. Your choice effectively changed my choice. It's the same way in real life too. If someone leaves you, you have new choices. The point was brought up way back in the beginning of this topic this "Here is where I stand on this whole matter so I'm not misunderstood. First off this whole working world would be better off if anyone could admit they caused thier own problems in life. I have had alot of fucked up shit happen to me and alot would say it was unfair. Here is something you dont hear everyday... "IT was my falt! I let it happen ,I was stupid and I should have known better." [/b] Direct quote from you sixes. I'm trying to point out that someone else can fuck up your life with their mistakes. You still have to move on, but their decision fucked you up for a time. Is that really hard to understand??[/b] Quote The dick has no conscience and the heart has no rational abilities.
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