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[Lethalfind]

Why is it women never understand the proper use of your and you're?

 

Interesting, you read my post and all you can do is find fault with my grammar? Does that make you feel like a BIG MAN, I hope something does.

LOLOL

You make me laugh at how pathetic a person you are.

[sixes]

It does not take alot to get tizz hugo. Watch this ,tizz you are a jar of pickles!

[tizz]

A little tangy, extremely satisfying and perfect on a sandwich. Yuppers, just call me dill

[tizz]

I never thought it was just a woman thing, I just think he is an idiot in general and pretty much have from the time I came on this site

[hugo]

I think I am the one who is arguing a typical woman is brighy enough to date and breed selectively while the women on this board are arguing oterwise. They need to give their own sex more credit.

[hugo]

Sucks not being able to edit your typos. I guess Socrates suffered worse.

[TheJenn88]

I realize personal responsibility is not a attribute valued by thieves. I suggest, for your own sake, you don't date homicidal maniacs and if you do make sure you are in a crowd when you tell him you might be pregnant. A little common sense goes a long way. I realize you are a product of Fabian socialism and do not believe individuals can actually take actions to protect and better their lives.

Well, hugo. If there's one thing I'll take from this - I'll try my best not to date a homicidal maniac

 

As for your comment about me not believing people can take acctions to better and protect their lives... well, I'm glad you've become so versed in the art of jumping to conclusions and pulling shit from your ass. Many of your posts are filled with conclusions based upon things that people have never said. This is why you are in the idiot box. Many times I agree with you, and many times I disagree, but most of the time you are an idiot with how you say things.

 

For your information, I DO believe people can take actions to better their lives. I believe it is the responsibility of each person to fufil their own life - their dreams and ambitions. You fail to recognize that people should not be blamed for the actions of others. We all have our individual free rights, and no person makes someone (except maybe Manson) else kill another person. They do it of their own free will, or state of mind. That is how I see this. I don't care if this gal dated 100 ex-cons. It is the responsibility of the convicted or dangerous to not act upon their guilty pleasures.

 

I might agree with you more if you weren't such an apathetic and arrogant prick about things. I'm far right on a lot of issues, but I can't help but bring myself to argue the opposing side of your arguments simply because of the way you present them. I think you have many good ideas, hugo, but you've got to learn some things, like how you present your beliefs, and also that there are more than just the factual components to an argument. Their is logic, and there is emotion. They all contribute - and a debate can be won using one of those three aspects, or all of them. People might respect what you have to say more if you include compassion to your words so you don't seem so detached and simple.

[hugo]

For your information, I DO believe people can take actions to better their lives. I believe it is the responsibility of each person to fufil their own life - their dreams and ambitions. You fail to recognize that people should not be blamed for the actions of others. We all have our individual free rights, and no person makes someone (except maybe Manson) else kill another person. They do it of their own free will, or state of mind. That is how I see this. I don't care if this gal dated 100 ex-cons. It is the responsibility of the convicted or dangerous to not act upon their guilty pleasures.

 

 

Let me explain this to you. young lady, anyone who kills you is 100% responsible for their actions. This does not mean you do not owe it to yourself to avoid placing yourself in danger. There are sorry SOB's in this world..try to avoid them.

[angie]

Let me explain this to you. young lady, anyone who kills you is 100% responsible for their actions. This does not mean you do not owe it to yourself to avoid placing yourself in danger. There are sorry SOB's in this world..try to avoid them.

Some people are obviously pathetic excuses for human beings (like you, for example). But there are many others who are not quite so transparent. It isn't as cut and dry as you would like it to be. The world isn't black and white. There are many shades of gray. Apparently you like to lie to yourself and think otherwise, which is fine. Eventually, in your own world, your lies become truth. (although I'm pretty sure you jumped on that boat a loooong time ago).

[TheJenn88]

Let me explain this to you. young lady, anyone who kills you is 100% responsible for their actions. This does not mean you do not owe it to yourself to avoid placing yourself in danger. There are sorry SOB's in this world..try to avoid them.

 

How many times do I have to say that I agree with you - that a person should be responsible for themselves? Yes, women should NOT hang out with people of bad influence, but that's not to say they are responsible for getting themselves hurt (unless they are masochistic and hurt themselves, but whatever).

[hugo]

Some people are obviously pathetic excuses for human beings (like you, for example). But there are many others who are not quite so transparent. It isn't as cut and dry as you would like it to be. The world isn't black and white. There are many shades of gray. Apparently you like to lie to yourself and think otherwise, which is fine. Eventually, in your own world, your lies become truth. (although I'm pretty sure you jumped on that boat a loooong time ago).

 

Try looking up some statistics. How often is the first case of domestic abuse murder?

[TheJenn88]

Let me explain this to you. young lady, anyone who kills you is 100% responsible for their actions. This does not mean you do not owe it to yourself to avoid placing yourself in danger. There are sorry SOB's in this world..try to avoid them.

 

How many times do I have to say that I agree with you - that a person should be responsible for themselves? Yes, women should NOT hang out with people of bad influence, but that's not to say they are responsible for getting themselves hurt (unless they are masochistic and hurt themselves, but whatever).

[hugo]

How many times do I have to say that I agree with you - that a person should be responsible for themselves? Yes, women should NOT hang out with people of bad influence, but that's not to say they are responsible for getting themselves hurt (unless they are masochistic and hurt themselves, but whatever).

 

What would your action be the first time a boyfriend slapped you?

[hugo]

I realize it is a tough question, Jenn. Think about it. A lot of deceased women did not act appropriately the first time some sorry SOB slapped them. That sorry SOB should be executed, the women shoud still be alive. Sadly, life ain't fair. The odds favor this poor gal who is the subject of our debate was abused before by her eventual killer.

[TheJenn88]

I realize it is a tough question, Jenn. Think about it. A lot of deceased women did not act appropriately the first time some sorry SOB slapped them. That sorry SOB should be executed, the women shoud still be alive. Sadly, life ain't fair. The odds favor this poor gal who is the subject of our debate was abused before by her eventual killer.

But she broke up with him.

 

People have different amounts of what "enough" is. For some people, it takes almost nothing for them to end a relationship, because they have enough. For some people, enough is..never enough. I had to learn that, it was very hard to learn. To sit and watch it happen. But i can't change what he does to others... She had to see for herself. What I'm saying... people are blinded by so many things that they are willing to justify being mistreated, or are willing to let it slide because they haven't had enough yet.

 

But as for your question, I can't/qon't answer it ..but I understand why you ask it.

[tizz]

the whole thing is more complex HUGO. No human is perfect and no self image is either. You are asking a simple question ad expecting there to be a simple answer and there isn't one. It's like asking a cutter why do you keep doing it, or a drunk how they got that way.

 

Again you are showing just what an idiot you are

[hugo]

A little info from a domestic abuse website

 

What does teen dating violence involve? Teen dating violence can involve a pattern of repeated physical, sexual, emotional or verbal abuse or threats against a member of an unmarried heterosexual or homosexual couple in which one or both partners are between the ages of 13 and 20.

 

Early warning signs

Are you going out with someone who ...

 

Is jealous and possessive toward you, won't let you have friends, checks up on you, won't accept breaking up.

Tries to control you by being bossy, giving orders, making all the decisions and/or doesn't take your opinions and feelings seriously.

Is scary. You worry about how he/she will react to things you say or do. Threatens you and uses or threatens using weapons against you.

Is violent. Your boyfriend/ girlfriend has a history of fighting, loses temper quickly and/or brags about mistreating others.

Pressures you about sex. Thinks women or girls are sex objects. Attempts to manipulate or guilt trip you by saying: "if you really loved me, you would ... " Gets too serious about the relationship too fast.

Abuses alcohol or other drugs and pressures you to take them.

Blames you when he or she mistreats you. Says you provoked him/her, pressed his/her buttons, made him/her do it, lead him/her on.

Has a history of bad relationships and blames the other person for all the problems.

Believes that men should be in control and powerful and that women should be passive and submissive.

Your family and friends have warned you about the person or told you they were worried for your safety.

[hugo]

the whole thing is more complex HUGO. No human is perfect and no self image is either. You are asking a simple question ad expecting there to be a simple answer and there isn't one. It's like asking a cutter why do you keep doing it, or a drunk how they got that way.

 

Again you are showing just what an idiot you are

 

You are more interested in hurling insults then saving the lives of young women. What a sorry human being you are. You need medical help.

[tizz]

Asshole, shows what you know. I WAS one of those young women ya schmuck. Why the hell do think I am telling ya it's more complicated?

 

GEEEEEEZ!!!! Don't you pay attention to ANYTHING?

 

Oh and a little tidbit here, no one is going to take advice from a condescending sexist asshole like yourself.

 

No woman is going to hear a damn thing from another person about it until she is ready.

 

Speaking from experience both watching it happen to others and having it hapen to myself

 

so shove it up your tired rear end IDIOT

[hugo]

Asshole, shows what you know. I WAS one of those young women ya schmuck. Why the hell do think I am telling ya it's more complicated?

 

GEEEEEEZ!!!! Don't you pay attention to ANYTHING?

 

Oh and a little tidbit here, no one is going to take advice from a condescending sexist asshole like yourself.

 

No woman is going to hear a damn thing from another person about it until she is ready.

 

Speaking from experience both watching it happen to others and having it hapen to myself

 

so shove it up your tired rear end IDIOT

 

The truth comes out. You are an idiot with low self-esteem who put up with domestic abuse. Just because you were a willing victim does not mean others do not need education to avoid your mistakes.

[hugo]

Drs. Dave and Dee have some advice

 

 

 

Dear Dr. Dave and Dr. Dee,

 

I have been dating someone for a couple of months, but he seems to want to hang around me all the time. He doesn’t want me doing anything with my friends, although he still does stuff with his friends such as going to sporting events. He seems jealous when I make plans with my girlfriends to go shopping or to the movies. He calls me several times a day and stops by my house unexpectedly even when I’m not home and asks my mom where I am. He tells me that he’s worried that I will leave him like his former girlfriend. What can I do to help him stop being so insecure?

 

Signed,

 

Double Standard

 

Dear Double Standard,

 

While jealously is a sign of insecurity, your new boyfriend may also be showing early warning signs of a domestic abuser. Some of the warning signs are jealousy, possessiveness, controlling, alcohol or drug abuse, and history of poor relationships. If you are concerned about the possibility that he is showing early signs of abuse, then end the relationship now. It would be helpful to tell your mom or confide in a friend or school teacher or counselor in order to have support when leaving the relationship.

 

Early warning signs are important indicators of later potential dating violence. Dr. Jay Silverman at the Harvard School of Public Health estimates that "One in five girls between the ages of 14 and 18 report being hit, slapped, or forced into sexual activity by their dating partners." (http://www.hsph.harvard.edu)

 

The Eastside Domestic Violence Program at http://www.edvp.org gives these early warning signs of teen dating violence and safety planning tips for teens:

 

Are you going out with someone who....

 

1. Is excessively jealous

 

2. Checks in with you constantly or makes you check in with him/her

 

3. Has an explosive temper

 

4. Is violent: has a history of fighting, abuses animals, brags about mistreating others

 

5. Tries to control you by giving orders, making all the decisions, telling you what you should and should not wear

 

6. Pressures you or is forceful about sex

 

7. Isolates you from friends and family and puts down people who are important to you

 

8. Believes in the stereotypical gender roles for males and females

 

9. Gets too serious about the relationship too fast

 

10. Blames you when he/she mistreats you; tells you that you provoked him/her

 

11. Does not accept responsibility for his/her actions

 

12. Has a history of bad relationships and blames them on previous partners

 

13. You fear – you worry about how he/she will react to things you say or do

 

14. Owns or uses weapons

 

15. Won’t let you break up with him/her

 

SAFETY PLANNING FOR TEENS IN ABUSIVE DATING RELATIONSHIPS

 

General Safety:

 

1. Stay in touch with your friends and make it a point to spend time with people other than your partner.

 

2. Stay involved in activities that you enjoy. Don’t stop doing things that you enjoy or that make you feel good about yourself.

 

3. Make new friends. Increase your support network.

 

4. Consider looking into resources at your school or in the community. Think about joining a support group or calling a crisis line.

 

Safety at School:

 

1. Try not to be alone. Let your friends know what is happening and have them walk to classes and spend time during lunch with you.

 

2. Tell teachers, counselors, coaches, or security guards about what is happening. Have them help you be safe.

 

3. Change your routine. Don’t always come to school the same way or arrive at the safe time. Always ride to school with someone. If you take the bus, try to have someone with you.

 

4. Consider rearranging your class schedule.

 

5. Always keep extra change or a phone card with you so you can make phone calls.

 

6. Consider applying for an order of protection.

 

Safety at Home:

 

1. Try not to be alone.

 

2. Consider telling your parents or other family members about what is happening. They can help you screen your telephone calls or visitors.

 

3. Make a list of important phone numbers. Included on this list should be emergency numbers like 911, as well as supportive friends who you call when you are upset. Put the numbers of crisis lines on the list.

 

4. If you are alone at home, make sure the doors are locked and the windows are secure.

 

Safety With Your Partner:

 

1. Try not to be alone with your partner, or to be alone in an isolated or deserted location. Go out to public places.

 

2. Try to double date or to go out with a group of people.

 

3. Let other people know what your plans are and where you will be.

 

4. Try not to be dependent on your partner for a ride.

 

5. Always keep extra change or a phone card with you in case you need to make a phone call.

 

6. TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS. If you feel you are in danger, call the police. Get help immediately. Do not minimize your fears.

 

Safety When Breaking Up With Your Partner:

 

1. Break up with your partner in a public place.

 

2. Tell other people that you plan to break up with your partner. Let them know where you will be.

 

3. Arrange to call a friend or a counselor after you talk with your partner so that you can debrief about what happened.

[tizz]

Again, stop making yourself out to be an idiot. Yes my self esteem was low at the time and my situation no the best, but there are MANY contributing factors. I suppose you will tell me next that it was my fault when a very good friend's older brother and about 5 of his friends tried to rape me when I was 13. Ya I attacked myself and dragged myself up the stairs then tied myself to a radiator right?

 

You see things like that make an impression on your self worth that go along with you through life leading to many interesting situations. Did I stay too long with my abuser? Maybe. Did the fact that I was pregnant with his child make me think that things could get better and that it was better to try so my kid could have a father? Yes. Am I to blame for getting myself beat up? Maybe. Am I responsible for making it stop? Yes, along with some amazing support from family and friends. have I learned since then? Well after I got over my total fear of anything with a penis I believe I have but then only time will tell.

 

Can I tell you that you are an idiot with obviously NO knowledge of domestic abuse beyond your own idiotic arrogant condescending ignorant viewpoint? YES

 

BTW keep in mind that this is all in the "WAS" category, not "IS". If it WAS still in the is I can assure that I would NEVER be able to be this open about the experiences I have had, but then if you knew ANYTHING you would know that.

 

So again, shove it up your expanded rear end you IDIOT.

[berniec]

HUGO, take my advice for what its worth,and get your arse out of this debate.

Mate,you have hit a very sore spot with someone here,and even though i know where you are coming from,you are in a no win situation..

 

You say you are married,so you really should know better.

[phreakwars]

Hugo, you are not taking into account personal life drama that shape a persons life.. many women (and men for that matter) fall into bad relationships because of a psychological need to submit to discipline, not regular discipline, but rather one that has caused a traumatic impact on their life.

 

For instance, a typical mommas boy had a thought pattern that tells them crying out and controlling mom always got him candy... he is prone to be abusive.

 

Girls for instance can grow up being sexually abused, and will in turn grow up to get in an abusive relationship because of the fear created by control.

 

There are many factors involved here over your idea of "That guy who looks cool is a jerk, he might hit you ... better watch out".

 

Tells me your mindset is that of one who wishes to control someone themselves.. mainly women.... your wife must not get out much.

 

Jesus I could spend the entire morning tearing apart your fucked up idealism on how abusive relationships happen.

 

Shall we dance ??

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[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Oh My...

 

Phreak has grabbed and opened another can of Whoops Ass...

 

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