Lethalfind Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 Florida Man Fatally Shoots Home Invader POSTED: 7:43 am EST March 6, 2006 UPDATED: 8:04 am EST March 6, 2006 PENSACOLA, Fla. -- A Pensacola man won't be charged for fatally shooting a man trying to break into his home, authorities said Monday. The Escambia County Sheriff's Office says 63-year-old Edward Lucas Sr. woke up early Sunday and found a man trying to get in his house. Investigators said Lucas shot at 29-year-old Tyrone Preyer more than four times. A spokesman for the department said Lucas won't be charged because he was acting in self-defense. Reports show Preyer was suspected in several other neighborhood break-ins. Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. You gotta love that !!! We need to hear more of this in the news so these ass holes will start to be affraid to break into people's houses for fear of being brought out feet first in a body bag. Give the shooter a ribbon and a parade ! Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
WullieTheRed Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 I hear ya, but wont this also make it more likely that the guy coming into your house will bring a gun of his own? Quote I am a wanker
slip_knot Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 True Wullie But the criminal has a choice, ie don't be a burglar. Whereas the resident has no choice- he must defend himself from the intruder. To maximise his chance of survival he needs a gun. All to frequently, burglary leads to murder of the resident Quote
WullieTheRed Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 Aye, but when do they ever make the choice not to be a burglar? If someone is gonna do it, then they are gonna do it, and if they hear about all these people with guns in their house to protect them, then they are gonna bring guns too. It's just like when the nukes came out on the shelf, country A buys loads of nukes, just to show the others 'we have nukes, don't mess', so country B does the same. The only problem with this is that our 'country' of concern (I.e. the burglar) will still want what you have in your house, and the gun is not gonna stop him, because he has a gun and also the advantage of surprise. And if he does see you reaching for your gun in the daze that surrounds you in the wee hours of the morning, chances are his gun is gonna get fired first. I dunno, it's a tricky situation, I just think we'd all be better off without guns in the home place. All they do is make the criminals buy guns. 1 Quote I am a wanker
Lethalfind Posted March 7, 2006 Author Posted March 7, 2006 Aye, but when do they ever make the choice not to be a burglar? If someone is gonna do it, then they are gonna do it, and if they hear about all these people with guns in their house to protect them, then they are gonna bring guns too. It's just like when the nukes came out on the shelf, country A buys loads of nukes, just to show the others 'we have nukes, don't mess', so country B does the same. The only problem with this is that our 'country' of concern (I.e. the burglar) will still want what you have in your house, and the gun is not gonna stop him, because he has a gun and also the advantage of surprise. And if he does see you reaching for your gun in the daze that surrounds you in the wee hours of the morning, chances are his gun is gonna get fired first. I dunno, it's a tricky situation, I just think we'd all be better off without guns in the home place. All they do is make the criminals buy guns. I absolutely believe that there are people out there who stop and think, "am I going to shot when I brake into this house?" Articles like this need to be posted to engender fear in those people. I feel vulnerable as a homeowner, living on my own with a 9 year old child and feel like I must protect myself. The police are here and do a great job, we don't have a high crime rate here however, if someone choose to break in (they often call it a home invasion), who knows if I would get the police notified. However it only takes seconds to reach my .38 from my bed... Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
Rockhard Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 I live twenty minutes from any chance of assistance from law enforcement. kick in my door and you get hot lead to carry away if you are still able. Quote
Lethalfind Posted March 9, 2006 Author Posted March 9, 2006 I live twenty minutes from any chance of assistance from law enforcement. kick in my door and you get hot lead to carry away if you are still able. I LIKE it!!! Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 Aye, but when do they ever make the choice not to be a burglar? If someone is gonna do it, then they are gonna do it, and if they hear about all these people with guns in their house to protect them, then they are gonna bring guns too. It's just like when the nukes came out on the shelf, country A buys loads of nukes, just to show the others 'we have nukes, don't mess', so country B does the same. The only problem with this is that our 'country' of concern (I.e. the burglar) will still want what you have in your house, and the gun is not gonna stop him, because he has a gun and also the advantage of surprise. And if he does see you reaching for your gun in the daze that surrounds you in the wee hours of the morning, chances are his gun is gonna get fired first. I dunno, it's a tricky situation, I just think we'd all be better off without guns in the home place. All they do is make the criminals buy guns. What's your point? Should homeowners in the US cowar to the master intruders? Try to disuade an uncivilized brute with rhetoric? I prefer my .357 I know the layout of my own abode better than any intruder possibly could and my only regret would be cleaning the grey matter off of the walls.. Ah fuck it! I'd just hire a maid. Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
Skaterdude409 Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 If you limit home owners from having guns, whats gonna stop criminals with unregisterd guns? Shoot or be shot, thats my way of thinkin Quote
Lethalfind Posted March 9, 2006 Author Posted March 9, 2006 If you limit home owners from having guns, whats gonna stop criminals with unregisterd guns? Shoot or be shot, thats my way of thinkin I live in Florida where we have the death penalty. I can shoot and kill someone in my home after they have broken in and I will get a pat on the back and probably a blue ribbon, someone breaks into my house and kills me, they get a one way ticket to court and a posible death sentence, trip to sit in old sparky. If that isn't a deterence then nothing will be. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
Skaterdude409 Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 Its sad that most criminals think they are invincible and wont get caught. Their arrogance counters any deterence which makes them extremely dangerous Quote
Lethalfind Posted March 9, 2006 Author Posted March 9, 2006 Its sad that most criminals think they are invincible and wont get caught. Their arrogance counters any deterence which makes them extremely dangerous I have a friend who is a sheriff's deputy, he tells me in this area, most break ins are done without benefit of a fire arm. In fact one of the most brutal murders in the area didn't involve a gun at all. The people in the house were caught unaware, didn't have a gun to defend themselves and were beaten to death with a baseball bat. I can get my .38 out before they get to my bedroom, the alarm will notify me someone is on the house. I can shoot the bastards before the alarm company has time to send the police out. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
WullieTheRed Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 What's your point? Should homeowners in the US cowar to the master intruders? lol, what's my point? The greater majority of peeps in Britain don't have guns in the house and the times when burglars come in with a boom stick is very few and far between, in fact, I can't even remember the last incident. Americans have laid their own grim future out themselves by making guns such a common purchase. Quote I am a wanker
hugo Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 I live in Florida where we have the death penalty. I can shoot and kill someone in my home after they have broken in and I will get a pat on the back and probably a blue ribbon, someone breaks into my house and kills me, they get a one way ticket to court and a posible death sentence, trip to sit in old sparky. If that isn't a deterence then nothing will be. I live in Texas where you can kill scum after they have fled your home. You simply have to place a piece of your property in their lifeless hands. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 lol, what's my point? The greater majority of peeps in Britain don't have guns in the house and the times when burglars come in with a boom stick is very few and far between, in fact, I can't even remember the last incident. Americans have laid their own grim future out themselves by making guns such a common purchase. Great! you stay there in your burglar safe country, and I'll stay in my burglar dangerous one... agreed? Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
WullieTheRed Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 Great! you stay there in your burglar safe country, and I'll stay in my burglar dangerous one... agreed? heh, I shouldn't think it was up for question man. What a silly thing to say Quote I am a wanker
Quarky1.0 Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 Good on him, anyone who breaks into my house will be leaving with a toe tag, no questions asked. Quote
Lethalfind Posted March 9, 2006 Author Posted March 9, 2006 I live in Texas where you can kill scum after they have fled your home. You simply have to place a piece of your property in their lifeless hands. LOLOL, I know I used to live in Texas...gotta love that old west mentality. My Dads lawyer used to tell him to make sure he drags them back inside when we lived in Massachusetts. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
Lethalfind Posted March 9, 2006 Author Posted March 9, 2006 Good on him' date=' anyone who breaks into my house will be leaving with a toe tag, no questions asked.[/quote'] My feelings exactly...someone who wants to threaten the safety my home has no right to expect anything different. My Uncle told me about some rounds on the market called "pre-fragmented" they are different then a hollowpoint, they won't travel through a person or a wall for instance, therefore making it less likely that you will hit someone in another room or outside your house. At a buck a round, sounds well worth it. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
slip_knot Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 Don't you just love it when some arsehole gets killed whilst terrorising innocent people. Even though its nothing to do with the thread you'll probably enjoy this. Manchester UK recently Two criminals leap out of a car and enter a public house (thats a bar to you) Inside are children,women and men. The place is crowded with folks watching the football on TV. They each unload a handgun, shooting a few men -non of which died. Another guy in the pub pulls out his piece and returns fire. The two dick heads who probably think they are tough, immediatly turn and flee. But did not get far. Their pursuer gains ground quickly and gets close enough to fire. One arsehole gets shot in the back, the other stops and turns when he realises escape is just a pipe dream. His pursuer is fast over the ground and is an excellent shot too. He gets shot in the face. Both these arseholes are dead. I can't forgive either for shooting at unarmed men. But especially doing it in a room containing children and their mothers. Quote
Lethalfind Posted March 17, 2006 Author Posted March 17, 2006 Don't you just love it when some arsehole gets killed whilst terrorising innocent people. Even though its nothing to do with the thread you'll probably enjoy this. Manchester UK recently Two criminals leap out of a car and enter a public house (thats a bar to you) Inside are children,women and men. The place is crowded with folks watching the football on TV. They each unload a handgun, shooting a few men -non of which died. Another guy in the pub pulls out his piece and returns fire. The two dick heads who probably think they are tough, immediatly turn and flee. But did not get far. Their pursuer gains ground quickly and gets close enough to fire. One arsehole gets shot in the back, the other stops and turns when he realises escape is just a pipe dream. His pursuer is fast over the ground and is an excellent shot too. He gets shot in the face. Both these arseholes are dead. I can't forgive either for shooting at unarmed men. But especially doing it in a room containing children and their mothers. What happened to the guy who pursued them and shot them? While I think he deserves a medal of honor how did the law in the UK deal with him. I thought they frowned on this. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
WullieTheRed Posted March 18, 2006 Posted March 18, 2006 What happened to the guy who pursued them and shot them? While I think he deserves a medal of honor how did the law in the UK deal with him. I thought they frowned on this. Aye they do. Hell, I'm quite interested to hear what happened, I never heard any of this before... I do know that even our armed forces can't shoot a man running away from them, even if the same guy has just shot one of the soldiers, as long as he is running away, he is no longer that much of a threat and should only be chased down. Quote I am a wanker
slip_knot Posted March 18, 2006 Posted March 18, 2006 Lethal and Wullie Here is a link to a Manchester (Gunchester ) newspaper, detailing the event. http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/s/207/207504_bloodbath_in_a_family_pub.html Lethal, the guy who killed the arseholes is still being sought by the police. I hope they do not find him. I reckon the guy could give RO a few lessons in gun-craft lol Thats two more arsehole none of us ever need worry about again. Horray !!!! Quote
slip_knot Posted March 18, 2006 Posted March 18, 2006 Lethal: What happened to the guy who pursued them and shot them? While I think he deserves a medal of honor how did the law in the UK deal with him. I thought they frowned on this. __________________ If he is caught he will be charged with murder. If/when convicted he will receive a life sentence, which in the UK means about 12 years. If he is a model prisoner, which he probably will, he will be out on parole after 8 years. The police like everyone else will realise that he is a local. But to other locals,he is a hero. So hopefully no one will betray him. Quote
Lethalfind Posted March 18, 2006 Author Posted March 18, 2006 Fascinating, thanks for the link. I hope the guy doesn't get caught. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
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