Florida Man Fatally Shoots Home Invader

[slip_knot]

It must be an awfully grim place. An Iraqi living there wants to return to Iraq, rather than stay there.

 

From the same paper:

 

Omeed Tawfik, 22, who lives yards from the scene, said: "I moved here from Iraq five years ago and don't feel safe here any more. This place is just as bad as Iraq.

 

"If I'm to be shot and killed it is better to die in Iraq than here where I face racism. I've been thinking about going back for a long time and I might as well do it."

[Lethalfind]

It must be an awfully grim place. An Iraqi living there wants to return to Iraq, rather than stay there.

 

From the same paper:

 

Omeed Tawfik, 22, who lives yards from the scene, said: "I moved here from Iraq five years ago and don't feel safe here any more. This place is just as bad as Iraq.

 

"If I'm to be shot and killed it is better to die in Iraq than here where I face racism. I've been thinking about going back for a long time and I might as well do it."

 

I had heard that about Manchester when I was in the UK.

[slip_knot]

I meant the area where it happened. Manchester is itself quite a nice city if you like architecture. It has a lot of Victorian charm in places.

 

Actually, the event did not occur in Manchester, but Salford. They are both cities side by side. But everyone calls the whole thing Manchester.

[Lethalfind]

I meant the area where it happened. Manchester is itself quite a nice city if you like architecture. It has a lot of Victorian charm in places.

 

Actually, the event did not occur in Manchester, but Salford. They are both cities side by side. But everyone calls the whole thing Manchester.

 

I spoke with an older man from Manchester while I was there and he said the same thing, that parts are very nice but others have problems especially with racial tensions.

[slip_knot]

Getting back to the thread - burglary/ home invasion, some of you may find this interesting

 

About a year ago, I needed to get up for 23.00 to be at work at 01.00. I woke at about19.00 and went downstairs. Feeling thirsty I drank a can of beer and went back to bed. 15 minutes later I was still awake.

 

We are all familiar with the noises our homes make, and these cause no alarm.

 

Just then I heard a noise which did not belong to my house. It sounded as if some one was trying to make as little noise as possible on my staircase. Slowly, ever so slowly the tiny noises continued, and, were getting closer to my bedroom.

 

At this point I had convinced myself that it was a burglar.

 

I keep a rapier in my bedroom, just in case. But I had left it on the other side of the bedroom. Were I to get up to get it, then I would have alerted the guy to the danger he was in. And I wanted to really harm this guy, because it was probably the guy who had burgled my elderly neighbours twice. He had stolen all Pats rings and earings. The old lady was heartbroken and died shortly after. I hated this arsehole on my stairs.

 

My bedroom door is always left open and my bed is right behind it. I would not be seen until the last moment. Slowly ever so slowly his head appeared from behind the door.

 

Short hair, about 17 maybe 18 years and scrawny.

 

I leapt out of bed and ran for my rapier, but few things move as quickly as a terrified teenager, and I was barefoot. At the bottom of the stairs I thought he must be still in the house, as the back door was shut. I ran into the front room, then through the kitchen into the bathroom. He was nowhere to be seen. I realised that he must be out of the house, then I saw that the back door was pulled to, but open and unbolted.

 

I had made a mistake and now the kid had perhaps a full 30 seconds on me. I ran into the street, and of course there was no sign of him.

 

I gave his description to the police, but because I said that I had a glance of him they were not really interested in the matter. They thought that a defence solicitor would be able to get the kid off with the charge. This was because in the report I had used the word (glance) and also because it was twilight.

 

I do not believe the police were ever interested. A guy I know is a policeman, and he believes the same. Its just hard work for them, and they cant be bothered.

 

The rapier - a truly evil thing that measures 44 inches with double edges, now lives right beside my bed. If ever that kid or anyone else breaks into my house again he will be ran through, and no, I won't be calling an ambulance until I know the arsehole is dead.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

Getting back to the thread - burglary/ home invasion, some of you may find this interesting

 

About a year ago, I needed to get up for 23.00 to be at work at 01.00. I woke at about19.00 and went downstairs. Feeling thirsty I drank a can of beer and went back to bed. 15 minutes later I was still awake.

 

We are all familiar with the noises our homes make, and these cause no alarm.

 

Just then I heard a noise which did not belong to my house. It sounded as if some one was trying to make as little noise as possible on my staircase. Slowly, ever so slowly the tiny noises continued, and, were getting closer to my bedroom.

 

At this point I had convinced myself that it was a burglar.

 

I keep a rapier in my bedroom, just in case. But I had left it on the other side of the bedroom. Were I to get up to get it, then I would have alerted the guy to the danger he was in. And I wanted to really harm this guy, because it was probably the guy who had burgled my elderly neighbours twice. He had stolen all Pats rings and earings. The old lady was heartbroken and died shortly after. I hated this arsehole on my stairs.

 

My bedroom door is always left open and my bed is right behind it. I would not be seen until the last moment. Slowly ever so slowly his head appeared from behind the door.

 

Short hair, about 17 maybe 18 years and scrawny.

 

I leapt out of bed and ran for my rapier, but few things move as quickly as a terrified teenager, and I was barefoot. At the bottom of the stairs I thought he must be still in the house, as the back door was shut. I ran into the front room, then through the kitchen into the bathroom. He was nowhere to be seen. I realised that he must be out of the house, then I saw that the back door was pulled to, but open and unbolted.

 

I had made a mistake and now the kid had perhaps a full 30 seconds on me. I ran into the street, and of course there was no sign of him.

 

I gave his description to the police, but because I said that I had a glance of him they were not really interested in the matter. They thought that a defence solicitor would be able to get the kid off with the charge. This was because in the report I had used the word (glance) and also because it was twilight.

 

I do not believe the police were ever interested. A guy I know is a policeman, and he believes the same. Its just hard work for them, and they cant be bothered.

 

The rapier - a truly evil thing that measures 44 inches with double edges, now lives right beside my bed. If ever that kid or anyone else breaks into my house again he will be ran through, and no, I won't be calling an ambulance until I know the arsehole is dead.

I doubt he'll ever come back to your house, slip... These guys are basically cowards and prefer much easier prey.

[slip_knot]

I don't think hes coming back either. What a shame.

 

The law in the UK is an ass. I am allowed to use reasonable force. If he has a gun, I can legally shoot him. BUT I can't have a gun in the first place. If he has a knife,cosh,hammer or anything similar, then I can use any of these and it will be called reasonable force.

 

But I didn't know what the guy had in his hand because he was behind my door. He was also no more than 3-4 feet from me.

 

Am I supposed to walk out in front of him to see what he has in his hand, then, select the appropriate implement from under my bed to defend myself ?

 

If I do this and, he has a gun he will shoot me. If its any of the others he'll use it before I get the appropriate implement from under the bed. Its just dumb.

 

In a situation like that the burglar is using surprise against you. Its rediculous to maintain that I cannot use surprise against him.

 

If it ever happens again, as soon as I see his head I will know exactly where his trunk is. Then I'll stab for his trunk.

 

We need to act decisively, quickly and mercilessly. That way they will be at the funeral, and we at least will be at the crown court.

[Lethalfind]

Getting back to the thread - burglary/ home invasion, some of you may find this interesting

 

About a year ago, I needed to get up for 23.00 to be at work at 01.00. I woke at about19.00 and went downstairs. Feeling thirsty I drank a can of beer and went back to bed. 15 minutes later I was still awake.

 

We are all familiar with the noises our homes make, and these cause no alarm.

 

Just then I heard a noise which did not belong to my house. It sounded as if some one was trying to make as little noise as possible on my staircase. Slowly, ever so slowly the tiny noises continued, and, were getting closer to my bedroom.

 

At this point I had convinced myself that it was a burglar.

 

I keep a rapier in my bedroom, just in case. But I had left it on the other side of the bedroom. Were I to get up to get it, then I would have alerted the guy to the danger he was in. And I wanted to really harm this guy, because it was probably the guy who had burgled my elderly neighbours twice. He had stolen all Pats rings and earings. The old lady was heartbroken and died shortly after. I hated this arsehole on my stairs.

 

My bedroom door is always left open and my bed is right behind it. I would not be seen until the last moment. Slowly ever so slowly his head appeared from behind the door.

 

Short hair, about 17 maybe 18 years and scrawny.

 

I leapt out of bed and ran for my rapier, but few things move as quickly as a terrified teenager, and I was barefoot. At the bottom of the stairs I thought he must be still in the house, as the back door was shut. I ran into the front room, then through the kitchen into the bathroom. He was nowhere to be seen. I realised that he must be out of the house, then I saw that the back door was pulled to, but open and unbolted.

 

I had made a mistake and now the kid had perhaps a full 30 seconds on me. I ran into the street, and of course there was no sign of him.

 

I gave his description to the police, but because I said that I had a glance of him they were not really interested in the matter. They thought that a defence solicitor would be able to get the kid off with the charge. This was because in the report I had used the word (glance) and also because it was twilight.

 

I do not believe the police were ever interested. A guy I know is a policeman, and he believes the same. Its just hard work for them, and they cant be bothered.

 

The rapier - a truly evil thing that measures 44 inches with double edges, now lives right beside my bed. If ever that kid or anyone else breaks into my house again he will be ran through, and no, I won't be calling an ambulance until I know the arsehole is dead.

 

I LIKE it, killing a burglar with style...

[slip_knot]

I LIKE it, killing a burglar with style...

 

It'll be a damn messy business though. I bet you could get the blood out of the carpet, but the stink would be there forever. Maybe a hunting bow would be better...

[Lethalfind]

It'll be a damn messy business though. I bet you could get the blood out of the carpet, but the stink would be there forever. Maybe a hunting bow would be better...

 

I don't know if you call it the same thing in the UK but should you need to clean up blood, you need some hydrogen peroxide...I learned this while working for a dentist, I often had to clean up the patient after the sadist umm sorry the dentist was done with them. I assume you would need a HUGE amount to clean up after an encouter with a rapier but I have to admit that the carpet would have to go. I have always looked at my entry way and wondered if blood would sink into the grout in the tiles that are there...

[slip_knot]

Yep, I think a hunting bow is the way to go. Plugs all the holes as soon as you make 'em

[WullieTheRed]

It must be an awfully grim place. An Iraqi living there wants to return to Iraq, rather than stay there.

 

From the same paper:

 

Omeed Tawfik, 22, who lives yards from the scene, said: "I moved here from Iraq five years ago and don't feel safe here any more. This place is just as bad as Iraq.

 

"If I'm to be shot and killed it is better to die in Iraq than here where I face racism. I've been thinking about going back for a long time and I might as well do it."

 

heh, reminds me of that joke:

 

And Iraqi football player gets spotted by a talen scout and immediately signed to play for Liverpool. After his first game he phones his mother:

"Hey mum," he says over the phone. "It's fantastic in this club, we were losing 5-0 and then I brought us back to 6-5 in the last 5 minutes, the fans went wild... the team loves me, the fans love me... life couldn't get better."

 

"Well," replies his mum. "I wish I could feel happy for you, but your father has just been arrested for falling in with a bad crew who persuaded him to rob the local post office, your brother has decided to join a gang of hooligans who mug pensioners and rape young girls, and your poor sister has been forced to go on the game, just so we can make ends meet back at home..."

 

"Oh," the son says. "I don't know what to say mum, I'm so sorry..."

 

"You're sorry?" screams his mother. "It's your fault we moved to Liverpool!!"

[TerroristHater]

I doubt he'll ever come back to your house, slip... These guys are basically cowards and prefer much easier prey.

 

If you withold medical care, you will be guilty of murder.

[slip_knot]

If you withold medical care, you will be guilty of murder.

 

Yeah, but I might pass out after seeing all that blood and gore. I dare say i'll come round after a few beers, er I mean hours....

[Lethalfind]

If you withold medical care, you will be guilty of murder.

 

Yeah, but I might pass out after seeing all that blood and gore. I dare say i'll come round after a few beers, er I mean hours....

 

You would have to time this one perfectly and HOPE that the ambulance took its time getting to your house...or as you say faint dead away, hopefully leaving a huge KNOT on your head where you hit the ground.

[builder]

If you withold medical care, you will be guilty of murder.

 

Not at all. If you are incapable or untrained to administer first aid, you are in the clear.

[Lethalfind]

Not at all. If you are incapable or untrained to administer first aid, you are in the clear.

 

He mentioned NOT calling an Ambulance...you don't have to be trained in first aid to call an ambulance and the police would have a problem with you if you just didn't call them and let the person bleed out on your floor.

 

I can say that I would be damned if I would render first aid to someone I had just shot for breaking and entering my home however I would at least have to call the police and ambulance afterward.

[slip_knot]

Coming back to anti burglar measures. If you have a lawn you are sick of mowing, and, you have it fenced in, why not get some geese? They make a hell of a racket when disturbed. I think most burglars would give up straight away. They make more racket than a dog. And when a goose extends its wings, and runs hissing its enough to make a grown man turn and run. They really can look mean. During the winter when the grass does not grow, I usually hit Asda (UK Wallmart) at about 7 pm, thats when I can get a bunch of lettuce plants at give away prices. I even have them trained now to eat that chinese stir fry stuff, they love it.

 

They are available as goslings now. They will mow the lawn for you. Provide you with eggs, and if you "blow" the eggs you can sell the shells to crafters. The feathers can be sold on e-bay too, to folks who want to make goose down quilts.You would need quite a bit though.The flight feathers are sought out by sea anglers to make feathered lures, and by folks who like to make their own arrows.

 

They also make a fine roast, but its really difficult killing a goose you've become friends with. They really do make great pets, and give you a hell of a welcome home !

 

If you do want geese for guard duty, make sure you get pure Embdens, these are the easiest to spook, and the most likely to investigate a stranger, make a racket and see him off.

[builder]

He mentioned NOT calling an Ambulance...you don't have to be trained in first aid to call an ambulance and the police would have a problem with you if you just didn't call them and let the person bleed out on your floor.

 

I can say that I would be damned if I would render first aid to someone I had just shot for breaking and entering my home however I would at least have to call the police and ambulance afterward.

 

Let me rephrase my comment. If you are trained/untrained in first aid, and your assistance results in further injuring the person you are trying to assist, you will be prosecuted. The Good Samaritan law was repealed yonks ago.

 

If you fail to call the authorities, or fail to make an attempt to call the authorities, you will be prosecuted, even charged with manslaughter if the injured party dies. If you shot the bastard in the first place, get a lawyer. Make sure it's a good lawyer.

[tizz]

I watched a bunch of people standing around watching a three year old kid choke to death once because of the lack of good samaritan laws. Fuck that!! I looked at the father and in a panic remembered just enough of my HS pediatric first aid training to help the kid pop out the wad of candy corn that was lodged in his throat. By the time the life alert finally showed, the kid was awake, crying and the father was about ready to pass out. He was fine a week later. I was just shocked that of about 20 people standing around watching, NOT ONE did more than stand on a phone telling a 911 operator that the kid was freaking grey. Once I finally got the dad to hand the kid too me it was like recieving a grey limp fish. I still wake up in a cold sweat from time to time from that experience. Hope I NEVER have to relive it!!!

[hugo]

You don't just shoot the burglar once. You empty your ammo. Then you call the ambulance..after you are damn sure he is dead.

[builder]

I watched a bunch of people standing around watching a three year old kid choke to death once because of the lack of good samaritan laws. Fuck that!! I looked at the father and in a panic remembered just enough of my HS pediatric first aid training to help the kid pop out the wad of candy corn that was lodged in his throat. By the time the life alert finally showed, the kid was awake, crying and the father was about ready to pass out. He was fine a week later. I was just shocked that of about 20 people standing around watching, NOT ONE did more than stand on a phone telling a 911 operator that the kid was freaking grey. Once I finally got the dad to hand the kid too me it was like recieving a grey limp fish. I still wake up in a cold sweat from time to time from that experience. Hope I NEVER have to relive it!!!

 

I agree tizz, but I've also seen do-gooders giving mouth-to-mouth on a dying man, and blowing his own vomit back down into his lungs.

 

I took over, and thumped the shit out of his back while he coughed his heart out. Despite reviving him, he died on the way to hospital. He's already had a triple by-pass, so he was living on borrowed time.

 

Good intentions do not save lives. But running around in circles, making calls and waiting doesn't either. What's a poor boy to do?

[slip_knot]

I watched a bunch of people standing around watching a three year old kid choke to death once because of the lack of good samaritan laws. Fuck that!! I looked at the father and in a panic remembered just enough of my HS pediatric first aid training to help the kid pop out the wad of candy corn that was lodged in his throat. By the time the life alert finally showed, the kid was awake, crying and the father was about ready to pass out. He was fine a week later. I was just shocked that of about 20 people standing around watching, NOT ONE did more than stand on a phone telling a 911 operator that the kid was freaking grey. Once I finally got the dad to hand the kid too me it was like recieving a grey limp fish. I still wake up in a cold sweat from time to time from that experience. Hope I NEVER have to relive it!!!

 

I have read about this phenomena in psychology text books. It seems that people do not want to really get involved, unless they feel they have too. You Tizz are one of the exceptions. Everybody there was waiting for someone else to "do something". Eventually you overcame the reluctance to get involved and did what needed to be done.

 

Strangely, just about anyone will get involved, if they are alone with the guy who needs help. I suppose this is because, there is no one else there to "do something"

 

Even stranger, is the phenomena where people cannot see that they themselves are the ones needing urgent help.

 

I saw this one explained on the TV by a psychologist years ago. A plane taxied for take off, then came to a standstill. Smoke was filling the aircraft. The stewards open the exit doors and activated the inflatable ramps that passengers are supposed to leap onto.

 

Meanwhile half of the passengers continue to remain seated like nothing was wrong. Others understood that they were required to leave the aircraft. They stood up leisurely and began getting their stuff out of the overhead lockers. Like maybe that was the thing to do.

 

Others were trying to get out but the idiots emptying the overhead lockers were causing a real obstruction problem.

 

One of the survivors like you, saw what needed to be done. He climbed over the back of the seats, stepping on the seated passengers if they were there. He made it to the nearest exit, go out and survived.

 

I remember the event, I think about 90 people died. They just didn't seem to know what needed to be done. I guess its a kind of denial thing, perhaps they didn't want to see how much trouble they were in.

[Lethalfind]

You don't just shoot the burglar once. You empty your ammo. Then you call the ambulance..after you are damn sure he is dead.

 

Yea, god forbid he should live long enough to sue you for shooting his sorry ass for breaking into your house...Its happened.

[slip_knot]

Remember the guy who shot two arseholes in Manchester UK? Looks like they have caught him

 

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/s/209/209505_pub_shootings_man_arrested.html