Dead woman thinking

[hugo]

From:

RU-486 kills again

By Christina Tuns The Interim

 

On Sept. 17, the abortion drug RU-486 claimed its latest victim, a California teen. Well, that is not exactly true. Every day, hundreds of tiny, unborn victims are also killed by the chemical abortion agent.

 

On Sept. 10, Holly Patterson, an 18-year-old girl from Livermore in the San Francisco-area, was given Mifepristone (the first of two stages in administering RU-486) at a Planned Parenthood facility in nearby Hayward to end her seven-week-old pregnancy. She went home and later vaginally inserted Misoprostol, the second stage in administering RU-486. On Sept. 13, she entered Pleasanton's Valley Care Medical Centre to be treated for an undiagnosed case of septic shock, a serious infection that resulted from unexcavated aborted baby parts. She was sent home with pain control medication for what was thought to be cramps, although she was also bleeding.

 

Three days later, after suffering acute pain so bad she was unable to walk, she re-entered the medical centre and died later that day. A doctor at the centre told the family that, "Fragments of the fetus still left in her uterus ... caused the infection." The Alameda County coroner's office is investigating to rule on the official cause of death.

 

Assuming the God of Abraham exists, and has judged Holly a murderous slut, what do you think is going through Holly's head as she burns in hell?

[sixes]

I don't get this poll ? Seems kind of deranged....

[manicmonday]

I don't get this poll ? Seems kind of deranged....

 

Hugo's idea of judging a pregnant woman. Because she DID get that way by herself and the man is always innocent.

[Lethalfind]

I have to agree with part of what Hugo said, Holly was stupid for not getting medical care before things got that bad. They don't just throw RU 486 out there with no mention of what to do should something not go right.

However I take exception to her being called a slut. She is a slut because she slept with someone and accidently got pregnant? What about the man who got her that way and then was no where to be found when taking care of it became an issue??

Like Manic says, in Hugo's eyes, the man is innocent and only the woman bears the shame of being single and pregnant...so goes his diatribe...

[snafu]

I have to agree with part of what Hugo said, Holly was stupid for not getting medical care before things got that bad. They don't just throw RU 486 out there with no mention of what to do should something not go right.

However I take exception to her being called a slut. She is a slut because she slept with someone and accidently got pregnant? What about the man who got her that way and then was no where to be found when taking care of it became an issue??

Like Manic says, in Hugo's eyes, the man is innocent and only the woman bears the shame of being single and pregnant...so goes his diatribe...

 

She was under a doctor’s care so she shouldn’t be blamed for that.

 

She was stupid for committing this act so far into her pregnancy. She waited seven weeks? What for?

You might think the women takes the blame but do we know the man didn't want the child? The way the laws are, he has no say in it. Change the laws to give the man his rights and then you can blame him.

[Lethalfind]

She was under a doctor

[hugo]

My point has never been that men are not also responsible. Just that women are cursed by biology with greater risks.

[Lethalfind]

My point has never been that men are not also responsible. Just that women are cursed by biology with greater risks.

 

Thats the first thing I have agreed with you about, we are cursed by biology.

Society however makes that worse by letting men off scott free in these cases.

Obviously people (men and women) have no business sleeping with someone casually given the wide range of consequences. Thats why when someone starts crying about how the women wants an abortion etc. I have to ask what the man was doing sleeping with someone he didn't know better.

I wouldn't sleep with someone I knew expected me to have an abortion or give a child up for adoption should I become pregnant and that is something I would discuss long before hitting the sheets.

[RoyalOrleans]

Assuming the God of Abraham exists, and has judged Holly a murderous slut, what do you think is going through Holly's head as she burns in hell?

 

A hot pitchfork, hopefully.

[jokersarewild]

"I wonder if that pitchfork is fuckable?"-Holly

[Gallytuck]

Thats the first thing I have agreed with you about, we are cursed by biology.

Society however makes that worse by letting men off scott free in these cases.

Obviously people (men and women) have no business sleeping with someone casually given the wide range of consequences. Thats why when someone starts crying about how the women wants an abortion etc. I have to ask what the man was doing sleeping with someone he didn't know better.

I wouldn't sleep with someone I knew expected me to have an abortion or give a child up for adoption should I become pregnant and that is something I would discuss long before hitting the sheets.

 

You just ruined your chance with me there.

[sixes]

You just ruined your chance with me there.

 

This is your life and it's ending one minute at a time.

[snafu]

Society however makes that worse by letting men off scott free in these cases.

What the fuck are you talking about? The men are getting off scott free? Fuck you! Change the laws so the man has more rights and then you can get him for his responsibilities.

The men have no fucking rights. They don't get a choice. He couldn't tell her not to have the abortion. He doesen't get the kid. He pays!

Fuck you for saying that!

[jokersarewild]

Snafu's right. Once the man can ask for an abortion, then you can bitch and whine and complain. "It's my body!"...BULLSHIT! KEEP YOUR LEGS TOGETHER THEN, IF YOU ARE SO WORRIED ABOUT YOUR "BODY"!

[snafu]

Snafu's right. Once the man can ask for an abortion, then you can bitch and whine and complain. "It's my body!"...BULLSHIT! KEEP YOUR LEGS TOGETHER THEN, IF YOU ARE SO WORRIED ABOUT YOUR "BODY"!

 

Just think if a man petitioned to have his kid aborted. He would be scorned as a self centered murderous bustard. Especially if the women wanted to keep the child. Sounds like a double standard to me. She has the authority to kill my child but I don't?

Not that I personally would ever want to do that.

[jokersarewild]

Male abortion: Don't kill the little bastard, just have no financial responsibility for it.

[Lethalfind]

What the fuck are you talking about? The men are getting off scott free? Fuck you! Change the laws so the man has more rights and then you can get him for his responsibilities.

The men have no fucking rights. They don't get a choice. He couldn't tell her not to have the abortion. He doesen't get the kid. He pays!

Fuck you for saying that!

 

Again, let me ask you, why would you be sleeping with someone who would have an abortion when you don't want that? Or conversly why would you be sleeping with someone who would bring a child in this world when its NOT what you want. No one puts a gun to a mans head getting him to sleep with someone.

 

As for a man living up to his responsibilities...Legally they will tell you that a man has a right to see his children whether he has paid his child support or not, he also has a responsibility to pay the child support whether the Mother is letting him see the kid or not, they are both seperate issues. Its not a case of if the Father pays his child support then and only then can he see his children.

 

If you really believe your drivel, check into the statistics for your particular state about how many Fathers are not paying the child support that is their legal responsibility...the statistics are staggering. Their are whole departments dedicated to tracking down dead beat Dads. You can't say "well I'm not going to pay my child support because I never wanted the child to begin with." You played, you pay...its that fuckin simple. Keep your dick in your pants if you don't want to pay. Don't sleep with some bitch who is going to trick you into Fatherhood or abort your child when you want it.

 

The men that get themselves into this deserve what they get. You want to get laid so badly, you take it where you can get it and end up with a woman who has no respect for your wishes.

 

If men want more say about their children being born or not as the case may be, maybe you should be more careful about where you leave your sperm !!!

 

The only time a man would get my sympathy on this situation is if the man was raped and became a Father without his willing participation in the act that created the child.

[Lethalfind]

Male abortion: Don't kill the little bastard, just have no financial responsibility for it.

 

Did someone put a gun to your head to MAKE you sleep with the Mother??

If you are stuck in this position, you were looking for a piece and it didn't work out like you wanted, no strings...well sex isn't like that. Stop your whining and grow up and realize that you own the responsibility just as much as the Mother of the child.

 

If you don't want a child, then don't sleep around, its just that fuckin simple...

[snafu]

Again, let me ask you, why would you be sleeping with someone who would have an abortion when you don't want that? Or conversly why would you be sleeping with someone who would bring a child in this world when its NOT what you want. No one puts a gun to a mans head getting him to sleep with someone.

 

As for a man living up to his responsibilities...Legally they will tell you that a man has a right to see his children whether he has paid his child support or not, he also has a responsibility to pay the child support whether the Mother is letting him see the kid or not, they are both seperate issues. Its not a case of if the Father pays his child support then and only then can he see his children.

 

If you really believe your drivel, check into the statistics for your particular state about how many Fathers are not paying the child support that is their legal responsibility...the statistics are staggering. Their are whole departments dedicated to tracking down dead beat Dads. You can't say "well I'm not going to pay my child support because I never wanted the child to begin with." You played, you pay...its that fuckin simple. Keep your dick in your pants if you don't want to pay. Don't sleep with some bitch who is going to trick you into Fatherhood or abort your child when you want it.

 

The men that get themselves into this deserve what they get. You want to get laid so badly, you take it where you can get it and end up with a woman who has no respect for your wishes.

 

If men want more say about their children being born or not as the case may be, maybe you should be more careful about where you leave your sperm !!!

 

The only time a man would get my sympathy on this situation is if the man was raped and became a Father without his willing participation in the act that created the child.

 

 

I wouldn’t sleep with a girl that would abort my child. I wouldn’t get her pregnant if I didn’t want a child either. I personally don’t have anything to do with this. I was referring to the rights for everybody. I don’t care about statistics. They would not be the same if the laws were equal. The women should not be able to abort a child without the consent of the man. PERIOD! And visa versa. Equality for all not just women.

 

Legally if the judge believes the women (and that’s all he/she needs which is bullshit) that the man might be a threat the man gets no visitation and has to pay child support. I agree that visitation and child support are two different things.

 

The women can be a degenerate and still get either custody or visitation rights, like my brother–in–law’s ex-wife. My brother-in-law has custody of his girls because his ex is in the slammer. He is court ordered to take his girls (on his time with his money) to the prison(now half way house) for her to have visits. He has missed work to do this to fit her schedule. She pays no child support. Nothing! Even though she gets paid in jail for small jobs.

Does this sound like equal rights to you?

[jokersarewild]

Did someone put a gun to your head to MAKE you sleep with the Mother??

If you are stuck in this position, you were looking for a piece and it didn't work out like you wanted, no strings...well sex isn't like that. Stop your whining and grow up and realize that you own the responsibility just as much as the Mother of the child.

 

If you don't want a child, then don't sleep around, its just that fuckin simple...

 

One problem with the first paragraph...we may have resposibility, yes, but we have no say or rights in it.

 

Problem with last sentance: What if the condom broke? What if any form of birth control(such as condom and spermacide) didn't work? Then it was an accident. But who has the rights? Women. Who gets fucked over? Men. Why? I think it is the damn feminazi's fault. Women don't deserve more rights than men.