Scientology Religon or Cult

[Michael Rudd]

In the UK we have not had much exposure to Scientology, but a recent documentry by the BBC through their Panorama team brought up many questions, the first being just where did it come from and on what is it based,

I Googled it and came up with some strange figure called Xenu who some 75 million years ago brought a huge number of aliens down packed them round volcanoes and blew them up, and from there it just becomes more fancyfull, I got all my information from the online Wkipedia encyclopedia.and from what I read it seems that it is just a money making scheme and not to be taken seriously except for the danger it poses for the week minded. If my information is wrong please let me know?

[eddo]

cult for the rich.

[Phantom]

Complete cult. First of all, the founder and the one who wrote their "Bible" was a sci-fi writer. Warning One. Then (I don't remember the details) but his "prophecy" was something like there was an intergalactic war millions of years ago, the alien side that won enslaved the aliens that lost and basically had something like a holocaust, the victimized aliens found earth as a refuge to set up a utopia, and here we all are. Then the bad aliens are supposed to show up again one day where we must fend them off one last time where they will be destroyed. WTF?

[Michael Rudd]

Hi Phantom, what you write is about what I have read. But it hardly explains why a number of wealthy film stars and others follow it.Not that I subscribe to the belief that a film star or foot ball player is to be blindly followed, it is still a wonder ( to me anyway), as to how stupid some of them actualy are

[eddo]

True Story: A couple years back I took a group to Hollywood, for a site seeing trip. Had never been there before, and thought it would be cool. As soon as we starting walking down the one street, we were given free "tickets" to a new museum that had just opened up. We thought it would be cool, and went to check it out. It was a museum dedicated to the life of L. Ron Hubbard. (founder of the church of Scientology, didn't know that at the time, I just thought he was an author and speaker) I had heard of him, but really didn't know much about him, so we go in, and it is a guided tour through the museum, complete with video and sound bites.

At the first stop in the museum, we notice that our tour guide had vanished back out the entry door. I went to follow her, and we were locked in. Only when the audio stopped did she return. Really didn't to think much of it til she did vanished at each stop of the tour. She would just vanish, no one would see where she went or why, and only during the audio and video part of the tour. We were getting a very bad feeling about all of this. At this point, we had been in the museum about 20 minutes and I asked our guide (when she reappeared) how much longer the tour is gonna last. She tells us it will last another hour, so I told her that we had much more that we wanted to see that night and that we were gonna leave. She got an extremely displeased look on her face, and tried very hard to talk us out of leaving. I very politely said that we had just driven all day to get there, hadn't had dinner yet, and didn't expect to be locked in a museum for the night. She reluctantly let us out, but announced very loudly (to all who could hear) that the reason we were leaving early is because we hadn't had dinner yet. The whole experience was very weird, and I can't help but wonder if there wasn't some sort of brainwashing going on in there...

[Michael Rudd]

Hi eddo. Good story, just who do you think is funding such a facility.

[Phantom]

I know my shit because I watch South Park (only 1.5 minutes):

 

[YOUTUBE]http://youtube.com/watch?v=xDPkn9LX0rU[/YOUTUBE]

[Michael Rudd]

Hi Phantom. I like it nice and concise, and easy to understand

[snafu]

Okay aliens placed us here. Now who created the aliens?

[eddo]

Okay aliens placed us here. Now who created the aliens?

 

Tom Cruise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

duh...

[Feckless Wench]

Scientology has been evident here in the UK for years! In the 80s I was in London and there was a stall at the side of the sidewalk offering 'free stress tests'. I was bored and decide to pass the time and go get a test. The 'free' test turned out to be a brainwashing session (nope, it's no cleaner now) followed by pressure selling of the L Ron Hubbard book 'Dianetics'...which of course I refused to buy.

 

25 years on, they are still using the same tactics in large cities and people are still falling for them. Any 'religion' that has to recruit in such as way cannot be called 'religion' at all and has thoroughly earned the name CULT!

[Michael Rudd]

Scientology has been evident here in the UK for years! In the 80s I was in London and there was a stall at the side of the sidewalk offering 'free stress tests'. I was bored and decide to pass the time and go get a test. The 'free' test turned out to be a brainwashing session (nope, it's no cleaner now) followed by pressure selling of the L Ron Hubbard book 'Dianetics'...which of course I refused to buy.

 

25 years on, they are still using the same tactics in large cities and people are still falling for them. Any 'religion' that has to recruit in such as way cannot be called 'religion' at all and has thoroughly earned the name CULT!

 

Hi Feckless, I was not in the UK during the 80s, I took my young family to South Africa so I did not come into contact with Scientology , I returned to the UK in 2000 and I still have not bumped into them, maybe it is just that as I am older I dont notice some of the rubbish that goes on, sort of set in my ways,

[Feckless Wench]

Hi Feckless, I was not in the UK during the 80s, I took my young family to South Africa so I did not come into contact with Scientology , I returned to the UK in 2000 and I still have not bumped into them, maybe it is just that as I am older I dont notice some of the rubbish that goes on, sort of set in my ways,

 

LOL, how ARE are you?? Personally I'm as old as dirt! Keep a look out in large cities, you'll see the buggers.

[Michael Rudd]

Hi Feckless, actually I dont spend much time in city centers, more of the out door sort, but you are right age is mainly a state of mind, although I do tend to feel things more now and when I last fell of a horse I found that I had lost all my bounce which I had plenty of when younger I was more like an egg hitting the ground and it did hurt

[Feckless Wench]

I teach for a living...it ages you...FAST! LOL!

[Michael Rudd]

I teach for a living...it ages you...FAST! LOL!

 

A very worth while way to pass through your life, I have done a bit of teaching but not in formal sector. I had a farm in South Africa, and I helped the young black children with their numeracy,

[Anonymous]

I have done a bit of teaching but not in formal sector. I had a farm in South Africa, and I helped the young black children with their numeracy,

Ept dem wit der numeracy did ya? bet dey know aw to count to 2 now don't dey, 2 wit a stick mayhaps.. wink-wink know wot I mean govner?

[Michael Rudd]

Hi Anonymous, Well their school was a 15 mile walk which meant that they had to start very early in the morning, so if the weather was not good thay would skip that day, and so some of the kids from neighbouring farms came as well, I liked it and so did they, nobody forced them to come.

[eddo]

I took my young family to South Africa

 

 

Don't you owe me $80 million dollars (US) for one of my related that passed away in a train wreck?

[Michael Rudd]

Don't you owe me $80 million dollars (US) for one of my related that passed away in a train wreck?

 

 

Probably at the time, unfortunately for you the money is already spent and all that ios left is my profound thanks

[Huskarine]

Religion is implicit of the term "worship"...so the question is what are they worshipping???

 

If it's themselves, a failed, flawed human-being, then it would be their religion...but worshipping ourselves doesn't get us anywhere since we can not ressurect the dead, or even perform anything miraculous...even self worship promotes evil behavior, for it would promote a "my will be done" attitude. This leads to humanity's ultimate demise...a corruption of who is God...

 

Indeed, the world is filled with souls full of hurt, questioning the source and direction of worship...humanity is always short on its efforts of self-deism...

[Michael Rudd]

Religion is implicit of the term "worship"...so the question is what are they worshipping???

 

If it's themselves, a failed, flawed human-being, then it would be their religion...but worshipping ourselves doesn't get us anywhere since we can not ressurect the dead, or even perform anything miraculous...even self worship promotes evil behavior, for it would promote a "my will be done" attitude. This leads to humanity's ultimate demise...a corruption of who is God...

 

Indeed, the world is filled with souls full of hurt, questioning the source and direction of worship...humanity is always short on its efforts of self-deism...

 

 

Then the question is, Just what do people such as John Travolta, Tom Cruise get out of it, even the most simple minded will smell a rat if all you are doing is writeing out cheques.????

[Huskarine]

some of them do it for publicity...

 

yeah, I would actually say that an overwhelming majority of celebs do spontaneous things and worship spontaneous things for the sake of their name on a Tabloid or an interview with Letterman...

 

but for other people, besides celebs??? The reason for worship is for self gratification...for them, it's all they believe, thus their worship entails....

 

for those people that claim they are not worshipping anything, they need to look again...indeed, they are worshipping something; whether it be a deity or not...the sad thing is that people like atheists search for meaning and purpose so much that they succumb to their own wants of not believing in a God, but then sequentially themselves...in other words, they choose not to believe in God, but they still need to believe in something, so they then believe in what ever is left: their flawed, failed selves... really sad actually....literally choosing to stick their heads in the sand...

 

 

this doesn't mean I believe in Scientology...I think it's a joke...

 

If the title of the thread was Scientology: Religion, Cult, or Joke; then this thread could have easily been put in the piss pot...

[snafu]

You know the recruitment processes you have all witnessed sound bizarre but it isn't far fetched that the alien IS god. Although I believe in god, I have to wonder just how close the bible is. After all it's men that came up with it. So this guy is different how?