Hamza123 Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Now if he was muslim converting to christianity, we all know what would happen Hmm... That Afghan Christian was set free, and now new laws are being set in Muslim Countries for freedom of religion, the only major country with out this rule is Saudi Arabia. I won't bother arguing with you anymore. You know jack shit about Islam. The fact that I have chosen to debate with MRIH, simple says that he's worthy. I don't hate MRIH at all. Infact, I like him, he's a cool guy, and I can tell by a lot of the debates he has been in, that he's damn smart. Anything he's ever debated with me, he's backed up, he's proven it, and at times, he's put me in my place for being an idiot. The fact that when I said things, he actually read what I said, took it in and told his side of the story, I don't see you doing the same. Islam denounces terrorism, and I do too. I found many videos of Muslims denouncing terrorism, and here is one. PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO AS IT IS THE BASIS OF MY ARGUMENT http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3027558843506779651&q=islam&pl=true I am in a position of defending Islam, and I only see you spearheading an offense or an attack. This causes me to see how much hate a person can have, to the point of which they are or almost evil. Still don't believe me... Than how about I test your judgement. -------- Many people who are not familiar with the Quran or did not make a good effort to study it are confused about the issue of befriending people from other religions. Many of them make grave judgment on this matter. Quran is a complete book that occasionally presents a law or commandment over several chapters or several verses in the same chapter and the practical part of this commandment can be achieved by understanding the whole issue as presented over all the verses and chapters and not by upholding only part of the Quran. God specifically warn us against doing just that, upholding part of the Quran while disregarding the rest. [2:85] ?. Do you believe in part of the scripture and disbelieve in part? What should be the retribution for those among you who do this?.. To understand the issue of befriending the Jews and Christians , we have to study all the concerned verses together in light of the whole Quran. I heard many people mention 5:51 with no referral to the rest of the verses that discuss this important issue. [5:51] O you who believe, do not take [certain] Jews and Christians as allies; these are allies of one another. Those among you who ally themselves with these belong with them. GOD does not guide the transgressors. Now, let's look at some other verses about befriending the Jews and the Christians, or anyone not Muslim (Submitter) for that matter. These two verses are regulating relations with any people, regardless of faith; [60:8] GOD does not enjoin you from befriending those who do not fight you because of religion, and do not evict you from your homes. You may befriend them and be equitable towards them. GOD loves the equitable. [60:9] GOD enjoins you only from befriending those who fight you because of religion, evict you from your homes, and band together with others to banish you. You shall not befriend them. Those who befriend them are the transgressors. Thus, we learn that we are only enjoined from befriending those who fight us because of religion. Let's go back to the verse immediately after 5:51, to see if it now sheds some more light on the issue. [5:52] You will see those who harbor doubt in their hearts hasten to join them, saying, "We fear lest we may be defeated." May GOD bring victory, or a command from Him, that causes them to regret their secret thoughts. Thus, it is clear that this is a situation when there is a division and an overhanging conflict between the believers and the others. Otherwise, what would be the logic behind the statement. "We fear lest we may be defeated." In these situations those with doubts in their hearts will ally themselves with the enemy. 5:57 makes it clear again, who are not to be taken as friends; [5:57] O you who believe, do not befriend those among the recipients of previous scripture who mock and ridicule your religion, nor shall you befriend the disbelievers. You shall reverence GOD, if you are really believers. God teaches us throughout the Quran that there are righteous Jews and Christians. So, if we think we are righteous, and they are righteous, what could possibly be the problem between us, or obstacle for us to be friends? [7:159] Among the followers of Moses there are those who guide in accordance with the truth, and the truth renders them righteous. [5:46] Subsequent to them, we sent Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the previous scripture, the Torah. We gave him the Gospel, containing guidance and light, and confirming the previous scriptures, the Torah, and augmenting its guidance and light, and to enlighten the righteous. [5:47] The people of the Gospel shall rule in accordance with GOD's revelations therein. Those who do not rule in accordance with GOD's revelations are the wicked. [2:62 & 5:69] Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve. [3:113-114]. They are not all the same; among the followers of the scripture, there are those who are righteous. They recite GOD's revelations through the night, and they fall prostrate. They believe in GOD and the Last Day, they advocate righteousness and forbid evil, and they hasten to do righteous works. These are the righteous. [3:199] Surely, some followers of the previous scriptures do believe in GOD, and in what was revealed to you, and in what was revealed to them. They reverence GOD, and they never trade away GOD's revelations for a cheap price. These will receive their recompense from their Lord. GOD is the most efficient in reckoning. We learn, however, from the Quran that the Christians are closer to the believers (submitters-Muslims) than the Jews. This is just a statement of fact by God almighty, that we can still witness during our time. God is the best knower of the emotional structure of His creations and therefore was this statement of fact in 5:82. We can witness from the conflict in the Middle East for example , how very emotional the Jews get and how they react to conflicts with their friends, their enemies or even among themselves inside Israel. [5:82] You will find that the worst enemies of the believers are the Jews and the idol worshipers. And you will find that the closest people in friendship to the believers are those who say, "We are Christian." This is because they have priests and monks among them, and they are not arrogant. This verse should not be used by any mean to negate the fact that among the Jews (and Christians) will be righteous people who can be good friends as explained in the above verses, they do not fight us in our religion or our homes. They can be our neighbors, colleagues, friends, co-workers...etc We will be good to them as they are good to us. We, all the righteous people of all religions ,can make the difference and make this world better by respecting each other, respecting the freedom of choice of each other, and remember that we all have the One and the same God. This regards every non-muslim... "But Allah will deliver the righteous to their place of salvation: no evil shall touch them, nor shall they grieve." (Holy Quran 39:61) "For those who believe and do righteous deeds, will be Gardens; beneath which rivers flow: That is the great Salvation" (Holy Quran 85:11) "As for those who repent, reform, and proclaim, I redeem them. I am the Redeemer, Most Merciful." (Holy Quran 2:160.15) Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Hamza123 Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 To continue my other post.... ------------------------------------------------------- Anytime a Christian or Jew is reffered to in the Quran as a Disbeliever, they are reffering to the Christians and Jews who are that of by association, and the ones who fight Islam for the sake of the killing of Islam and the innocents. The Qur'an was written as a generalization of religion, but not in a prejudiced sense. It basically means, everyone on earth was seen as Christian, Jewish, or Muslim, and there are disbelievers who call themselves Christian and true believers in Christianity, just like those in Judiasm and Islam!!! "This day are (all) things good and pure made lawful unto you. The food of the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. (Lawful unto you in marriage) are (not only) chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the People of the Book, revealed before your time,- when ye give them their due dowers, and desire chastity, not lewdness, nor secret intrigues if any one rejects faith, fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good). (The Noble Quran, 5:5)" I didn't have to go into detail, but for the sake of "once and for all" I did... To sum it all up, I could've used this one verse... "And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book [Jews and Christians], those who believe in God, in the revelation to you, and in the revelation to them, bowing in humility to God: They will not sell the Signs of God for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord, and God is swift in account. (The Noble Quran, 3:199)" Or even this one.... "Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] are a portion that stand (For the right): They rehearse the Signs of God all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous. (The Noble Quran, 3:113-114)" I only hope these big letters HELP you understand better. And remember, in the most important surah in the Qur'an.. Also the largest, it states... Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, [Non-Muslims] whoever believes in All Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Skaterdude409 Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 You can rant all you want, but it doesnt change the fact that Islam is fucked up. Mohammed for instance, was a pedophile, rapist, and murderer. He had a 6 year old wife and constimated the marriage when she was 9. What a sick bastard. Their are numerous historical texts that tell of his raids and murder of inocent jews and christians. Now lets go into the part of him being a flase prophet. Specificly among the ones that the bible warns about. Their were to be no prophets after jesus until his second coming. And i like the fact that Islam denounces that jesus was crucified yet not only the bible states that he was, but historical roman records do to. Also, the bible had many figures that contributed to it, where as the quran is only by Mohammeds word. I dontthink it would be a good idea to follow the word of a rapist, murderer, and pedophile either. All mohammed did was steal parts of christianity, judaism, hinduism, and put them together in his own little way and twist them to his liking. He even stole the symbol for allah from hinduism aswell. Further proof of how much bullshit Islam is. It even tells you how you have to shit. The Qur’an states that one should enter the restroom with left foot first while saying a prayer of protection. It is not permissible to enter a restroom while carrying anything that bears the name of Allah, such as the Qur’an, or any book with the name of Allah in it, or jewelry such as bracelets and necklaces engraved with the name of Allah. Muslims should keep silent when in the restroom. Thus, talking, reading, greeting others and answering greetings are not to be done inside the restroom except for risky situations, like guiding a disabled person. “When the Prophet felt the need of relieving himself, he went far off where no one could see him”. It is implied that one should be out of sight, thus doors of toilets should be securely closed. Privacy is therefore a major requirement when providing restroom facilities for Muslim users. Muslim women specifically have problems with Western-style public restrooms because they find stalls with gaps between the floor and wall too immodest. This makes installation of floor-to-wall dividers and louvered doors a necessity. Islam prohibits facing the Qiblah while defecating. The Prophet said “if you go to defecate, do not face the Qiblah nor turn your back toward it. Instead, you should turn to your left side or your right side”. Some scholars believe that this forbiddance only applies in open areas. According to them, when in an enclosed area, or as long as there is something shielding one’s body, there is no harm in facing the Qiblah. Another more accepted opinion says that it is something forbidden in both open and enclosed areas and it is best to refrain from doing so as much as possible out of respect for the Qiblah. Determining the Qiblah in an area designated to be the restroom and working around it could therefore be considered a requirement when designing toilets for Muslim users. Muslims are encouraged to urinate while sitting or squatting and not while standing since this was the usual practice of the Prophet. Although standing is not forbidden as the Prophet is also reported to have done so. Squatting or sitting is said to be better since it is healthier for the body and there is less chance of urine splashing onto one’s body or clothes. Islam strictly prohibits direct contact with urine and feces as these are considered impure. The Prophet once passed by two graves and and said “Both are being punished. They are not being punished for major (sins). One did not shield himself from urine and the other carried gossip.” This explains why squat-type toilets are still popular in some areas— they are not being resistant to progress as some would think, but are adhering to their beliefs. After using the toilet, one should performs the Istinjaa (cleansing with water). In Istinjaa, water is preferred for the purpose of cleaning oneself. However, when water is not available, a material that does not have a smooth surface, such as stone or wood can be used. Tissue paper can be used as long as it does not absorb the feces or urine and cause the hand to come into contact with it. Qur’an forbids the use of the right hand in order to clean oneself from the impurities of urine and feces. The Prophet said, “None of you should touch his privates with his right hand whilst urinating nor should he wipe off feces with his right”. Muslims have a practice of leaving the toilet with right foot first as this is the usual practice of the Prophet. They utter a prayer of forgiveness as they leave the toilet. Prayer uttered before entering the restroom with left foot: “O Allah, I seek Your protection from the male and female devils” Prayer uttered after leaving the restroom with the right foot: “ I seek your pardon. Praise be to Allah who removed from me discomfort” I could go on and on listing all the fucked up things that the quran tells you to do, but it wont. Most of the people here already know that islam should have never seen the light of day. Just remember that muslims get bent out of shape over cartoons, Behead and torture inocent people, attacked america and call it the great satan an then wonder why we blew up 2 of their countries. Islam is supressive, islam is a cult, and islam is the machine that breeds terrorists. Its a complete crok of shit and you wonder why i hate it Quote
Gallytuck Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 You can rant all you want, but it doesnt change the fact that Islam is fucked up. Mohammed for instance, was a pedophile, rapist, and murderer. He had a 6 year old wife and constimated the marriage when she was 9. What a sick bastard. Their are numerous historical texts that tell of his raids and murder of inocent jews and christians. So much for reading it on the shitter. No wonder they have to force themselves to read one page every day. You could go through that bastard within a week if you could use it for shithouse reading. Not the most efficient people. Quote
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted April 3, 2006 Author Posted April 3, 2006 Nazz, Your logic is inescapable, but I fear it is wasted on retards who can not comprehend it. Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
Hamza123 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 You can rant all you want, but it doesnt change the fact that Islam is fucked up. Mohammed for instance, was a pedophile, rapist, and murderer. He had a 6 year old wife and constimated the marriage when she was 9. What a sick bastard. Their are numerous historical texts that tell of his raids and murder of inocent jews and christians. Now lets go into the part of him being a flase prophet. Specificly among the ones that the bible warns about. Their were to be no prophets after jesus until his second coming. And i like the fact that Islam denounces that jesus was crucified yet not only the bible states that he was, but historical roman records do to. Also, the bible had many figures that contributed to it, where as the quran is only by Mohammeds word. I dontthink it would be a good idea to follow the word of a rapist, murderer, and pedophile either. All mohammed did was steal parts of christianity, judaism, hinduism, and put them together in his own little way and twist them to his liking. He even stole the symbol for allah from hinduism aswell. Further proof of how much bullshit Islam is. It even tells you how you have to shit. I could go on and on listing all the fucked up things that the quran tells you to do, but it wont. Most of the people here already know that islam should have never seen the light of day. Just remember that muslims get bent out of shape over cartoons, Behead and torture inocent people, attacked america and call it the great satan an then wonder why we blew up 2 of their countries. Islam is supressive, islam is a cult, and islam is the machine that breeds terrorists. Its a complete crok of shit and you wonder why i hate it YOU HAVE NO PROOF OF YOUR ACCUSATIONS OF MUHAMMED... AND YOU BASE YOUR ARGUMENT ON A RULE THAT ISN'T EVEN ENFORCED. THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR IT... WHAT DO YOU CARE ON HOW PEOPLE TAKE SHITS?? WOW! You're evil becuase you have constipation!! Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Skaterdude409 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 YOU HAVE NO PROOF OF YOUR ACCUSATIONS OF MUHAMMED... AND YOU BASE YOUR ARGUMENT ON A RULE THAT ISN'T EVEN ENFORCED. THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR IT... WHAT DO YOU CARE ON HOW PEOPLE TAKE SHITS?? WOW! You're evil becuase you have constipation!! Mohammed did have a 6 year old wife http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/ayesha.htm Mohammed murdered and raped http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/mohwar1.html You are blinded by a piece of shit prophet and cant comprehend all the lies that your "faith" feeds you. I take great comfort in the fact that US soldiers are killing muslims every day. Quote
Hamza123 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 I will not waste my time with you anymore. You are entrenched in a vicious belief system, you plaster the threads with reams of justifications and try to spin your belief into something other then reality. You try to show some kind of injustice to Muslims in America etc. yet you ignore the fact that a westerner is guaranteed death if he walks around in the Arab world. You also seem to ignore the fact that the media is engaged in a “toned down” & lopsided reporting agenda of the goings-on’s in the Arab world, the truth of the matter is the Media is doing the world a service in these acts, if they were to report things as they are, unedited and truthfully, you would not be able to stop the free world from tearing the Arab world apart. As far as Muslims in America goes after 9/11 it is like Carlos Mencia the comedian says. Not an exact quote: After 9/11 the Hispanics and blacks looked at the Arabs and said Tag your it !! In America every class of people have been IT at one time or another, the Irish, the Polish, the Italians the Germans, the Japanese the blacks the Latinos and now it’s the Arabs turn, TAG your IT, thanks mother fuckers. Tada-duh-Duh!!! My own opinion: I would not expect to be treated to good if the town I come from and my family was known for being cannibals etc.. even though I myself am not a cannibal I would understand peoples reluctance to invite me over for dinner. Spin? Spin what shit. Islam wasn't even common in the US before 9/11. And now it's being interpreted soley on the principles based by your ass-fucking corrupt government and media. After 9/11 the Hispanics and blacks looked at the Arabs and said Tag your it !! In America every class of people have been IT at one time or another, the Irish, the Polish, the Italians the Germans, the Japanese the blacks the Latinos and now it’s the Arabs turn, TAG your IT, thanks mother fuckers. Tada-duh-Duh!!! Except it's not a game of TAG. It's more like puppets, where the white do everything and control whos "IT". You know in your minds thats things are fucked up, and you don't even like to fix it, yet you complain about evil in Islam. In the video I linked you, you saw how the white guy, when dressed like a Muslim, was treated horribly, and for what ?? He all of a sudden as to say sorry now... Well kudos to you America, you've really fought for the under-dog this time. Oh and I am not a terrorist, therefore I shouldn't be treated like one. You also seem to ignore the fact that the media is engaged in a “toned down” & lopsided reporting agenda of the goings-on’s in the Arab world, the truth of the matter is the Media is doing the world a service in these acts, if they were to report things as they are, unedited and truthfully, you would not be able to stop the free world from tearing the Arab world apart. Toned down my hairy Arab ass. Now all of a sudden Jihad means I have to go kill a bunch of westerners. BULLSHIT, thats what KITAL is, and KITAL IS TOTALLY FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM. Jihad is when a Muslim struggles to do something, yet works at it. I am doing Jihad by going to school, by praying, by brushing my teeth... However, because of such media havens like Fox News and CNN, Jihad all of a sudden has it's own meaning in the western world... I don't expect praise from you NazzNegg. Infact, I couldn't give two shits. The truth is the truth, and I am at any means to defend it. unedited and truthfully, you would not be able to stop the free world from tearing the Arab world apart. You forget, westerners are only reporting bullshit going on BECAUSE of occupation. Lets see, if YOU had a dictator like SADDAM, and a super-power like the US came to invade your country, would you fight for SADDAM against the occupying forces, OR WOULD YOU FIGHT FOR YOUR FREEDOM AND YOUR FAMILY. Anyone who denies the US in Iraq forcefully gets killed, and for what, because he doesn't want his son getting squished by a big fucking rock becuase some US Pilot decided to bomb a neighbourhood "suspected" terrorists. I do believe however this will pass on like you said. Like with the Japanese, the Blacks, the Latinos, the Natives... Yet I don't know if descriminent generation even compares with the rest. We have yet to find out, and with a world of bullshit already going on you're only making it worse. You're making it harder for me, for every Muslim trying to live life. You're giving a sword to all the true evil people who try to clinch the Muslim persona and are really evil people who kill innocents. You want me to fight and denounce terrorism, but as I run to do so, you trip me, by just generalizing us all together, and letting the terrorist say "Look, I told you so, we're right, lets kill more infidels"... If this is the epitmy of your patriotism, than you disgust me. Ill say it myself as a born American, your fore-fathers definitley didn't fight for this kind of bullshit, from neither terrorists, or people like yourself. You don't compare to terrorists, I know that, terrorists are all at the bottom of the barrel, BUT, you're only adding fuel to the flame. My own opinion: I would not expect to be treated to good if the town I come from and my family was known for being cannibals etc.. even though I myself am not a cannibal I would understand peoples reluctance to invite me over for dinner. Fine than, lets clinch any fault a nationality or religion has ever made in entire world history and judge people soley on it. THIS DEFINITLEY IS NOT WHAT AMERICAN STANDARDS WERE BASED ON. You have the situation all wrong. You think that we should accept the shit treatement because the people who call themselves Muslims are terrorists. But wait, you want Muslims to root out terror too. So now you treat us like shit and expect us to help you... Hmm.. Well I am not surprised... Infact by the way you treat us, I'd fucking appreciate the way we take it. We don't do what terrorists do, and you should fucking notice that, and stop the horrible treatment... I'm not just talking racism, I am talking about people dieing. People are fighting two wars in Iraq, the US Occupation CONFLICTING with their everyday lives, and the bombs that target US Soldiers made by terrorists, civilians are caught in the middle trying to deal. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Skaterdude409 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 Muslim = ignorant piece of shit. nough said Quote
Hamza123 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 Mohammed did have a 6 year old wife http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/ayesha.htm Mohammed murdered and raped http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/mohwar1.html You are blinded by a piece of shit prophet and cant comprehend all the lies that your "faith" feeds you. I take great comfort in the fact that US soldiers are killing muslims every day. FaithFreedom is made by an Iranian Christian WHO HATES ARABS. His hate escilated to an extent in which he devouts his life to trying to proove Islam wrong. So far it's not working, http://www.islamicity.com gets more hits than http://www.faithfreedom.org and http://www.religionofpeace.com INCONTROVERTABLE FACT NO. 1: Only the Holy Qur Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Hamza123 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 Muslim = ignorant piece of shit. nough said Join the Army buddy. Go to Iraq. See for yourself. Don't even begin to tell me about Muslims and the Middle East. I have been to every arab-speaking country except for Kuwait. I know exactly what it's like, I know what Islam is, and what 1.5 Billion people in the world know. People like you WILL NEVER stop Islam from growing, many have tried, and many have failed, and are failing. Thanks to Allah sabhan ou atala. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Skaterdude409 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 Join the Army buddy. Go to Iraq. See for yourself. Don't even begin to tell me about Muslims and the Middle East. I have been to every arab-speaking country except for Kuwait. I know exactly what it's like, I know what Islam is, and what 1.5 Billion people in the world know. People like you WILL NEVER stop Islam from growing, many have tried, and many have failed, and are failing. Thanks to Allah sabhan ou atala. Christianity = 2 billion. Christianty = modern world. Modern world has the capabilty to destroy the entire middle east within a few hours. Trust me, we can stop you. Quote
Skaterdude409 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 Many hadiths are not even true hadiths. Many of them are made up and mistakenly published, many of them have been so utterly distorted. Including satya's! The Qur'an never states Muhammed (pbuh) having sexual intercourse with Aisha, however she is taken in the same situation as Mary was. Without sexual intercourse. And according to history and the Old Testement, MARY WAS 9, when she found out she had Jesus. Mary was a prostitute. Prostitues arent 9 buddy Quote
Quarky1.0 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 Actually it is the socialist left that we need to fear which includes most of the neocons. Of course, when you get most of your perspective on history from movies produced by the left you would not know that. I love this, I know it coming, but I just can't help but read your crap. My perspective is from history, film and popular media are a way of showing this to the general population, if you don't know that, then I suggest you do a class in popular culture. Once again you are banging on about the socialists, if it wasn't for socialism you wouldn't have public health, public education, public services or anything that holds up society. But then again in the USA your government takes great pains in making its people as narrow minded and thick as possible. All dictatorship have been right wing, i.e. fascism, and I have proved you wrong on past occasions turned out to be not a leftist government but right wing. Your ruling part in the good old USA is a right wing, religious party, just the type of party to form a dictatorship, so you Hugo a go go, are what is wrong with USA, wake up! Quote
Hamza123 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 Christianity = 2 billion. Christianty = modern world. Modern world has the capabilty to destroy the entire middle east within a few hours. Trust me, we can stop you. Haha, been there done that, didn't work. The world is growing at a rate of 1.2 percent Islam is growing at a rate of 1.6 percent. If you do the math, we'll be there before 2050... Oh yeah btw, Bible = 50,000 Mistakes found in it by Christians themselves.. http://www.jamaat.net/bible/AwakeArticle(1957).html Bible = 50,000 Mistakes x = Corrections x + Bible = 66 Versions and people STILL AREN'T HAPPY! Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Skaterdude409 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 Haha, been there done that, didn't work. The world is growing at a rate of 1.2 percent Islam is growing at a rate of 1.6 percent. If you do the math, we'll be there before 2050... Oh yeah btw, Bible = 50,000 Mistakes found in it by Christians themselves.. http://www.jamaat.net/bible/AwakeArticle(1957).html Bible = 50,000 Mistakes x = Corrections x + Bible = 66 Versions and people STILL AREN'T HAPPY! Doesnt change the fact that your burning in hell along with every single muslim and your piece of shit false prophet By the way. The bible was written by men and we know that it is prone to have mistakes, at least it wasnt based on one mans word like mohammed Quote
Hamza123 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 Mary was a prostitute. Prostitues arent 9 buddy You even DEFY christianity in such a statement, and it is your belief against mine. Many "Christian Scholars" say she is a prostitute yet the Old Testiment and the Ingill (Gospel), say otherwise. My bad, she was 12, I might have confused the ages there as I was reading A LOT of articles. St. Mary's parents, Joachim and Anne, were righteous people in front of God. They prayed earnestly asking God to grant them a child. Six years after they were married, they had Mary, and they knew that she was a special gift from God. They gave her the name "MARY" which means "Royal Incense" because she would become a special offering to God. When Mary was three years old, Joachim and Anne took her to the temple and dedicated their child to God. She spent nine years in the temple. When Mary was twelve years old, Zacharias the priest wanted to find a suitable man who could take care of her. He gathered the canes of her male relatives, and put them in the temple. The next day the cane of Joseph the carpenter budded, just like Aaron's rod in the Old Testament (Num 17:8). So Mary and Joseph became engaged. "Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not wanting to make her a public example, was minded to put her away secretly. But while he thought about these things, behold, and angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying 'Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceive in her is of the Holy Spirit. And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will save His people from their sins.'" (Mt 1:18-21) Cached, just so you can read easier. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15464b.htm Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Skaterdude409 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 You even DEFY christianity in such a statement, and it is your belief against mine. Many "Christian Scholars" say she is a prostitute yet the Old Testiment and the Ingill (Gospel), say otherwise. My bad, she was 12, I might have confused the ages there as I was reading A LOT of articles. Cached, just so you can read easier. http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:YkkqGFK9jaEJ:www.suscopts.org/stmaryatlanta/stmary.html+mary+was+12+years+old+when+she+gave+birth+to+jesus&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=5 You should have said the virgin mary you idiot. The prostitute is mary magdalene. Your crossing the 2 Quote
Hamza123 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 Doesnt change the fact that your burning in hell along with every single muslim and your piece of shit false prophet By the way. The bible was written by men and we know that it is prone to have mistakes, at least it wasnt based on one mans word like mohammed HAHAHAHAHAHAH OMG, I'M TEARING... So the Bible doesn't even claim to be written from the word of God and we should strictly believe in the writing of MEN?!?! WOW!! Islam is soley based on the word of God... Not 3 men, not 5 men, not 66 books. And no, I am not burning in hell, I am typing to you right now and I am enjoying every bit of this. I have many things going for me, and I have had my life saved many times, like when my appendix burst, and doctorts couldn't do anything. They left me for dead, and some how I healed on my own. This was in the middle of North Africa too, visiting my family. I also grew up very poor... Now I am living with my mother, who was poor also, and is about to be sworn in as a Class C Attorney anytime this month. Allah (swt), has blessed me with many things, I stay true to him and pray. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Hamza123 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 You should have said the virgin mary you idiot. The prostitute is mary magdalene. Your crossing the 2 And thats what I meant... Which other mary were you talking about ?? I mixed my links up. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Skaterdude409 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 HAHAHAHAHAHAH OMG, I'M TEARING... So the Bible doesn't even claim to be written from the word of God and we should strictly believe in the writing of MEN?!?! WOW!! Islam is soley based on the word of God... Not 3 men, not 5 men, not 66 books. And no, I am not burning in hell, I am typing to you right now and I am enjoying every bit of this. I have many things going for me, and I have had my life saved many times, like when my appendix burst, and doctorts couldn't do anything. They left me for dead, and some how I healed on my own. This was in the middle of North Africa too, visiting my family. I also grew up very poor... Now I am living with my mother, who was poor also, and is about to be sworn in as a Class C Attorney anytime this month. Allah (swt), has blessed me with many things, I stay true to him and pray. islam is based on the word of 1 man. He is the only one who contributed to it. the bible had numerous people that contributed And i said you WILL burn in hell alon with the rest of the muslims learn to read Quote
Skaterdude409 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 And thats what I meant... Which other mary were you talking about ?? I mixed my links up. read my post agian. you really need to learn to read. Quote
Hamza123 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 that your burning in hell along You need to learn to type. Especially learn the difference between your and you're... and You're is present tense not future tense DUMBASS. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Hamza123 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 islam is based on the word of 1 man. He is the only one who contributed to it. the bible had numerous people that contributed And i said you WILL burn in hell alon with the rest of the muslims learn to read I QUOTED YOU ABOVE, PROVING YOU WRONG! It's along not "alon"... LEARN TO THINK. And he is not the only one who contributed to it. He had the help of Allah the Almighty, Gabriel, his companions who helped him through his struggles. He never had some divine right shit where his companions believed that you are born Royal, and chosen by god with special powers... He never believed the pope could walk into a 6 x 7 foot room and talk to god... Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Skaterdude409 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 You need to learn to type. Especially learn the difference between your and you're... and You're is present tense not future tense DUMBASS. LOL. Thats the best you can come up with. You must not use instant messager. Its common place to misspell things where as its pretty easy to read, even if it is misspelled Quote
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