Hamza123 Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 you just sling shit back everytime I put you in your place. Ham-Za' date=' nobody gives a shit about your blatherings.[/quote'] It's Hamza btw ... Now tell me thats not ignorant . Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Gallytuck Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 i say we boot Hamza123 to the idiot box for being an ignorant muslim I say you take your turn in the idiot box for suggesting that. He's correct. Quote
Gallytuck Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 The history of Christianity is in its most pronounced traits, a history of war, - one single long war against both outer and inner enemies. Wars fought on behalf of or under direct command of the Church, civil wars, offensive wars and wars fought against people with other views and beliefs than the official Church. The annihilation of whole peoples, like the Vandals and the Goths, the Indians in central and south America, and the slaughter of the Slavic peoples in the east, genocide of Jews and Muslims. In the eyes of the church and its historians these peoples were just criminals trapped in the dark night of paganism, and for whom the Church spared no atrocity or means too cruel to secure their conversion. Those who did not convert were killed. If not Christian, your life was not worth much. There are not many among the peoples of the world who have not felt the Christian mission drive on their bodies. The Church Quote
Skaterdude409 Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 I say you take your turn in the idiot box for suggesting that. He's correct. And how much more bullshit besides that did he post? Quote
Gallytuck Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 The other bullshit doesn't really matter. He's made you look like a right eejit. The only thing you can do to save some face is to start up a wee campaign against the Christians. Otherwise you'll be discarded off-hand as a hatemongering monkey instead of an American citizen with a very real and very legitimate concern over the ideals of the Islamic world. Sure, Christians aren't sending out suicide bombers or preparing for nuclear confrontations in Iran but in the past they've done unimaginably horrible things to people with the same goal that Islam has in mind right now: to spread their faith to every person on this planet. Must suck to be bettered by a windowlicker, eh? Quote
Skaterdude409 Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 The other bullshit doesn't really matter. He's made you look like a right eejit. The only thing you can do to save some face is to start up a wee campaign against the Christians. Otherwise you'll be discarded off-hand as a hatemongering monkey instead of an American citizen with a very real and very legitimate concern over the ideals of the Islamic world. Sure, Christians aren't sending out suicide bombers or preparing for nuclear confrontations in Iran but in the past they've done unimaginably horrible things to people with the same goal that Islam has in mind right now: to spread their faith to every person on this planet. Must suck to be bettered by a windowlicker, eh? What the fuck are you talking about, save some face? all he has done is act like every other muslim and lash out when hes losing. and at least christians apologized for the crusades. We have already proved on this bored several times how fucked up and wrong islam is and their is no reason to do it again Quote
Hamza123 Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 christians apologized for the crusades Yep, that apology will sure as hell bring all those people back... And it wasn't only the crusades. It was hundreds of years of this shit. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Skaterdude409 Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 Yep, that apology will sure as hell bring all those people back... And it wasn't only the crusades. It was hundreds of years of this shit. We lost people to moron. and look who is constantly killing people now, muslims Quote
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted March 30, 2006 Author Posted March 30, 2006 We lost people to moron. and look who is constantly killing people now, muslims Haven't you noticed his (and the other islamo-fascists) retorts to logic are always one of two things: Either Christianity is wrong, or the crusades; justify everything. And he says my debates are week... Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
Skaterdude409 Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 Haven't you noticed his (and the other islamo-fascists) retorts to logic are always one of two things: Either Christianity is wrong, or the crusades; justify everything. And he says my debates are week... They always seem to lash out when they lose an argument Quote
jokersarewild Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 Well, in certain parts of the middle east, if you try islam, you are forced to be islamic the rest of your life and be killed... Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad!
Gallytuck Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Are there also fags who are not fags by choice? or maybe there are rapists who are not rapists by choice heck I bet there is a whole covey of serial killers who are serial killers because they have no choice. I cant believe MRIH let you slide on your first post on pg. 1 of this thread Quote
Gallytuck Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Seriously, what the fuck? I guess >>>this<<< completely slipped your notice. Sheeple version Quote
Hamza123 Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Wow... In all my weeks of debating with MRIH, I never wanted to use this... EVERYONE SEE FOR YOURSELF... http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac2.htm#links http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac4.htm#links http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac6.htm#links Oh this one is especially for you MRIH... http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac12.htm#links . Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Skaterdude409 Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Wow... In all my weeks of debating with MRIH, I never wanted to use this... EVERYONE SEE FOR YOURSELF... http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac2.htm#links http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac4.htm#links http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac6.htm#links Oh this one is especially for you MRIH... http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac12.htm#links . wow complete bullshit from sites that have no credibility. Quote
Hamza123 Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 And like anything you say does?? EVERYTHING FROM THAT SITE IS FROM THE BIBLE AND QURAN... BIBLE... http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/_INDEX.HTM QURAN... http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/ I did the research, so don't bother with me unless you do it yourself too, or else you'd be the one with no credibility... I hate to jump to conclusions but your answers to me are just complete horse-shit. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Skaterdude409 Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 And like anything you say does?? EVERYTHING FROM THAT SITE IS FROM THE BIBLE AND QURAN... BIBLE... http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/_INDEX.HTM QURAN... http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/ I did the research, so don't bother with me unless you do it yourself too, or else you'd be the one with no credibility... I hate to jump to conclusions but your answers to me are just complete horse-shit. shaky interpertations and links to sites that dont have much credibility. answering christianity is an extremely biased site that backwards muslims attempt to discredit christianity. I read through that site a bit and couldnt stop myself from luaghing uncontrolably. When you use reliable sources that have credit backing them, then ill consider them. Quote
Hamza123 Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 You see, none of that matters, the webmaster clearly states all the versus of different parts of different bibles in which contridiction is found, and it's STRONG. So you see, interpretation isn't really a key factor... Ill take some versus the webmaster even states and quote them directly from the bible if you want... I'd only be waisting my time though as he does it for me. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Hamza123 Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Oh, BTW, Were you laughing (Not "luaghing") from disbelief that all of it is true? Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Skaterdude409 Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 You see, none of that matters, the webmaster clearly states all the versus of different parts of different bibles in which contridiction is found, and it's STRONG. So you see, interpretation isn't really a key factor... Ill take some versus the webmaster even states and quote them directly from the bible if you want... I'd only be waisting my time though as he does it for me. If you read through that bullshit site, you can see how idiotic it is. It goes as far as saying Jesus wasnt crucified when even the Romans have records of the cruificiton. Your sources are shit Quote
Skaterdude409 Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Oh, BTW, Were you laughing (Not "luaghing") from disbelief that all of it is true? Now you go so low as to pick out spelling errors. Switching 2 letters when typing is common Quote
Hamza123 Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 1- The NT confirms that only Peter witnessed the crucifixion: First of all, it is important to know that according to the New Testament itself, all of Jesus' Disciples fled for their lives on the night of crucifixion. None of them witnessed Jesus' crucifixion except for one, that is Saint Peter! He was the lone and only witness of the actual crucifixion event. Let us look at what the Bible's New Testament says: Matthew 26:34-35, 55-57, 69-75 34 Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. 35 Peter said unto him, Though I should die with thee, yet will I not deny thee. Likewise also said all the disciples. ....... 55 In that same hour said Jesus to the multitudes, Are ye come out as against a thief with swords and staves for to take me? I sat daily with you teaching in the temple, and ye laid no hold on me. 56 But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled. 57 And they that had laid hold on Jesus led him away to Caiaphas the high priest, where the scribes and the elders were assembled. 69 Now Peter sat without in the palace: and a damsel came unto him, saying, Thou also wast with Jesus of Galilee. 70 But he denied before them all, saying, I know not what thou sayest. 71 And when he was gone out into the porch, another maid saw him, and said unto them that were there, This fellow was also with Jesus of Nazareth. 72 And again he denied with an oath, I do not know the man. 73 And after a while came unto him they that stood by, and said to Peter, Surely thou also art one of them; for thy speech bewrayeth thee. 74 Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew. 75 And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly. Now as we clearly see, Peter did witness the so-called crucifixion event. He was present there. The only thing that saved him from death is his denial that he knew Jesus. Otherwise, he would've got crucified that night. PROOVE MY SOURCES WRONG THAN... 6- Notice the "tree" part where Jesus was sitting on top of. There are some mixed signals/evidence in the NT that prove the Truthfulness of the Apocalypse of Peter. The NT itself can not make up its mind on whether the so-called crucifixion took place on a cross or on a tree. It seems that many of the "blind" ones back then got confused with whether or not Jesus got crucified on the cross or on the tree. The mention of the "tree" was obviously done by Peter and his followers. But as years and centuries passed by (the NT was written around year 300....300 years after Jesus!), false stories and lies were fabricated and rumored regarding Jesus, the cross and the tree. Let us look at the following verses: Tree? Acts 5 29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. 30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. 31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. Acts 10 38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. 39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: 40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; Acts 13 28 And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain. 29 And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre. 30 But God raised him from the dead: Cross? Matthew 27 39 And they that passed by reviled him, wagging their heads, 40 And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross. 41 Likewise also the chief priests mocking him, with the scribes and elders, said, Matthew 27 41 Likewise also the chief priests mocking him, with the scribes and elders, said, 42 He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him. 43 He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God. Mark 15 29 And they that passed by railed on him, wagging their heads, and saying, Ah, thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, 30 Save thyself, and come down from the cross. 31 Likewise also the chief priests mocking said among themselves with the scribes, He saved others; himself he cannot save. Mark 15 31 Likewise also the chief priests mocking said among themselves with the scribes, He saved others; himself he cannot save. 32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him. 33 And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour. Luke 23 25 And he released unto them him that for sedition and murder was cast into prison, whom they had desired; but he delivered Jesus to their will. 26 And as they led him away, they laid hold upon one Simon, a Cyrenian, coming out of the country, and on him they laid the cross, that he might bear it after Jesus. 27 And there followed him a great company of people, and of women, which also bewailed and lamented him. John 19 18 Where they crucified him, and two other with him, on either side one, and Jesus in the midst. 19 And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS. 20 This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin. During that time, Rome was collapsing, and it was suffered many internal corruptions and outside threats. It even suffered conflicts from Romans going against each others. The following sources prove this beyond doubt: http://www.answering-christianity.com/sins_of_boy_jesus.wav http://www.answering-christianity.com/apocalypse_of_peter.wav http://www.answering-christianity.com/romans_persecution.wav - A portion from the "Banned from the Bible" documentary film. Historians, theologians and books' authors were the spokes people in this film. So it is very reliable and the information in it is both authentic and objective. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Hamza123 Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 I understand your situation of denial... I was there awhile back just in a much different scenario. I'm not really gonna' bagg you for it. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Hamza123 Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 The tree part I quoted from a REAL bible/christianity website http://bible.cc/acts/5-30.htm. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Skaterdude409 Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 I understand your situation of denial... I was there awhile back just in a much different scenario. I'm not really gonna' bagg you for it. Your fucking retarded, no wonder why your in the box. Romans have records of it. It doenst matter how many deciples saw it or not. The Romans, A- did it, and B- many historians of the time refer to it for the next few centuries. Their is proof outside the bible all about Jesus. All your doing is showing parts of the story and trying to bend it to your wishes. Quote
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