jokersarewild Posted March 25, 2006 Author Posted March 25, 2006 I hear and understand the things you folks are saying. I've seen the various websites, I've heard the opinions great and small all along the way. To each his own... for me? I've read the books, done the courses, gotten the "auditing", I've applied the data, I worked as a staff member for some years, and so on... I know Scientology. I don't, "know about" it...I know IT. I'm a happy and healthy grown up person and am not troubled by much at all. I enjoy incredible warm and loving relationships with my family, extended family, and a large circle of friends. I'm well thought of and dearly loved, and in turn, think well of others and dearly love in return! I make friends with seatmates on the train, in subways, and grocery stores. I don't preach or push my views on others, but I'm always willing to offer help or supply it if requested. I also enjoy this website...in all it's guises........ Have you read 1984? You are like Parsons... Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad!
skategreen Posted March 25, 2006 Posted March 25, 2006 Scategreen How does one come to realize his capabilities? How does one come to achieve new levels of conciousness? I asked a question or questions!!! talk to me I'm all ears. I sorta skipped over your question, based upon the salutation...perhaps I was mistaken and the Scat part of the Scategreen was a typo.... Main Entry: 2 "scat" Function: noun Etymology: perhaps from Greek skat-, skOr excrement -- more at SCATOLOGY : an animal fecal dropping (I thought perhaps you were being rude) ... The answer to your question... from what I found over time.... Read a book, use the info...do a course, use the info....partake in the counselling, ("auditing") and.... one becomes more able and has more of a bounce in the step. Quote The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. - Buddha
sixes Posted March 25, 2006 Posted March 25, 2006 You guys are just killin me! It's so funny to hear all the endless nonsense spouted.... It's like listening to old Aunt Lil's stalwart assertions as to the veracity of Globe and National Enquirer stories..... Sorry folks, if you haven't read one of his books, if you haven't done one of his courses, you're simply repeating stuff you've "heard". I've been doing the courses, using the data, and reading the books since 1977. I love the stuff. I've helped ...oh just a ton of folk with things over the years, using things I've learned. I remember Mum defending my choices to some old hag of a neighbor yammering at her... She said, "well I think it's great! Lea says it's helped her and she's grown up to be a damn fine daughter!" Good Old Mum...(smile) .. You all don't have to embrace it...I'm just trying to say... you might not have true data. I hope El'ron comes back and takes away your skates! Quote .
skategreen Posted March 25, 2006 Posted March 25, 2006 I hope El'ron comes back and takes away your skates! AWwwwww Sixes!!!! Whadd I ever do to you my puppy? Quote The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. - Buddha
sixes Posted March 25, 2006 Posted March 25, 2006 AWwwwww Sixes!!!! Whadd I ever do to you my puppy? Well for one you are defending Scientology. What next ,are you going to tell us you eat people? Skate I like you ,but you scare me with your blind walks into cults like this. Quote .
Lethalfind Posted March 25, 2006 Posted March 25, 2006 I have to say that after reading alot of what Skate writes I love her style but I fear her religion...is my fear colored by my bad experience...ABSOLUTLEY but I can't change this. I happen to believe some of what I have heard about Scientology. I don't know how anyone could defend some of the things that Tom Cruise alone has said in public about his religion. He freaked me out in that interview where he was acting like a rabid dog with a respected interviewer where he was ridiculing Brooke Sheilds for talking frankly about her post partum depression, how he feels about psychiatric care etc. He came across as a real nutter...actually very like someone who is bipolar and in a manic, grandiose stage. While I do believe that some doctors are pill pushers rather then trying to take care of a problem, I believe that some people will NEVER be ok without psychiatric medication. I have come to believe that Scientology talks against this psychiatric medication because it makes it easier for them to control their people. However I am not saying that I think Skate is a bad person, I think she has shown (as much as one can via the internet) that she is a thoughtful, caring person. Maybe what she has learned from them is good for her, maybe if she were in deeper, like living with them, this would not be the case. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
jokersarewild Posted March 25, 2006 Author Posted March 25, 2006 However I am not saying that I think Skate is a bad person, I think she has shown (as much as one can via the internet) that she is a thoughtful, caring person. Maybe what she has learned from them is good for her, maybe if she were in deeper, like living with them, this would not be the case. I absolutely agree. Skate is a good person...in a cult... Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad!
hugo Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 The Great Goombah tells me scientology is a load of crap. Praise Goombah. Let us celebrate his goodness by imbibing in the fermented crops of the field. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
jokersarewild Posted March 26, 2006 Author Posted March 26, 2006 Go Great Goombah! Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad!
phreakwars Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 So then lets have a poll.. who thinks Scientology is a valid religion ?? . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
sixes Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 I love Science ,but having READ how fucking crazy this shit is. I think you should get the demons drilled out of your skull with every book you buy. Quote .
skategreen Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 I have to say that after reading alot of what Skate writes I love her style but I fear her religion...is my fear colored by my bad experience...ABSOLUTLEY but I can't change this. I happen to believe some of what I have heard about Scientology. I don't know how anyone could defend some of the things that Tom Cruise alone has said in public about his religion. He freaked me out in that interview where he was acting like a rabid dog with a respected interviewer where he was ridiculing Brooke Sheilds for talking frankly about her post partum depression, how he feels about psychiatric care etc. He came across as a real nutter...actually very like someone who is bipolar and in a manic, grandiose stage. While I do believe that some doctors are pill pushers rather then trying to take care of a problem, I believe that some people will NEVER be ok without psychiatric medication. I have come to believe that Scientology talks against this psychiatric medication because it makes it easier for them to control their people. However I am not saying that I think Skate is a bad person, I think she has shown (as much as one can via the internet) that she is a thoughtful, caring person. Maybe what she has learned from them is good for her, maybe if she were in deeper, like living with them, this would not be the case. Thanks Leth.. Course I'd never expect anyone to agree with me on all of my choices. (what a boring world that would be!)... I have met all kinds of Scientologists. Fat, thin, old, young, enthusiastic, jaded.. Heck, I'd guess anyone who just walked in and bought a book could call themself a Scientologist. It's not what you call yourself...simply adopting the label doesn't actually mean much. It's what you do with it and in it. It's how you conduct your life. My friends are not all Scientologists and I do not cultivate friendship relationships with every person who is a Scientologist... I have some very close friends who are agnostic, atheist, Jewish, Christian, some merely calling themself "spiritual", etc. Wish I had a Quaker friend...love their Garb. There are assholes, weirdos, ego maniacs, and slightly twisted fucks in just about all walks of life. I've met all of the above who have called themself a Scientologist. (Shudder, "Gene Wirchenko" - EWWWWW!) But then, I've met the above who called themselves Christian, agnostic, etc. But I do have a huge circle of friends and acquaintances (and a few family members) who are Scientologists. I love them to pieces and they enrich my life as well. I have met some stellar beings...truly wonderful folk. I don't adhere to all religions, yet I have a basic agreement with them. I really agree and support anything or any person who is attempting to improve conditions in their own lives and in the lives of others. Therefore...I really like the Red Cross and love giving blood. I like to think I'm "saving the lives of babies". I like the March of Dimes and participating in Walk-A-Thons. I worked in Nursing Homes and thus, fell in love with old people.. Helping others and just being "damn fine folk" ... it's what makes the grass so bloody green. I support other's rights to betterment beliefs. I may not sit and listen to them...(those who grab you by the lapel and insist you're going to Hell or some such thing) but I would take positive action to help protect the rights of others to the pursuit of their own helpful activities and beliefs. Where the beliefs cause harm or incite others to harm - fuck 'em. I support ... People! Quote The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. - Buddha
skategreen Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 So then lets have a poll.. who thinks Scientology is a valid religion ?? . . Neener Neener Neener!!!! Your silly old poll won't take away our tax status! pbthuuuuub!!!!!!!! Quote The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. - Buddha
sixes Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 Neener Neener Neener!!!! Your silly old poll won't take away our tax status! pbthuuuuub!!!!!!!! I knew the was some Helter Skelter shit going on with you..... Quote .
skategreen Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 I knew the was some Helter Skelter shit going on with you..... Heyyyy buddy...I've seen your profile pic...You're REALLY one to talk! As for twisted...did you see what I do to Barbies? Posted in the Gallery.... you should see what the Giant plastic Dinosaurs are doing with the Barbies in the Garden. Quote The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. - Buddha
sixes Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 Heyyyy buddy...I've seen your profile pic...You're REALLY one to talk! As for twisted...did you see what I do to Barbies? Posted in the Gallery.... you should see what the Giant plastic Dinosaurs are doing with the Barbies in the Garden. Yeah well atleast I don't eat my students finger paints. Is this you skategreen? hehe -->http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0112508/1-15.jpg?seq=7 .. Quote .
Vortex Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 Scientology may seem out of my realm and a bit odd to me...but i have no objections to them or their beliefs because as of now they are staying out of mine... I Have no probelms with people who are respectful of others...but the moment they interefere wtih me and decide im burning or going somewhere unpleasant when i die and want to change my crap...then i have a problem... Skatie.....hold your E-meter thing and be happy!.... we all deserve to be happy and undisturbed when we are doing nothing wrong to anyone else!......Just becasue a few celebs who are in their own right wacked out doesnt mean your beliefs are! Peace to the out! Quote -I don't know about you...but I am SICK and tired of being nice and understanding!!! -The Liver is evil and must be punished! -The Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. How can your opinion be the correct one....if, infact, its only an opinion?!?!
Cogito Ergo Sum Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 I hear and understand the things you folks are saying. I've seen the various websites, I've heard the opinions great and small all along the way. To each his own... for me? I've read the books, done the courses, gotten the "auditing", I've applied the data, I worked as a staff member for some years, and so on... I know Scientology. I don't, "know about" it...I know IT. I'm a happy and healthy grown up person and am not troubled by much at all. I enjoy incredible warm and loving relationships with my family, extended family, and a large circle of friends. I'm well thought of and dearly loved, and in turn, think well of others and dearly love in return! I make friends with seatmates on the train, in subways, and grocery stores. I don't preach or push my views on others, but I'm always willing to offer help or supply it if requested. I also enjoy this website...in all it's guises........ I sit here sipping my coffee, preparing to go attack my bar sink in a blazing display of repair abilities, and chuckle at the responses you have evoked... How predictable and limited of view they all are (except Vortex...a gay God among mere mortal men)... I wonder what Buddha would think of you...no I don't...I'm pretty certain I know... The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. . - Buddha I wonder if all of the naysayers are even capable of a handful of the HABIT of good deeds you do so regularly Skategreen? Curious. Quote . I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/
Cogito Ergo Sum Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 Well for one you are defending Scientology. What next ,are you going to tell us you eat people? Skate I like you ,but you scare me with your blind walks into cults like this. Cults? Really. Says who? "Blind walks into" ?!?!?!?! What the fuck have you devoted 30+ years of your life to in the pursuit of study, self-introspection, self-improvement, and development of a tempered and delightful personality and way of living your life in a way that gives back more than you take? Oh, wait a minute sixes, I'll answer that for you....ABSOLUTELY JACK SHIT! and it shows. Personally, I'm quite interested in the activities of the largest CULT in the world. CHRISTIANITY. Take about mind control! Subjugation of the masses. Looting of the pocketbooks. Raping of the small children in every parish worldwide... Oh yes. You stupid plank... Nobody here has even got the intent behind my Avatar. Catholicism is the King Fool in a sea of fools. John Paul II was a interesting man, and I liked him, but he headed the largest cult the world has ever known. 1 Quote . I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/
Quarky1.0 Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 Religion, is a cult, it brainwashes its followers, tells them what to think, what to believe and conditions them into thinking there life is just fucking perfect and they need this parasitical relationship to survive. It screws people over with the promise of a better life after death and if they want this blessed existence they better fucking do what they Quote
skategreen Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 I sit here sipping my coffee, preparing to go attack my bar sink in a blazing display of repair abilities, and chuckle at the responses you have evoked... How predictable and limited of view they all are (except Vortex...a gay God among mere mortal men)... I wonder what Buddha would think of you...no I don't...I'm pretty certain I know... The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. . - Buddha I wonder if all of the naysayers are even capable of a handful of the HABIT of good deeds you do so regularly Skategreen? Curious. Good Lord, CES. What a wonderful quote! I'm saving that one. That's one for the Quote Wall. I've never been a supporter of the idea that we are leaves in the wind, merely effect, and it's all someone else's fault. Every step of the way...we're making choices. And yes indeed...choices can become habit! Being a positive effect - ie, allowing others to effect US, can be so much fun. But so often it's even ever so much more fun to create good effects on others. Hence... I like getting a nice present....but I just pig out on my own delight of creating things for others. I enjoy your friendship....but I must admit, I also enjoy creating that friendship. It's always a Win Win situation. I very much believe in the Goodness of Man. Even on this board... which I think we all join to let down our hair and be Assholes for Awhile (at first) .... the natural bent towards goodness breaks through and overrides. A good demonstration of the basic nature of Man... is to simply put a puppy in someone's lap. It's hard to maintain a Facade of Prickdom when you've a squirming little furball of happiness on your lap. Religion is always a hot topic. It's kinda fun! Quote The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. - Buddha
hugo Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 I support any means of keeping money out of the hands of the IRS. Let nuts worship any way they please. It is only government that has the power to coerce rational human beings into slavery. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
Lethalfind Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 I don't trust any organized religion but some are worse then others. Some are more likely to grab and surround someone and NOT let them go. I have no problem with people worshipping however they want, I have a problem when it intrudes into my life. One thing I have to say for Scientologist is that I have never had one knock on my door trying to hand out religious tracts...thats a mark in the positive column for them in my book. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
sixes Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 Cults? Really. Says who? "Blind walks into" ?!?!?!?! What the fuck have you devoted 30+ years of your life to in the pursuit of study, self-introspection, self-improvement, and development of a tempered and delightful personality and way of living your life in a way that gives back more than you take? Oh, wait a minute sixes, I'll answer that for you....ABSOLUTELY JACK SHIT! and it shows. Personally, I'm quite interested in the activities of the largest CULT in the world. CHRISTIANITY. Take about mind control! Subjugation of the masses. Looting of the pocketbooks. Raping of the small children in every parish worldwide... Oh yes. You stupid plank... Nobody here has even got the intent behind my Avatar. Catholicism is the King Fool in a sea of fools. John Paul II was a interesting man, and I liked him, but he headed the largest cult the world has ever known. Christians are the biggest cult of them all. I have no problem with Bible. It has many moral values that alot of people NEED to have. I don't aprove of shoving any mass organized religion in anyones' face. Skategreen likes this Scientology nonsense ,right on. I just want her to keep it on her side on the fence. Quote .
Lethalfind Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 Cults? Really. Says who? "Blind walks into" ?!?!?!?! What the fuck have you devoted 30+ years of your life to in the pursuit of study, self-introspection, self-improvement, and development of a tempered and delightful personality and way of living your life in a way that gives back more than you take? Oh, wait a minute sixes, I'll answer that for you....ABSOLUTELY JACK SHIT! and it shows. Personally, I'm quite interested in the activities of the largest CULT in the world. CHRISTIANITY. Take about mind control! Subjugation of the masses. Looting of the pocketbooks. Raping of the small children in every parish worldwide... Oh yes. You stupid plank... Nobody here has even got the intent behind my Avatar. Catholicism is the King Fool in a sea of fools. John Paul II was a interesting man, and I liked him, but he headed the largest cult the world has ever known. I absolutely agree with you CES. I was raised in a family where my Father was a retired minister. I had their religion shoved down my throat from the time I was an infant. One thing they were big on was talking about "freedom of choice". I asked my Father one time, how do I have freedom of choice in this religion you choose to follow, when you have been brain washing me with this drivel since before I could speak? He was speechless...a typical reaction I got when I spoke of religion to one of them. I told him they had taken my freedom of choice away, I had no idea of right and wrong independent of the teachings of the church. Adventists have their own prophet (like Smith for the Mormons), her name is Ellen White. It got to the point where I couldn't tell you if a certain teaching was from the bible or Ellen White's books. Thats bad in my opinion. Even now there are things in my belief system that trace back to those bastards, I have tried to eradicate them but I can't get rid of it completely. For instance I was talking to a male friend about a failed relationship. They had only dated about a month. He told me how he had spent money on her, buying her things like jewelry etc. She also had the expectation they were going to sleep together in that time and was PISSED that did not occur ignoring the fact he was under a doctors care for a back injury and in physical therapy, taking medication the whole deal. My take on this woman is that she is a SLUT. I am by no means a religious person but I wouldn't allow a man I knew so casually to spend the kind of money on me that he spoke of spending on her, I also wouldn't dream of sleeping with someone in under a month...Where did I get these values?? They are relics of the Seventh Day Adventist church, I wish I could exterminate them from my mind but so far I have been unsucessful in that endeavor. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
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