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Remeber when I told all you that Russia and China needed to be embargoed into oblivion?

 

Here's why:

 

MOSCOW - Russia's foreign spy agency denied Saturday that Moscow gave Saddam Hussein information on U.S. troop movements and plans during the invasion of Iraq, while analysts speculated the Pentagon claim was tied to a growing rift between the West and the Kremlin.

 

A Pentagon report Friday cited two captured Iraqi documents as saying Russia obtained information from sources "inside the American Central Command" in Qatar and passed battlefield intelligence to Saddam through the former Russian ambassador in Baghdad, Vladimir Titorenko.

The Russian Foreign Intelligence Service dismissed the claims.

"Similar, baseless accusations concerning Russia's intelligence have been made more than once," agency spokesman Boris Labusov said. "We don't consider it necessary to comment on such fabrications."

Yevgenia Albats, a Moscow-based journalist who specializes in intelligence matters, said she suspected there was "at least a certain truth reflected in the Pentagon report," considering Russia's close relationship with the ousted Iraqi leader.

But she cautioned that didn't necessarily mean the Kremlin was involved.

"It is sometimes difficult to figure out whether certain steps were undertaken with the knowledge of top Russian authorities or whether those were steps undertaken by certain intelligence officers on their own," Albats told The Associated Press. She also said the release of the Pentagon report probably had as much to do with the poor state of Russian-U.S. relations as their differences over the Iraq war, which along with other disputes have frayed a once promising partnership between Presidents Bush and Vladimir Putin that developed after the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

 

Albats noted the report appeared on the heels of Putin's trip last week to China, which added to U.S. unease over strengthening Moscow-Beijing ties. That development has caused Washington to recognize "it had lost whatever leverage it had over Russia," she said. "It wasn't just another visit to China, it was a statement addressed to the United States," she added. "There is concern in Washington that China plus Russia, combined, will present a real problem for the United States."

A leading Russian Internet news agency, Gazeta.ru, speculated the Pentagon report was released to affect the U.N. Security Council debate on what to do about Iran's nuclear program as Russia and China are resisting U.S. and European demands for a tough stand.

"The leak about Russian spies in Doha can be interpreted as pressure on Moscow, which has taken a tough, principled position on the Iranian nuclear question," it said. Sergei Oznobishchev, head of the Institute of Strategic Evaluations and A nalyses, also tied the report to increasing U.S. distrust for Russia. "They are irritated by Russia's strengthening position in the international arena and its foreign policy course," Oznobishchev was quoted as saying by the RIA Novosti news agency.

The Pentagon report wasn't the first to raise questions about Russian help for Saddam's regime at the time of the invasion in March 2003.

At the time, Gazeta.ru reported that two retired Russian generals visited Baghdad less than 10 days before the U.S.-led offensive and speculated they were advising the Iraqi military. The report showed photographs of them receiving medals from Iraqi Defense Minister Sultan Hashim Ahmed.

Nezavisimaya Gazeta, a newspaper believed at the time to have well-placed contacts in Russia's military and intelligence spheres, reported in March 2003 that Russian intelligence agents were holding daily meetings with Iraqi officials.

 

The U.S. administration accused Russian companies of shipping prohibited equipment, including anti-tank missiles, night-vision goggles and electronic jamming devices to Iraq, possibly via third countries. Moscow vehemently denied the allegations.

The unclassified Pentagon report did not assess the value or accuracy of the information Saddam got or offer details on Russia's information pipeline.

The Iraqi documents also left unclear who may have been the sources at Central Command's war-fighting headquarters, which is at Camp As Saliyah just outside Doha, the capital of Qatar. No Russians were authorized to be at the closely guarded base.

 

As I have always said .... Russia and China need to be expelled from the U.N. Security Council and then emargoed into virtual fucking poverty.

 

Then when the little bitches stop sucking Iran's terrorist cocks .... the embargoes can be lifted.

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I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww.

 

Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter.

 

FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!

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Iran might be a bunch of terrorists but the U.S. is really no better what with the amount of fucking land mines your troops leave laying around.

 

Considering you supplied Saddam to fight against Iran in the not-so-distant past you can't really blame them for being slightly pissed off at the U.S.

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We got a good laugh out of it. They fight for 9 years to fight iraq off, we conquer iraq in a few weeks....

 

I say we just bomb everything this time

 

I say you don't. When you drop bombs allies die. :p

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I say you don't. When you drop bombs allies die. :p

 

A sad... yet truthful side effect of war paranoia :p If it's moving through the desert at night it must the enemy!

 

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I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww.

 

Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter.

 

FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!

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Pretty much explains why during the first Gulf War most of our Abrams tanks that were damaged/destroyed was because of Apache helicopters and most of the Bradleys were downed by Abrams. Blue on blue contact was a serious issue.

"I wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana." - Wall of Voodoo

 

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We got a good laugh out of it. They fight for 9 years to fight iraq off, we conquer iraq in a few weeks....

 

So why do you expect us to take your wars seriously??

Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
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Pretty much explains why during the first Gulf War most of our Abrams tanks that were damaged/destroyed was because of Apache helicopters and most of the Bradleys were downed by Abrams. Blue on blue contact was a serious issue.

 

Yeah I heard from a friend that the US Abrams tank was never destroyed by enemies, only friendly fire.

Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
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Well, there is no hell, so they don't go there. But I get your point.:p

 

If there is a Hell, we are in it right now. Heaven is being able to shit in peace.

To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair

 

Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.

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Becuase when we fight you, you die, and you die quickly

 

Hmm.. Well it's only begun hasn't it? At least according to the president you elected. (Ill be more than happy to generalize) ;)

Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
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Hmm.. Well it's only begun hasn't it? At least according to the president you elected. (Ill be more than happy to generalize) ;)

 

Wait for Iran. Since we will actually be fighting an army, though a shity one, you will see true american superiority. Expect Iranian military deaths at about 200,000-300,000.

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Wait for Iran. Since we will actually be fighting an army, though a shity one, you will see true american superiority. Expect Iranian military deaths at about 200,000-300,000.

If we can't beat'em on the ground, we'll beat'em in the air.

If we can't beat'em in the air, we'll nuke'em 'till they glow.

The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice.

The second amendment provides its teeth.

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If you get OIL from Opec, which you do, than you obviously get Oil from Iran. You got Oil from Iraq even a few months before the war.
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