Lethalfind Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 I have a 9 year old daughter, hopefully I'm a few years off in worrying about this one. My sister however has had to confront this and I wondered how you guys feel about it. I have to say that I would not give permission for my minor child to have an abortion. If she was of age to do it on her own then there is nothing I could do about it but I would do my best to talk her out of it. Assuming she was not ready to take care of a child on her own, I would take and raise the child. Family connections mean alot too me and I couldn't stand by and allow my grandchild to be killed just so she would not be put out for 9 months. I can also tell you from personal experience, being a single Mother has made me VERY careful about who I sleep with and making sure that I am using sufficient birth control measures to NOT get pregnant. A little background...I'm adopted. My birth Mother's parents tried to force her to have an abortion which she refused to do. She later found out this same man performed abortions on a couple of friends of hers and both the women ended up unable to have children because of it. I believe if your old enough to be sleeping around then you can take at least 9 months out of your busy fuckin schedule to give a child the chance to live...there are so many couples out there who want a child. Why don't women do this more often?? Because their selfish bitches who would rather dispose of a child like its trash then take the time out of their schedules to give it life. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
manicmonday Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 I have a 9 year old daughter, hopefully I'm a few years off in worrying about this one. My sister however has had to confront this and I wondered how you guys feel about it. I have to say that I would not give permission for my minor child to have an abortion. If she was of age to do it on her own then there is nothing I could do about it but I would do my best to talk her out of it. Assuming she was not ready to take care of a child on her own, I would take and raise the child. Family connections mean alot too me and I couldn't stand by and allow my grandchild to be killed just so she would not be put out for 9 months. I can also tell you from personal experience, being a single Mother has made me VERY careful about who I sleep with and making sure that I am using sufficient birth control measures to NOT get pregnant. A little background...I'm adopted. My birth Mother's parents tried to force her to have an abortion which she refused to do. She later found out this same man performed abortions on a couple of friends of hers and both the women ended up unable to have children because of it. I believe if your old enough to be sleeping around then you can take at least 9 months out of your busy fuckin schedule to give a child the chance to live...there are so many couples out there who want a child. Why don't women do this more often?? Because their selfish bitches who would rather dispose of a child like its trash then take the time out of their schedules to give it life. That's a little harsh judgement on people who are in situations you don't really know about or are in yourself don't you think? Adoption in the USA isn't a cultural norm, so therefore most women don't consider it. Also laws have changed and the father has to sign off too. Sometimes that can take a matter of minutes or a matter of months determining. And then if he doesn't sign the papers but the woman doesn't want to raise the baby or the man doesn't, then what? I don't believe in abortion ever, but adoption has got to become easier for people to make it a viable option. I'm adopted also and wish more people would take this into consideration. If my son gets a girl pregnant, I will embrace the situation. It's not the best situation, but it's not the worst either. I would want to help in whatever way I could, whether the girl need to move in with me, they get married or whatever. I would help financially and emotionally. Quote The dick has no conscience and the heart has no rational abilities.
Lethalfind Posted March 28, 2006 Author Posted March 28, 2006 That's a little harsh judgement on people who are in situations you don't really know about or are in yourself don't you think? Adoption in the USA isn't a cultural norm, so therefore most women don't consider it. Also laws have changed and the father has to sign off too. Sometimes that can take a matter of minutes or a matter of months determining. And then if he doesn't sign the papers but the woman doesn't want to raise the baby or the man doesn't, then what? I don't believe in abortion ever, but adoption has got to become easier for people to make it a viable option. I'm adopted also and wish more people would take this into consideration. If my son gets a girl pregnant, I will embrace the situation. It's not the best situation, but it's not the worst either. I would want to help in whatever way I could, whether the girl need to move in with me, they get married or whatever. I would help financially and emotionally. Obviously I can't know how everyone feels but when I found out I was pregnant it wasn't that long afterward that I realized I would be on my onw. I was overwhelmed of course but in time I got a handle on it. I still think that if someone is mature enough to sleep around they need to be responsible enough to give 9 months out of their life to give the child life...I of course would not wish this for my daughter but I think it would be the best solution given the choices. My childs Father tried to convince me to have an abortion...good Catholic boy that he was and I knew that if I did that, I would be better off killing myself as well because emotionally I would be messed up for the rest of my life. I know not everyone would be willing to take in their grandchild and raise it as their own if their child was unable to for whatever reason but I am willing to do that so I feel that my unwillingness for her to have an abortion is in proportion. It would be different if the parent was unwilling or unable to take the child in. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
sixes Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 I think its safe to cut the balls of the forum now guys......... Quote .
Lethalfind Posted March 28, 2006 Author Posted March 28, 2006 I think its safe to cut the balls of the forum now guys......... If you have a problem sharing this forum with women then maybe you should start your own...I doubt anyone will miss you. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
tiredofwhiners Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 My youngest daughter is adopted from another country, so i think that is a great answer to an unwanted pregnancy. With all the birth control out there, i don't see how that happens though. As for the question....I would most likely help raise the child, even take it on as my own if for some reason the daughter turned out to be a loser. I hope this will never be an issue, we are very open to talk about it with her. And the wife and i are not the unrealistic type, that think oh she'll hold off until she's married. Quote AA's for quitters...i'm no quitter!
Komrade Vostok Hazard Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 If I had a teen girl who came home Pregnant........ I'D SHOOT HER Quote All bullshit, No Business.
manicmonday Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 If I had a teen girl who came home Pregnant........ I'D SHOOT HER What and give the guy an award? Idiot. Quote The dick has no conscience and the heart has no rational abilities.
smutt butt Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 I have a 9 year old daughter, hopefully I'm a few years off in worrying about this one. My sister however has had to confront this and I wondered how you guys feel about it. I have to say that I would not give permission for my minor child to have an abortion. If she was of age to do it on her own then there is nothing I could do about it but I would do my best to talk her out of it. Assuming she was not ready to take care of a child on her own, I would take and raise the child. Family connections mean alot too me and I couldn't stand by and allow my grandchild to be killed just so she would not be put out for 9 months. I can also tell you from personal experience, being a single Mother has made me VERY careful about who I sleep with and making sure that I am using sufficient birth control measures to NOT get pregnant. A little background...I'm adopted. My birth Mother's parents tried to force her to have an abortion which she refused to do. She later found out this same man performed abortions on a couple of friends of hers and both the women ended up unable to have children because of it. I believe if your old enough to be sleeping around then you can take at least 9 months out of your busy fuckin schedule to give a child the chance to live...there are so many couples out there who want a child. Why don't women do this more often?? Because their selfish bitches who would rather dispose of a child like its trash then take the time out of their schedules to give it life. If 1 of my daughters got pregnant at 13-17 i don't know what i would do. I guess after beating the wall, screaming, cussing and crying i would just help her thru it and raise the baby until she could. Abortion would be out of the question. PERIOD I am not even going into that discussion. It would still be my grandbaby so having it sucked out piece by piece is out. My ex'es 14yo got pregnant so i just divorced her. Quote "This place may be bombed and we will be killed. We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us." Osama Bin Laden. nov. 2001
skategreen Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 If I had a teen girl who came home Pregnant........ I'D SHOOT HER With a stupid answer like this.... Your methods would be equally stupid. Therefore...you would be caught. You would be tried and convicted. You would then go to Jail where you would hopefully be subjected to becoming some fellas unwilling wife Repeatedly. After which - if you were lucky You would be taken out, strapped to a bed, and put to sleep. Which is what you would deserve for shooting her. 1 Quote The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. - Buddha
RoyalOrleans Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 The first thing I'd ask her is, "is it mine?". If the answer is "no", I'd reply "whew! that was close!". If the answer was "yes", I'd reply "Can we name it Hank?". Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
manicmonday Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 The first thing I'd ask her is, "is it mine?". If the answer is "no", I'd reply "whew! that was close!". If the answer was "yes", I'd reply "Can we name it Hank?". It could be close that you got your teenage daughter pregnant? Ummm, OK, issues. I'm just saying. Quote The dick has no conscience and the heart has no rational abilities.
Lethalfind Posted March 29, 2006 Author Posted March 29, 2006 I appreciate the thoughtful answers (except RO and KVH of course). The thread we had about the belly button peircing got me to thinking about my 9 year old in the future and things I might face then. She won't be playing with Barbie dolls forever. While I hope I can impress on her the importance of good birth control I don't want to be blind sided. I don't think if this happened its not a complete disaster, there are alternatives to aborting your family...I'm her Mother forever, not just until she is 18. Its especially interesting to hear from you guys that have children that are older because I can only guess at what my reaction will be or should be, you guys that have lived through some of the challenges of teenagers have invaluable experience to offer someone like me. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
Gallytuck Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 With a stupid answer like this.... Your methods would be equally stupid. Therefore...you would be caught. You would be tried and convicted. You would then go to Jail where you would hopefully be subjected to becoming some fellas unwilling wife Repeatedly. After which - if you were lucky You would be taken out, strapped to a bed, and put to sleep. Which is what you would deserve for shooting her. But giving her a few really hard kicks in the midsection is completely acceptable. Quote
Komrade Vostok Hazard Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 It could be close that you got your teenage daughter pregnant? Ummm, OK, issues. I'm just saying. RO is a hillbilly after all..... Quote All bullshit, No Business.
Komrade Vostok Hazard Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 What and give the guy an award? Idiot. He isn't my kid so I wouldn't give a shit about him one way or the other. With a stupid answer like this.... Your methods would be equally stupid. Therefore...you would be caught. You would be tried and convicted. You would then go to Jail where you would hopefully be subjected to becoming some fellas unwilling wife Repeatedly. After which - if you were lucky You would be taken out, strapped to a bed, and put to sleep. Which is what you would deserve for shooting her. I don't care. If I did deciede to make little fuck trophies, I'll sure as shit make damn sure that none of them grow up to be human trash. Quote All bullshit, No Business.
Hamza123 Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 I can't help you much here Lethal but I mean, if you apply disiplinary pressure on your child, she'll be well raised. Make sure that you talk to her about the consiquences, and emphasize how harsh they can be. If my teenage daughter did any of that, well, I really can't even contemplate how pissed I would be but I wouldn't take it out on her at all. I'd take the right steps in ensuring my G'Child's future, so maybe if the daughter is put in your scenario 30 or 40 years later, she is able to do the same. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
manicmonday Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 He isn't my kid so I wouldn't give a shit about him one way or the other. And this is what's wrong with this whole scenerio. The woman gets pregnant and punished while the man who was there also, get's jack shit. What if the your was the boy who got a girl knocked up? I hope you have been neutered so you don't pass way of thinking unto another generation. Quote The dick has no conscience and the heart has no rational abilities.
skategreen Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 He isn't my kid so I wouldn't give a shit about him one way or the other. I don't care. If I did deciede to make little fuck trophies, I'll sure as shit make damn sure that none of them grow up to be human trash. And you would do this how? You would grant them the beingness to be and do and have,... you'd recognize them for being actual people with viewpoints, attitudes and emotions worth listening to and worth considering? .. You'd treat them as you would want to be treated? You'd raise them in a better way than you were raised...the natural urge and bent good people share? Or.... You'd simply beat them into being good people? Quote The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. - Buddha
Komrade Vostok Hazard Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 And this is what's wrong with this whole scenerio. The woman gets pregnant and punished while the man who was there also, get's jack shit. What if the your was the boy who got a girl knocked up? I would do the same to him. He wants to go around chasing ass and knocking up girls in his teen years, to hell with the little punk I hope you have been neutered so you don't pass way of thinking unto another generation. nope...not neutered. Quote All bullshit, No Business.
Komrade Vostok Hazard Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 And you would do this how? You would grant them the beingness to be and do and have,... you'd recognize them for being actual people with viewpoints, attitudes and emotions worth listening to and worth considering? .. You'd treat them as you would want to be treated? You'd raise them in a better way than you were raised...the natural urge and bent good people share? Or.... You'd simply beat them into being good people? Well first of all, I'd never raise any kid better than how I was raised. Why the hell do they deserve more than me or anyone else? Attitudes, opinions, viewpoints worth listening to? You have to be kidding me. They're kids. They have nothing to say that's worth anything. Naw I won't beat on a kid, but a good old zero tolerance policy towards their bullshit should suffice Quote All bullshit, No Business.
skategreen Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 Well first of all, I'd never raise any kid better than how I was raised. Why the hell do they deserve more than me or anyone else? Attitudes, opinions, viewpoints worth listening to? You have to be kidding me. They're kids. They have nothing to say that's worth anything. Naw I won't beat on a kid, but a good old zero tolerance policy towards their bullshit should suffice Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Bravo! Bravo! Excellent portayal of a total asshole! Now...tell me... is this really you, or is this merely your internet posing? I simply can't imagine that you actually think as above, or truly feel this way. It would be so incredibly dense and clueless. You're not that far away from your own childhood. Certainly you haven't done so many drugs as to completely forget what you felt, desired, and needed at 8, 12, 16.....? Tell me, until they reach what age is it OK to totally negate the worth and value of a human being? At what age does it stop being OK to do this? When are people important enough to listen to? Quote The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. - Buddha
Outlaw2747 Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Oh TRUST ME Skate, I am quite sure he really feels this way. Quote "I wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana." - Wall of Voodoo http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/fb910e0baa5b4e108ffee98f66cdb3cc.gif
skategreen Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Oh TRUST ME Skate, I am quite sure he really feels this way. In all seriousness? If he is? Then he is definitely a candidate for The Better Dead Club. Quote The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. - Buddha
Lethalfind Posted March 31, 2006 Author Posted March 31, 2006 In all seriousness? If he is? Then he is definitely a candidate for The Better Dead Club. LOL@better dead club....lolol Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
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