Guest Max Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 The following is from: http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqdontenlist.html#DONTENLIST Please read & share this with others on as wide a scale as possible. REASONS NOT TO ENLIST IN the US Military and join the Iraq war. On average, a surgeon has to amputate the genitals of two wounded US soldiers each day in Iraq. You may be killed. Your family, friends and people who love you will have a lifetime of heartache. Any children you would have fathered will be aborted with you. You may be maimed, have one or more limbs amputated or lose half your face or your penis and balls. You will live the rest of your life disabled. You may be so disfigured you will never have sex again. You will be stuck with the bulk of the medical bills. Modern medicine can resuscitate badly maimed people who would have died in previous wars. This means the Iraq war is cranking out an unusually high numbers of seriously maimed people. Many returning from Iraq become mental basket cases unable to deal with the horrors of war and the guilt at what they have done. Friends and family reject them. They can't hold down a job. They become homeless. Look at the way American treats the homeless vets of the Viet Nam and Iraq wars begging on the streets. Over half the soldiers who served in the Gulf War, died of Gulf War Syndrome or were treated for it. They were in Iraq for only weeks. You will be there years. Read the fine print. Bush is keeping soldiers in Iraq for years after their contract expires. To this day no one knows for sure what causes Gulf War Syndrome. You will be exposed to DU (Depleted Uranium), as were soldiers in the first Gulf War. This may cause cancer later, or even more likely will cause your children and their children to be genetically deformed. Check out the middle part of this video that shows what sort of children are common to those exposed to the DU-laden winds in Iraq. Imagine explaining to your wife why you did this to her. Also pay attention to parts how can make your wife and family sick indirectly. Iraq is no threat to the USA. You are not defending your country. There were no WMDs. Even Bush admits Iraq had nothing to do with the terrorist attacks on 9/11. "We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the September 11th attacks." ~ George W. Bush, 2003-09-17, audio. The USA illegally attacked an unarmed country under false pretenses. The war is about ignoble motives such as oil and world domination. There is utterly no point is you risking your life in Iraq. reasons continue at: http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqdontenlist.html#DONTENLIST ======== If Americans are going to pay for the war, they should be shown the war, including pictures of the hundreds of thousands of little children and women who have been killed and permanently disfigured in Bush's so called "war on terror". WAR PICTURES Pictures of Destruction and Civilian Victims of the Anglo-American Aggression in Iraq These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured, maimed and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in various cities of Iraq. Due to insecurity, independent reporters could not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities. WARNING: PLEASE NOTE THAT SOME OF THESE PICTURES ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR SMALL CHILDREN AND THOSE WITH WEAK HEARTS. Mind Prod: http://snipurl.com/h6tp The truth will set us free (from support warmonging politicians and their filthy wars). ============ "Without sharing there can be no justice; without justice there can be no peace; Without peace there can be no future." Maitreya the World Teacher http://www.share-international.org Quote
Guest Propecia Washington Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 In other words, cowardice is a reason not to join. Quote
Guest neoconis_ignoramus Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 On Jun 7, 9:14 am, Propecia Washington <Gumm...@Wash.DC> wrote: > In other words, cowardice is a reason not to join. I guess that makes you a coward then. Quote
Guest Server 13 Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 "Propecia Washington" <Gummint@Wash.DC> wrote in message news:d8W9i.410035$g24.398432@newsfe12.phx... > In other words, cowardice is a reason not to join. For that to be true, there'd have to be a good reason TO join. Quote
Guest Pepperoni Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 Hey, Max.... How about not crossposting off topic posts to ROR-T? "Max" <maxhemust@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1181231707.210363.75680@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > > Quote
Guest -the HoSt- Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 Common sense is the only reason you need. Host. Quote
Guest CoreyWhite Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 On Jun 7, 1:23 pm, "-the HoSt-" <H...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Common sense is the only reason you need. > > Host. I know a lot of people who sign up for the military and just get paid to sit around at millitary bases offshores. None of my friends have yet to come home with a war story. I think it is kind of odd. Quote
Guest Lone Haranguer Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 neoconis_ignoramus wrote: > On Jun 7, 9:14 am, Propecia Washington <Gumm...@Wash.DC> wrote: > >>In other words, cowardice is a reason not to join. > > > I guess that makes you a coward then. > War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. John Stuart Mill Quote
Guest JimPgh Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 08:55:07 -0700, Max <maxhemust@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >The following is from: >http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqdontenlist.html#DONTENLIST > It's a good thing you posted this. Prior to your post, those enlisting in the military had absolutely NO idea that they could be harmed in any way. Quote
Guest neoconis_ignoramus Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 On Jun 7, 1:03 pm, Lone Haranguer <lin...@direcway.com> wrote: > neoconis_ignoramus wrote: > > On Jun 7, 9:14 am, Propecia Washington <Gumm...@Wash.DC> wrote: > > >>In other words, cowardice is a reason not to join. > > > I guess that makes you a coward then. > > War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and > degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing > is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is > willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal > safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless > made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. > > John Stuart Mill Sorry, but I don't think that Iraq was threatening my own personal safety. Us here in the reality-based community realized that con leaders were on an oil grab and could push the rhetoric that Saddam was a threat to their chickenshit con followers and through pussy Dem politicians. By the way, I was merely clearly pointing out that the poster was a coward by their own definition. By that definition, you are one, too. Quote
Guest Biscuits and Books Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 Back during the last years of Vietnam, some of us decided that the only way to stop Nixon's insanity was to dry up the military. Just don't go. Make them put you all in prison. Very costly to maintain. No bodies, no fodder, no more war. Quote
Guest Max Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 "JimPgh" <iwantnomail@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:iprg63t90ak3jp72tlou914cv6k4s4le2j@4ax.com... > On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 08:55:07 -0700, Max <maxhemust@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> >>The following is from: >>http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqdontenlist.html#DONTENLIST >> > It's a good thing you posted this. > Prior to your post, those enlisting in the military had > absolutely NO idea that they could be harmed in any way. Now there is a nice bit of humor. Max (in El Paso) Quote
Guest Bert Byfield Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 >>>In other words, cowardice is a reason not to join. >> I guess that makes you a coward then. > War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed > and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks > that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has > nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more > important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature > and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the > exertions of better men than himself. John Stuart Mill Very pretty, but this has NOTHING to do with the illegal and immoral war being fought by the USA in Iraq. You are trying to attach a decent sentiment to an indecent war, and trying to make a mugging sound like an act of heroism. It doesn't work. It's a lie. Quote
Guest John W. Hart Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Max wrote: > > The following is from: > http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqdontenlist.html#DONTENLIST > > Please read & share this with others on as wide a scale as possible. > > REASONS NOT TO ENLIST IN the US Military and join the Iraq war. > > On average, a surgeon has to amputate the genitals of two wounded US > soldiers each day in Iraq. > > You may be killed. Your family, friends and people who love you will > have a lifetime of heartache. Any children you would have fathered > will be aborted with you. > > You may be maimed, have one or more limbs amputated or lose half your > face or your penis and balls. You will live the rest of your life > disabled. You may be so disfigured you will never have sex again. You > will be stuck with the bulk of the medical bills. Modern medicine can > resuscitate badly maimed people who would have died in previous wars. > This means the Iraq war is cranking out an unusually high numbers of > seriously maimed people. > > Many returning from Iraq become mental basket cases unable to deal > with the horrors of war and the guilt at what they have done. Friends > and family reject them. They can't hold down a job. They become > homeless. Look at the way American treats the homeless vets of the > Viet Nam and Iraq wars begging on the streets. > > Over half the soldiers who served in the Gulf War, died of Gulf War > Syndrome or were treated for it. They were in Iraq for only weeks. You > will be there years. Read the fine print. Bush is keeping soldiers in > Iraq for years after their contract expires. To this day no one knows > for sure what causes Gulf War Syndrome. > > You will be exposed to DU (Depleted Uranium), as were soldiers in the > first Gulf War. This may cause cancer later, or even more likely will > cause your children and their children to be genetically deformed. > Check out the middle part of this video that shows what sort of > children are common to those exposed to the DU-laden winds in Iraq. > Imagine explaining to your wife why you did this to her. Also pay > attention to parts how can make your wife and family sick indirectly. > > Iraq is no threat to the USA. You are not defending your country. > There were no WMDs. Even Bush admits Iraq had nothing to do with the > terrorist attacks on 9/11. > "We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the > September 11th attacks." > ~ George W. Bush, 2003-09-17, audio. > > The USA illegally attacked an unarmed country under false pretenses. > The war is about ignoble motives such as oil and world domination. > There is utterly no point is you risking your life in Iraq. > > reasons continue at: > > http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqdontenlist.html#DONTENLIST > > ======== > > If Americans are going to pay for the war, they should be shown the > war, including pictures of the hundreds of thousands of little > children and women who have been killed and permanently disfigured in > Bush's so called "war on terror". > > WAR PICTURES > > Pictures of Destruction and Civilian Victims of the Anglo-American > Aggression in Iraq > > These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the hundreds of > thousands of Iraqi Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, > humiliated, injured, maimed and killed through British and American > bombing of civilian areas in various cities of Iraq. Due to > insecurity, independent reporters could not and still can not reach > many areas to photograph and report the atrocities. Several > independent reporters and journalists were deliberately bombed to > prevent them reporting the atrocities. > > WARNING: > PLEASE NOTE THAT SOME OF THESE PICTURES ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR SMALL > CHILDREN AND THOSE WITH WEAK HEARTS. > > Mind Prod: http://snipurl.com/h6tp > > The truth will set us free (from support warmonging politicians and > their filthy wars). > > ============ > > "Without sharing there can be no justice; > without justice there can be no peace; > Without peace there can be no future." > Maitreya the World Teacher > http://www.share-international.org > Shit! Another moonbat on the loose! Quote
Guest Max Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 "John W. Hart" <akanka@kiamichiwb.org> wrote in message news:OKqdnTn_1ZtHxfTbnZ2dnUVZ_tzinZ2d@trueband.net... >> REASONS NOT TO ENLIST IN the US Military and join the Iraq war. >> WAR PICTURES > Shit! Another moonbat on the loose! Did you have to re-post the BS? Max (in El Paso) Quote
Guest chatnoir Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 On Jun 7, 9:55 am, Max <maxhem...@yahoo.com> wrote: > The following is from:http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqdontenlist.html#DONTENLIST > > Please read & share this with others on as wide a scale as possible. > > REASONS NOT TO ENLIST IN the US Military and join the Iraq war. > Top Reason!: http://www.derfcity.com/n/newtoon.html Quote
Guest John W. Hart Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 wegona_befree wrote: > Pictures of Destruction and Civilian Victims of the Anglo-American > Aggression in Iraq > > These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the hundreds of > thousands of Iraqi Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, > humiliated, injured, maimed and killed through British and American > bombing of civilian areas in various cities of Iraq. Due to > insecurity, independent reporters could not and still can not reach > many areas to photograph and report the atrocities. Several > independent reporters and journalists were deliberately bombed to > prevent them reporting the atrocities. > > WARNING: > PLEASE NOTE THAT SOME OF THESE PICTURES ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR SMALL > CHILDREN AND THOSE WITH WEAK HEARTS. > > Mind Prod: http://snipurl.com/h6tp > > The truth will set us free (from support warmonging politicians and > their filthy wars). > > > > > > On Jun 8, 8:05 pm, chatnoir <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com> wrote: >> On Jun 7, 9:55 am, Max <maxhem...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> The following is from:http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqdontenlist.html#DONTENLIST >>> Please read & share this with others on as wide a scale as possible. >>> REASONSNOTTOENLISTIN theUSMilitaryand join the Iraq war. >> Top Reason!: >> >> http://www.derfcity.com/n/newtoon.html > > A justified war is MANDATORY! PLONK! Quote
Guest wegona_befree Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 Pictures of Destruction and Civilian Victims of the Anglo-American Aggression in Iraq These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured, maimed and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in various cities of Iraq. Due to insecurity, independent reporters could not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities. WARNING: PLEASE NOTE THAT SOME OF THESE PICTURES ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR SMALL CHILDREN AND THOSE WITH WEAK HEARTS. Mind Prod: http://snipurl.com/h6tp The truth will set us free (from support warmonging politicians and their filthy wars). On Jun 8, 8:05 pm, chatnoir <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com> wrote: > On Jun 7, 9:55 am, Max <maxhem...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > The following is from:http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqdontenlist.html#DONTENLIST > > > Please read & share this with others on as wide a scale as possible. > > >REASONSNOTTOENLISTIN theUSMilitaryand join the Iraq war. > > Top Reason!: > > http://www.derfcity.com/n/newtoon.html Quote
Guest Lone Haranguer Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 wegona_befree wrote: > Pictures of Destruction and Civilian Victims of the Anglo-American > Aggression in Iraq > > These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the hundreds of > thousands of Iraqi Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, > humiliated, injured, maimed and killed through the rule of Saddam Insane and his buddies. LZ > Quote
smutt butt Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 The following is from: http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqdontenlist.html#DONTENLIST Please read & share this with others on as wide a scale as possible. REASONS NOT TO ENLIST IN the US Military and join the Iraq war. On average, a surgeon has to amputate the genitals of two wounded US soldiers each day in Iraq. You may be killed. Your family, friends and people who love you will have a lifetime of heartache. Any children you would have fathered will be aborted with you. You may be maimed, have one or more limbs amputated or lose half your face or your penis and balls. You will live the rest of your life disabled. You may be so disfigured you will never have sex again. You will be stuck with the bulk of the medical bills. Modern medicine can resuscitate badly maimed people who would have died in previous wars. This means the Iraq war is cranking out an unusually high numbers of seriously maimed people. Many returning from Iraq become mental basket cases unable to deal with the horrors of war and the guilt at what they have done. Friends and family reject them. They can't hold down a job. They become homeless. Look at the way American treats the homeless vets of the Viet Nam and Iraq wars begging on the streets. Over half the soldiers who served in the Gulf War, died of Gulf War Syndrome or were treated for it. They were in Iraq for only weeks. You will be there years. Read the fine print. Bush is keeping soldiers in Iraq for years after their contract expires. To this day no one knows for sure what causes Gulf War Syndrome. You will be exposed to DU (Depleted Uranium), as were soldiers in the first Gulf War. This may cause cancer later, or even more likely will cause your children and their children to be genetically deformed. Check out the middle part of this video that shows what sort of children are common to those exposed to the DU-laden winds in Iraq. Imagine explaining to your wife why you did this to her. Also pay attention to parts how can make your wife and family sick indirectly. Iraq is no threat to the USA. You are not defending your country. There were no WMDs. Even Bush admits Iraq had nothing to do with the terrorist attacks on 9/11. "We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the September 11th attacks." ~ George W. Bush, 2003-09-17, audio. The USA illegally attacked an unarmed country under false pretenses. The war is about ignoble motives such as oil and world domination. There is utterly no point is you risking your life in Iraq. reasons continue at: http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqdontenlist.html#DONTENLIST ======== If Americans are going to pay for the war, they should be shown the war, including pictures of the hundreds of thousands of little children and women who have been killed and permanently disfigured in Bush's so called "war on terror". WAR PICTURES Pictures of Destruction and Civilian Victims of the Anglo-American Aggression in Iraq These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured, maimed and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in various cities of Iraq. Due to insecurity, independent reporters could not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities. WARNING: PLEASE NOTE THAT SOME OF THESE PICTURES ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR SMALL CHILDREN AND THOSE WITH WEAK HEARTS. Mind Prod: http://snipurl.com/h6tp The truth will set us free (from support warmonging politicians and their filthy wars). ============ "Without sharing there can be no justice; without justice there can be no peace; Without peace there can be no future." Maitreya the World Teacher http://www.share-international.org Thankfully everyone is not a coward like you. When will muslim lovin shit like you realize what is going on in the world? I had no problem adjusting after gulf war # 1. Quote "This place may be bombed and we will be killed. We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us." Osama Bin Laden. nov. 2001
Guest katie@snow.com Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 In article <1181417562.453995.281240@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, wegona_befree <wegona_befree@yahoo.com> wrote: > > http://www.derfcity.com/n/newtoon.html This guy is mentally ill. Hope he stays in the comfort of Canada. I almost didn't reply to this because I hate to give him the attention he is looking for. His other outlet is probably Pedophilia. He cares about children, all right. He "gets off" on his own form of pornography, even asking people to provide him more pictures for his pleasure. "I don't really give a fig personally about US soldiers who die. Those US soldiers voluntarily chose the profession of hired killers. They kill for thrills and money, not because they are defending their country. I care about civilians, especially children, of any nationality or religion. I realise, however, that most Americans are infected with racism and nationalism and care only about American deaths and then only white ones, so I will gladly post any photos you can find of US casualties to pound home the cost of this war in suffering to Americans too." -- Quote
Guest Barbara Lake Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 <katie@snow.com> wrote in message news:YdGdndY0CumloPHbnZ2dnUVZ_tGvnZ2d@giganews.com... > In article <1181417562.453995.281240@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, > wegona_befree <wegona_befree@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> > http://www.derfcity.com/n/newtoon.html > > This guy is mentally ill. Hope he stays in the comfort of Canada. I > almost didn't reply to this because I hate to give him the attention he > is looking for. His other outlet is probably Pedophilia. He cares > about children, all right. He "gets off" on his own form of > pornography, even asking people to provide him more pictures for his > pleasure. > > "I don't really give a fig personally about US soldiers who die. Those > US soldiers voluntarily chose the profession of hired killers. They kill > for thrills and money, not because they are defending their country. I > care about civilians, especially children, of any nationality or > religion. I realise, however, that most Americans are infected with > racism and nationalism and care only about American deaths and then only > white ones, so I will gladly post any photos you can find of US > casualties to pound home the cost of this war in suffering to Americans > too." I didn't like this man's thesis, either, Katie, but you are really off-the-wall if you see pedophilia in it. In legal terms, that would be "assuming facts not in evidence." -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Quote
Guest JerryD\(upstateNY\) Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 katie@snow.com wrote: ........This guy is mentally ill. Katie is a perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black. -- JerryD(upstateNY) Quote
Guest Lone Haranguer Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 katie@snow.com wrote: > In article <1181417562.453995.281240@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, > wegona_befree <wegona_befree@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >>>http://www.derfcity.com/n/newtoon.html > > > This guy is mentally ill. Hope he stays in the comfort of Canada. I > almost didn't reply to this because I hate to give him the attention he > is looking for. His other outlet is probably Pedophilia. He cares > about children, all right. He "gets off" on his own form of > pornography, even asking people to provide him more pictures for his > pleasure. > > "I don't really give a fig personally about US soldiers who die. Those > US soldiers voluntarily chose the profession of hired killers. They kill > for thrills and money, not because they are defending their country. I > care about civilians, especially children, of any nationality or > religion. I realise, however, that most Americans are infected with > racism and nationalism and care only about American deaths and then only > white ones, so I will gladly post any photos you can find of US > casualties to pound home the cost of this war in suffering to Americans > too." > Quote
Guest Lone Haranguer Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 Barbara Lake wrote: > <katie@snow.com> wrote in message > news:YdGdndY0CumloPHbnZ2dnUVZ_tGvnZ2d@giganews.com... > >>In article <1181417562.453995.281240@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, >>wegona_befree <wegona_befree@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>>>http://www.derfcity.com/n/newtoon.html >> >>This guy is mentally ill. Hope he stays in the comfort of Canada. I >>almost didn't reply to this because I hate to give him the attention he >>is looking for. His other outlet is probably Pedophilia. He cares >>about children, all right. He "gets off" on his own form of >>pornography, even asking people to provide him more pictures for his >>pleasure. >> >>"I don't really give a fig personally about US soldiers who die. Those >>US soldiers voluntarily chose the profession of hired killers. They kill >>for thrills and money, not because they are defending their country. I >>care about civilians, especially children, of any nationality or >>religion. I realise, however, that most Americans are infected with >>racism and nationalism and care only about American deaths and then only >>white ones, so I will gladly post any photos you can find of US >>casualties to pound home the cost of this war in suffering to Americans >>too." > > > I didn't like this man's thesis, either, Katie, but you are really > off-the-wall if you see pedophilia in it. In legal terms, that would be > "assuming facts not in evidence." > > > > Quote
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