Guest katie@snow.com Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 In article <466c37a1$0$16379$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>, "Barbara Lake" <bglake@hotmail.com> wrote: > <katie@snow.com> wrote in message > news:YdGdndY0CumloPHbnZ2dnUVZ_tGvnZ2d@giganews.com... > > In article <1181417562.453995.281240@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, > > wegona_befree <wegona_befree@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > http://www.derfcity.com/n/newtoon.html > > > > This guy is mentally ill. Hope he stays in the comfort of Canada. I > > almost didn't reply to this because I hate to give him the attention he > > is looking for. His other outlet is probably Pedophilia. He cares > > about children, all right. He "gets off" on his own form of > > pornography, even asking people to provide him more pictures for his > > pleasure. > > > > "I don't really give a fig personally about US soldiers who die. Those > > US soldiers voluntarily chose the profession of hired killers. They kill > > for thrills and money, not because they are defending their country. I > > care about civilians, especially children, of any nationality or > > religion. I realise, however, that most Americans are infected with > > racism and nationalism and care only about American deaths and then only > > white ones, so I will gladly post any photos you can find of US > > casualties to pound home the cost of this war in suffering to Americans > > too." > > I didn't like this man's thesis, either, Katie, but you are really > off-the-wall if you see pedophilia in it. In legal terms, that would be > "assuming facts not in evidence." Barbara...Maybe it fits, maybe it doesn't... Definitions of Tongue in cheek on the Web: Sarcasm is sneering, jesting, or mocking a person, a situation or thing. It is often used in a humorous manner and sometimes expressed through particular vocal intonations. Sarcasm is often expressed in ironical statements. It can sometimes be the sincerest form of discourse for the emotionally fragile. This is often done by simply over-emphasizing the actual statement, or particular words of it. By the way, Barbara, even though we strongly disagree in our views, I certainly would not put you any where near the category of this maniac. I think it's non-productive for me to do anything but skim this group because there are more meaningful and productive ways I can use my time to support the Soldiers that fight for our country. I came back in to clarify this point and your post made it easy. Thank you. -- Quote
Guest 2B-Clear Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 I spent thirty-three years and four months in active service in the country's most agile military force, the Marines. I served in all ranks from second lieutenant to major general. And during that period I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all members of the military profession I never had an original thought until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of the higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service. Thus I helped make Mexico, and especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. "I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenue in. I helped in the raping of half-a-dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers and Co. in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras 'right' for American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested. During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. I was rewarded with honors, medals, and promotion. Looking back on it, I feel that I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate a racket in three city districts. The Marines operated on three continents. Above was written by the late, great Major General Smedley Butler (U.S. Marine Corps) --------- The problem is that too many American's have been brainwashed. The devils in charge know that if they tell a lie enough times, that it will become truth. The US occupation of Iraq is NOT a war on terrorism. It is terrorism, and we're paying for it dearly. Over 800,000 thousand Iraqis of all ages (including many children) have been killed since the Goliath USA began their illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq. 2bc ================================================= Facts You Might Not Know about the Iraq War The original terrorists in Iraq were the military and civilian officials of the Bush administration -- starting with their "shock and awe" bombing campaign that destroyed Iraqi infrastructure in order to "undermine civilian morale." The American form of terrorism continued with the wholesale destruction of most of Falluja and parts of other Sunni cities, designed to pacify the "hot beds" of insurgency, while teaching the residents of those areas that, if they "harbor the insurgents," they will surely "suffer the consequences." At the individual level, this program of terror was continued through the invasions of, and demolishing of, homes (or, in some cases, parts of neighborhoods) where insurgents were believed to be hidden among a larger civilian population, thus spreading the "lesson" about "harboring terrorists" to everyone in the Sunni sections of the country. Generating a violent death rate of at least 18,000 per year, the American drumbeat of terror has contributed more than its share to the recently escalating civilian death toll, which reached a record 3,149 in the official count during July. It is unfortunately accurate to characterize the American occupation of Sunni Iraq as a reign of terror. from: http://www.TomDispatch.com 7 Facts You Might Not Know about the Iraq War by Michael Schwartz ================================ ==================== Here are some good sources for news that are not controlled by insanely greedy American businessmen, who don't care if their dollars are soaked in the blood of little Iraqi children: http://AlterNet.org http://Anti-War.com http://caracasnews.com http://www.CommonDreams.org http://www.DemocracyNow.org http://www.gregpalast.com http://www.TomDispatch.com http://www.truthdig.com http://www.truthout.org Quote
Guest RH Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 I spent thirty-three years and four months in active service in the country's most agile military force, the Marines. I served in all ranks from second lieutenant to major general. And during that period I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all members of the military profession I never had an original thought until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of the higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service. Thus I helped make Mexico, and especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. "I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenue in. I helped in the raping of half-a-dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers and Co. in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras 'right' for American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested. During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. I was rewarded with honors, medals, and promotion. Looking back on it, I feel that I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate a racket in three city districts. The Marines operated on three continents. Above was written by the late, great Major General Smedley Butler (U.S. Marine Corps) --------- The problem is that too many American's have been brainwashed. The devils in charge know that if they tell a lie enough times, that it will become truth. The US occupation of Iraq is NOT a war on terrorism. It is terrorism, and we're paying for it dearly. Over 800,000 thousand Iraqis of all ages (including many children) have been killed since the Goliath USA began their illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq. 2bc ================================================= Facts You Might Not Know about the Iraq War The original terrorists in Iraq were the military and civilian officials of the Bush administration -- starting with their "shock and awe" bombing campaign that destroyed Iraqi infrastructure in order to "undermine civilian morale." The American form of terrorism continued with the wholesale destruction of most of Falluja and parts of other Sunni cities, designed to pacify the "hot beds" of insurgency, while teaching the residents of those areas that, if they "harbor the insurgents," they will surely "suffer the consequences." At the individual level, this program of terror was continued through the invasions of, and demolishing of, homes (or, in some cases, parts of neighborhoods) where insurgents were believed to be hidden among a larger civilian population, thus spreading the "lesson" about "harboring terrorists" to everyone in the Sunni sections of the country. Generating a violent death rate of at least 18,000 per year, the American drumbeat of terror has contributed more than its share to the recently escalating civilian death toll, which reached a record 3,149 in the official count during July. It is unfortunately accurate to characterize the American occupation of Sunni Iraq as a reign of terror. from: http://www.TomDispatch.com 7 Facts You Might Not Know about the Iraq War by Michael Schwartz ================================ ==================== Here are some good sources for news that are not controlled by insanely greedy American businessmen, who don't care if their dollars are soaked in the blood of little Iraqi children: http://AlterNet.org http://Anti-War.com http://caracasnews.com http://www.CommonDreams.org http://www.DemocracyNow.org http://www.gregpalast.com http://www.TomDispatch.com http://www.truthdig.com http://www.truthout.org On Jun 7, 10:55 am, Max <maxhem...@yahoo.com> wrote: > The following is from:http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqdontenlist.html#DONTENLIST > > Please read & share this with others on as wide a scale as possible. > > REASONS NOT TO ENLIST IN the US Military and join the Iraq war. > > On average, a surgeon has to amputate the genitals of two wounded US > soldiers each day in Iraq. > > You may be killed. Your family, friends and people who love you will > have a lifetime of heartache. Any children you would have fathered > will be aborted with you. > > You may be maimed, have one or more limbs amputated or lose half your > face or your penis and balls. You will live the rest of your life > disabled. You may be so disfigured you will never have sex again. You > will be stuck with the bulk of the medical bills. Modern medicine can > resuscitate badly maimed people who would have died in previous wars. > This means the Iraq war is cranking out an unusually high numbers of > seriously maimed people. > > Many returning from Iraq become mental basket cases unable to deal > with the horrors of war and the guilt at what they have done. Friends > and family reject them. They can't hold down a job. They become > homeless. Look at the way American treats the homeless vets of the > Viet Nam and Iraq wars begging on the streets. > > Over half the soldiers who served in the Gulf War, died of Gulf War > Syndrome or were treated for it. They were in Iraq for only weeks. You > will be there years. Read the fine print. Bush is keeping soldiers in > Iraq for years after their contract expires. To this day no one knows > for sure what causes Gulf War Syndrome. > > You will be exposed to DU (Depleted Uranium), as were soldiers in the > first Gulf War. This may cause cancer later, or even more likely will > cause your children and their children to be genetically deformed. > Check out the middle part of this video that shows what sort of > children are common to those exposed to the DU-laden winds in Iraq. > Imagine explaining to your wife why you did this to her. Also pay > attention to parts how can make your wife and family sick indirectly. > > Iraq is no threat to the USA. You are not defending your country. > There were no WMDs. Even Bush admits Iraq had nothing to do with the > terrorist attacks on 9/11. > "We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the > September 11th attacks." > ~ George W. Bush, 2003-09-17, audio. > > The USA illegally attacked an unarmed country under false pretenses. > The war is about ignoble motives such as oil and world domination. > There is utterly no point is you risking your life in Iraq. > > reasons continue at: > > http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqdontenlist.html#DONTENLIST > > ======== > > If Americans are going to pay for the war, they should be shown the > war, including pictures of the hundreds of thousands of little > children and women who have been killed and permanently disfigured in > Bush's so called "war on terror". > > WAR PICTURES > > Pictures of Destruction and Civilian Victims of the Anglo-American > Aggression in Iraq > > These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the hundreds of > thousands of Iraqi Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, > humiliated, injured, maimed and killed through British and American > bombing of civilian areas in various cities of Iraq. Due to > insecurity, independent reporters could not and still can not reach > many areas to photograph and report the atrocities. Several > independent reporters and journalists were deliberately bombed to > prevent them reporting the atrocities. > > WARNING: > PLEASE NOTE THAT SOME OF THESE PICTURES ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR SMALL > CHILDREN AND THOSE WITH WEAK HEARTS. > > Mind Prod:http://snipurl.com/h6tp > > The truth will set us free (from support warmonging politicians and > their filthy wars). > > ============ > > "Without sharing there can be no justice; > without justice there can be no peace; > Without peace there can be no future." > Maitreya the World Teacherhttp://www.share-international.org Quote
Guest Dave Head Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 Ha. A Marine that doesn't like capitalism. Hmmm... Face it, if we want prosperity, we have to protect the interests of this country, and those interests are in business. Plain and simple, that is what needs to be done. On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 04:57:46 -0000, RH <halcon7roho@yahoo.com> wrote: >I spent thirty-three years and four months in active service in the >country's most agile military force, the Marines. I served in all >ranks from second lieutenant to major general. And during that period >I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big >Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a >racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. > >I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of >it. Like all members of the military profession I never had an >original thought until I left the service. My mental faculties >remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of the >higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service. > >Thus I helped make Mexico, and especially Tampico, safe for American >oil interests in 1914. "I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place >for the National City Bank boys to collect revenue in. I helped in >the >raping of half-a-dozen Central American republics for the benefit of >Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify >Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers and >Co. in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the >sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras 'right' for American >fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that >Standard Oil went its way unmolested. > >During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a >swell racket. I was rewarded with honors, medals, and promotion. >Looking back on it, I feel that I might have given Al Capone a few >hints. The best he could do was to operate a racket in three city >districts. The Marines operated on three continents. > >Above was written by the late, great Major General Smedley Butler >(U.S. Marine Corps) > >--------- > >The problem is that too many American's have been brainwashed. The >devils in charge know that if they tell a lie enough times, that it >will become truth. The US occupation of Iraq is NOT a war on >terrorism. It is terrorism, and we're paying for it dearly. Over >800,000 thousand Iraqis of all ages (including many children) have >been killed since the Goliath USA began their illegal and immoral >invasion of Iraq. >2bc > >================================================= > >Facts You Might Not Know about the Iraq War > > The original terrorists in Iraq were the military and civilian >officials of the Bush administration -- starting with their "shock >and >awe" bombing campaign that destroyed Iraqi infrastructure in order to >"undermine civilian morale." The American form of terrorism continued >with the wholesale destruction of most of Falluja and parts of other >Sunni cities, designed to pacify the "hot beds" of insurgency, while >teaching the residents of those areas that, if they "harbor the >insurgents," they will surely "suffer the consequences." > >At the individual level, this program of terror was continued through >the invasions of, and demolishing of, homes (or, in some cases, parts >of neighborhoods) where insurgents were believed to be hidden among a >larger civilian population, thus spreading the "lesson" about >"harboring terrorists" to everyone in the Sunni sections of the >country. Generating a violent death rate of at least 18,000 per year, >the American drumbeat of terror has contributed more than its share >to >the recently escalating civilian death toll, which reached a record >3,149 in the official count during July. It is unfortunately accurate >to characterize the American occupation of Sunni Iraq as a reign of >terror. > >from: >http://www.TomDispatch.com >7 Facts You Might Not Know about the Iraq War >by Michael Schwartz > >================================ > >==================== > >Here are some good sources for news that are not controlled by >insanely greedy >American businessmen, who don't care if their dollars are soaked in >the blood of >little Iraqi children: > >http://AlterNet.org >http://Anti-War.com >http://caracasnews.com >http://www.CommonDreams.org >http://www.DemocracyNow.org >http://www.gregpalast.com >http://www.TomDispatch.com >http://www.truthdig.com >http://www.truthout.org > > >On Jun 7, 10:55 am, Max <maxhem...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> The following is from:http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqdontenlist.html#DONTENLIST >> >> Please read & share this with others on as wide a scale as possible. >> >> REASONS NOT TO ENLIST IN the US Military and join the Iraq war. >> >> On average, a surgeon has to amputate the genitals of two wounded US >> soldiers each day in Iraq. >> >> You may be killed. Your family, friends and people who love you will >> have a lifetime of heartache. Any children you would have fathered >> will be aborted with you. >> >> You may be maimed, have one or more limbs amputated or lose half your >> face or your penis and balls. You will live the rest of your life >> disabled. You may be so disfigured you will never have sex again. You >> will be stuck with the bulk of the medical bills. Modern medicine can >> resuscitate badly maimed people who would have died in previous wars. >> This means the Iraq war is cranking out an unusually high numbers of >> seriously maimed people. >> >> Many returning from Iraq become mental basket cases unable to deal >> with the horrors of war and the guilt at what they have done. Friends >> and family reject them. They can't hold down a job. They become >> homeless. Look at the way American treats the homeless vets of the >> Viet Nam and Iraq wars begging on the streets. >> >> Over half the soldiers who served in the Gulf War, died of Gulf War >> Syndrome or were treated for it. They were in Iraq for only weeks. You >> will be there years. Read the fine print. Bush is keeping soldiers in >> Iraq for years after their contract expires. To this day no one knows >> for sure what causes Gulf War Syndrome. >> >> You will be exposed to DU (Depleted Uranium), as were soldiers in the >> first Gulf War. This may cause cancer later, or even more likely will >> cause your children and their children to be genetically deformed. >> Check out the middle part of this video that shows what sort of >> children are common to those exposed to the DU-laden winds in Iraq. >> Imagine explaining to your wife why you did this to her. Also pay >> attention to parts how can make your wife and family sick indirectly. >> >> Iraq is no threat to the USA. You are not defending your country. >> There were no WMDs. Even Bush admits Iraq had nothing to do with the >> terrorist attacks on 9/11. >> "We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the >> September 11th attacks." >> ~ George W. Bush, 2003-09-17, audio. >> >> The USA illegally attacked an unarmed country under false pretenses. >> The war is about ignoble motives such as oil and world domination. >> There is utterly no point is you risking your life in Iraq. >> >> reasons continue at: >> >> http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqdontenlist.html#DONTENLIST >> >> ======== >> >> If Americans are going to pay for the war, they should be shown the >> war, including pictures of the hundreds of thousands of little >> children and women who have been killed and permanently disfigured in >> Bush's so called "war on terror". >> >> WAR PICTURES >> >> Pictures of Destruction and Civilian Victims of the Anglo-American >> Aggression in Iraq >> >> These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the hundreds of >> thousands of Iraqi Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, >> humiliated, injured, maimed and killed through British and American >> bombing of civilian areas in various cities of Iraq. Due to >> insecurity, independent reporters could not and still can not reach >> many areas to photograph and report the atrocities. Several >> independent reporters and journalists were deliberately bombed to >> prevent them reporting the atrocities. >> >> WARNING: >> PLEASE NOTE THAT SOME OF THESE PICTURES ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR SMALL >> CHILDREN AND THOSE WITH WEAK HEARTS. >> >> Mind Prod:http://snipurl.com/h6tp >> >> The truth will set us free (from support warmonging politicians and >> their filthy wars). >> >> ============ >> >> "Without sharing there can be no justice; >> without justice there can be no peace; >> Without peace there can be no future." >> Maitreya the World Teacherhttp://www.share-international.org > Quote
Guest Lone Haranguer Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 2B-Clear wrote: Over > 800,000 thousand Iraqis of all ages (including many children) have > been killed since the Goliath USA began their illegal and immoral > invasion of Iraq. > 2bc 800,000 eh? Since you have the number, could we have the names, dates and places to verify the count? LZ Quote
Guest chatnoir Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 On Jun 10, 12:03 pm, k...@snow.com wrote: > In article <1181417562.453995.281...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, > > wegona_befree <wegona_bef...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >http://www.derfcity.com/n/newtoon.html > > This guy is mentally ill. Hope he stays in the comfort of Canada. I > almost didn't reply to this because I hate to give him the attention he > is looking for. His other outlet is probably Pedophilia. He cares > about children, all right. He "gets off" on his own form of > pornography, even asking people to provide him more pictures for his > pleasure. > > "I don't really give a fig personally about US soldiers who die. > Those > US soldiers voluntarily chose the profession of hired killers. They kill > for thrills and money, not because they are defending their country. That sure defines Iraq! I > care about civilians, especially children, of any nationality or > religion. I realise, however, that most Americans are infected with > racism and nationalism and care only about American deaths and then only > white ones, so I will gladly post any photos you can find of US > casualties to pound home the cost of this war in suffering to Americans > too." > Like these American troops captioned?: http://www.undermars.com/gallery77.html Go up in # for more pics Quote
Guest chatnoir Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 On Jun 10, 12:03 pm, k...@snow.com wrote: > In article <1181417562.453995.281...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, > > wegona_befree <wegona_bef...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >http://www.derfcity.com/n/newtoon.html > > This guy is mentally ill. Hope he stays in the comfort of Canada. I > almost didn't reply to this because I hate to give him the attention he > is looking for. His other outlet is probably Pedophilia. He cares > about children, all right. He "gets off" on his own form of > pornography, even asking people to provide him more pictures for his > pleasure. > > "I don't really give a fig personally about US soldiers who die. Those > US soldiers voluntarily chose the profession of hired killers. They kill > for thrills and money, not because they are defending their country. Ya shure got dat right!: http://www.oldamericancentury.org/Iraq_instead.jpg I > care about civilians, especially children, of any nationality or > religion. I realise, however, that most Americans are infected with > racism and nationalism and care only about American deaths and then only > white ones, so I will gladly post any photos you can find of US > casualties to pound home the cost of this war in suffering to Americans > too." > > -- Quote
Guest bo_dacious@mactan.org Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 23:30:04 -0500, smutt butt <smutt.butt.2ry2zb@wpyo.bbs.local> wrote: >Thankfully everyone is not a coward like you. When will muslim lovin >shit like you realize what is going on in the world? > >I had no problem adjusting after gulf war # 1. Roedy Green, who owns the web page: http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqwarpix.html#IRAQWARPIX Is a Canadian homosexual with AIDS. He often post his anti-American propaganda in alt.politics.homosexuality. That would be a good newsgroup in which to show your dislike for this despicable person. >-- >smutt butt >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >smutt butt's Profile: http://Off Topic Forum.com/member.php?userid=181 >View this thread: http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=222887 > >Posted via Forum to Usenet Gateway at http://Off Topic Forum.com Quote
Guest Testor Grey Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 04:27:33 -0000, 2B-Clear <2BClear@gmail.com> wrote: >I spent thirty-three years and four months in active service in the >country's most agile military force, the Marines. I served in all >ranks from second lieutenant to major general. And during that period >I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big >Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a >racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. >Above was written by the late, great Major General Smedley Butler >(U.S. Marine Corps) Butler was known for his outspoken lectures against war profiteering and what he viewed as nascent fascism in the United States. During the 1930s, he gave many such speeches to pacifist groups. Between 1935 and 1937, he served as a spokesman for the American League Against War and Fascism (which some considered communist-dominated).[5] 5 ^ Schmidt, p. 234; For more on the individuals which considered the organization communist: Klehr, Harvey. The Heyday of American Communism. Basic Books. ISBN 0-465-02946-9. p. 110-12, 372-73. J.E. Hoover characterized the peace campaign as "the most important phase of the united front program of the Communist Party"; Hoover to Watson (secretary to the president), 6 Dec. 1940, FDRL, OF 10b, box 24. Quote
Guest Lone Haranguer Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 chatnoir wrote: > On Jun 10, 12:03 pm, k...@snow.com wrote: > I realise, however, that most Americans are infected with >>racism and nationalism and care only about American deaths and then only >>white ones, so I will gladly post any photos you can find of US >>casualties to pound home the cost of this war in suffering to Americans >>too." We lost 40,000 troops in Korea so the South Koreans wouldn't be living like those in the North. How many did you lose? LZ Quote
Guest publius2k Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 prosperity? is that what you call the spoils of war? of murdering, raping, raiding and plundering other defenseless peoples? Sure, big time thieves such as state terrorists can provide some perks to silence the people on the home front... but all that speaks of is a people without ethics. Wrote Ben Franklin: "It is said by those who know Europe generally, that there are more Thefts committed and punish Quote
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