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Guest Wide Eyed in Wonder
Posted

This is specifically about the terrorists that claim to be Muslims,

not all Muslims.

 

There has been much condemnation of some discrimination against all

Muslims or all Arabs by the US in their search for terrorists in our

borders or worldwide.

 

The Hypocrisy

 

The terrorists struck a civilian building (World Trade Center) on

9-11, which was not an attack against soldiers or the government but

against the common American, showing discrimination against all

Americans for the acts of a few leaders. Then, there is their attacks

on Jews worldwide for the actions of a few Jews nearby in Israel. The

clear hypocrisy is that they have for many decades (at least) engaged

in mass prejudice and acts of discrimination against Americans and

Jews for a long time but are upset about it when others act the same

towards them.

 

Ken Clifton

christiansuperhero.com

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Guest Bob LeChevalier
Posted

Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

>This is specifically about the terrorists that claim to be Muslims,

>not all Muslims.

 

Unfortunately your statements make that a lie.

>There has been much condemnation of some discrimination against all

>Muslims or all Arabs by the US in their search for terrorists in our

>borders or worldwide.

>

>The Hypocrisy

>

>The terrorists struck a civilian building (World Trade Center) on

>9-11,

 

Some specific terrorists. Or possibly one can say one specific

organization of terrorists.

>which was not an attack against soldiers or the government but

>against the common American,

 

Who those terrorists consider to be at war with them (not that we

agree with their opinion)

>showing discrimination against all Americans for the acts of a few leaders.

 

We elect those leaders. This can legitimately be used as an argument

that we approve of their acts.

>Then, there is their attacks

>on Jews worldwide for the actions of a few Jews nearby in Israel.

 

Are these the same terrorists? Probably not. You are lumping all

terrorists together.

 

But in point of fact, the state of Israel is entirely dependent on

world support, especially by Jews, for its continued existence.

>The clear hypocrisy is that they

 

Who? The terrorists?

>have for many decades (at least) engaged

>in mass prejudice and acts of discrimination against Americans and

>Jews for a long time

 

Very few of the terrorists have been alive for many decades.

>but are upset about it when others act the same towards them.

 

The upset is from those who are NOT terrorists and who do NOT support

terrorism either directly or indirectly, who receive prejudice. You

are clearly NOT talking about the terrorists in this line, thus making

your initial statement a lie.

 

lojbab

Guest Cary Kittrell
Posted

In article <1181826267.127944.136000@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:

> This is specifically about the terrorists that claim to be Muslims,

> not all Muslims.

>

> There has been much condemnation of some discrimination against all

> Muslims or all Arabs by the US in their search for terrorists in our

> borders or worldwide.

>

> The Hypocrisy

>

> The terrorists struck a civilian building (World Trade Center) on

> 9-11, which was not an attack against soldiers or the government but

> against the common American, showing discrimination against all

> Americans for the acts of a few leaders. Then, there is their attacks

> on Jews worldwide for the actions of a few Jews nearby in Israel. The

> clear hypocrisy is that they have for many decades (at least) engaged

> in mass prejudice and acts of discrimination against Americans and

> Jews for a long time but are upset about it when others act the same

> towards them.

 

 

 

"This is specifically about the terrorists that claim to be Muslims,

not all Muslims."

 

So, you're telling us that Muslim terrorists have been complaining

about discrimination?

 

I was not aware of that. Got some specific examples?

 

 

-- cary

Posted
This is specifically about the terrorists that claim to be Muslims,

not all Muslims.

 

There has been much condemnation of some discrimination against all

Muslims or all Arabs by the US in their search for terrorists in our

borders or worldwide.

 

The Hypocrisy

 

The terrorists struck a civilian building (World Trade Center) on

9-11, which was not an attack against soldiers or the government but

against the common American, showing discrimination against all

Americans for the acts of a few leaders. Then, there is their attacks

on Jews worldwide for the actions of a few Jews nearby in Israel. The

clear hypocrisy is that they have for many decades (at least) engaged

in mass prejudice and acts of discrimination against Americans and

Jews for a long time but are upset about it when others act the same

towards them.

 

Ken Clifton

christiansuperhero.com

 

WHAT! HOW CAN THIS BE! I'm....I'm actually agreeing with you! Ken, since when did you start talking sense?

Guest Bill Rood
Posted

Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:

> This is specifically about the terrorists that claim to be Muslims,

> not all Muslims.

>

> There has been much condemnation of some discrimination against all

> Muslims or all Arabs by the US in their search for terrorists in our

> borders or worldwide.

>

> The Hypocrisy

>

> The terrorists struck a civilian building (World Trade Center) on

> 9-11, which was not an attack against soldiers or the government but

> against the common American, showing discrimination against all

> Americans for the acts of a few leaders. Then, there is their attacks

> on Jews worldwide for the actions of a few Jews nearby in Israel. The

> clear hypocrisy is that they have for many decades (at least) engaged

> in mass prejudice and acts of discrimination against Americans and

> Jews for a long time but are upset about it when others act the same

> towards them.

 

Christian Britain, France and the US, and Zionist Israel have for

decades been bombing and killing innocent Muslims in their own countries.

 

You need to get a good mirror.

>

> Ken Clifton

> christiansuperhero.com

>

Guest Wide Eyed in Wonder
Posted

On Jun 14, 11:16 am, Bob LeChevalier <loj...@lojban.org> wrote:

> Wide Eyed in Wonder <kand...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>

> >This is specifically about the terrorists that claim to be Muslims,

> >not all Muslims.

>

> Unfortunately your statements make that a lie.

>

> >There has been much condemnation of some discrimination against all

> >Muslims or all Arabs by the US in their search for terrorists in our

> >borders or worldwide.

>

> >The Hypocrisy

>

> >The terrorists struck a civilian building (World Trade Center) on

> >9-11,

>

> Some specific terrorists. Or possibly one can say one specific

> organization of terrorists.

>

> >which was not an attack against soldiers or the government but

> >against the common American,

>

> Who those terrorists consider to be at war with them (not that we

> agree with their opinion)

>

 

Bingo. They prejudice all Americans due to the acts of a few.

 

Ken Clifton

christiansuperhero.com

Guest Bob LeChevalier
Posted

Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> >The terrorists struck a civilian building (World Trade Center) on

>> >9-11,

>>

>> Some specific terrorists. Or possibly one can say one specific

>> organization of terrorists.

>>

>> >which was not an attack against soldiers or the government but

>> >against the common American,

>>

>> Who those terrorists consider to be at war with them (not that we

>> agree with their opinion)

>

>Bingo. They prejudice all Americans due to the acts of a few.

 

"We the people" are collectively responsible for the actions of our

elected government. They view that government as supporting Israel

which they are at war with.

 

Or do you view a republic as a form of abdication of responsibility?

 

Their prejudice is justified in their eyes. Their actions based on

that prejudice are illegal. But we are not at war with Islam, but

with particular terrorists who use illegal tactics to fight us.

 

lojbab

Guest Cary Kittrell
Posted

Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org>

>

> Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >> >The terrorists struck a civilian building (World Trade Center) on

> >> >9-11,

> >>

> >> Some specific terrorists. Or possibly one can say one specific

> >> organization of terrorists.

> >>

> >> >which was not an attack against soldiers or the government but

> >> >against the common American,

> >>

> >> Who those terrorists consider to be at war with them (not that we

> >> agree with their opinion)

> >

> >Bingo. They prejudice all Americans due to the acts of a few.

>

> "We the people" are collectively responsible for the actions of our

> elected government. They view that government as supporting Israel

> which they are at war with.

 

And beyond that, I suspect, they may well view us as

the embodiment of a modern, secular, materialist

worldview. It must look to them that some kind

of Cultural Crusade is taking place -- and it is,

even if we're not trying -- and we're seeing

a lastguard reaction to it.

 

The sad irony is that the people over here who

are having exactly the same reaction -- the

culture warriors of the right -- seem to be

the same people who have the least understanding

of the upheavals going on in the Middle

East.

 

I have sympathy for them both -- and I also wish, heartily,

that both would just go away.

 

 

-- cary

Guest Atheist are Stooges
Posted

"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message

news:f4uu7j$fh5$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...

> Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org>

>>

>> Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> >> >The terrorists struck a civilian building (World Trade Center) on

>> >> >9-11,

>> >>

>> >> Some specific terrorists. Or possibly one can say one specific

>> >> organization of terrorists.

>> >>

>> >> >which was not an attack against soldiers or the government but

>> >> >against the common American,

>> >>

>> >> Who those terrorists consider to be at war with them (not that we

>> >> agree with their opinion)

>> >

>> >Bingo. They prejudice all Americans due to the acts of a few.

>>

>> "We the people" are collectively responsible for the actions of our

>> elected government. They view that government as supporting Israel

>> which they are at war with.

>

> And beyond that, I suspect, they may well view us as

> the embodiment of a modern, secular, materialist

> worldview. It must look to them that some kind

> of Cultural Crusade is taking place -- and it is,

> even if we're not trying -- and we're seeing

> a lastguard reaction to it.

>

> The sad irony is that the people over here who

> are having exactly the same reaction -- the

> culture warriors of the right -- seem to be

> the same people who have the least understanding

> of the upheavals going on in the Middle

> East.

>

> I have sympathy for them both -- and I also wish, heartily,

> that both would just go away.

>

>

> -- cary

 

Cary the spineless is a sick parody of human tragedy, a pathetic amalgam of

the worst person. COM and this forum has to offer, a combination of the

social butterfly and the terminally mundane, liberally sprinkled with bitter

memories and a large dose of a demolished sense of self-worth.

Guest Wide Eyed in Wonder
Posted

On Jun 15, 3:24 pm, Bob LeChevalier <loj...@lojban.org> wrote:

> Wide Eyed in Wonder <kand...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>

> >> >The terrorists struck a civilian building (World Trade Center) on

> >> >9-11,

>

> >> Some specific terrorists. Or possibly one can say one specific

> >> organization of terrorists.

>

> >> >which was not an attack against soldiers or the government but

> >> >against the common American,

>

> >> Who those terrorists consider to be at war with them (not that we

> >> agree with their opinion)

>

> >Bingo. They prejudice all Americans due to the acts of a few.

>

> "We the people" are collectively responsible for the actions of our

> elected government. They view that government as supporting Israel

> which they are at war with.

>

> Or do you view a republic as a form of abdication of responsibility?

>

> Their prejudice is justified in their eyes. Their actions based on

> that prejudice are illegal. But we are not at war with Islam, but

> with particular terrorists who use illegal tactics to fight us.

>

> lojbab

 

 

Bob. I've recently realized that those that are most abusive are the

most in need of (and the most desiring) love and forgiveness, even if

they refuse to see it. So, I'm going to change my tactic on you.

Instead of trying to reason with you (realizing that you are not

subject to objective logic, since you make up your own), I am going

to just love you and forgive you. It will be hard (I can guess what

lies ahead of me), but I will not let you use me to keep yourself from

the kingdom of God.

 

I'm praying for you. May you find the love and forgiveness of a

Christ that pays for your sins.

 

Ken Clifton

Author of The Christian Superhero Training Guide

christiansuperhero.com

Posted
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message

news:f4uu7j$fh5$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...

> Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org>

>>

>> Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> >> >The terrorists struck a civilian building (World Trade Center) on

>> >> >9-11,

>> >>

>> >> Some specific terrorists. Or possibly one can say one specific

>> >> organization of terrorists.

>> >>

>> >> >which was not an attack against soldiers or the government but

>> >> >against the common American,

>> >>

>> >> Who those terrorists consider to be at war with them (not that we

>> >> agree with their opinion)

>> >

>> >Bingo. They prejudice all Americans due to the acts of a few.

>>

>> "We the people" are collectively responsible for the actions of our

>> elected government. They view that government as supporting Israel

>> which they are at war with.

>

> And beyond that, I suspect, they may well view us as

> the embodiment of a modern, secular, materialist

> worldview. It must look to them that some kind

> of Cultural Crusade is taking place -- and it is,

> even if we're not trying -- and we're seeing

> a lastguard reaction to it.

>

> The sad irony is that the people over here who

> are having exactly the same reaction -- the

> culture warriors of the right -- seem to be

> the same people who have the least understanding

> of the upheavals going on in the Middle

> East.

>

> I have sympathy for them both -- and I also wish, heartily,

> that both would just go away.

>

>

> -- cary

 

Cary the spineless is a sick parody of human tragedy, a pathetic amalgam of

the worst person. COM and this forum has to offer, a combination of the

social butterfly and the terminally mundane, liberally sprinkled with bitter

memories and a large dose of a demolished sense of self-worth.

 

What a fine example of the moral superiority of fundies you are, Stooges. Tell you what, you try to set a good example, and then see if people follow you, OK?

Guest Bob LeChevalier
Posted

Wide Eyed in Wonder <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Bob. I've recently realized that those that are most abusive are the

>most in need of (and the most desiring) love and forgiveness, even if

>they refuse to see it.

 

I see. You've realized that you've lost another argument, and so have

devised a new mantra to repeat in posts so as to have an answer to my

posts.

 

The mature thing to do is to shut up and go away, or simply to admit

that you've lost (or in this case, that you are simply a loser from

the getgo).

 

But you are choosing the 5-year-old's tactic of sticking your fingers

in your ears and running around shouting "I can't hear you" at the top

of your lungs.

 

just a hint .... Naah, I'll save it for the next manifestation of your

mantra that I read.

 

lojbab

Guest Wide Eyed in Wonder
Posted

On Jun 16, 5:32 pm, Bob LeChevalier <loj...@lojban.org> wrote:

> Wide Eyed in Wonder <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> >Bob. I've recently realized that those that are most abusive are the

> >most in need of (and the most desiring) love and forgiveness, even if

> >they refuse to see it.

>

> I see. You've realized that you've lost another argument, and so have

> devised a new mantra to repeat in posts so as to have an answer to my

> posts.

>

> The mature thing to do is to shut up and go away, or simply to admit

> that you've lost (or in this case, that you are simply a loser from

> the getgo).

>

> But you are choosing the 5-year-old's tactic of sticking your fingers

> in your ears and running around shouting "I can't hear you" at the top

> of your lungs.

>

> just a hint .... Naah, I'll save it for the next manifestation of your

> mantra that I read.

>

> lojbab

 

Say what you will. I will still love and forgive you. May you find

the peace of Christ.

 

Ken Clifton

Author of The Christian Superhero Training Guide

christiansuperhero.com

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