Guest Atheist are Stooges Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 You may be a fundy atheist if.... 1. You became an atheist when you were 10 years old, based on ideas of God that you learned in Sunday School. Your ideas about God haven't changed since. 2. You think that the primary aim of an omnibenevolent God is for people to have FUN. 3. You believe that extra drippy ice-cream is a logical proof against the existence of God, because an omniscient God would know how to stop the ice-cream from being extra drippy, an omnipotent God would have the ability to stop the ice-cream from being extra drippy, and by golly, an omnibenevolent God wouldn't want your ice-cream to be extra drippy. 4. Although you've memorized a half a dozen proofs that He doesn't exist, you still think you're God's gift to the ignorant masses. 5. You believe the astronomical size of the universe somehow disproves God, as if God needed a tiny universe in order to exist. 6. You think questions like, "Can God create a rock so big that He cannot lift it?" and, "Can God will Himself out of existence?" are perfect examples of how to disprove God's omnipotence and ultimately how to disprove God. When someone proves to you the false logic behind the questions (i.e. pitting God's omnipotence against itself), you desperately try to defend the questions, but then give up and go to a different Christian site to ask them. 7. Related to the above, you spend a great deal of your spare time writing to Christian websites asking them these very questions. 8. You declare on a public forum that you are "furious at God for not existing." 9. You spend hours arguing that a-theism actually means "without a belief in God " and not just " belief that there is no god" as if this is a meaningful distinction in real life. 10. You consistently deny the existence of God because you personally have never seen him but you reject out of hand personal testimony from theists who claim to have experienced God as a reality in their lives. 11. You can make the existence of pink unicorns the center-piece of a philosophical critique. 12. You insist that "the burden of proof is on he that alleges/accuses", and "it's impossible to prove a negative", then state "That's what Christians do. They lie. Their most common lie is that they were once atheists." When reminded about the burden of proof bit, you reply with, "Well, prove Christians don't lie!" 13. You adamantly believe that the "God of the gaps" idea is an essential tenet of orthodox Christian faith espoused by all the great Christian thinkers throughout history. 14. When you were a child, someone came down with a deadly disease and prayed and prayed for God to take it away. God did not remove the disease and your friend died. You ask other Christians why they had to die when they were such a nice person and never harmed anyone. Dissatisfied with their answers, you suddenly decide that there is no God and that all Christians are nothing but lying, conniving con artists and hypocrites....all that is except for your friend who died. Quote
Deathbringer Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 Yep. God not stopping extra-drippy ice cream is just silly. I mean, if I were god, I might do something about all those children starving to death in Africa way before I thought about ice cream. Wouldn't you? I personally cannot reconcile what I saw in Kenya with a just omnipotent being. An omnipotent being maybe, but not a just one or a sane one. Quote
Guest Atheist are Stooges Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 "Deathbringer" <Deathbringer.2s76rg@wpyo.bbs.local> wrote in message news:Deathbringer.2s76rg@wpyo.bbs.local... > > Yep. God not stopping extra-drippy ice cream is just silly. I mean, if I > were god, I might do something about all those children starving to > death in Africa way before I thought about ice cream. Wouldn't you? > > I personally cannot reconcile what I saw in Kenya with a just > omnipotent being. An omnipotent being maybe, but not a just one or a > sane one. > > > -- > Deathbringer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Deathbringer's Profile: > http://Off Topic Forum.com/member.php?userid=2753 > View this thread: http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=224758 > > Posted via Forum to Usenet Gateway at http://Off Topic Forum.com You militant atheists pretty much all work from the same script. Although viewing yourselves as "free thinkers", you all have a Party Line you follow rather closely. It isn't difficult to anticipate your arguments on any given point. Most intelligent religious individuals almost always can correctly predict what you'll say next.Interestingly, militant atheists get much of their beliefs about "Christianity" from liberal Christians. They'll pejoratively label all Christians as "Fundies", then presumptively attack liberal theological concepts they suppose us "Fundies" subscribe to ! Nearly all militant atheists are followers of the religion of Scientism. Their priests wear white lab coats. Their sacramental objects are the microscope, the telescope, and the test tube. Blasphemy is to deny the ultimate authority of science. But the militant atheists -the ones who have devoted their lives to refuting Christianity- are almost like the demons ...who believe more firmly in God's existence than do Christians ! It can unequivocally be stated that militant atheists are some of the people who most solidly believe in God ! Ain't talking 'practical atheists' here ...those who don't even think much about atheism. They're the true atheists. Professional atheists who've dedicated themselves to eradicating the Lord do so because they hate Him. They're the God-haters. To which they'll invariably reply: 'How can we hate something we don't believe in ?'. Exactly ! It's their belief in God which drives them to relentlessly attack Him. Run of the mill, everyday 'practical atheists' don't give God a second thought. They're the ones I worry about. Whereas militant atheists are fighting against the innate knowledge of suppressed in their hearts. As a militant atheist I can unequivocally state that there is no time in your life that you totally disbelieved in God. And -in fact- were driven to work against the Lord by belief in Him ! It isn't that militant atheists don't believe God exists. Instead: That they don't want God to exist. Quote
Guest Christopher Morris Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 "Deathbringer" <Deathbringer.2s76rg@wpyo.bbs.local> wrote in message news:Deathbringer.2s76rg@wpyo.bbs.local... > > Yep. God not stopping extra-drippy ice cream is just silly. I mean, if I > were god, I might do something about all those children starving to > death in Africa way before I thought about ice cream. Wouldn't you? > > I personally cannot reconcile what I saw in Kenya with a just > omnipotent being. An omnipotent being maybe, but not a just one or a > sane one. > I understand your feelings on this and I agree with you to a degree, but I have to wonder if it is not the Divine who have set us to the task of helping one another and especially those most in need. Personally I have never espoused the idea of a Divine force that was within the understanding of the limited human mind, thus I do not attempt to figure out all the whys when I could be working on just doing my part to make it better. > -- > Deathbringer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Deathbringer's Profile: > http://Off Topic Forum.com/member.php?userid=2753 > View this thread: http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=224758 > > Posted via Forum to Usenet Gateway at http://Off Topic Forum.com > Quote
Guest primordial_ylem@yahoo.com Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 On Jun 14, 7:36 pm, "Atheist are Stooges" <Atheist.Stoo...@Yahoo.com> wrote: Rant deleted... > That they don't want God to exist. Desiring a god to be or wanting "it" not to exist does not either validate or invalidate "its" existence. Science and reason can neither confirm or deny, therefore the wise man says either nothing at all or plainly "I do not know." Merely believing does not make it so. That life evolved on this planet is incontestable to any reasoning mind. We can, indeed, see it happening. OTOH, no one has "seen" this god you speak of. Merely "feeling" its existence on some vague emotive level may enliven an individual, but this dubious private revelation cannot be used as evidence for its actual existence. Neither can it be proved by waving about some ancient book. All faiths have their books, why is one more sacred and definitive than another? Militancy about anything is indicative of intellectual and emotional insecurity. Ylem Quote
Deathbringer Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 "Deathbringer" <Deathbringer.2s76rg@wpyo.bbs.local> wrote in message news:Deathbringer.2s76rg@wpyo.bbs.local... > > Yep. God not stopping extra-drippy ice cream is just silly. I mean, if I > were god, I might do something about all those children starving to > death in Africa way before I thought about ice cream. Wouldn't you? > > I personally cannot reconcile what I saw in Kenya with a just > omnipotent being. An omnipotent being maybe, but not a just one or a > sane one. > > > -- > Deathbringer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Deathbringer's Profile: > http://Off Topic Forum.com/member.php?userid=2753 > View this thread: http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=224758 > > Posted via Forum to Usenet Gateway at http://Off Topic Forum.com You militant atheists pretty much all work from the same script. Although viewing yourselves as "free thinkers", you all have a Party Line you follow rather closely. It isn't difficult to anticipate your arguments on any given point. Most intelligent religious individuals almost always can correctly predict what you'll say next.Interestingly, militant atheists get much of their beliefs about "Christianity" from liberal Christians. They'll pejoratively label all Christians as "Fundies", then presumptively attack liberal theological concepts they suppose us "Fundies" subscribe to ! Nearly all militant atheists are followers of the religion of Scientism. Their priests wear white lab coats. Their sacramental objects are the microscope, the telescope, and the test tube. Blasphemy is to deny the ultimate authority of science. But the militant atheists -the ones who have devoted their lives to refuting Christianity- are almost like the demons ...who believe more firmly in God's existence than do Christians ! It can unequivocally be stated that militant atheists are some of the people who most solidly believe in God ! Ain't talking 'practical atheists' here ...those who don't even think much about atheism. They're the true atheists. Professional atheists who've dedicated themselves to eradicating the Lord do so because they hate Him. They're the God-haters. To which they'll invariably reply: 'How can we hate something we don't believe in ?'. Exactly ! It's their belief in God which drives them to relentlessly attack Him. Run of the mill, everyday 'practical atheists' don't give God a second thought. They're the ones I worry about. Whereas militant atheists are fighting against the innate knowledge of suppressed in their hearts. As a militant atheist I can unequivocally state that there is no time in your life that you totally disbelieved in God. And -in fact- were driven to work against the Lord by belief in Him ! It isn't that militant atheists don't believe God exists. Instead: That they don't want God to exist. You just copy and paste that cookie cutter rant after every valid point I make specifically to piss me off, don't you? Its getting old. I've already tried to explain it to you twice now. Quote
Guest Atheist are Stooges Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 "Deathbringer" <Deathbringer.2s8bhz@wpyo.bbs.local> wrote in message news:Deathbringer.2s8bhz@wpyo.bbs.local... > > Atheist are Stooges;1509319 Wrote: >> "Deathbringer" <Deathbringer.2s76rg@wpyo.bbs.local> wrote in message >> news:Deathbringer.2s76rg@wpyo.bbs.local... >> > >> > Yep. God not stopping extra-drippy ice cream is just silly. I mean, >> if I >> > were god, I might do something about all those children starving to >> > death in Africa way before I thought about ice cream. Wouldn't you? >> > >> > I personally cannot reconcile what I saw in Kenya with a just >> > omnipotent being. An omnipotent being maybe, but not a just one or a >> > sane one. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Deathbringer >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Deathbringer's Profile: >> > http://Off Topic Forum.com/member.php?userid=2753 >> > View this thread: >> http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=224758 >> > >> > Posted via Forum to Usenet Gateway at >> http://Off Topic Forum.com >> >> You militant atheists pretty much all work from the same script. >> Although viewing yourselves as "free thinkers", you all have a Party >> Line >> you follow rather closely. >> It isn't difficult to anticipate your arguments on any >> given point. Most intelligent religious individuals almost always can >> >> correctly predict what >> you'll say next.Interestingly, militant atheists get much of their >> beliefs >> about "Christianity" from liberal Christians. >> They'll pejoratively label all Christians as "Fundies", >> then presumptively attack liberal theological concepts >> they suppose us "Fundies" subscribe to ! >> Nearly all militant atheists are followers of the >> religion of Scientism. Their priests wear white lab >> coats. Their sacramental objects are the microscope, >> the telescope, and the test tube. Blasphemy is to >> deny the ultimate authority of science. >> But the militant atheists -the ones who have devoted >> their lives to refuting Christianity- are almost like the >> demons ...who believe more firmly in God's existence >> than do Christians ! >> It can unequivocally be stated that militant atheists are some >> of the people who most solidly believe in God ! >> Ain't talking 'practical atheists' here ...those who don't >> even think much about atheism. They're the true >> atheists. >> Professional atheists who've dedicated themselves >> to eradicating the Lord do so because they hate Him. >> They're the God-haters. >> To which they'll invariably reply: 'How can we hate >> something we don't believe in ?'. >> Exactly ! It's their belief in God which drives them to >> relentlessly attack Him. >> Run of the mill, everyday 'practical atheists' don't >> give God a second thought. They're the ones >> I worry about. >> Whereas militant atheists are fighting against the >> innate knowledge of suppressed in their hearts. >> As a militant atheist I can unequivocally state that there is no time >> in >> your life that you >> totally disbelieved in God. And -in fact- were driven to >> work against the Lord by belief in Him ! >> It isn't that militant atheists don't believe God exists. >> Instead: That they don't want God to exist. > > You just copy and paste that cookie cutter rant after every valid point > I make specifically to piss me off, don't you? Its getting old. I've > already tried to explain it to you twice now. > > > -- > Deathbringer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Deathbringer's Profile: > http://Off Topic Forum.com/member.php?userid=2753 > View this thread: http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=224758 > > Posted via Forum to Usenet Gateway at http://Off Topic Forum.com Of course you provide no scientific rebuttal because you are incapable of doing so. Talking mud, flying pigs, magic monkeys, and breathing rocks. It's all right there in the church of Darwin the apostate preacher who once practiced witchcraft in the South Pacific. > Quote
Deathbringer Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 "Deathbringer" <Deathbringer.2s8bhz@wpyo.bbs.local> wrote in message news:Deathbringer.2s8bhz@wpyo.bbs.local... > > Atheist are Stooges;1509319 Wrote: >> "Deathbringer" <Deathbringer.2s76rg@wpyo.bbs.local> wrote in message >> news:Deathbringer.2s76rg@wpyo.bbs.local... >> > >> > Yep. God not stopping extra-drippy ice cream is just silly. I mean, >> if I >> > were god, I might do something about all those children starving to >> > death in Africa way before I thought about ice cream. Wouldn't you? >> > >> > I personally cannot reconcile what I saw in Kenya with a just >> > omnipotent being. An omnipotent being maybe, but not a just one or a >> > sane one. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Deathbringer >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Deathbringer's Profile: >> > http://Off Topic Forum.com/member.php?userid=2753 >> > View this thread: >> http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=224758 >> > >> > Posted via Forum to Usenet Gateway at >> http://Off Topic Forum.com >> >> You militant atheists pretty much all work from the same script. >> Although viewing yourselves as "free thinkers", you all have a Party >> Line >> you follow rather closely. >> It isn't difficult to anticipate your arguments on any >> given point. Most intelligent religious individuals almost always can >> >> correctly predict what >> you'll say next.Interestingly, militant atheists get much of their >> beliefs >> about "Christianity" from liberal Christians. >> They'll pejoratively label all Christians as "Fundies", >> then presumptively attack liberal theological concepts >> they suppose us "Fundies" subscribe to ! >> Nearly all militant atheists are followers of the >> religion of Scientism. Their priests wear white lab >> coats. Their sacramental objects are the microscope, >> the telescope, and the test tube. Blasphemy is to >> deny the ultimate authority of science. >> But the militant atheists -the ones who have devoted >> their lives to refuting Christianity- are almost like the >> demons ...who believe more firmly in God's existence >> than do Christians ! >> It can unequivocally be stated that militant atheists are some >> of the people who most solidly believe in God ! >> Ain't talking 'practical atheists' here ...those who don't >> even think much about atheism. They're the true >> atheists. >> Professional atheists who've dedicated themselves >> to eradicating the Lord do so because they hate Him. >> They're the God-haters. >> To which they'll invariably reply: 'How can we hate >> something we don't believe in ?'. >> Exactly ! It's their belief in God which drives them to >> relentlessly attack Him. >> Run of the mill, everyday 'practical atheists' don't >> give God a second thought. They're the ones >> I worry about. >> Whereas militant atheists are fighting against the >> innate knowledge of suppressed in their hearts. >> As a militant atheist I can unequivocally state that there is no time >> in >> your life that you >> totally disbelieved in God. And -in fact- were driven to >> work against the Lord by belief in Him ! >> It isn't that militant atheists don't believe God exists. >> Instead: That they don't want God to exist. > > You just copy and paste that cookie cutter rant after every valid point > I make specifically to piss me off, don't you? Its getting old. I've > already tried to explain it to you twice now. > > > -- > Deathbringer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Deathbringer's Profile: > http://Off Topic Forum.com/member.php?userid=2753 > View this thread: http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=224758 > > Posted via Forum to Usenet Gateway at http://Off Topic Forum.com Of course you provide no scientific rebuttal because you are incapable of doing so. Talking mud, flying pigs, magic monkeys, and breathing rocks. It's all right there in the church of Darwin the apostate preacher who once practiced witchcraft in the South Pacific. > You are a sad, strange man. I already rebutted your rant on one of the previous times you used it, and I will not be bothered to dig it up for you. Now, explain what the heck you think evolution involves because I'm getting the sense that your definition of evolution is not the same as mine. Flying pigs? What the hell are you even talking about? Please define it in your own words. WITHOUT UNDUE INVECTIVE. Quote
Guest Atheist are Stooges Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 "Deathbringer" <Deathbringer.2sadkn@wpyo.bbs.local> wrote in message news:Deathbringer.2sadkn@wpyo.bbs.local... > > Atheist are Stooges;1510517 Wrote: >> "Deathbringer" <Deathbringer.2s8bhz@wpyo.bbs.local> wrote in message >> news:Deathbringer.2s8bhz@wpyo.bbs.local... >> > >> > Atheist are Stooges;1509319 Wrote: >> >> "Deathbringer" <Deathbringer.2s76rg@wpyo.bbs.local> wrote in >> message >> >> news:Deathbringer.2s76rg@wpyo.bbs.local... >> >> > >> >> > Yep. God not stopping extra-drippy ice cream is just silly. I >> mean, >> >> if I >> >> > were god, I might do something about all those children starving >> to >> >> > death in Africa way before I thought about ice cream. Wouldn't >> you? >> >> > >> >> > I personally cannot reconcile what I saw in Kenya with a just >> >> > omnipotent being. An omnipotent being maybe, but not a just one or >> a >> >> > sane one. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Deathbringer >> >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> > Deathbringer's Profile: >> >> > http://Off Topic Forum.com/member.php?userid=2753 >> >> > View this thread: >> >> http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=224758 >> >> > >> >> > Posted via Forum to Usenet Gateway at >> >> http://Off Topic Forum.com >> >> >> >> You militant atheists pretty much all work from the same script. >> >> Although viewing yourselves as "free thinkers", you all have a >> Party >> >> Line >> >> you follow rather closely. >> >> It isn't difficult to anticipate your arguments on any >> >> given point. Most intelligent religious individuals almost always >> can >> >> >> >> correctly predict what >> >> you'll say next.Interestingly, militant atheists get much of their >> >> beliefs >> >> about "Christianity" from liberal Christians. >> >> They'll pejoratively label all Christians as "Fundies", >> >> then presumptively attack liberal theological concepts >> >> they suppose us "Fundies" subscribe to ! >> >> Nearly all militant atheists are followers of the >> >> religion of Scientism. Their priests wear white lab >> >> coats. Their sacramental objects are the microscope, >> >> the telescope, and the test tube. Blasphemy is to >> >> deny the ultimate authority of science. >> >> But the militant atheists -the ones who have devoted >> >> their lives to refuting Christianity- are almost like the >> >> demons ...who believe more firmly in God's existence >> >> than do Christians ! >> >> It can unequivocally be stated that militant atheists are some >> >> of the people who most solidly believe in God ! >> >> Ain't talking 'practical atheists' here ...those who don't >> >> even think much about atheism. They're the true >> >> atheists. >> >> Professional atheists who've dedicated themselves >> >> to eradicating the Lord do so because they hate Him. >> >> They're the God-haters. >> >> To which they'll invariably reply: 'How can we hate >> >> something we don't believe in ?'. >> >> Exactly ! It's their belief in God which drives them to >> >> relentlessly attack Him. >> >> Run of the mill, everyday 'practical atheists' don't >> >> give God a second thought. They're the ones >> >> I worry about. >> >> Whereas militant atheists are fighting against the >> >> innate knowledge of suppressed in their hearts. >> >> As a militant atheist I can unequivocally state that there is no >> time >> >> in >> >> your life that you >> >> totally disbelieved in God. And -in fact- were driven to >> >> work against the Lord by belief in Him ! >> >> It isn't that militant atheists don't believe God exists. >> >> Instead: That they don't want God to exist. >> > >> > You just copy and paste that cookie cutter rant after every valid >> point >> > I make specifically to piss me off, don't you? Its getting old. I've >> > already tried to explain it to you twice now. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Deathbringer >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Deathbringer's Profile: >> > http://Off Topic Forum.com/member.php?userid=2753 >> > View this thread: >> http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=224758 >> > >> > Posted via Forum to Usenet Gateway at >> http://Off Topic Forum.com >> >> Of course you provide no scientific rebuttal because you are incapable >> of >> doing so. >> Talking mud, flying pigs, magic monkeys, and breathing rocks. >> It's all right there in the church of Darwin the apostate preacher who >> once >> practiced witchcraft in the South Pacific. >> > > > You are a sad, strange man. Translation: You lose Quote
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