Gospel of Judas

[slip_knot]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,,1748968,00.html

[jokersarewild]

It's a forgery.

[slip_knot]

Maybe, but it is an interesting read though.

 

But I don't think so. Carbon dating puts it way back then.

[jokersarewild]

Maybe, but it is an interesting read though.

 

But I don't think so. Carbon dating puts it way back then.

 

It is, I can almost guarantee it. Carbon dating doesn't matter. Forgeries were made back then, too. Mainly because someone wanted their work to be seen and were a poor schmuck who didn't have a chance in hell of getting it published any other way.

[Vortex]

History channel has been airing commericals about the new book that is currently being translated and put together.....Shrug...still pages written with an agenda im sure...but makes a great story, cant wait till its done...

[slip_knot]

It is, I can almost guarantee it. Carbon dating doesn't matter. Forgeries were made back then, too. Mainly because someone wanted their work to be seen and were a poor schmuck who didn't have a chance in hell of getting it published any other way.

Good point Joker, it would have been a whole lot easier to come up with a forgery then too. Unlike todays forger who need to first find some 2000 years old parchment and ink AND write in a long dead language. Go to the top of the class

[slip_knot]

Did anyone see The Life of Brian" by Monty Pythons Flying Circus ?

 

Remember the sketch where all those women were pretending to be men in order to get to see someone get stoned to death. They had stick on beards and stuff.

 

Well here is my theory, Judas was a woman !!!!!

 

It just has to be so. Go read the article again. Only a woman would say:

 

Quote:

 

Jesus made me do it.

[builder]

Did anyone see The Life of Brian" by Monty Pythons Flying Circus ?

 

Remember the sketch where all those women were pretending to be men in order to get to see someone get stoned to death. They had stick on beards and stuff.

 

Well here is my theory, Judas was a woman !!!!!

 

It just has to be so. Go read the article again. Only a woman would say:

 

Quote:

 

Jesus made me do it.

 

Funny movie. But hey, we've got another American president currently acting like a certain German dicatator, claiming that God is guiding his hand. What's the fucking difference?

[angie]

It is, I can almost guarantee it. Carbon dating doesn't matter. Forgeries were made back then, too. Mainly because someone wanted their work to be seen and were a poor schmuck who didn't have a chance in hell of getting it published any other way.

Almost only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades.

Who's to say the shit in the bible isn't a bunch of fallacies? It's been rewritten so many times over who knows what the original thing really said?

[jokersarewild]

Almost only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades.

Who's to say the shit in the bible isn't a bunch of fallacies? It's been rewritten so many times over who knows what the original thing really said?

 

I never said it wasn't full of forgeries. There is still debate about it today. Some believe that the letter from paul to timothy is a forgery.

[hugo]

Funny movie. But hey, we've got another American president currently acting like a certain German dicatator, claiming that God is guiding his hand. What's the fucking difference?

 

We need to stoke up the fire.

[builder]

We need to stoke up the fire.

 

Ain't that the truth?

[Vortex]

Funny movie. But hey, we've got another American president currently acting like a certain German dicatator, claiming that God is guiding his hand. What's the fucking difference?

 

None...and apparently nothing we do seems to work. were just gonna have to ride this out and hope those that actually voted for him vote smarter next time...

[LeftRightOut]

Did anyone see The Life of Brian" by Monty Pythons Flying Circus ?

 

Remember the sketch where all those women were pretending to be men in order to get to see someone get stoned to death. They had stick on beards and stuff.

 

Well here is my theory, Judas was a woman !!!!!

 

It just has to be so. Go read the article again. Only a woman would say:

 

Quote:

 

Jesus made me do it.

 

I always thought Judas was gay but a transvestite too? Mabe post-op?

I need to catch up on this new fangled bible shit, you guys are way ahead of me on this.

[builder]

Simple knowledge it can be lost almost overnight.

 

And common knowledge is not so common.

 

The big "dumbing down" is working exactly to plan.

 

I'm constantly astounded by the lack of basic english and math skills in seemingly bright young people.

 

The history you speak of really is "greek" to most people, meaning they have no idea at all.

[jokersarewild]

And common knowledge is not so common.

 

The big "dumbing down" is working exactly to plan.

 

I'm constantly astounded by the lack of basic english and math skills in seemingly bright young people.

 

The history you speak of really is "greek" to most people, meaning they have no idea at all.

 

What's sad is how true that is. There are so many kids my age who know almost nothing about history, have the worst math skills in the world, and can't speak correctly (using good instead of well, etc...).

[Lethalfind]

I think everyone would benefit from a more dispassionate examination of things like this then Christians are capable of. They WANT to believe what is currently in the Bible is all that belongs there...but is that really true? Has anyone really examined how certain books were put in the Bible and others were left out? Pretty arbitrary if you ask me and probably because the people who were responsible had an agenda of their own to push.

 

Has anyone here read one of the older Catholic Bibles, the one with all the extra books not commonly found in the Bible? Are those books any less important then the ones in the traditional Bible?

 

Has anyone really compared just how different Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are? Read over them and instead of trying to make them similar look for how very different they are. Its my understanding that there were 30 gospels similar to these four and somehow they got weeded out in favor of these four...WHY? You might well ask...some idiot back there must know the answer to that question.

[Gallytuck]

I don't see why we tolerate these morons who need that spiritual crutch in order to survive. Christianity is bullshit. Judaism is bullshit. Islam is bullshit. Get a grip. What's so hard with living with the fact that we don't really know what the fuck we are, where we came from, and why we're here? There's some good guesses and some really bad guesses but world religions are fucking things up and cockblocking us from the truth. And I should be nice to sheeple?

[Quarky1.0]

Have you noticed something about all these Gospels, they were all written 300-400 years after the event(s) happened. I have a number of problems with this.

1: Why the fuck did they wait 300 years to write the events down. You would have through they would want to write what happened as soon as possible, to keep the events fresh and true to what happened.

2: Some of the Gospels contradict the events in other gospels.

3: How can the gospels be taken as credible, the so called witness were all long dead, unless they all lived for hundred or years and seen as though the average life span was around 40-50 years back then, they would really have made the news.

 

If you can answer all of the both, without quoting from the stupid little book to prove your point then I will concede my point, but unless you can the whole thing sound like the deluded ranting of a psychophrenic.

[hugo]

Have you noticed something about all these Gospels' date=' they were all written 300-400 years after the event(s) happened. [/quote']

 

Wrong, again. If ignorance is bliss you must be a very happy person.

[Gallytuck]

What's even better is the version of Christianity we currently have to watch those dipshits "practice" is of the Pauline tradition. He never met Christ.

[attention_whore]

Has anyone really examined how certain books were put in the Bible and others were left out? Pretty arbitrary if you ask me and probably because the people who were responsible had an agenda of their own to push.

 

Its my understanding that there were 30 gospels similar to these four and somehow they got weeded out in favor of these four...WHY? You might well ask...some idiot back there must know the answer to that question.

 

I am wondering why the Gospel of Mary was left out. My theory was that it was because she was a woman. It doesn't seem to matter that she was the favourite of Jesus. In the building of this new crappy business/religion it seems to me that there was to be no place for women in the management.

[jokersarewild]

I am wondering why the Gospel of Mary was left out. My theory was that it was because she was a woman. It doesn't seem to matter that she was the favourite of Jesus. In the building of this new crappy business/religion it seems to me that there was to be no place for women in the management.

 

This is done not only with that gospel, but others dealing with woman. The Gospel of Philip says that Mary Magdeline was married to Jesus. The church couldn't have that now, could they? Someone that is thought of as a whore? No, they got rid of it because it would horribly set back their agenda if they were to let people see that Jesus wanted woman in the church.

[hugo]

The Council of Niceae was guided by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit don't fuck up.

[Quarky1.0]

Wrong, again. If ignorance is bliss you must be a very happy person.

 

 

No this has been scientifically proven using carbon dating, linguistic dating and ink dating, using the first known copies of the gospels and before you say the first know copies? It has been proven that for 300 years there was no record of the gospels even existing. So yet again you have proven yourself to be the ignorant one. But then again GM and destroying the natural world is a good call according to the Gospel of Hugo a gogo.