Guest Ed Conrad Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 < ATTENTION: DAVID IAIN GREIG MODERATOR, TALK.ORIGINS < Maybe you should read your own charter. I think it's time YOU played by talk.origins' own rules. < All you have allowed in talk.origins for years is evolution propaganda. Anyone possessing the physical evidence that evolution is bullcrap -- or has argued that evolution is nothing more than a pipedream and couldn't possibly have occurred -- is promptly and rather rudely shown the door. < ============================================ < For example, Dale Kelly posted this on July 6, 2007... < David Iain Greig, the moderator of talk.origins, has recently went on a rampage about my posts. He has claimed they were off-topic. All of my posts have an implication on origins. < The charter of talk.origins says speech will only be limited by a cross-posting limit (4). < David has gone beyond the charter and begun to set arbitrary and unspecified limits on topic, this amounts to CONTENT CENSORSHIP. < I don't agree with CONTENT CENSORSHIP and doubt many people do. < David, if you wish to make content decisions, you should at least specify what those decisions are, instead of making them arbitrary and only based on your whims. You should go through the RFD/CFV process to change the charter such that only specified topics are allowed, if you propose to set limits on topics. < There is no way I can determine what you mean by off-topic, unless you specify it. This is a convenient way for you to ban me, because your rules will be construed to exclude ANYTHING I post until you achieve your objective. < I suggest David be limited to the charter (4 crossposts), until he goes through the RFD/CFV process to change the charter. In the meantime, he should change the script that runs the moderation bot, and remove all his bans and exceptions that are NOT charter based. < Here is the charter http://www.ediacara.org/~to/charter.html < LET'S READ IT AGAIN, WITH EMPHASIS WHERE IT BELONGS < CHARTER: talk.origins < No copy of the original charter of talk.origins is currently available. (Apparently a formal charter was never issued.) < The newsgroup talk.origins is meant as a venue for discussion of the scientific, religious, and political issues pertaining to various theories of the origins and development of life and the universe. < Within such basic guidelines, wide-ranging discussions over a large number of topics are covered, all relating back to the main purpose of the group. < Given the sometimes contentious nature of such discussions A MODERTION POLICY HAS BEEN SELECTED TO PERMIT NRESTRICTED DISCUSSIONS, BUT TO LIMIT CROSSPOSTING TO/FROM TALK.ORIGINS. < No cross posts to more than three other groups are permitted. NO CONTENT-BSED CONSIDERATIONS ARE TO BE MADE IN EVALUATING ARTICLES FOR THE GROUP, ONLY THE NUMBER OF GROUPS OSTED TO. < Any article submitted to talk.origins that is posted to greater than four (4) newsgroups in either the Newsgroups: or Followup-To: headers shall be returned to the sender with an explanation of the cross post policy of the group. No alteration of either the Newsgroups: or Followup-To: header is to be performed; either a post passes the crosspost-limit or is rejected. Articles received my the moderator will be examined to check if there are other moderated newsgroups listed in the Newsgroups: line. Should there be another moderated newsgroup so listed, the article will be forwarded to the moderator of the other newsgroup for approval. < Should all other moderated newsgroups listed in the Newsgroups: line already have been approved, then the moderator shall post the article, if it passes the moderation guidelines. < If the article does not pass the moderation guidelines, it should be sent back to one of the moderators of the other newsgroups, stating why the article has been rejected. The article should also be returned to the original poster where practicable. A copy of the scripts used for moderation is to be kept on a publicly- accessible web site for inspection, the location of which will be announced on a regular basis on the newsgroup. The moderator is permitted to cancel any unapproved posting to the newsgroup, if (AND ONLY IF) the posting violates the crosspost-limitation guidelines. < To specifically allow posting of relevant RFDs and CFVs, articles with prior approval by the moderators of news.announce.newgroups and .answers will be approved for posting, even where they violate the cross-post moderation guidelines. Cancellation, by third parties, of articles containing binary data (bincancels) and posts that are considered 'spam' (spamcancels) or excessive crossposting (ECPcancels) IS NOT PROHIBITED BY THIS CHARTER, even where the post to be cancelled has been approved by the moderator of talk.origins. Six (6) months after such time as the moderation policy given above shall come into effect (by public declaration of the moderator of talk.origins on talk.origins and news.groups), a revote on the moderation status of talk.origins is to be conducted by a neutral vote-taker in the manner of a normal RFD/CFV. < Note that this revote does not depend on the wishes of the moderator of either talk.origins or any other newsgroup. Should the proposal to unmoderate the group pass, the group should revert to unmoderated status as soon thereafter is practicable. < Should either the moderator of talk.origins or any other newsgroup refuse to permit or conduct the revote so as to prevent it from taking place, then the revote shall be assumed to have passed, and the newsgroup shall immediately revert to an unmoderated status. (Once the revote has been conducted and the results are final, this paragraph shall be of no further effect and may be removed from the charter.) < ================================ < http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/FOSSILS/manasoldemboss.gif < < TRUTH VS. 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Guest Mike Stevens Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Ed Conrad wrote: > < > ATTENTION: > DAVID IAIN GREIG > MODERATOR, TALK.ORIGINS > < > Maybe you should read your own charter. I think it's time YOU > played by talk.origins' own rules. I wonder why Ed saw fit to cross-post this to four different newsgroups, none of which is the one he's complaining about. I don't know whether his accusation is well-founded or not, but I'm not really interested in the internal arguments of a newsgroup I don't subscribe to - and I guess that goes for most of the readers in the groups he's sent it to. Quote
Guest John Wilkins Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Mike Stevens <michael.stevens@which.net> wrote: > Ed Conrad wrote: > > < > > ATTENTION: > > DAVID IAIN GREIG > > MODERATOR, TALK.ORIGINS > > < > > Maybe you should read your own charter. I think it's time YOU > > played by talk.origins' own rules. > > I wonder why Ed saw fit to cross-post this to four different newsgroups, > none of which is the one he's complaining about. I don't know whether his > accusation is well-founded or not, but I'm not really interested in the > internal arguments of a newsgroup I don't subscribe to - and I guess that > goes for most of the readers in the groups he's sent it to. It should also be noted that talk.origins doesn't have a foundation charter - it has a moderation charter only. And the moderator is working within its boundaries. -- John S. Wilkins, Postdoctoral Research Fellow, Biohumanities Project University of Queensland - Blog: scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts "He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. He was vicious." Quote
Guest J.J. O'Shea Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:58:16 -0400, Mike Stevens wrote (in article <5g154nF3ddcvhU1@mid.individual.net>): > Ed Conrad wrote: >> < >> ATTENTION: >> DAVID IAIN GREIG >> MODERATOR, TALK.ORIGINS >> < >> Maybe you should read your own charter. I think it's time YOU >> played by talk.origins' own rules. > > I wonder why Ed saw fit to cross-post this to four different newsgroups, > none of which is the one he's complaining about. I don't know whether his > accusation is well-founded or not, but I'm not really interested in the > internal arguments of a newsgroup I don't subscribe to - and I guess that > goes for most of the readers in the groups he's sent it to. > > > Because he just got banned from t.o after changing his nym twice in under 24 hours, the last time to directly poke at the moderator. He also got the moderator pissed off enough that said moderator sent a note to Ed's ISP requesting that he be ToSed. I don't think that Ed has got the point. -- email to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com. Quote
Guest John Duncan Yoyo Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:58:16 +0100, "Mike Stevens" <michael.stevens@which.net> wrote: >Ed Conrad wrote: >> < >> ATTENTION: >> DAVID IAIN GREIG >> MODERATOR, TALK.ORIGINS >> < >> Maybe you should read your own charter. I think it's time YOU >> played by talk.origins' own rules. > >I wonder why Ed saw fit to cross-post this to four different newsgroups, >none of which is the one he's complaining about. I don't know whether his >accusation is well-founded or not, but I'm not really interested in the >internal arguments of a newsgroup I don't subscribe to - and I guess that >goes for most of the readers in the groups he's sent it to. > > That's Ed's MO. He just changed the list of cross posting newsgroups. I bet the genealogy people are happy about that. -- John Duncan Yoyo ------------------------------o) Save the Cheerleader- Collect the whole set. Quote
Guest jismquiff Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Jul 16, 7:58 am, "Mike Stevens" <michael.stev...@which.net> wrote: > Ed Conrad wrote: > > < > > ATTENTION: > > DAVID IAIN GREIG > > MODERATOR, TALK.ORIGINS > > < > > Maybe you should read your own charter. I think it's time YOU > > played by talk.origins' own rules. > > I wonder why Ed saw fit to cross-post this to four different newsgroups, > none of which is the one he's complaining about. I don't know whether his > accusation is well-founded or not, but I'm not really interested in the > internal arguments of a newsgroup I don't subscribe to - and I guess that > goes for most of the readers in the groups he's sent it to. ------------- GOOGLE GROUPS IN VIOLATION ... .... of its ... violations! While allowing Obwon, Harry Hope, and a few other posters to simultaneously post up to four pages of different posts, I get cut off, like today, after ONE POST! And even after a half-hour, my stuff is not online. And Google NEVER responds to complaints about this shit! What can we do? (I'm foolishly assuming this will be posted.) ------------- Quote
Guest Richard Heathfield Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 jismquiff said: <snip> > > ------------- GOOGLE GROUPS IN VIOLATION ... > > ... of its ... violations! While allowing Obwon, Harry Hope, and a > few other posters to simultaneously post up to four pages of different > posts, I get cut off, like today, after ONE POST! And even after a > half-hour, my stuff is not online. > > And Google NEVER responds to complaints about this shit! > > What can we do? You can killfile any article emanating from Google's servers (and then mod up any Google users whom you nevertheless consider to be clueful). If Google users realise they are becoming pariahs because their abusive brethren are not being disciplined, they will either put pressure on Google to change its ways, or move to another provider. Either outcome works for the rest of us. -- Richard Heathfield <http://www.cpax.org.uk> Email: -www. +rjh@ Google users: <http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/writings/googly.php> "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Quote
Guest Harold Burton Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 In article <8olm93dc6pmrab8g7rvd6q50enmq8qgtig@4ax.com>, Ed Conrad <edconrad@verizon.net> wrote: > < > ATTENTION: > DAVID IAIN GREIG > MODERATOR, TALK.ORIGINS > < > Maybe you should read your own charter. I think it's time YOU > played by talk.origins' own rules. > < > All you have allowed in talk.origins for years is evolution > propaganda. Anyone possessing the physical evidence > that evolution is bullcrap... ....is totally imaginary, just like those possessing the physical evidence that the earth is flat. Quote
Guest CCA Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 On Jul 17, 11:13?pm, Richard Heathfield <r...@see.sig.invalid> wrote: > jismquiff said: > > ------------- GOOGLE GROUPS IN VIOLATION ... > > > ... of its ... violations! While allowing Obwon, Harry Hope, and a > > few other posters to simultaneously post up to four pages of different > > posts, I get cut off, like today, after ONE POST! And even after a > > half-hour, my stuff is not online. > > > And Google NEVER responds to complaints about this shit! > > > What can we do? > You can killfile any article emanating from Google's servers (and then > mod up any Google users whom you nevertheless consider to be clueful). Isn't the above poster saying he actually uses Google himself, though? Google have been having a spot of bother for the last couple of days, but they seem to be getting it sorted now. Nothing to go killfiling anyone about. CCA Quote
Guest Richard Heathfield Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 CCA said: > On Jul 17, 11:13?pm, Richard Heathfield <r...@see.sig.invalid> wrote: >> jismquiff said: > >> > ------------- GOOGLE GROUPS IN VIOLATION ... >> >> > ... of its ... violations! While allowing Obwon, Harry Hope, and >> > a few other posters to simultaneously post up to four pages of >> > different >> > posts, I get cut off, like today, after ONE POST! And even after >> > a half-hour, my stuff is not online. >> >> > And Google NEVER responds to complaints about this shit! >> >> > What can we do? > >> You can killfile any article emanating from Google's servers (and >> then mod up any Google users whom you nevertheless consider to be >> clueful). > > Isn't the above poster saying he actually uses Google himself, > though? Er, so? > Google have been having a spot of bother for the last couple of days, > but they seem to be getting it sorted now. Nothing to go killfiling > anyone about. Oh, my dear chap, it isn't their spot of bother that is the issue as far as I'm concerned - it's their complete and utter refusal to deal effectively with their abusive users. "Google NEVER responds to complaints..." was what caught my eye. If you want me to read /all/ the words in an article before offering an opinion, that costs extra (except on Buy-One-Opinion-Get-One-Free Mondays). -- Richard Heathfield <http://www.cpax.org.uk> Email: -www. +rjh@ Google users: <http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/writings/googly.php> "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Quote
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