Guest Patriot Games Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he Child Health Insurance Bill Faces Veto NewsMax.com Wires Monday, July 16, 2007 WASHINGTON - The Bush administration says that senior advisers would recommend the president veto Senate legislation that would substantially increase funds for children's health insurance. The legislation calls for a 61-cent increase in the federal excise tax on a pack of cigarettes. The revenue would be used to subsidize health insurance for children and some adults with incomes too high to qualify for Medicaid but not enough to afford insurance on their own. Members of the Senate Finance Committee brokered a bipartisan agreement Friday that would add $35 billion to the program over the next five years. The Bush administration had instead recommend $5 billion. The Senate legislation expands the State Children's Health Insurance Program beyond the original intent of the program, said White House Spokesman Tony Fratto. "It's clear that it will have the effect of encouraging many to drop private coverage - purchased either through their employer or with their own resources - to go on the government-subsidized program," Fratto said. "Tax increases are neither necessary nor advisable to appropriately fund SCHIP." Congress is considering renewing the program before it expires Sept. 30. When Congress approved the program in 1997, it provided $40 billion over 10 years. States use the money, along with their own dollars, to subsidize the cost of health insurance. The federal government covers about 70 percent of the cost. "Congress needs to deliver a bill the president can sign or they need to send him an extension so that people don't worry about losing their current coverage," Fratto said. "It's important that Congress understands the serious consequences of delaying this or sending the president legislation that he clearly cannot sign." Fratto also called on the Senate Finance Committee to consider the president's recommendation to tax employees on the health insurance premiums paid by their employers. The president would offset the increased taxes by giving taxpayers a deduction or credit. The result would be a tax cut for most families, but not for those with the highest-priced insurance plans. "We believe that these proposals would mean that as many as 20 million others who have no health insurance would purchase basic coverage," Fratto said. Sens. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, and Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, had called on the president Thursday to step back from veto threats of legislation that had not been finalized yet. Grassley and Hatch said they would like to consider the president's proposals to change how tax law treats health insurance. Such changes could make insurance more affordable for many families, but now is not the time, they said. "Not taking that (tax proposal) on is a missed opportunity, but it's not realistic given the lack of bipartisan support," the senators said. Grassley and Hatch were among the lawmakers that backed the agreement reached late Friday with key Democrats on the Senate Finance Committee. Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., the committee's chairman, said the proposal would lead to more than 3 million uninsured children obtaining health coverage. But others said that estimate is high because they believe some families that would sign up for the program would have already been getting their coverage through the private sector. Quote
Guest Joe S. Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he > I fixed the subject line for you. Quote
Guest Joe Steel Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net> wrote in news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com: > "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message > news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he >> > > I fixed the subject line for you. > > We can't let ideological purity be affected by a few dead children. Quote
Guest Patriot Games Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net> wrote in message news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com... > "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message > news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he > I fixed the subject line for you. Children are their parent's responsibility, not mine, not the Federal gov't. Quote
Guest John B. Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 On Jul 16, 11:13 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote: > "Joe S." <non...@nosuch.net> wrote in message > > news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com... > > > "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message > >news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > >>http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he > > I fixed the subject line for you. > > Children are their parent's responsibility, not mine, not the Federal gov't. Right. Any parent who doesn't have a medical degree has only him/ herself to blame if their kids get sick and they can't treat them. Quote
Guest Joe S. Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message news:469b8b04$0$24723$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net> wrote in message > news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com... >> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message >> news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he >> I fixed the subject line for you. > > Children are their parent's responsibility, not mine, not the Federal > gov't. > > And you are not your employer's responsibility. So, disenroll from your employer's health plan. You are not my responsibility nor are you the responsibility of my children. So take yourself out of the social security system. Report back when you'v accomplished these two tasks. Then report to the nearest recruiter's office and sign up for the war in Iran that you keep pushing for. Quote
Guest Ole redneck Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 On Jul 16, 1:07 pm, "Joe S." <non...@nosuch.net> wrote: > "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message > > news:469b8b04$0$24723$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > > > "Joe S." <non...@nosuch.net> wrote in message > >news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com... > >> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message > >>news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > >>>http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he > >> I fixed the subject line for you. > > > Children are their parent's responsibility, not mine, not the Federal > > gov't. > > And you are not your employer's responsibility. So, disenroll from your > employer's health plan. When I disenrolled you, you whined and cried then threatenend to sue me and quit.How is that new job going? I heard if you stick with it a couple more years you will be maxing out Nancy's raise. > > You are not my responsibility nor are you the responsibility of my children. > So take yourself out of the social security system. Actualy we are going one better we are ignoring your children, and spending all the SS trustfund "Eye's gots mine fuk u" > > Report back when you'v accomplished these two tasks. As dificult as it is too quit I'm on day two of the patch to ensure that if you are too cheap to take care of your own spawn, I'll just be laughing, as the worthless little shits die. > > Then report to the nearest recruiter's office and sign up for the war in > Iran that you keep pushing for. Quote
Guest AnAmericanCitizen Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:42:42 -0400, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote: > >The legislation calls for a 61-cent increase in the federal excise tax on a >pack of cigarettes. Thank God I quit smoking about ten years ago.....the price of a pack must be up to about $10 by now......AAC Quote
Guest Joe S. Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 "Ole redneck" <tnbracing@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1184619459.315656.195440@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 16, 1:07 pm, "Joe S." <non...@nosuch.net> wrote: >> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message >> >> news:469b8b04$0$24723$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> >> > "Joe S." <non...@nosuch.net> wrote in message >> >news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com... >> >> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message >> >>news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> >>>http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he >> >> I fixed the subject line for you. >> >> > Children are their parent's responsibility, not mine, not the Federal >> > gov't. >> >> And you are not your employer's responsibility. So, disenroll from your >> employer's health plan. > > When I disenrolled you, you whined and cried then threatenend to sue > me and quit.How is that new job going? I heard if you stick with it a > couple more years you will be maxing out Nancy's raise. > >> >> You are not my responsibility nor are you the responsibility of my >> children. >> So take yourself out of the social security system. > > Actualy we are going one better we are ignoring your children, and > spending all the SS trustfund "Eye's gots mine fuk u" > >> >> Report back when you'v accomplished these two tasks. > > As dificult as it is too quit I'm on day two of the patch to ensure > that if you are too cheap to take care of your own spawn, I'll just be > laughing, as the worthless little shits die. > >> >> Then report to the nearest recruiter's office and sign up for the war in >> Iran that you keep pushing for. > > Have you been drinking some of that pop-skull shit they brew up in the SW corner of Sullivan County?? That stuff is made with Omelene Sweet Dairy Feed and is aged in car batteries -- it'll kill your brain cells. Quote
Guest Patriot Games Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "Joe Steel" <JoeSteel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:Xns996F66CF7CF8Aaa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... > "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net> wrote in news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com: >> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message >> news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he >> I fixed the subject line for you. > We can't let ideological purity be affected by a few dead children. Who's children? Quote
Guest Patriot Games Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "John Bonehead." <johnb505@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1184602996.070042.250200@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 16, 11:13 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> > wrote: >> "Joe S." <non...@nosuch.net> wrote in message >> news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com... >> > "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message >> >news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> >>http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he >> > I fixed the subject line for you. >> Children are their parent's responsibility, not mine, not the Federal >> gov't. > Right. Any parent who doesn't have a medical degree has only him/ > herself to blame if their kids get sick and they can't treat them. Born an idiot or have you suffered an injury? Quote
Guest Patriot Games Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net> wrote in message news:f7gc5d01941@news3.newsguy.com... > "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message > news:469b8b04$0$24723$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net> wrote in message >> news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com... >>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message >>> news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>>> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he >>> I fixed the subject line for you. >> Children are their parent's responsibility, not mine, not the Federal >> gov't. > And you are not your employer's responsibility. No. > So, disenroll from your employer's health plan. Most empoyees can't. To get the best prices most employers have to deliver every employee to the selected health plan. > You are not my responsibility nor are you the responsibility of my > children. Correct. > So take yourself out of the social security system. Irrelevant. Do try to keep up. Quote
Guest Patriot Games Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:btpn93h78qo94dqip16jr5hv9fbht2kr6e@4ax.com... > On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:42:42 -0400, "Patriot Games" > <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> > wrote: >>The legislation calls for a 61-cent increase in the federal excise tax on >>a >>pack of cigarettes. > Thank God I quit smoking about ten years ago.....the price of a pack must > be up to > about $10 by now......AAC Alaska and New Jersey are over $6.00/pack. They're the highest. I smoke cigars, so I get the same taxes as cigarette smokers. State (only) tax per pack: Alabama $0.425 42nd Alaska $2.00 4th Arizona $2.00 4th Arkansas $0.59 38th California $0.87 29th Colorado $0.84 30th Connecticut $2.00 4th Delaware $1.15 21st DC $1.00 24th Florida $0.339 46th Georgia $0.37 43rd Hawaii $1.80 9th Idaho $0.57 39th Illinois $0.98 27th Indiana $0.995 26th Iowa $1.36 17th Kansas $0.79 32nd Kentucky $0.30 47th Louisiana $0.36 44th Maine $2.00 4th Maryland $1.00 24th Massachusetts $1.51 13th Michigan $2.00 4th Minnesota $1.493 15th Mississippi $0.18 49th Missouri $0.17 50th Montana $1.70 11th Nebraska $0.64 35th Nevada $0.80 31st New Hampshire $1.08 22nd New Jersey $2.58 1st New Mexico $0.91 28th New York $1.50 14th North Carolina $0.35 45th North Dakota $0.44 41st Ohio $1.25 19th Oklahoma $1.03 23rd Oregon $1.18 20th Pennsylvania $1.35 18th Rhode Island $2.46 2nd South Carolina $0.07 51st South Dakota $1.53 12th Tennessee $0.62 36th Texas $1.41 16th Utah $0.695 34th Vermont $1.79 10th Virginia $0.30 47th Washington $2.025 3rd West Virginia $0.55 40th Wisconsin $0.77 33rd Wyoming $0.60 37th Puerto Rico $1.23 NA Guam $1.00 NA Northern Marianas $1.75 NA http://tobaccofreekids.org/research/factsheets/pdf/0097.pdf TOP COMBINED STATE-LOCAL CIGARETTE TAX RATES (State plus County plus City) 1. Chicago ($0.68) plus Cook County ($2.00) plus Illinois ($0.98) $3.66 per pack 2. Evanston ($0.50) plus Cook County ($2.00) plus Illinois ($0.98) $3.48 per pack 3. Anchorage ($1.324) plus Alaska ($2.00) $3.324 per pack 4. Cicero ($0.16) plus Cook County ($2.00) plus Illinois ($0.98) $3.14 per pack 5. Rosemont ($0.05) plus Cook County ($2.00) plus Illinois ($0.98) $3.03 per pack 6. Barrow ($1.00, effective 7/1/08) plus Alaska ($2.00) $3.00 per pack 7. New York City ($1.50 per pack) plus New York State ($1.50) $3.00 per pack 8. Matanuska-Susitna Borough ($1.00) plus Alaska ($2.00) $3.00 per pack 9. Cities with no tax in Cook County ($2.00) plus Illinois ($0.98) $2.98 per pack 10. New Jersey ($2.575), with no local cigarette taxes $2.575 per pack 11. Rhode Island ($2.46), with no local cigarette taxes $2.46 per pack 12. Juneau ($0.30) plus Alaska ($2.00) $2.30 per pack 13. Fairbanks ($0.20) plus Alaska ($2.00) $2.20 per pack 14. Washington ($2.025), with no local cigarette taxes $2.025 per pack 15. Maine ($2.00), with no local cigarette taxes $2.00 per pack 16. Michigan ($2.00), with no local cigarette taxes $2.00 per pack 17. Arizona ($2.00), with no local cigarette taxes $2.00 per pack 18. Alaska ($2.00), excluding areas with local cigarette taxes $2.00 per pack 19. Connecticut ($2.00), with no local cigarette taxes $2.00 per pack 20. Hawaii ($1.80, effective 9/30/07), with no local cigarette taxes $1.80 per pack 21. Vermont ($1.79), with no local cigarette taxes $1.79 per pack 22. U.S. Territory Northern Marianas ($1.75), with no local cigarette taxes $1.75 per pack 23. Montana ($1.70), with no local cigarette taxes $1.70 per pack 24. Cuyahoga County ($0.345) plus Ohio ($1.25) $1.595 per pack 25. South Dakota ($1.53), with no local cigarette taxes $1.53 per pack 26. Connecticut ($1.51), with no local cigarette taxes $1.51 per pack 27. Massachusetts ($1.51), with no local cigarette taxes $1.51 per pack 28. New York ($1.50), excluding all areas with local cig. taxes $1.50 per pack 29. Minnesota ($1.493), with no local cigarette taxes $1.493 per pack 30. Texas ($1.41), with no local cigarette taxes $1.41 per pack 31. Iowa ($1.36), with no local cigarette taxes $1.36 per pack 32. Pennsylvania ($1.35), with no local cigarette taxes $1.35 per pack 33. Ohio ($1.25), other than Cuyahoga County $1.25 per pack 34. Falls Church ($0.75) plus Virginia ($0.30) $1.05 per pack http://tobaccofreekids.org/research/factsheets/pdf/0267.pdf Complete Chart showing: Cigarette Company Factory Price, Federal Cig. Tax, Distributor & Retailer Mark Ups, State Cig. Tax, State Sales Tax, Final Retail Price, Total Fed/State Taxes: http://tobaccofreekids.org/research/factsheets/pdf/0207.pdf Quote
Guest Joe Steel Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in news:469cf85a$0 $29708$4c368faf@roadrunner.com: > "Joe Steel" <JoeSteel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message > news:Xns996F66CF7CF8Aaa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... >> "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net> wrote in news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com: >>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message >>> news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>>> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he >>> I fixed the subject line for you. >> We can't let ideological purity be affected by a few dead children. > > Who's children? > > America's uninsured children who are at risk of untreated medical problems. The children Bush would kill to maintain his base. Quote
Guest Patriot Games Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 "Joe Steel" <JoeSteel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:Xns99709B9D5D556aa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... > "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in news:469cf85a$0 > $29708$4c368faf@roadrunner.com: >> "Joe Steel" <JoeSteel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message >> news:Xns996F66CF7CF8Aaa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... >>> "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net> wrote in news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com: >>>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message >>>> news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>>>> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he >>>> I fixed the subject line for you. >>> We can't let ideological purity be affected by a few dead children. >> Who's children? > America's uninsured children... America doesn't have ANY uninsured children. NOT ONE. America has citizens, who as PARENTS are responsible for THEIR CHILDREN. Quote
Guest Sid9 Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Patriot Games wrote: > "Joe Steel" <JoeSteel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message > news:Xns99709B9D5D556aa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... >> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in >> news:469cf85a$0 $29708$4c368faf@roadrunner.com: >>> "Joe Steel" <JoeSteel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message >>> news:Xns996F66CF7CF8Aaa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... >>>> "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net> wrote in >>>> news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com: >>>>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>>>>> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he >>>>> I fixed the subject line for you. >>>> We can't let ideological purity be affected by a few dead children. >>> Who's children? >> America's uninsured children... > > America doesn't have ANY uninsured children. NOT ONE. > > America has citizens, who as PARENTS are responsible for THEIR > CHILDREN. America lags behind every country in the EU. The Euro gets more valuable, the dollar loses value. We have money for a useless war but Republicans have no money for uninsured children. Republican "Family Values" Quote
Guest Patriot Games Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:AARni.95$WN1.82@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > Patriot Games wrote: >> "Joe Steel" <JoeSteel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message >> news:Xns99709B9D5D556aa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... >>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in >>> news:469cf85a$0 $29708$4c368faf@roadrunner.com: >>>> "Joe Steel" <JoeSteel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message >>>> news:Xns996F66CF7CF8Aaa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... >>>>> "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net> wrote in >>>>> news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com: >>>>>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>>>>>> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he >>>>>> I fixed the subject line for you. >>>>> We can't let ideological purity be affected by a few dead children. >>>> Who's children? >>> America's uninsured children... >> America doesn't have ANY uninsured children. NOT ONE. >> America has citizens, who as PARENTS are responsible for THEIR >> CHILDREN. > America lags behind every country in the EU. False. > We have money for a useless war but > Republicans have no money for uninsured children. Republicans don't have uninsured children. All of their children are insured. > Republican "Family Values" I see that you agree that taking good care of one's children is a priority. Quote
Guest Ole redneck Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 On Jul 20, 2:39 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote: > "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > > news:AARni.95$WN1.82@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > > > > > > > Patriot Games wrote: > >> "Joe Steel" <JoeSt...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message > >>news:Xns99709B9D5D556aa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... > >>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in > >>> news:469cf85a$0 $29708$4c368...@roadrunner.com: > >>>> "Joe Steel" <JoeSt...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:Xns996F66CF7CF8Aaa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... > >>>>> "Joe S." <non...@nosuch.net> wrote in > >>>>>news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com: > >>>>>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > >>>>>>>http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he > >>>>>> I fixed the subject line for you. > >>>>> We can't let ideological purity be affected by a few dead children. > >>>> Who's children? > >>> America's uninsured children... > >> America doesn't have ANY uninsured children. NOT ONE. > >> America has citizens, who as PARENTS are responsible for THEIR > >> CHILDREN. > > America lags behind every country in the EU. > > False. > > > We have money for a useless war but > > Republicans have no money for uninsured children. > > Republicans don't have uninsured children. All of their children are > insured. > > > Republican "Family Values" > > I see that you agree that taking good care of one's children is a priority.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Taking care of my children is important, funding you lazy cocksuckers not a priority, if a families making $ 80,000 a year and does not feel that their childrens healthcare is a a priority, then why add them to America's git mo' free shit list. Quote
Guest neoconis_ignoramus Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 On Jul 20, 12:54 pm, Ole redneck <tnbrac...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jul 20, 2:39 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > > >news:AARni.95$WN1.82@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > > > > Patriot Games wrote: > > >> "Joe Steel" <JoeSt...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message > > >>news:Xns99709B9D5D556aa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... > > >>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in > > >>> news:469cf85a$0 $29708$4c368...@roadrunner.com: > > >>>> "Joe Steel" <JoeSt...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message > > >>>>news:Xns996F66CF7CF8Aaa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... > > >>>>> "Joe S." <non...@nosuch.net> wrote in > > >>>>>news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com: > > >>>>>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message > > >>>>>>news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > > >>>>>>>http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he > > >>>>>> I fixed the subject line for you. > > >>>>> We can't let ideological purity be affected by a few dead children. > > >>>> Who's children? > > >>> America's uninsured children... > > >> America doesn't have ANY uninsured children. NOT ONE. > > >> America has citizens, who as PARENTS are responsible for THEIR > > >> CHILDREN. > > > America lags behind every country in the EU. > > > False. > > > > We have money for a useless war but > > > Republicans have no money for uninsured children. > > > Republicans don't have uninsured children. All of their children are > > insured. > > > > Republican "Family Values" > > > I see that you agree that taking good care of one's children is a priority.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Taking care of my children is important, funding you lazy cocksuckers > not a priority, if a families making $ 80,000 a year and does not feel > that their childrens healthcare is a a priority, then why add them to > America's git mo' free shit list.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Wow, you really got something against the gov't helping out the otherwise helpless kids of retard parents. In other words, punish the kids because the parent's were fuckups. See you in hell, loser. Who Would Jesus Deny Health Care? Oh, by the way, what you gonna say when you lose your janitorial services job and can't get your mouthbreathing little spawn's clubfoot fixed? Quote
Guest AnAmericanCitizen Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:54:19 -0400, "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> wrote: >"Joe Steel" <JoeSteel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message >news:Xns99709B9D5D556aa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... >> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in news:469cf85a$0 >> $29708$4c368faf@roadrunner.com: >>> "Joe Steel" <JoeSteel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message >>> news:Xns996F66CF7CF8Aaa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... >>>> "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net> wrote in news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com: >>>>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>>>>> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he >>>>> I fixed the subject line for you. >>>> We can't let ideological purity be affected by a few dead children. >>> Who's children? >> America's uninsured children... > >America doesn't have ANY uninsured children. NOT ONE. > >America has citizens, who as PARENTS are responsible for THEIR CHILDREN. > Unfortunately, America also has non-citizens who don't take responsibility for their children but put that burden on the American taxpayer.....AAC Illegal aliens are NOT necessarily coming here to work. Lou Dobbs recently reported that 33 percent of our prison population is now comprised of non-citizens. Plus, 36 to 42 percent of illegal aliens are on welfare. So, for a good proportion of these people, the American dream is crime and welfare, not coming here to work....Maggott Quote
Guest Ole redneck Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 On Jul 20, 5:05 pm, neoconis_ignoramus <bellamac...@verizon.net> wrote: > On Jul 20, 12:54 pm, Ole redneck <tnbrac...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 20, 2:39 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote: > > > > "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > > > >news:AARni.95$WN1.82@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > > > > > Patriot Games wrote: > > > >> "Joe Steel" <JoeSt...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message > > > >>news:Xns99709B9D5D556aa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... > > > >>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in > > > >>> news:469cf85a$0 $29708$4c368...@roadrunner.com: > > > >>>> "Joe Steel" <JoeSt...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message > > > >>>>news:Xns996F66CF7CF8Aaa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... > > > >>>>> "Joe S." <non...@nosuch.net> wrote in > > > >>>>>news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com: > > > >>>>>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message > > > >>>>>>news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > > > >>>>>>>http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he > > > >>>>>> I fixed the subject line for you. > > > >>>>> We can't let ideological purity be affected by a few dead children. > > > >>>> Who's children? > > > >>> America's uninsured children... > > > >> America doesn't have ANY uninsured children. NOT ONE. > > > >> America has citizens, who as PARENTS are responsible for THEIR > > > >> CHILDREN. > > > > America lags behind every country in the EU. > > > > False. > > > > > We have money for a useless war but > > > > Republicans have no money for uninsured children. > > > > Republicans don't have uninsured children. All of their children are > > > insured. > > > > > Republican "Family Values" > > > > I see that you agree that taking good care of one's children is a priority.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Taking care of my children is important, funding you lazy cocksuckers > > not a priority, if a families making $ 80,000 a year and does not feel > > that their children's health care is a a priority, then why add them to > > America's git mo' free shit list.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Wow, you really got something against the gov't helping out the > otherwise helpless kids of retard parents. In other words, punish the > kids because the parent's were fuckups. See you in hell, loser. The government is not helping out, they are replacing the parent in health care, preschool and education. you of course can not see where that could become problematic. > > Who Would Jesus Deny Health Care? When Jesus pays my taxes I will worry about what he thinks, until then he can STFU too. > > Oh, by the way, what you gonna say when you lose your janitorial > services job and can't get your mouthbreathing little spawn's clubfoot fixed? It is interesting that you mentioned clubfoot as my youngest sister suffered form the malady, my father had purchased health insurance through his company several years prior to her birth and you know what Blue Cross Blue Shield paid for her treatment surgery, braces and physical therapy...amazing! purchasing employer health insurance plans work. - Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Quote
Guest Sid9 Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 AnAmericanCitizen wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:54:19 -0400, "Patriot Games" > <Patriot@America.com> wrote: > >> "Joe Steel" <JoeSteel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message >> news:Xns99709B9D5D556aa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... >>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in >>> news:469cf85a$0 $29708$4c368faf@roadrunner.com: >>>> "Joe Steel" <JoeSteel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message >>>> news:Xns996F66CF7CF8Aaa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... >>>>> "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net> wrote in >>>>> news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com: >>>>>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>>>>>> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he >>>>>> I fixed the subject line for you. >>>>> We can't let ideological purity be affected by a few dead >>>>> children. >>>> Who's children? >>> America's uninsured children... >> >> America doesn't have ANY uninsured children. NOT ONE. >> >> America has citizens, who as PARENTS are responsible for THEIR >> CHILDREN. >> > Unfortunately, America also has non-citizens who don't take > responsibility for their children but put that burden on the American > taxpayer.....AAC > > > > Illegal aliens are NOT necessarily coming here to work. Lou Dobbs > recently reported that 33 percent of our prison population is now > comprised of non-citizens. Plus, 36 to 42 percent of illegal aliens > are > on welfare. So, for a good proportion of these people, the American > dream is crime and welfare, not coming here to work....Maggott Most people who are uninsured or underinsured have their tab picked by the government. We taxpayers already pay for universal health care but we are inefficient at it. It can be done better. Quote
Guest robw Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 Prove that "all of their children are insured." "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> wrote in message news:46a10f70$0$32549$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > news:AARni.95$WN1.82@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > > Patriot Games wrote: > >> "Joe Steel" <JoeSteel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message > >> news:Xns99709B9D5D556aa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... > >>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in > >>> news:469cf85a$0 $29708$4c368faf@roadrunner.com: > >>>> "Joe Steel" <JoeSteel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message > >>>> news:Xns996F66CF7CF8Aaa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... > >>>>> "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net> wrote in > >>>>> news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com: > >>>>>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message > >>>>>> news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > >>>>>>> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he > >>>>>> I fixed the subject line for you. > >>>>> We can't let ideological purity be affected by a few dead children. > >>>> Who's children? > >>> America's uninsured children... > >> America doesn't have ANY uninsured children. NOT ONE. > >> America has citizens, who as PARENTS are responsible for THEIR > >> CHILDREN. > > America lags behind every country in the EU. > > False. > > > We have money for a useless war but > > Republicans have no money for uninsured children. > > Republicans don't have uninsured children. All of their children are > insured. > > > Republican "Family Values" > > I see that you agree that taking good care of one's children is a priority. > Quote
Guest Patriot Games Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 "Ole redneck" <tnbracing@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1184961271.453019.48500@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 20, 2:39 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote: >> "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message >> news:AARni.95$WN1.82@bignews2.bellsouth.net... >> > Patriot Games wrote: >> >> "Joe Steel" <JoeSt...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message >> >>news:Xns99709B9D5D556aa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... >> >>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in >> >>> news:469cf85a$0 $29708$4c368...@roadrunner.com: >> >>>> "Joe Steel" <JoeSt...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message >> >>>>news:Xns996F66CF7CF8Aaa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... >> >>>>> "Joe S." <non...@nosuch.net> wrote in >> >>>>>news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com: >> >>>>>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message >> >>>>>>news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> >>>>>>>http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he >> >>>>>> I fixed the subject line for you. >> >>>>> We can't let ideological purity be affected by a few dead children. >> >>>> Who's children? >> >>> America's uninsured children... >> >> America doesn't have ANY uninsured children. NOT ONE. >> >> America has citizens, who as PARENTS are responsible for THEIR >> >> CHILDREN. >> > America lags behind every country in the EU. >> False. >> > We have money for a useless war but >> > Republicans have no money for uninsured children. >> Republicans don't have uninsured children. All of their children are >> insured. >> > Republican "Family Values" >> I see that you agree that taking good care of one's children is a >> priority. > Taking care of my children is important, funding you lazy cocksuckers > not a priority, You're not funding me or mine. Not ONE penny. > if a families making $ 80,000 a year and does not feel > that their childrens healthcare is a a priority, then why add them to > America's git mo' free shit list. We shouldn't. Quote
Guest Patriot Games Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 "neoconis_ignoramus" <bellamacina@verizon.net> wrote in message news:1184969157.413720.100000@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 20, 12:54 pm, Ole redneck <tnbrac...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> On Jul 20, 2:39 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote: >> > "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message >> >news:AARni.95$WN1.82@bignews2.bellsouth.net... >> > > Patriot Games wrote: >> > >> "Joe Steel" <JoeSt...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message >> > >>news:Xns99709B9D5D556aa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... >> > >>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in >> > >>> news:469cf85a$0 $29708$4c368...@roadrunner.com: >> > >>>> "Joe Steel" <JoeSt...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message >> > >>>>news:Xns996F66CF7CF8Aaa10021highstreamnet@216.168.3.50... >> > >>>>> "Joe S." <non...@nosuch.net> wrote in >> > >>>>>news:f7fmqe0lnt@news3.newsguy.com: >> > >>>>>> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message >> > >>>>>>news:469b59c5$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> > >>>>>>>http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/15/154225.shtml?s=he >> > >>>>>> I fixed the subject line for you. >> > >>>>> We can't let ideological purity be affected by a few dead >> > >>>>> children. >> > >>>> Who's children? >> > >>> America's uninsured children... >> > >> America doesn't have ANY uninsured children. NOT ONE. >> > >> America has citizens, who as PARENTS are responsible for THEIR >> > >> CHILDREN. >> > > America lags behind every country in the EU. >> > False. >> > > We have money for a useless war but >> > > Republicans have no money for uninsured children. >> > Republicans don't have uninsured children. All of their children are >> > insured. >> > > Republican "Family Values" >> > I see that you agree that taking good care of one's children is a >> > priority. >> Taking care of my children is important, funding you lazy cocksuckers >> not a priority, if a families making $ 80,000 a year and does not feel >> that their childrens healthcare is a a priority, then why add them to >> America's git mo' free shit list. > Wow, you really got something against the gov't helping out the > otherwise helpless kids of retard parents. Are retards allow to procreate? > In other words, punish the > kids because the parent's were fuckups. No, in other words the children are the responsibility of their parents, PERIOD. Until that responsibility is LEGALLY removed. > Who Would Jesus Deny Health Care? Probably you, for messing with His Name to support your anti-American Socialism. Quote
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