Guest Sid9 Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Michael Ejercito wrote: > On Jul 16, 2:09 pm, "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> Michael Ejercito wrote: >>> On Jul 16, 1:25 pm, "Lamont Cranston" >>> <Lamont.Crans...@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote: >>>> "Michael Ejercito" <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >>>> news:1184603686.599318.265940@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >> >>>>> On Jul 16, 6:14 am, "??????????" <???????????@???????????.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> 'Sicko' leaves top Democrats ill at >>>>>> easehttp://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-movie22jun22,0,5... >> >>>>>> Leading candidates are sidestepping direct comment on filmmaker >>>>>> Michael >>>>>> Moore's proposals for universal healthcare. >>>>>> By Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar, Times Staff Writer >>>>>> June 22, 2007 >>>>>> WASHINGTON - With the release of Michael Moore's "Sicko," a movie >>>>>> once again >>>>>> is adding sizzle to an issue that's a high priority for liberal >>>>>> politicians - this time comprehensive health insurance for all. >>>>>> But unlike >>>>>> Al Gore's film on global warming, which helped rally support on >>>>>> an equally >>>>>> controversial problem, "Sicko" is creating an awkward situation >>>>>> for the >>>>>> leading Democratic presidential candidates. >> >>>>>> Rejecting Moore's prescription on healthcare could alienate >>>>>> liberal activists, who will play a big role in choosing the >>>>>> party's next standard-bearer. However, his proposal - wiping out >>>>>> private health insurance >>>>>> and replacing it with a massive federal program - could be >>>>>> political poison >>>>>> with the larger electorate. >>>>> Somehow, the concept of a state or federal program COMPETING >>>>> with private health insurance NEVER occurs to these people. >> >>>> Medicare has been immensely successful without having to compete >>>> with private health insurance. >>> So what would be wrong with making Medicare voluntary, available >>> to all ages, and funded entirely by those who choose to participate? >> >>> Michael >> >> Do you really believe that >> people who opt out of >> having universal insurance >> will not sooner or later >> use health system resources? > Of course. > > If they were wise, those who opt out of having universal insurance > would select a private insurer who could deliver better service. > > If NOT.... >> >> Universal mean everyone >> is covered. >> >> It may mean that every one >> pays...as they do in Medicare. >> >> What does an insurance >> company contribute? >> > So let the government (local, state, or federal) start an insurance > company and get funding from those who choose to get insurance from > them. > > > Michael It will, two ways. 1. From premiums (some will pay more, the poorest will pay nothing) 2. From taxes if there's a shortfall. It's called a "singler payer universal health care system" Many countries have variations... we can pick the best of what already is proven to work Quote
Guest Michael Ejercito Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Jul 16, 2:09 pm, "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Michael Ejercito wrote: > > On Jul 16, 1:25 pm, "Lamont Cranston" > > <Lamont.Crans...@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote: > >> "Michael Ejercito" <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > >>news:1184603686.599318.265940@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > > >>> On Jul 16, 6:14 am, "??????????" <???????????@???????????.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> 'Sicko' leaves top Democrats ill at > >>>> easehttp://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-movie22jun22,0,5... > > >>>> Leading candidates are sidestepping direct comment on filmmaker > >>>> Michael > >>>> Moore's proposals for universal healthcare. > >>>> By Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar, Times Staff Writer > >>>> June 22, 2007 > >>>> WASHINGTON - With the release of Michael Moore's "Sicko," a movie > >>>> once again > >>>> is adding sizzle to an issue that's a high priority for liberal > >>>> politicians - this time comprehensive health insurance for all. But > >>>> unlike > >>>> Al Gore's film on global warming, which helped rally support on an > >>>> equally > >>>> controversial problem, "Sicko" is creating an awkward situation for > >>>> the > >>>> leading Democratic presidential candidates. > > >>>> Rejecting Moore's prescription on healthcare could alienate liberal > >>>> activists, who will play a big role in choosing the party's next > >>>> standard-bearer. However, his proposal - wiping out private health > >>>> insurance > >>>> and replacing it with a massive federal program - could be > >>>> political poison > >>>> with the larger electorate. > >>> Somehow, the concept of a state or federal program COMPETING with > >>> private health insurance NEVER occurs to these people. > > >> Medicare has been immensely successful without having to compete with > >> private health insurance. > > So what would be wrong with making Medicare voluntary, available to > > all ages, and funded entirely by those who choose to participate? > > > Michael > > Do you really believe that > people who opt out of > having universal insurance > will not sooner or later > use health system resources? So, what is your problem with people opting out of universal insurance? Michael Quote
Guest Al E. Gator Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "James McGill" <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote in message news:f7g008$cv0$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu... > Sid9 wrote: >> Anyone with $65 can do that...unless they >> need to pay their rent and they are living >> from paycheck to paycheck with two >> wage earners in the family > > If you have two wage earners in the family and you don't have so much as a > $100 buffer for something like a doctor visit, I'd suggest that your > problems began long before you got sick. Either you have made poor > choices, or you have had other misfortunes. Either way, this is not a > valid argument on the cost of healthcare. why because an ignorant ass like you says so ?, an Arizona hillbilly, no wonder, why don't you get some education goober Quote
Guest Al E. Gator Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "Steve" <stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote in message news:5i1n93lr8r57lafnpo899leb9e374ni3j9@4ax.com... > On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:39:23 -0700, James McGill > <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote: > >>Sid9 wrote: >>> Anyone with $65 can do that...unless they >>> need to pay their rent and they are living >>> from paycheck to paycheck with two >>> wage earners in the family >> >>If you have two wage earners in the family and you don't have so much as >>a $100 buffer for something like a doctor visit, I'd suggest that your >>problems began long before you got sick. Either you have made poor >>choices, or you have had other misfortunes. Either way, this is not a >>valid argument on the cost of healthcare. > > > You don't expect the leftists to stop demanding that the responsible > people pay the bills for the irresponsible ones, do you? another ignorant hillbilly with the typical laundered brain, why don't you losers, failures, and other assorted hillbilly fuckups pick up the tab for your Iraq fuckup, your Afghanistan fuckup, your New Orleans fuckup. your 9/11 fuckup, your illegal alien fuckup, we responsible liberals are tired of paying for you ignorant, incompetent hillbillies' fuckups gomer, and why is your sissy ass not in iraq gomer,? are you the typical gutless, yellow, pot bellied, fat ass, whining cry bay conservative sissy ? well, are you Boy ? Quote
Guest Al E. Gator Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "Steve" <stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote in message news:c6sn93dks4fdbn3thiv5mrkmhu9qmhe275@4ax.com... > On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:31:46 -0400, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >>Steve wrote: >>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:39:23 -0700, James McGill >>> <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote: > > Nothing fallacious about it... look now how the leftists want to > increase the amount of money rich people pay into social security we just want them to pay their share, the same percentage of their income that everyone else pays, why do you care how much the rich pay goober Quote
Guest Al E. Gator Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "Steve" <stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote in message news:arun93tts7kd94q0ggv11sivacfaib3rji@4ax.com... > On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:53:52 -0400, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >>Steve wrote: >>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:31:46 -0400, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote: > and that demonstrates the truth of my statement above... that you > want leftists the responsible people to pay the bills for the > irresponsible ones.... what's really funny gomer is how stupid that statement is, and how totally oblivious you are to that fact here's a clue you fucking maggot, I'm paying with my hard earned $$$ to support those losing, failing, ignorant and irresponsible hillbillies who are dying daily while committing war crimes, raping teenagers and murdering their families, along with other typical criminal hillbilly actions and then I have to pay to bury the irresponsible, losing, failing, fuckups, hell let them rot where they fall, they have done nothing but irresponsibly waste my hard earned $$$$$ with their irresponsible choices, and irresponsible fuckups, and, I have no patience and no time for lazy, incompetent,irresponsible goobers who can't do the job they're getting paid for with my responsibly earned $$$$$$ Quote
Guest Al E. Gator Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "Steve" <stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote in message news:d9sn939tunt0gae06iu2pfla7fljq9lkbo@4ax.com... > On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:30:58 -0400, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> > > Most likely because they just bought a 52 inch digital TV... > you're a brainwashed ignorant, irresponsible hillbilly, also a yellow, gutless maggot, why don't you explain your absence from your bush's war goober, nothing between you and iraq but fear and air boy, and don't use that gay excuse, or boil on the ass, or other priorities Quote
Guest Al E. Gator Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpramer@msn.com> wrote in message news:1184596946.299373.316490@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 16, 8:20 am, "Taylor" <Tay...@nospam.com> wrote: >> "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message >> >> news:1yJmi.27119$3a.5287@bignews9.bellsouth.net... > Thank you. This is something people forget. > > Baldin Pramer Baldin Lee Pramer ??? That's the most hillbilly sounding name I've heard here, are you related to any of those hillbilly plantation and slave owners ?, are you losing your hair ?? Quote
Guest Steve Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:03:03 GMT, "Al E. Gator" <ho.ho@yahoo.net> wrote: > >"Steve" <stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote in message >news:arun93tts7kd94q0ggv11sivacfaib3rji@4ax.com... >> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:53:52 -0400, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >>>Steve wrote: >>>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:31:46 -0400, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> and that demonstrates the truth of my statement above... that you >> want leftists the responsible people to pay the bills for the >> irresponsible ones.... > >what's really funny gomer is how stupid that statement is, >and how totally oblivious you are to that fact > >here's a clue you fucking maggot, > >I'm paying with my hard earned $$$ to support those losing, failing, >ignorant and irresponsible >hillbillies who are dying daily while committing war crimes, raping >teenagers and murdering their families, >along with other typical criminal hillbilly actions > >and then I have to pay to bury the irresponsible, losing, failing, fuckups, > >hell let them rot where they fall, > >they have done nothing but irresponsibly waste my hard earned $$$$$ with >their irresponsible choices, >and irresponsible fuckups, > >and, > >I have no patience and no time for lazy, incompetent,irresponsible goobers >who can't >do the job they're getting paid for with my responsibly earned $$$$$$ > Then you must really really hate your parents.... just look at the miserable piece of lowlife shit they produced.... Quote
Guest Steve Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 05:57:12 GMT, "Al E. Gator" <ho.ho@yahoo.net> wrote: > >"Steve" <stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote in message >news:c6sn93dks4fdbn3thiv5mrkmhu9qmhe275@4ax.com... >> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:31:46 -0400, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >>>Steve wrote: >>>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:39:23 -0700, James McGill >>>> <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote: >> >> Nothing fallacious about it... look now how the leftists want to >> increase the amount of money rich people pay into social security > >we just want them to pay their share, the same percentage of their income >that everyone else pays, ahhh, the same percentage, huh? why should one person "contribute" more to the social security system as somebody else when both are going to get the same benefit? I suppose you want everyone to pay the same percentage of their income for everything they buy... It's like I said, all of you lowlife, welfare dregs want other people to support your irresponsible actions.... >why do you care how much the rich pay goober > Quote
Guest Steve Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:05:55 GMT, "Al E. Gator" <ho.ho@yahoo.net> wrote: > >"Steve" <stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote in message >news:d9sn939tunt0gae06iu2pfla7fljq9lkbo@4ax.com... >> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:30:58 -0400, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >>> >> >> Most likely because they just bought a 52 inch digital TV... >> >you're a brainwashed ignorant, irresponsible hillbilly, > >also a yellow, gutless maggot, > >why don't you explain your absence from your bush's war goober, nothing >between you and iraq but >fear and air boy, and don't use that gay excuse, or boil on the ass, or >other priorities > <LOL> This is what the modern leftist looks like.... Quote
Guest milt.shook@gmail.com Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Jul 17, 6:12 am, Steve <stevencan...@lefties.suk.net> wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 05:57:12 GMT, "Al E. Gator" <ho...@yahoo.net> > wrote: > > > > >"Steve" <stevencan...@lefties.suk.net> wrote in message > >news:c6sn93dks4fdbn3thiv5mrkmhu9qmhe275@4ax.com... > >> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:31:46 -0400, "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > >>>Steve wrote: > >>>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:39:23 -0700, James McGill > >>>> <jmcg...@email.arizona.edu> wrote: > > >> Nothing fallacious about it... look now how the leftists want to > >> increase the amount of money rich people pay into social security > > >we just want them to pay their share, the same percentage of their income > >that everyone else pays, > > ahhh, the same percentage, huh? why should one person "contribute" > more to the social security system as somebody else when both are > going to get the same benefit? Of course, Stevie doesn't see the converse of that; why should one person pay LESS than someone else when both will receive the same benefit? Besides, Social Security benefits more than just the individuals receiving the checks every month; why shouldn't everyone pay a fair share? It is possible to remove the cap and lower the percentage significantly; why would that not be a good thing? > > I suppose you want everyone to pay the same percentage of their income > for everything they buy... It's like I said, all of you lowlife, > welfare dregs want other people to support your irresponsible > actions.... > > >why do you care how much the rich pay goober Quote
Guest Sid9 Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Michael Ejercito wrote: > On Jul 16, 2:09 pm, "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> Michael Ejercito wrote: >>> On Jul 16, 1:25 pm, "Lamont Cranston" >>> <Lamont.Crans...@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote: >>>> "Michael Ejercito" <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >>>> news:1184603686.599318.265940@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >> >>>>> On Jul 16, 6:14 am, "??????????" <???????????@???????????.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> 'Sicko' leaves top Democrats ill at >>>>>> easehttp://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-movie22jun22,0,5... >> >>>>>> Leading candidates are sidestepping direct comment on filmmaker >>>>>> Michael >>>>>> Moore's proposals for universal healthcare. >>>>>> By Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar, Times Staff Writer >>>>>> June 22, 2007 >>>>>> WASHINGTON - With the release of Michael Moore's "Sicko," a movie >>>>>> once again >>>>>> is adding sizzle to an issue that's a high priority for liberal >>>>>> politicians - this time comprehensive health insurance for all. >>>>>> But unlike >>>>>> Al Gore's film on global warming, which helped rally support on >>>>>> an equally >>>>>> controversial problem, "Sicko" is creating an awkward situation >>>>>> for the >>>>>> leading Democratic presidential candidates. >> >>>>>> Rejecting Moore's prescription on healthcare could alienate >>>>>> liberal activists, who will play a big role in choosing the >>>>>> party's next standard-bearer. However, his proposal - wiping out >>>>>> private health insurance >>>>>> and replacing it with a massive federal program - could be >>>>>> political poison >>>>>> with the larger electorate. >>>>> Somehow, the concept of a state or federal program COMPETING >>>>> with private health insurance NEVER occurs to these people. >> >>>> Medicare has been immensely successful without having to compete >>>> with private health insurance. >>> So what would be wrong with making Medicare voluntary, available >>> to all ages, and funded entirely by those who choose to participate? >> >>> Michael >> >> Do you really believe that >> people who opt out of >> having universal insurance >> will not sooner or later >> use health system resources? > So, what is your problem with people opting out of universal > insurance? > > > Michael If they are allowed to "opt out" they will get medical care anyway. Quote
Guest Mitchell Holman Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Michael Ejercito <mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote in news:1184651347.509475.140010@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com: > On Jul 16, 2:09 pm, "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> Michael Ejercito wrote: >> > On Jul 16, 1:25 pm, "Lamont Cranston" >> > <Lamont.Crans...@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote: >> >> "Michael Ejercito" <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:1184603686.599318.265940@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >> >> >>> On Jul 16, 6:14 am, "??????????" <???????????@???????????.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> 'Sicko' leaves top Democrats ill at >> >>>> easehttp://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-movie22jun >> >>>> 22,0,5... >> >> >>>> Leading candidates are sidestepping direct comment on filmmaker >> >>>> Michael >> >>>> Moore's proposals for universal healthcare. >> >>>> By Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar, Times Staff Writer >> >>>> June 22, 2007 >> >>>> WASHINGTON - With the release of Michael Moore's "Sicko," a movie >> >>>> once again >> >>>> is adding sizzle to an issue that's a high priority for liberal >> >>>> politicians - this time comprehensive health insurance for all. >> >>>> But unlike >> >>>> Al Gore's film on global warming, which helped rally support on an >> >>>> equally >> >>>> controversial problem, "Sicko" is creating an awkward situation >> >>>> for the >> >>>> leading Democratic presidential candidates. >> >> >>>> Rejecting Moore's prescription on healthcare could alienate >> >>>> liberal activists, who will play a big role in choosing the >> >>>> party's next standard-bearer. However, his proposal - wiping out >> >>>> private health insurance >> >>>> and replacing it with a massive federal program - could be >> >>>> political poison >> >>>> with the larger electorate. >> >>> Somehow, the concept of a state or federal program COMPETING with >> >>> private health insurance NEVER occurs to these people. >> >> >> Medicare has been immensely successful without having to compete >> >> with private health insurance. >> > So what would be wrong with making Medicare voluntary, available to >> > all ages, and funded entirely by those who choose to participate? >> >> > Michael >> >> Do you really believe that >> people who opt out of >> having universal insurance >> will not sooner or later >> use health system resources? > So, what is your problem with people opting out of universal > insurance? When can we "opt out" of paying for the war? Quote
Guest krp Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "Raymond" <Bluerhymer@aol.com> wrote in message news:1184598598.422634.122860@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > The story of Cuba's health care ambitions is deliberately hidden from > the people of the United States. Is it? > The Cuban health care system is producing a population that is as > healthy as those of the world's wealthiest countries at a fraction of > the cost. Really? > Why is Cuba exporting its health care miracle to the world's poor? The US isn't? > Cubans say they offer health care to the world's poor because they > have big hearts. But what do they get in return? PROPAGANDA! > They live longer than almost anyone in Latin America. Far fewer babies > die. Almost everyone has been vaccinated, and such scourges of the > poor as parasites, TB, malaria, even HIV/AIDS are rare or non- > existent. Anyone can see a doctor, at low cost, right in the > neighborhood. So the Cuban government claims. > The Cuban health care system is producing a population that is as > healthy as those of the world's wealthiest countries at a fraction of > the cost. And now Cuba has begun exporting its system to under-served > communities around the world-including the United States. No not at a fraction of the cost - at a TERRIBLE cost. Here is the reality of that FREE HEALTHCARE in Cuba, to get that FREE stuff you must first agree to work a 60 hour week for $ 6.50 a MONTH ( not an HOUR as some ignoramuses here think), Then surrender ALL their freedom... Now take a LOOK at the REALITY of that PERFECT HEALTHCARE SYSTEM in Cuba that you fawn all over.. Look at the REALITY of FREE healthcare.. http://www.therealcuba.com/Page10.htm Will you? I bet not. Quote
Guest krp Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "Michael Ejercito" <mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1184603686.599318.265940@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >> Leading candidates are sidestepping direct comment on filmmaker Michael >> Moore's proposals for universal healthcare. >> By Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar, Times Staff Writer >> June 22, 2007 >> WASHINGTON - With the release of Michael Moore's "Sicko," a movie once >> again >> is adding sizzle to an issue that's a high priority for liberal >> politicians - this time comprehensive health insurance for all. But >> unlike >> Al Gore's film on global warming, which helped rally support on an >> equally >> controversial problem, "Sicko" is creating an awkward situation for the >> leading Democratic presidential candidates. >> >> Rejecting Moore's prescription on healthcare could alienate liberal >> activists, who will play a big role in choosing the party's next >> standard-bearer. However, his proposal - wiping out private health >> insurance >> and replacing it with a massive federal program - could be political >> poison >> with the larger electorate. > Somehow, the concept of a state or federal program COMPETING with > private health insurance NEVER occurs to these people. Sure it does, then the laughing stops. Quote
Guest Al E. Gator Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "Steve" <stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote in message news:2p4p9318sb63fdjkh63fnmi3l84be87mt1@4ax.com... > On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:05:55 GMT, "Al E. Gator" <ho.ho@yahoo.net> > wrote: > >> >>"Steve" <stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote in message >>news:d9sn939tunt0gae06iu2pfla7fljq9lkbo@4ax.com... >>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:30:58 -0400, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>> Most likely because they just bought a 52 inch digital TV... >>> >>you're a brainwashed ignorant, irresponsible hillbilly, >> >>also a yellow, gutless maggot, >> >>why don't you explain your absence from your bush's war goober, nothing >>between you and iraq but >>fear and air boy, and don't use that gay excuse, or boil on the ass, or >>other priorities >> > > > <LOL> This is what the modern leftist looks like.... exactly gomer, bitch slapping you loud mouth low class hillbillies back to the trailer parks, and like the typical yellow,gutless, sissy republican you avoided justifying your cowardice, same as bush,cheney,limbaugh,romney, etc. but it is too embarrassing to admit isn't it gomer Quote
Guest Al E. Gator Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "Steve" <stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote in message news:e34p93hl0991vn6mvle42qgplbh2nt2384@4ax.com... > On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:03:03 GMT, "Al E. Gator" <ho.ho@yahoo.net> > wrote: > >>I have no patience and no time for lazy, incompetent,irresponsible goobers >>who can't >>do the job they're getting paid for with my responsibly earned $$$$$$ >> > > Then you must really really hate your parents.... just look at the > miserable piece of lowlife shit they produced.... wow gomer, your ignorant teenage ass didn't last 1 complete day before you were overwhelmed and had to resort to the typical juvenile hillbilly shit go away goober, this is no place for children here Quote
Guest booker Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:12:35 -0400, Steve wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 05:57:12 GMT, "Al E. Gator" <ho.ho@yahoo.net> wrote: > > >>"Steve" <stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote in message >>news:c6sn93dks4fdbn3thiv5mrkmhu9qmhe275@4ax.com... >>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:31:46 -0400, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>> >>>>Steve wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:39:23 -0700, James McGill >>>>> <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Nothing fallacious about it... look now how the leftists want to >>> increase the amount of money rich people pay into social security >> >>we just want them to pay their share, the same percentage of their income >>that everyone else pays, > > ahhh, the same percentage, huh? why should one person "contribute" more > to the social security system as somebody else when both are going to get > the same benefit? Because others provided the cheap labor and paid the corporate welfare that allowed them to make all that money in the first place? > I suppose you want everyone to pay the same percentage of their income for > everything they buy... It's like I said, all of you lowlife, welfare > dregs want other people to support your irresponsible actions.... Why not? The selfish greedy conservatives have no problem making other people pay for their wars. Quote
Guest Docky Wocky Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 ali gator sez: "we responsible liberals are tired of paying for you ignorant, incompetent hillbillies' fuckups gomer, '... and why is your sissy ass not in iraq gomer,? are you the typical gutless, yellow, pot bellied, fat ass, whining cry bay conservative sissy ? well, are you Boy ?..." ____________________________ Another excellent reason to reduce welfare payments, especially over-aggressive, beered-up, non-tax-paying, wienies like this gator character. These people could be used to clear mine fields, check areas for IEDs, and carry the heavy stuff for our troops in Iraq. I sure hope he ain't mumbling shit like that and riding the elevator in some high-rise welfare tower in that condition. The resulting medical costs will have to be borne by the ever suffering taxpayer, again. Quote
Guest Steve Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:04:49 -0400, "Al E. Gator" <ho.ho@yahoo.net> wrote: > >"Steve" <stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote in message >news:e34p93hl0991vn6mvle42qgplbh2nt2384@4ax.com... >> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:03:03 GMT, "Al E. Gator" <ho.ho@yahoo.net> >> wrote: >> >>>I have no patience and no time for lazy, incompetent,irresponsible goobers >>>who can't >>>do the job they're getting paid for with my responsibly earned $$$$$$ >>> >> >> Then you must really really hate your parents.... just look at the >> miserable piece of lowlife shit they produced.... > >wow gomer, your ignorant teenage ass didn't last 1 complete day before you >were overwhelmed and had to resort >to the typical juvenile hillbilly shit Irony anyone? >go away goober, this is no place for children here > Quote
Guest Steve Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:26:44 -0500, booker <invalid@invalid.com.invalid> wrote: >On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:12:35 -0400, Steve wrote: > >> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 05:57:12 GMT, "Al E. Gator" <ho.ho@yahoo.net> wrote: >> >> >>>"Steve" <stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote in message >>>news:c6sn93dks4fdbn3thiv5mrkmhu9qmhe275@4ax.com... >>>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:31:46 -0400, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Steve wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:39:23 -0700, James McGill >>>>>> <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> Nothing fallacious about it... look now how the leftists want to >>>> increase the amount of money rich people pay into social security >>> >>>we just want them to pay their share, the same percentage of their income >>>that everyone else pays, >> >> ahhh, the same percentage, huh? why should one person "contribute" more >> to the social security system as somebody else when both are going to get >> the same benefit? > >Because others provided the cheap labor and paid the corporate welfare >that allowed them to make all that money in the first place? you have it upside down, of course... if t wasn't for the people investing their capital, the worker would be trying to live off the vegetables he grows in his garden >> I suppose you want everyone to pay the same percentage of their income for >> everything they buy... It's like I said, all of you lowlife, welfare >> dregs want other people to support your irresponsible actions.... > >Why not? The selfish greedy conservatives have no problem making other >people pay for their wars. > Well, we know that you don't even pay enough taxes to cover the government services you receive... Quote
Guest booker Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:48:57 -0400, Steve wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:26:44 -0500, booker <invalid@invalid.com.invalid> > wrote: > >>On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:12:35 -0400, Steve wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 05:57:12 GMT, "Al E. Gator" <ho.ho@yahoo.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>"Steve" <stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote in message >>>>news:c6sn93dks4fdbn3thiv5mrkmhu9qmhe275@4ax.com... >>>>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:31:46 -0400, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Steve wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:39:23 -0700, James McGill >>>>>>> <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Nothing fallacious about it... look now how the leftists want to >>>>> increase the amount of money rich people pay into social security >>>> >>>>we just want them to pay their share, the same percentage of their >>>>income that everyone else pays, >>> >>> ahhh, the same percentage, huh? why should one person "contribute" >>> more to the social security system as somebody else when both are going >>> to get the same benefit? >> >>Because others provided the cheap labor and paid the corporate welfare >>that allowed them to make all that money in the first place? > > you have it upside down, of course... if t wasn't for the people > investing their capital, the worker would be trying to live off the > vegetables he grows in his garden No, you're trying to give credit to only one half the the equation. Business couldn't exist without workers OR investment, yet you only want to credit the investors while ignoring the workers' contributions. >>> I suppose you want everyone to pay the same percentage of their income >>> for everything they buy... It's like I said, all of you lowlife, >>> welfare dregs want other people to support your irresponsible >>> actions.... >> >>Why not? The selfish greedy conservatives have no problem making other >>people pay for their wars. >> > Well, we know that you don't even pay enough taxes to cover the government > services you receive... You don't have the slightest idea what I pay the IRS or what government services I receive. Quote
Guest Steve Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:58:25 -0500, booker <invalid@invalid.com.invalid> wrote: >On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:48:57 -0400, Steve wrote: > >> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:26:44 -0500, booker <invalid@invalid.com.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:12:35 -0400, Steve wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 05:57:12 GMT, "Al E. Gator" <ho.ho@yahoo.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>"Steve" <stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote in message >>>>>news:c6sn93dks4fdbn3thiv5mrkmhu9qmhe275@4ax.com... >>>>>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:31:46 -0400, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Steve wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:39:23 -0700, James McGill >>>>>>>> <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Nothing fallacious about it... look now how the leftists want to >>>>>> increase the amount of money rich people pay into social security >>>>> >>>>>we just want them to pay their share, the same percentage of their >>>>>income that everyone else pays, >>>> >>>> ahhh, the same percentage, huh? why should one person "contribute" >>>> more to the social security system as somebody else when both are going >>>> to get the same benefit? >>> >>>Because others provided the cheap labor and paid the corporate welfare >>>that allowed them to make all that money in the first place? >> >> you have it upside down, of course... if t wasn't for the people >> investing their capital, the worker would be trying to live off the >> vegetables he grows in his garden > >No, you're trying to give credit to only one half the the equation. >Business couldn't exist without workers OR investment, yet you only want >to credit the investors while ignoring the workers' contributions. So I guess you recognize that both entities have the role to fill and neither are responsible for where the other's situation.... So now that we have that settled, I ask again, why should one person "contribute" more to the social security system as somebody else when both are going to get the same benefit? >>>> I suppose you want everyone to pay the same percentage of their income >>>> for everything they buy... It's like I said, all of you lowlife, >>>> welfare dregs want other people to support your irresponsible >>>> actions.... >>> >>>Why not? The selfish greedy conservatives have no problem making other >>>people pay for their wars. >>> >> Well, we know that you don't even pay enough taxes to cover the government >> services you receive... > >You don't have the slightest idea what I pay the IRS or what government >services I receive. Easy to figure it out... only low life dregs wallow around in the class envy slop hole where you are... Quote
Guest Dersu Uzala Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 In article <n1fq93hss41am32qqrvocqseukeedgaplo@4ax.com>, stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net says... > >On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:58:25 -0500, booker ><invalid@invalid.com.invalid> wrote: > >>On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:48:57 -0400, Steve wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:26:44 -0500, booker <invalid@invalid.com.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:12:35 -0400, Steve wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 05:57:12 GMT, "Al E. Gator" <ho.ho@yahoo.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>"Steve" <stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote in message >>>>>>news:c6sn93dks4fdbn3thiv5mrkmhu9qmhe275@4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:31:46 -0400, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Steve wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:39:23 -0700, James McGill >>>>>>>>> <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nothing fallacious about it... look now how the leftists want to >>>>>>> increase the amount of money rich people pay into social security >>>>>> >>>>>>we just want them to pay their share, the same percentage of their >>>>>>income that everyone else pays, >>>>> >>>>> ahhh, the same percentage, huh? why should one person "contribute" >>>>> more to the social security system as somebody else when both are going >>>>> to get the same benefit? >>>> >>>>Because others provided the cheap labor and paid the corporate welfare >>>>that allowed them to make all that money in the first place? >>> >>> you have it upside down, of course... if t wasn't for the people >>> investing their capital, the worker would be trying to live off the >>> vegetables he grows in his garden >> >>No, you're trying to give credit to only one half the the equation. >>Business couldn't exist without workers OR investment, yet you only want >>to credit the investors while ignoring the workers' contributions. > >So I guess you recognize that both entities have the role to fill and >neither are responsible for where the other's situation.... So now >that we have that settled, I ask again, why should one person >"contribute" more to the social security system as somebody else when >both are going to get the same benefit? > >>>>> I suppose you want everyone to pay the same percentage of their income >>>>> for everything they buy... It's like I said, all of you lowlife, >>>>> welfare dregs want other people to support your irresponsible >>>>> actions.... >>>> >>>>Why not? The selfish greedy conservatives have no problem making other >>>>people pay for their wars. >>>> >>> Well, we know that you don't even pay enough taxes to cover the government >>> services you receive... >> >>You don't have the slightest idea what I pay the IRS or what government >>services I receive. > >Easy to figure it out... only low life dregs wallow around in the >class envy slop hole where you are... The two richest men in America, Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, disagree: At a recent fundraiser for Hillary Clinton, Warren Buffett was heard suggesting tax hikes for the super rich. To the casual observer, this is puzzling because Warren Buffett is one of those super rich that would be subject to the higher tax rates of his proposal. Those who follow Warren Buffett are more familiar with his position. He is quick to offer an explanation: Quote
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