Guest Gandalf Grey Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Impeachment Countdown: Are Bush and Cheney Starting to Lose Sleep? By Dave Lindorff Created Jul 13 2007 - 9:03am Now it's Sen. Barbara Boxer. The junior senator from California on Wednesday stated publicly on national radio (the Ed Schultz Show) that in her view, impeachment of the president should be "on the table." The reference, of course, was a pointed dig at Boxer's San Francisco neighbor, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who over a year ago announced that if Democrats were to regain control of the House, impeachment would not even be considered. It would, she famously vowed, be "off the table." Of course, since Pelosi made that shameful declaration, brushing aside Bush's already committed crimes against the Constitution, it has become clear that this president has been refusing to enact dozens, perhaps hundreds, of laws duly passed by the Congress, and that he has ignored the clear will of the people to have the disastrous Iraq War brought to a quick, merciful end As well, proof has mounted of presidential and vice-presidential lying to put the country at war with Iraq. Also, more recently, the vice president pushed for, and the president decided on a commutation of I. "Scooter" Libby's sentence for perjury and obstruction of justice. Beyond that, news has come of a string of political firings of U.S. Attorneys, primarily because they had not acceded to the filing of harassing election fraud lawsuits designed to help keep Democrats away from the polls. In short, evidence of outrageous administration lawlessness and abuse of power has been piling up for a year since Pelosi's statement, and during her six-month stint as Speaker, during which time she has continued not just to block impeachment bills in Congress, but to work hard behind the scenes to undermine a growing grassroots impeachment movement. Sen. Boxer's bold statement puts impeachment front and center inside the Beltway, and in the national media. It adds new weight to the bill calling for the impeachment of Dick Cheney which Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) filed in the House on April 24, and which now has 14 additional co-sponsors. We're not there yet, but thanks to a growing grassroots campaign, impeachment is being forced into public and Congressional consciousness. It is reaching a point where even the most cowardly or complicit news editors will not be able to push it aside, black it out, or deride it as a "fringe" thing. We're getting to a point where the powerful in Congress, and the pundits and opinion makers in the media, are going to have to acknowledge that impeachment is being demanded by the public, and that it is appropriate to the crimes that are being perpetrated by the White House. Speaker Pelosi's position is becoming less and less tenable, and is looking more and more shrill and even ridiculous. How, after all, can the leader of the House say that impeachment is inappropriate when the president is thumbing his nose at Congress every time they send him a bill! She and the rest of the members of Congress are well aware that if Bush doesn't like a bill, he will just sign it and then refuse to enact it, making a joke of the whole legislative process. How many other institutions can you think of where the members of that institution have stood idly by, hands in pockets, while their power and authority was trampled? Even on the grounds of simple ego, you would think that Congress would be rising up as one to put an end to such a travesty, and yet not one bill has been submitted calling for the president's impeachment. Even Kucinich's bill is limited the vice president, and to issues of war and peace, and it says nothing about abuse of power--the really serious crime of this administration. No wonder support for the Democratic Congress has tanked, falling to 23 percent in the latest poll on the subject. No wonder Pelosi herself has seen her popularity in California plunge to 39 percent. No wonder she's being threatened by peace activist and Gold Star Mother Cindy Sheehan with a challenge for her seat in 2008. But with each new member of the House who signs on to Kucinich's H Res 333 (the latest is California Democratic Rep. Sam Farr), and with each new senator who joins Barbara Boxer in standing up and calling for impeachment, it becomes easier for the next ones to follow. President Bush and Vice President Cheney have been having pretty much a free ride for six years, and have probably shared plenty of laughs at the Democratic "opposition" over the last six years as they steamrollered both them and the Constitution. But suddenly, things are turning around, and as is often the case in politics, they are turning quickly. My guess is that Bush and Cheney are starting to lose sleep, wondering if they may end up facing impeachment after all. I suspect Pelosi is starting to lose sleep too, wondering if she needs to rethink her menu. _______ -- NOTICE: This post contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been authorized by the copyright owner. I am making such material available to advance understanding of political, human rights, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues. I believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107 "A little patience and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt. But if the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake." -Thomas Jefferson Quote
Guest zzpat Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Gandalf Grey wrote: > > In short, evidence of outrageous administration lawlessness and abuse of > power has been piling up for a year since Pelosi's statement, and during her > six-month stint as Speaker, during which time she has continued not just to > block impeachment bills in Congress, but to work hard behind the scenes to > undermine a growing grassroots impeachment movement. > > Sen. Boxer's bold statement puts impeachment front and center inside the > Beltway, and in the national media. It adds new weight to the bill calling > for the impeachment of Dick Cheney which Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) filed > in the House on April 24, and which now has 14 additional co-sponsors. > Impeachment should NEVER be taken off the table. Pelosi should say she made a mistake and allow the congress move forward with its primary mission of defending the constitution against all enemies; foreign and domestic. -- Impeach Bush http://zzpat.bravehost.com Impeach Search Engine http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=012146513885108216046:rzesyut3kmm Quote
Guest zzpat Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Gandalf Grey wrote: > Impeachment Countdown: Are Bush and Cheney Starting to Lose Sleep? > > My guess is that Bush and Cheney are starting to lose sleep, wondering if > they may end up facing impeachment after all. I suspect Pelosi is starting > to lose sleep too, wondering if she needs to rethink her menu. > _______ > How many major news organizations carried the story of Boxer saying impeachment should be on the table? So far I can't find one. We still live in an era in which a thousand voices all saying the same thing is called "free speech" and a "free press." -- Impeach Bush http://zzpat.bravehost.com Impeach Search Engine http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=012146513885108216046:rzesyut3kmm Quote
Guest Barbi Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 "zzpat" <zzpatrick@gmail.com> wrote in message news:f7g6qf6p9e@enews4.newsguy.com... > Gandalf Grey wrote: >> Impeachment Countdown: Are Bush and Cheney Starting to Lose Sleep? > >> >> My guess is that Bush and Cheney are starting to lose sleep, wondering if >> they may end up facing impeachment after all. I suspect Pelosi is >> starting >> to lose sleep too, wondering if she needs to rethink her menu. >> _______ >> > > How many major news organizations carried the story of Boxer saying > impeachment should be on the table? So far I can't find one. > > We still live in an era in which a thousand voices all saying the same > thing is called "free speech" and a "free press." > Yes and bringing back the fairness doctrine will destroy free speech! Do you want to live in a country where the media is forced to do its job? If we all just listen to FOX news we won't be so worried and we will be happy. Every day in America with our great corporate media is a day spent in 1984. Quote
Guest LarsensAttack Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 zzpat wrote: > Gandalf Grey wrote: > >> Impeachment Countdown: Are Bush and Cheney Starting to Lose Sleep? > > >> >> My guess is that Bush and Cheney are starting to lose sleep, wondering if >> they may end up facing impeachment after all. I suspect Pelosi is >> starting >> to lose sleep too, wondering if she needs to rethink her menu. >> _______ >> > > How many major news organizations carried the story of Boxer saying > impeachment should be on the table? So far I can't find one. > > We still live in an era in which a thousand voices all saying the same > thing is called "free speech" and a "free press." Besides, to impeach would mean that the House would have to break with its corporate sponsors and special interests. The same ones that funded and enabled both sides of the aisle. They won't do that, because even if they lose their seats, they're promised "something". -- B3 == IMPEACH CHENEY NOW! Governments should fear their people, not vice versa. Abolish the senate - its undemocratic. 30% of Congress are NOT bought and paid for. Vote ALL incumbents out in '08 Quote
Guest zzpat Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 LarsensAttack wrote: >> >> We still live in an era in which a thousand voices all saying the same >> thing is called "free speech" and a "free press." > > Besides, to impeach would mean that the House would have to > break with its corporate sponsors and special interests. > The same ones that funded and enabled both sides of the > aisle. They won't do that, because even if they lose their > seats, they're promised "something". I disagree. The corporate owned media isn't interested in anything but profits and like all for-profit corporations they don't care how they get it. They even lie to their shareholders. Impeachment would be a great story and great stories increase ratings and high ratings increase profits. Things don't have to be true or news worthy to be news (Whitewater for example) but they do require hype. Reid is finally learning how to out-hype GOP hype and expose their hypocrisy on Iraq with his all-nighter. Next, he should introduce a bill to increase taxes to pay for the war and watch GOP senators scurry into the dark. It's possible to completely destroy Bush and the GOP. -- Impeach Bush http://zzpat.bravehost.com Impeach Search Engine http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=012146513885108216046:rzesyut3kmm Quote
Guest LarsensAttack Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 zzpat wrote: > LarsensAttack wrote: > >>> >>> We still live in an era in which a thousand voices all saying the >>> same thing is called "free speech" and a "free press." >> >> >> Besides, to impeach would mean that the House would have to >> break with its corporate sponsors and special interests. >> The same ones that funded and enabled both sides of the >> aisle. They won't do that, because even if they lose their >> seats, they're promised "something". > > > I disagree. The corporate owned media isn't interested in anything but > profits and like all for-profit corporations they don't care how they > get it. They even lie to their shareholders. Impeachment would be a > great story and great stories increase ratings and high ratings increase > profits. The big media corporates know that a GOP congress and president will do NOTHING to reform rightwing media monopolies and control of the airwaves. > > Things don't have to be true or news worthy to be news (Whitewater for > example) but they do require hype. > > Reid is finally learning how to out-hype GOP hype and expose their > hypocrisy on Iraq with his all-nighter. Next, he should introduce a bill > to increase taxes to pay for the war and watch GOP senators scurry into > the dark. > > It's possible to completely destroy Bush and the GOP. Actually, they have done it themselves. -- B3 == IMPEACH CHENEY NOW! Governments should fear their people, not vice versa. Abolish the senate - its undemocratic. 30% of Congress are NOT bought and paid for. Vote ALL incumbents out in '08 Quote
Guest Bret Cahill Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 If we impeach, they pardon each other and don't do any time. If we wait until 2009 Cheney can be put behind bars. Bret Cahill Quote
Guest A Veteran Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 In article <1184671650.106183.231260@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, Bret Cahill <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote: > If we impeach, they pardon each other and don't do any time. > > If we wait until 2009 Cheney can be put behind bars. > > > Bret Cahill but, he is already suffering. the miserable sod. Aren't you worried about his "soul"? -- when you believe the only tool you have is a hammer. All problems look like nails. Quote
Guest trippy Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 In article <469b8b50$0$9669$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com>, Gandalf Grey took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"... > Impeachment Countdown: Are Bush and Cheney Starting to Lose Sleep? I doubt it. But they might if the GOP gets more disgruntled. And the gonna lay it all on him once it implodes. I bet they'll lose lots of sleep then. > > By Dave Lindorff > Created Jul 13 2007 - 9:03am > > Now it's Sen. Barbara Boxer. > > The junior senator from California on Wednesday stated publicly on national > radio (the Ed Schultz Show) that in her view, impeachment of the president > should be "on the table." > > The reference, of course, was a pointed dig at Boxer's San Francisco > neighbor, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who over a year ago announced that if > Democrats were to regain control of the House, impeachment would not even be > considered. It would, she famously vowed, be "off the table." > > Of course, since Pelosi made that shameful declaration, brushing aside > Bush's already committed crimes against the Constitution, it has become > clear that this president has been refusing to enact dozens, perhaps > hundreds, of laws duly passed by the Congress, and that he has ignored the > clear will of the people to have the disastrous Iraq War brought to a quick, > merciful end As well, proof has mounted of presidential and > vice-presidential lying to put the country at war with Iraq. Also, more > recently, the vice president pushed for, and the president decided on a > commutation of I. "Scooter" Libby's sentence for perjury and obstruction of > justice. Beyond that, news has come of a string of political firings of U.S. > Attorneys, primarily because they had not acceded to the filing of harassing > election fraud lawsuits designed to help keep Democrats away from the polls. > > In short, evidence of outrageous administration lawlessness and abuse of > power has been piling up for a year since Pelosi's statement, and during her > six-month stint as Speaker, during which time she has continued not just to > block impeachment bills in Congress, but to work hard behind the scenes to > undermine a growing grassroots impeachment movement. > > Sen. Boxer's bold statement puts impeachment front and center inside the > Beltway, and in the national media. It adds new weight to the bill calling > for the impeachment of Dick Cheney which Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) filed > in the House on April 24, and which now has 14 additional co-sponsors. > > We're not there yet, but thanks to a growing grassroots campaign, > impeachment is being forced into public and Congressional consciousness. It > is reaching a point where even the most cowardly or complicit news editors > will not be able to push it aside, black it out, or deride it as a "fringe" > thing. > > We're getting to a point where the powerful in Congress, and the pundits and > opinion makers in the media, are going to have to acknowledge that > impeachment is being demanded by the public, and that it is appropriate to > the crimes that are being perpetrated by the White House. > > Speaker Pelosi's position is becoming less and less tenable, and is looking > more and more shrill and even ridiculous. > > How, after all, can the leader of the House say that impeachment is > inappropriate when the president is thumbing his nose at Congress every time > they send him a bill! She and the rest of the members of Congress are well > aware that if Bush doesn't like a bill, he will just sign it and then refuse > to enact it, making a joke of the whole legislative process. > > How many other institutions can you think of where the members of that > institution have stood idly by, hands in pockets, while their power and > authority was trampled? Even on the grounds of simple ego, you would think > that Congress would be rising up as one to put an end to such a travesty, > and yet not one bill has been submitted calling for the president's > impeachment. Even Kucinich's bill is limited the vice president, and to > issues of war and peace, and it says nothing about abuse of power--the > really serious crime of this administration. > > No wonder support for the Democratic Congress has tanked, falling to 23 > percent in the latest poll on the subject. No wonder Pelosi herself has seen > her popularity in California plunge to 39 percent. No wonder she's being > threatened by peace activist and Gold Star Mother Cindy Sheehan with a > challenge for her seat in 2008. > > But with each new member of the House who signs on to Kucinich's H Res 333 > (the latest is California Democratic Rep. Sam Farr), and with each new > senator who joins Barbara Boxer in standing up and calling for impeachment, > it becomes easier for the next ones to follow. > > President Bush and Vice President Cheney have been having pretty much a free > ride for six years, and have probably shared plenty of laughs at the > Democratic "opposition" over the last six years as they steamrollered both > them and the Constitution. But suddenly, things are turning around, and as > is often the case in politics, they are turning quickly. > > My guess is that Bush and Cheney are starting to lose sleep, wondering if > they may end up facing impeachment after all. I suspect Pelosi is starting > to lose sleep too, wondering if she needs to rethink her menu. > _______ > I'd like to see impeachment happen. I always wanted it. I was hoping this would happen. Yeah, the more we know, the more we want to know. That's bad for this administration because I know we aren't gonna like what we find. -- trippy mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30 sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM http://www.myspace.com/starshine_moonbeam NP: "Goldeneye" -- Tina Turner "What did I tell the kid. It's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward. It's about how much you can take, and keep moving forward. Get up." -- Sylvester Stallone "Rocky Balboa" Quote
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