Guest MaxStorm Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 The enemies of American freedom never sleep. They will come back again and again - trying to stick their poisonous "riders" in unrelated legislation...establishing thought crime laws, amnesty for millions of illegals etc until America is totally destroyed. If these traitors remain in power, America is finished! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Emergency! Hate Bill Moves Forward In Senate By Rev. Ted Pike Hoping to avoid detection from opponents in the religious right, Senators Edward Kennedy and Gordon Smith have quietly moved the federal hate crimes bill into the Senate. The Senate will vote, perhaps as early as this Tuesday on whether to include it as a "rider" on the huge federal defense bill, HR 1585. Now designated SA 2067, the new Senate hate bill is about half the length of the House version which passed the House earlier this year. But it gives its primary supporters, the Anti-Defamation League and the homosexual lobby, everything they need to end free speech in America, establishing a mammoth federal "thought crimes" bureaucracy as in Canada. Lovers of free speech may have only one day, Monday, to persuade the Senate not to include the hate bill as a rider. If you value freedom for yourself and your children you must give top priority to calling your Senator first thing Monday morning! Call (1-877) 851-6437 toll free or (202) 225-3121 toll and tell your Senator: "Please don't attach Sen. Kennedy's hate crimes bill SA 2067 to the arms bill S 1585. Hate laws have taken away free speech in Canada and many European countries. If you do vote for the hate bill, I and my friends will do our best to defeat you in the next election!" Quote
Guest Roger Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 "MaxStorm" <90835x002@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:1184608826.863241.135040@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... > > The enemies of American freedom never sleep. They will come > back again and again - trying to stick their poisonous "riders" > in unrelated legislation...establishing thought crime laws, > amnesty for millions of illegals etc until America is totally > destroyed. If these traitors remain in power, America is > finished! > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Emergency! Hate Bill Moves Forward In Senate > > By Rev. Ted Pike From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Pike Rev. Ted Pike (born Theodore Winston Pike) is an American clergyman and director of the National Prayer Network, filmmaker and author. He has produced such films as Unholy Alliance, Why the Mid-East Bleeds, and The Other Israel. Pike's work contains fierce criticism of Jews and of Israel and references to a Global Jewish conspiracy. He is also an outspoken critic of the Anti-Defamation League. Pike has stated that he was ordained as a reverend in the Methodist Church by his father. > > Hoping to avoid detection from opponents in the religious right, > Senators Edward Kennedy and Gordon Smith have quietly moved the > federal hate crimes bill into the Senate. The Senate will vote, > perhaps as early as this Tuesday on whether to include it as a "rider" > on the huge federal defense bill, HR 1585. Now designated SA 2067, the > new Senate hate bill is about half the length of the House version > which passed the House earlier this year. But it gives its primary > supporters, the Anti-Defamation League and the homosexual lobby, > everything they need to end free speech in America, establishing a > mammoth federal "thought crimes" bureaucracy as in Canada. > > Lovers of free speech may have only one day, Monday, to persuade the > Senate not to include the hate bill as a rider. If you value freedom > for yourself and your children you must give top priority to calling > your Senator first thing Monday morning! > > Call (1-877) 851-6437 toll free or (202) 225-3121 toll and tell your > Senator: "Please don't attach Sen. Kennedy's hate crimes bill SA 2067 > to the arms bill S 1585. Hate laws have taken away free speech in > Canada and many European countries. If you do vote for the hate bill, > I and my friends will do our best to defeat you in the next election!" > Quote
Guest Stuart Jackson Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 The business about "hate" is so ridiculous. "Hate" is a perfectly valid emotion, it is the opposite of love. The gov't shouldn't ban an emotion or ban words which express that emotion. That's absurd. I am a very hateful person, I am filled with hate and anger when it comes to certain issues. Who isn't? To be constantly passive is, in my opinion, pathological. I despise when people tell me, "you don't hate that person, you dislike him". I correct them and say, "I hate that person". Then they say, "you hate what that person did; you don't hate the person himself". I say, "a person is defined by his actions, thus I HATE the person who does something which angers me or which is overtly unjust, cruel, immoral, etc". I can then say, "I hate George Bush for starting this war". I wouldn't say, "I don't hate George Bush, I hate what he did". That's liberal double-speak crap. George Bush = the war in Iraq. Quote
Guest The Don Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:469bb432$0$32519$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > "MaxStorm" <90835x002@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:1184608826.863241.135040@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... >> >> The enemies of American freedom never sleep. They will come >> back again and again - trying to stick their poisonous "riders" >> in unrelated legislation...establishing thought crime laws, >> amnesty for millions of illegals etc until America is totally >> destroyed. If these traitors remain in power, America is >> finished! >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> Emergency! Hate Bill Moves Forward In Senate >> >> By Rev. Ted Pike > > From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Pike > > Rev. Ted Pike (born Theodore Winston Pike) is an American clergyman and > director of the National Prayer Network, filmmaker and author. He has > produced such films as Unholy Alliance, Why the Mid-East Bleeds, and The > Other Israel. Pike's work contains fierce criticism of Jews and of Israel > and references to a Global Jewish conspiracy. He is also an outspoken > critic of the Anti-Defamation League. > > Pike has stated that he was ordained as a reverend in the Methodist Church > by his father. > > >> >> Hoping to avoid detection from opponents in the religious right, >> Senators Edward Kennedy I guess we'll have to whack this fat slob just like we did his 2 brothers. As they say in your American baseball,"three strikes and you're out" and Gordon Smith have quietly moved the >> federal hate crimes bill into the Senate. The Senate will vote, >> perhaps as early as this Tuesday on whether to include it as a "rider" >> on the huge federal defense bill, HR 1585. Now designated SA 2067, the >> new Senate hate bill is about half the length of the House version >> which passed the House earlier this year. But it gives its primary >> supporters, the Anti-Defamation League and the homosexual lobby, >> everything they need to end free speech in America, establishing a >> mammoth federal "thought crimes" bureaucracy as in Canada. >> >> Lovers of free speech may have only one day, Monday, to persuade the >> Senate not to include the hate bill as a rider. If you value freedom >> for yourself and your children you must give top priority to calling >> your Senator first thing Monday morning! >> >> Call (1-877) 851-6437 toll free or (202) 225-3121 toll and tell your >> Senator: "Please don't attach Sen. Kennedy's hate crimes bill SA 2067 >> to the arms bill S 1585. Hate laws have taken away free speech in >> Canada and many European countries. If you do vote for the hate bill, >> I and my friends will do our best to defeat you in the next election!" >> > > Quote
Guest f. barnes Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 On Jul 16, 1:00 pm, MaxStorm <90835x...@sneakemail.com> wrote: > The enemies of American freedom never sleep. They will come > back again and again - trying to stick their poisonous "riders" > in unrelated legislation...establishing thought crime laws, > amnesty for millions of illegals etc until America is totally > destroyed. If these traitors remain in power, America is > finished! > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Emergency! Hate Bill Moves Forward In Senate > > By Rev. Ted Pike > > Hoping to avoid detection from opponents in the religious right, > Senators Edward Kennedy and Gordon Smith have quietly moved the > federal hate crimes bill into the Senate. The Senate will vote, > perhaps as early as this Tuesday on whether to include it as a "rider" > on the huge federal defense bill, HR 1585. Now designated SA 2067, the > new Senate hate bill is about half the length of the House version > which passed the House earlier this year. But it gives its primary > supporters, the Anti-Defamation League and the homosexual lobby, > everything they need to end free speech in America, establishing a > mammoth federal "thought crimes" bureaucracy as in Canada. > > Lovers of free speech may have only one day, Monday, to persuade the > Senate not to include the hate bill as a rider. If you value freedom > for yourself and your children you must give top priority to calling > your Senator first thing Monday morning! > > Call (1-877) 851-6437 toll free or (202) 225-3121 toll and tell your > Senator: "Please don't attach Sen. Kennedy's hate crimes bill SA 2067 > to the arms bill S 1585. Hate laws have taken away free speech in > Canada and many European countries. If you do vote for the hate bill, > I and my friends will do our best to defeat you in the next election!" Thank you for the alert. I just contacted my two senators about this attack on our Bill of Rights. Quote
Guest Roger Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "Stuart Jackson" <bjackson445@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1184610997.200044.68350@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > The business about "hate" is so ridiculous. "Hate" is a perfectly > valid emotion, it is the opposite of love. The gov't shouldn't ban an > emotion or ban words which express that emotion. That's absurd. > I am a very hateful person, I am filled with hate and anger when it > comes to certain issues. Who isn't? To be constantly passive is, in > my opinion, pathological. > I despise when people tell me, "you don't hate that person, you > dislike him". I correct them and say, "I hate that person". Then > they say, "you hate what that person did; you don't hate the person > himself". I say, "a person is defined by his actions, thus I HATE the > person who does something which angers me or which is overtly unjust, > cruel, immoral, etc". > I can then say, "I hate George Bush for starting this war". I > wouldn't say, "I don't hate George Bush, I hate what he did". That's > liberal double-speak crap. George Bush = the war in Iraq. Then you must also be against "attempted" murder. Quote
Guest robw Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 You're going to defeat Ted? What, right after your club team beats the Spurs?? Moron. "MaxStorm" <90835x002@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:1184608826.863241.135040@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... > > The enemies of American freedom never sleep. They will come > back again and again - trying to stick their poisonous "riders" > in unrelated legislation...establishing thought crime laws, > amnesty for millions of illegals etc until America is totally > destroyed. If these traitors remain in power, America is > finished! > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Emergency! Hate Bill Moves Forward In Senate > > By Rev. Ted Pike > > Hoping to avoid detection from opponents in the religious right, > Senators Edward Kennedy and Gordon Smith have quietly moved the > federal hate crimes bill into the Senate. The Senate will vote, > perhaps as early as this Tuesday on whether to include it as a "rider" > on the huge federal defense bill, HR 1585. Now designated SA 2067, the > new Senate hate bill is about half the length of the House version > which passed the House earlier this year. But it gives its primary > supporters, the Anti-Defamation League and the homosexual lobby, > everything they need to end free speech in America, establishing a > mammoth federal "thought crimes" bureaucracy as in Canada. > > Lovers of free speech may have only one day, Monday, to persuade the > Senate not to include the hate bill as a rider. If you value freedom > for yourself and your children you must give top priority to calling > your Senator first thing Monday morning! > > Call (1-877) 851-6437 toll free or (202) 225-3121 toll and tell your > Senator: "Please don't attach Sen. Kennedy's hate crimes bill SA 2067 > to the arms bill S 1585. Hate laws have taken away free speech in > Canada and many European countries. If you do vote for the hate bill, > I and my friends will do our best to defeat you in the next election!" > Quote
Guest strabo Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Roger wrote: > "Stuart Jackson" <bjackson445@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1184610997.200044.68350@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com... >> The business about "hate" is so ridiculous. "Hate" is a perfectly >> valid emotion, it is the opposite of love. The gov't shouldn't ban an >> emotion or ban words which express that emotion. That's absurd. >> I am a very hateful person, I am filled with hate and anger when it >> comes to certain issues. Who isn't? To be constantly passive is, in >> my opinion, pathological. >> I despise when people tell me, "you don't hate that person, you >> dislike him". I correct them and say, "I hate that person". Then >> they say, "you hate what that person did; you don't hate the person >> himself". I say, "a person is defined by his actions, thus I HATE the >> person who does something which angers me or which is overtly unjust, >> cruel, immoral, etc". >> I can then say, "I hate George Bush for starting this war". I >> wouldn't say, "I don't hate George Bush, I hate what he did". That's >> liberal double-speak crap. George Bush = the war in Iraq. > > Then you must also be against "attempted" murder. > Should we infer that you are for attempted murder? Of course we know you mean preemptive laws. You must really like Bush and the Neocons. They believe they can predict behavior. They believe that in the perfect world entire peoples should killed in order to prevent violence. Yep. I bet that when you try real hard you can even tell what people are thinking. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Quote
Guest Roger Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message news:1184651001_753@sp6iad.superfeed.net... > Roger wrote: >> "Stuart Jackson" <bjackson445@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:1184610997.200044.68350@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com... >>> The business about "hate" is so ridiculous. "Hate" is a perfectly >>> valid emotion, it is the opposite of love. The gov't shouldn't ban an >>> emotion or ban words which express that emotion. That's absurd. >>> I am a very hateful person, I am filled with hate and anger when it >>> comes to certain issues. Who isn't? To be constantly passive is, in >>> my opinion, pathological. >>> I despise when people tell me, "you don't hate that person, you >>> dislike him". I correct them and say, "I hate that person". Then >>> they say, "you hate what that person did; you don't hate the person >>> himself". I say, "a person is defined by his actions, thus I HATE the >>> person who does something which angers me or which is overtly unjust, >>> cruel, immoral, etc". >>> I can then say, "I hate George Bush for starting this war". I >>> wouldn't say, "I don't hate George Bush, I hate what he did". That's >>> liberal double-speak crap. George Bush = the war in Iraq. >> >> Then you must also be against "attempted" murder. > > Should we infer that you are for attempted murder? > > Of course we know you mean preemptive laws. Who's "we?" And you (plural) are wrong. > > You must really like Bush and the Neocons. They believe > they can predict behavior. They believe that in the > perfect world entire peoples should killed in order to > prevent violence. > > Yep. I bet that when you try real hard you can even tell > what people are thinking. > > > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet > News==---- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ > Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption > =---- Quote
Guest Gunner Asch Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 03:14:55 -0700, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote: >"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message >news:1184651001_753@sp6iad.superfeed.net... >> Roger wrote: >>> "Stuart Jackson" <bjackson445@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:1184610997.200044.68350@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com... >>>> The business about "hate" is so ridiculous. "Hate" is a perfectly >>>> valid emotion, it is the opposite of love. The gov't shouldn't ban an >>>> emotion or ban words which express that emotion. That's absurd. >>>> I am a very hateful person, I am filled with hate and anger when it >>>> comes to certain issues. Who isn't? To be constantly passive is, in >>>> my opinion, pathological. >>>> I despise when people tell me, "you don't hate that person, you >>>> dislike him". I correct them and say, "I hate that person". Then >>>> they say, "you hate what that person did; you don't hate the person >>>> himself". I say, "a person is defined by his actions, thus I HATE the >>>> person who does something which angers me or which is overtly unjust, >>>> cruel, immoral, etc". >>>> I can then say, "I hate George Bush for starting this war". I >>>> wouldn't say, "I don't hate George Bush, I hate what he did". That's >>>> liberal double-speak crap. George Bush = the war in Iraq. >>> >>> Then you must also be against "attempted" murder. >> >> Should we infer that you are for attempted murder? >> >> Of course we know you mean preemptive laws. > >Who's "we?" > >And you (plural) are wrong. > > >> I see Teddy Kennedy is trying to pass another anti-1st Amendment Hate Speech bill........ Gunner Quote
Guest Tom Sr. Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Jul 17, 6:59 am, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote: > I see Teddy Kennedy is trying to pass another anti-1st Amendment Hate > Speech bill........ If that is what you "see", you are blind. -Tom Sr. Quote
Guest f. barnes Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Jul 17, 6:24 am, "Tom Sr." <tomswif...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 17, 6:59 am, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote: > > > I see Teddy Kennedy is trying to pass another anti-1st Amendment Hate > > Speech bill........ > > If that is what you "see", you are blind. > > -Tom Sr. Does the bill abridge free speech in any way? Yes it does. Hence, it's anti-1st Amendment. In fact, it's clearly unconstitutional and if passed will be challenged and thown out in court. Quote
Guest Bert Hyman Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 fredlb@centurytel.net (f. barnes) wrote in news:1184684436.331831.59190@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com: > On Jul 17, 6:24 am, "Tom Sr." <tomswif...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Jul 17, 6:59 am, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> >> wrote: >> >> > I see Teddy Kennedy is trying to pass another anti-1st Amendment >> > Hate Speech bill........ >> >> If that is what you "see", you are blind. > > Does the bill abridge free speech in any way? Yes it does. Hence, > it's anti-1st Amendment. In fact, it's clearly unconstitutional > and if passed will be challenged and thown out in court. Nothing is "clearly unconstitutional", and you should never feel certain about the outcome of any Supreme Court challenge. Bush thought that the McCain-Feingold campaign reform laws were unconstitutional but signed them anyway, expecting the courts to cover his ass. " However, the bill does have flaws. Certain provisions present serious constitutional concerns. In particular, H.R. 2356 goes farther than I originally proposed by preventing all individuals, not just unions and corporations, from making donations to political parties in connection with Federal elections. .... I also have reservations about the constitutionality of the broad ban on issue advertising, which restrains the speech of a wide variety of groups on issues of public import in the months closest to an election. I expect that the courts will resolve these legitimate legal questions as appropriate under the law." http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020327.html -- Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com Quote
Guest Roger Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "f. barnes" <fredlb@centurytel.net> wrote in message news:1184684436.331831.59190@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 17, 6:24 am, "Tom Sr." <tomswif...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Jul 17, 6:59 am, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> > I see Teddy Kennedy is trying to pass another anti-1st Amendment Hate >> > Speech bill........ >> >> If that is what you "see", you are blind. >> >> -Tom Sr. > > Does the bill abridge free speech in any way? Yes it does. Hence, > it's anti-1st Amendment. In fact, it's clearly unconstitutional and > if passed will be challenged and thown out in court. There is no unrestrained speech. Threaten the president's life and find out how wrong you are. Quote
Guest Masculist Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Jul 16, 1:46 pm, "f. barnes" <fre...@centurytel.net> wrote: > On Jul 16, 1:00 pm, MaxStorm <90835x...@sneakemail.com> wrote: > > > > > The enemies of American freedom never sleep. They will come > > back again and again - trying to stick their poisonous "riders" > > in unrelated legislation...establishing thought crime laws, > > amnesty for millions of illegals etc until America is totally > > destroyed. If these traitors remain in power, America is > > finished! > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Emergency! Hate Bill Moves Forward In Senate > > > By Rev. Ted Pike > > > Hoping to avoid detection from opponents in the religious right, > > Senators Edward Kennedy and Gordon Smith have quietly moved the > > federal hate crimes bill into the Senate. The Senate will vote, > > perhaps as early as this Tuesday on whether to include it as a "rider" > > on the huge federal defense bill, HR 1585. Now designated SA 2067, the > > new Senate hate bill is about half the length of the House version > > which passed the House earlier this year. But it gives its primary > > supporters, the Anti-Defamation League and the homosexual lobby, > > everything they need to end free speech in America, establishing a > > mammoth federal "thought crimes" bureaucracy as in Canada. > > > Lovers of free speech may have only one day, Monday, to persuade the > > Senate not to include the hate bill as a rider. If you value freedom > > for yourself and your children you must give top priority to calling > > your Senator first thing Monday morning! > > > Call(1-877) 851-6437toll free or(202) 225-3121toll and tell your > > Senator: "Please don't attach Sen. Kennedy's hate crimes bill SA 2067 > > to the arms bill S 1585. Hate laws have taken away free speech in > > Canada and many European countries. If you do vote for the hate bill, > > I and my friends will do our best to defeat you in the next election!" > > Thank you for the alert. I just contacted my two senators about this > attack on our Bill of Rights. I'm forwarding it to my men's groups. Thanks. We here at Soc.Men know first hand how the feminists and their sugar daddies use legislation like this to end free speech. The Canadian SOW's ("Status of Women") tried that here...but this isn't Canada. Yet they tried to convince IP's that we should be suppressed internationally. The suckers mean business. Smitty Quote
Guest Marcus Aurelius Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Virtue, a requisite for the democratic republican state, requires the citizen to uphold virtue and integrity, at the expense of personal pain. This bill clearly has neither virtue nor integrity in mind but the protection of certain special interest groups from that pain that they might experience which might follow from the disclosure and/or debates with regard to their circumstances. Such being the case, rather than furthering democratic and republican values and virtue and integrity, this bill destroys the same. The same is discussed in the ancient Roman politician, Cicero, in his book, "The Good Life." Oppose the bill! Quote
Guest Gunner Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:24:01 -0700, "Tom Sr." <tomswiftsr@gmail.com> wrote: >On Jul 17, 6:59 am, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote: >> I see Teddy Kennedy is trying to pass another anti-1st Amendment Hate >> Speech bill........ > >If that is what you "see", you are blind. > > -Tom Sr. Ah! Mr Denial himself posts more drivel. Gunner This Message is guaranteed environmentally friendly Manufactured with 10% post consumer ASCII Meets all EPA regulations for clean air Using only naturally occuring fibers Use the Message with confidance. (Some settling may occure in transit.) (Best if Used before May 13, 2009) Quote
Guest Tom Sr. Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 On Jul 17, 11:00 am, "f. barnes" <fre...@centurytel.net> wrote: > Does the bill abridge free speech in any way? Yes it does. Hence, > it's anti-1st Amendment. In fact, it's clearly unconstitutional That is for the Supreme Court to decided, if it ever comes before them. > and if passed will be challenged and thown out in court. Go scream "FIRE!" in a crowd theater. Then get back to me, once you've served your time in prison. -Tom Sr. Quote
Guest Tom Sr. Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 On Jul 17, 12:30 pm, Masculist <MASCUL...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 16, 1:46 pm, "f. barnes" <fre...@centurytel.net> wrote: > > On Jul 16, 1:00 pm, MaxStorm <90835x...@sneakemail.com> wrote: > > > The enemies of American freedom never sleep. You don't sleep at night? > > > They will come > > > back again and again - Just like Neo-Nazis have in one from or another since the beginning of time. During the Middle Ages, they were called The Inquisition for example. > > > trying to stick their poisonous "riders" > > > in unrelated legislation...establishing thought crime laws, > > > amnesty for millions of illegals etc until America is totally > > > destroyed. If these traitors remain in power, America is > > > finished! > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Emergency! Hate Bill Moves Forward In Senate > > > By Rev. Ted Pike > > > Hoping to avoid detection from opponents in the religious right, > > > Senators Edward Kennedy and Gordon Smith have quietly moved the > > > federal hate crimes bill into the Senate. The Senate will vote, > > > perhaps as early as this Tuesday on whether to include it as a "rider" > > > on the huge federal defense bill, HR 1585. Now designated SA 2067, the > > > new Senate hate bill is about half the length of the House version > > > which passed the House earlier this year. But it gives its primary > > > supporters, the Anti-Defamation League and the homosexual lobby, > > > everything they need to end free speech in America, establishing a > > > mammoth federal "thought crimes" bureaucracy as in Canada. > > > Thank you for the alert. I just contacted my two senators about this > > attack on our Bill of Rights. > > I'm forwarding it to my men's groups. Thanks. We here at Soc.Men I always wonder now the hell you assholes took over and fucked over what would seem to be a newsgroup for men of all kinds, and not just those with tiny balls who are always so terrified that some woman might twisted them off and handing them back to you. > know first hand how the feminists and their sugar daddies use > legislation like this to end free speech. The Canadian SOW's ("Status > of Women") tried that here...but this isn't Canada. Yet they tried to > convince IP's that we should be suppressed internationally. The > suckers mean business. Tells you a lot about who your "friends" are, doesn't it, Maxy and Barney? I'm very glad they are NOT mine. -Tom Sr. Quote
Guest f. barnes Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 On Jul 17, 11:06 am, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote: > "f. barnes" <fre...@centurytel.net> wrote in message > > news:1184684436.331831.59190@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > > On Jul 17, 6:24 am, "Tom Sr." <tomswif...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Jul 17, 6:59 am, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote: > > >> > I see Teddy Kennedy is trying to pass another anti-1st Amendment Hate > >> > Speech bill........ > > >> If that is what you "see", you are blind. > > >> -Tom Sr. > > > Does the bill abridge free speech in any way? Yes it does. Hence, > > it's anti-1st Amendment. In fact, it's clearly unconstitutional and > > if passed will be challenged and thown out in court. > > There is no unrestrained speech. > > Threaten the president's life and find out how wrong you are. Of course you can't shout "fire" in a crowded theater or threaten the president or anyone else. That's just commonsense and has about as much to do with free speech as robbing a bank has to do with opening a checking account. However, now I can stand up in any venue and shout that I hate the president or hate anyone else, irregardless of race, creed, sexual orientation, color, religion, or foot size; and I can do so without fear of being arrested. I know this isn't covered in the bill yet, but unlike in Europe, I can with impunity claim any fallacy I care to, such as the moon is made of green cheese, Spiderman exists, or that the Holocaust never happened. Why would any one other than a dictatorial fascist want to take any of this away from us. Free speech, even if it's sometimes in poor taste, or offensive, Is what America's all about. Quote
Guest Talk-n-Dog Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 >>>> On Jul 17, 6:59 am, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>> I see Teddy Kennedy is trying to pass another anti-1st Amendment Hate >>>>> Speech bill........ Good - does it specify the word "n gger", I'm hoping they ban it from the American lexicon, but then- imagine if Kennedy were causing the arrest and imprisonment of blacks for using the very word they so vehemently despise. hypocrisy? Besides - black trash works as well as white trash has when someone wants to be non hateful. Or the old standard used by Clinton`istas "Trailer trash". -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. Quote
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