Guest Harry Hope Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2007/07/reid-to-force-senate-into-all-night.html Monday, July 16, 2007 Reid To Force Senate Into All-Night Session Tuesday Forcing his Republican colleagues to put up or shut up on the notion of an up-or-down vote, Senate Majority leader Harry Reid (D-NV) just moments ago announced that he will immediately file a cloture motion on the Reed-Levin troop redeployment bill and, if Republicans follow through with a filibuster, will place the Senate in a prolonged all-night session Tuesday to force a true continuation of debate. "Now, Republicans are using a filibuster to block us from even voting on an amendment that could bring the war to a responsible end," said Reid. "They are protecting the President rather than protecting our troops. They are denying us an up or down Quote
Guest SyVyN11 Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 so now were gonna see if Harry is the lion or the slug of the senate. Why do I have a feeling that this is gonna blow up right in Harry's face? He's gonna get Mitch-slapped again. "Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:r0vn939kl8hcjnad5ojlj1dkqmr6jnnthp@4ax.com... > > http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2007/07/reid-to-force-senate-into-all-night.html > > Monday, July 16, 2007 > > Reid To Force Senate Into All-Night Session Tuesday > > Forcing his Republican colleagues to put up or shut up on the notion > of an up-or-down vote, Senate Majority leader Harry Reid (D-NV) just > moments ago announced that he will immediately file a cloture motion > on the Reed-Levin troop redeployment bill and, if Republicans follow > through with a filibuster, will place the Senate in a prolonged > all-night session Tuesday to force a true continuation of debate. > > "Now, Republicans are using a filibuster to block us from even voting > on an amendment that could bring the war to a responsible end," said > Reid. > > "They are protecting the President rather than protecting our troops. > They are denying us an up or down - yes or no - vote on the most > important issue our country faces." > > The Reed-Levin amendment to the Department of Defense (DoD) > Authorization Bill requires George W. Bush to "commence the reduction > of the number of United States forces in Iraq not later than 120 days > after the date of the enactment of this Act" and mandates a withdrawal > of most combat forces by April 30, 2008. > > The legislation, S.AMDT.2087, has bipartisan support and is > cosponsored by Gordon Smith (R-OR), Chuck Hagel (R-NE) and Olympia > Snowe (R-ME). > > In making this move (based on my understanding of Senate rules), Reid > is invoking the provisions of Rule 22 (Precedence of Motions) of the > Standing Rules of the Senate, which provides, at the Majority Leader's > discretion, up to 30 hours of debate if a filibuster is initiated -- > as the Republicans will most certainly do, knowing that Reed-Levin may > very well have the 51 votes needed for passage. > > Sixty votes are needed to achieve cloture (end debate) and move > legislation to a full, deciding vote. > > Reid will be using the provision of Rule 22 that allows for up to 30 > hours of continuous debate once it's made clear -- in this case, by > Republicans trying to avoid an up-or-down vote on Reed-Levin -- that > there is a desire to continue debating the issue. > > In other words, the Majority Leader is saying "You want to debate? > We'll stay all night and debate." > > "I would like to inform the Republican leadership and all my > colleagues that we have no intention of backing down," said Reid this > afternoon. > > "If Republicans do not allow a vote on Levin/Reed today or tomorrow, > we will work straight through the night on Tuesday. The American > people deserve an open and honest debate on this war, and they deserve > an up or down vote on this amendment to end it." > > Reid could hold the Senate in continuous session overnight Tuesday and > into midday Wednesday unless Republicans agree to a simple-majority > vote on Reed-Levin. > > Senate Democrats will then be prepared to take to the floor and speak > all night and, if their Republican colleagues do not remain in the > chamber, invoke ongoing quorum calls and other procedural maneuvers to > force GOP members back to the Senate floor. > > With the whole specter of cots being dragged into Senate cloakrooms > and the pure theatrics involved, I'm hopeful this will shine a > white-hot spotlight on the Senate's Republican leadership and show > Americans how the GOP doesn't truly support helping troops and their > families at home or extricating them from pointless involvement in the > Iraqi civil war. > > And I'm sure more than one Democratic Senator will remind the public > that Republicans screamed at the top of their lungs last year when it > came to getting up-or-down votes on Bush's right-wing judicial > nominees, but expressing the sentiments of most Americans and > protecting America's troops gets no such treatment from them. > > Said Reid today: > > "We don't have to mark time, waiting for the President to wake up one > morning with a revelation. And we can choose that new path right now." > > ______________________________________________ > > Harry Quote
Guest Wide Eyed in Wonder Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Jul 16, 6:15 pm, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2007/07/reid-to-force-senate-into-all-n... > > Monday, July 16, 2007 > > Reid To Force Senate Into All-Night Session Tuesday > > Forcing his Republican colleagues to put up or shut up on the notion > of an up-or-down vote, Senate Majority leader Harry Reid (D-NV) just > moments ago announced that he will immediately file a cloture motion > on the Reed-Levin troop redeployment bill and, if Republicans follow > through with a filibuster, will place the Senate in a prolonged > all-night session Tuesday to force a true continuation of debate. > > "Now, Republicans are using a filibuster to block us from even voting > on an amendment that could bring the war to a responsible end," said > Reid. Before Filibusters were good when the Dems did them, but suddenly they are wrong? Ken Clifton christiansuperhero.com Quote
Guest IAAH Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote: > On Jul 16, 6:15 pm, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2007/07/reid-to-force-senate-into-all-n... >> >> Monday, July 16, 2007 >> >> Reid To Force Senate Into All-Night Session Tuesday >> >> Forcing his Republican colleagues to put up or shut up on the notion >> of an up-or-down vote, Senate Majority leader Harry Reid (D-NV) just >> moments ago announced that he will immediately file a cloture motion >> on the Reed-Levin troop redeployment bill and, if Republicans follow >> through with a filibuster, will place the Senate in a prolonged >> all-night session Tuesday to force a true continuation of debate. >> >> "Now, Republicans are using a filibuster to block us from even voting >> on an amendment that could bring the war to a responsible end," said >> Reid. > > Before Filibusters were good when the Dems did them, but suddenly they > are wrong? > It was the REPUBLICANS who were whining about how votes should be up or down when they had a majority. Now that they don't, suddenly they just looove the filibuster. Hypocrisy much? Quote
Guest It's Just Me Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Gee, you really don't know what the hell your taking about yet like all good republicans you babble on.... "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1184642045.387207.79770@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 16, 6:15 pm, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2007/07/reid-to-force-senate-into-all-n... >> >> Monday, July 16, 2007 >> >> Reid To Force Senate Into All-Night Session Tuesday >> >> Forcing his Republican colleagues to put up or shut up on the notion >> of an up-or-down vote, Senate Majority leader Harry Reid (D-NV) just >> moments ago announced that he will immediately file a cloture motion >> on the Reed-Levin troop redeployment bill and, if Republicans follow >> through with a filibuster, will place the Senate in a prolonged >> all-night session Tuesday to force a true continuation of debate. >> >> "Now, Republicans are using a filibuster to block us from even voting >> on an amendment that could bring the war to a responsible end," said >> Reid. > > Before Filibusters were good when the Dems did them, but suddenly they > are wrong? > > Ken Clifton > christiansuperhero.com > Quote
Guest God's Debris Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:45:29 GMT, "SyVyN11" <thesyvyn11@msn.com> wrote: >so now were gonna see if Harry is the lion or the slug of the senate. > >Why do I have a feeling that this is gonna blow up right in Harry's face? > Because you hate America. >He's gonna get Mitch-slapped again. >"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message >news:r0vn939kl8hcjnad5ojlj1dkqmr6jnnthp@4ax.com... >> >> http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2007/07/reid-to-force-senate-into-all-night.html >> >> Monday, July 16, 2007 >> >> Reid To Force Senate Into All-Night Session Tuesday >> >> Forcing his Republican colleagues to put up or shut up on the notion >> of an up-or-down vote, Senate Majority leader Harry Reid (D-NV) just >> moments ago announced that he will immediately file a cloture motion >> on the Reed-Levin troop redeployment bill and, if Republicans follow >> through with a filibuster, will place the Senate in a prolonged >> all-night session Tuesday to force a true continuation of debate. >> >> "Now, Republicans are using a filibuster to block us from even voting >> on an amendment that could bring the war to a responsible end," said >> Reid. >> >> "They are protecting the President rather than protecting our troops. >> They are denying us an up or down - yes or no - vote on the most >> important issue our country faces." >> >> The Reed-Levin amendment to the Department of Defense (DoD) >> Authorization Bill requires George W. Bush to "commence the reduction >> of the number of United States forces in Iraq not later than 120 days >> after the date of the enactment of this Act" and mandates a withdrawal >> of most combat forces by April 30, 2008. >> >> The legislation, S.AMDT.2087, has bipartisan support and is >> cosponsored by Gordon Smith (R-OR), Chuck Hagel (R-NE) and Olympia >> Snowe (R-ME). >> >> In making this move (based on my understanding of Senate rules), Reid >> is invoking the provisions of Rule 22 (Precedence of Motions) of the >> Standing Rules of the Senate, which provides, at the Majority Leader's >> discretion, up to 30 hours of debate if a filibuster is initiated -- >> as the Republicans will most certainly do, knowing that Reed-Levin may >> very well have the 51 votes needed for passage. >> >> Sixty votes are needed to achieve cloture (end debate) and move >> legislation to a full, deciding vote. >> >> Reid will be using the provision of Rule 22 that allows for up to 30 >> hours of continuous debate once it's made clear -- in this case, by >> Republicans trying to avoid an up-or-down vote on Reed-Levin -- that >> there is a desire to continue debating the issue. >> >> In other words, the Majority Leader is saying "You want to debate? >> We'll stay all night and debate." >> >> "I would like to inform the Republican leadership and all my >> colleagues that we have no intention of backing down," said Reid this >> afternoon. >> >> "If Republicans do not allow a vote on Levin/Reed today or tomorrow, >> we will work straight through the night on Tuesday. The American >> people deserve an open and honest debate on this war, and they deserve >> an up or down vote on this amendment to end it." >> >> Reid could hold the Senate in continuous session overnight Tuesday and >> into midday Wednesday unless Republicans agree to a simple-majority >> vote on Reed-Levin. >> >> Senate Democrats will then be prepared to take to the floor and speak >> all night and, if their Republican colleagues do not remain in the >> chamber, invoke ongoing quorum calls and other procedural maneuvers to >> force GOP members back to the Senate floor. >> >> With the whole specter of cots being dragged into Senate cloakrooms >> and the pure theatrics involved, I'm hopeful this will shine a >> white-hot spotlight on the Senate's Republican leadership and show >> Americans how the GOP doesn't truly support helping troops and their >> families at home or extricating them from pointless involvement in the >> Iraqi civil war. >> >> And I'm sure more than one Democratic Senator will remind the public >> that Republicans screamed at the top of their lungs last year when it >> came to getting up-or-down votes on Bush's right-wing judicial >> nominees, but expressing the sentiments of most Americans and >> protecting America's troops gets no such treatment from them. >> >> Said Reid today: >> >> "We don't have to mark time, waiting for the President to wake up one >> morning with a revelation. And we can choose that new path right now." >> >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Harry Quote
Guest SyVyN11 Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "God's Debris" <heaven@dead.net> wrote in message news:fuoo939gbq098751jr5ruu97106j77pfve@4ax.com... > On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:45:29 GMT, "SyVyN11" <thesyvyn11@msn.com> > wrote: > >>so now were gonna see if Harry is the lion or the slug of the senate. >> >>Why do I have a feeling that this is gonna blow up right in Harry's face? >> > > Because you hate America. waaa-waaa! > >>He's gonna get Mitch-slapped again. >>"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message >>news:r0vn939kl8hcjnad5ojlj1dkqmr6jnnthp@4ax.com... >>> >>> http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2007/07/reid-to-force-senate-into-all-night.html >>> >>> Monday, July 16, 2007 >>> >>> Reid To Force Senate Into All-Night Session Tuesday >>> >>> Forcing his Republican colleagues to put up or shut up on the notion >>> of an up-or-down vote, Senate Majority leader Harry Reid (D-NV) just >>> moments ago announced that he will immediately file a cloture motion >>> on the Reed-Levin troop redeployment bill and, if Republicans follow >>> through with a filibuster, will place the Senate in a prolonged >>> all-night session Tuesday to force a true continuation of debate. >>> >>> "Now, Republicans are using a filibuster to block us from even voting >>> on an amendment that could bring the war to a responsible end," said >>> Reid. >>> >>> "They are protecting the President rather than protecting our troops. >>> They are denying us an up or down - yes or no - vote on the most >>> important issue our country faces." >>> >>> The Reed-Levin amendment to the Department of Defense (DoD) >>> Authorization Bill requires George W. Bush to "commence the reduction >>> of the number of United States forces in Iraq not later than 120 days >>> after the date of the enactment of this Act" and mandates a withdrawal >>> of most combat forces by April 30, 2008. >>> >>> The legislation, S.AMDT.2087, has bipartisan support and is >>> cosponsored by Gordon Smith (R-OR), Chuck Hagel (R-NE) and Olympia >>> Snowe (R-ME). >>> >>> In making this move (based on my understanding of Senate rules), Reid >>> is invoking the provisions of Rule 22 (Precedence of Motions) of the >>> Standing Rules of the Senate, which provides, at the Majority Leader's >>> discretion, up to 30 hours of debate if a filibuster is initiated -- >>> as the Republicans will most certainly do, knowing that Reed-Levin may >>> very well have the 51 votes needed for passage. >>> >>> Sixty votes are needed to achieve cloture (end debate) and move >>> legislation to a full, deciding vote. >>> >>> Reid will be using the provision of Rule 22 that allows for up to 30 >>> hours of continuous debate once it's made clear -- in this case, by >>> Republicans trying to avoid an up-or-down vote on Reed-Levin -- that >>> there is a desire to continue debating the issue. >>> >>> In other words, the Majority Leader is saying "You want to debate? >>> We'll stay all night and debate." >>> >>> "I would like to inform the Republican leadership and all my >>> colleagues that we have no intention of backing down," said Reid this >>> afternoon. >>> >>> "If Republicans do not allow a vote on Levin/Reed today or tomorrow, >>> we will work straight through the night on Tuesday. The American >>> people deserve an open and honest debate on this war, and they deserve >>> an up or down vote on this amendment to end it." >>> >>> Reid could hold the Senate in continuous session overnight Tuesday and >>> into midday Wednesday unless Republicans agree to a simple-majority >>> vote on Reed-Levin. >>> >>> Senate Democrats will then be prepared to take to the floor and speak >>> all night and, if their Republican colleagues do not remain in the >>> chamber, invoke ongoing quorum calls and other procedural maneuvers to >>> force GOP members back to the Senate floor. >>> >>> With the whole specter of cots being dragged into Senate cloakrooms >>> and the pure theatrics involved, I'm hopeful this will shine a >>> white-hot spotlight on the Senate's Republican leadership and show >>> Americans how the GOP doesn't truly support helping troops and their >>> families at home or extricating them from pointless involvement in the >>> Iraqi civil war. >>> >>> And I'm sure more than one Democratic Senator will remind the public >>> that Republicans screamed at the top of their lungs last year when it >>> came to getting up-or-down votes on Bush's right-wing judicial >>> nominees, but expressing the sentiments of most Americans and >>> protecting America's troops gets no such treatment from them. >>> >>> Said Reid today: >>> >>> "We don't have to mark time, waiting for the President to wake up one >>> morning with a revelation. And we can choose that new path right now." >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> Harry Quote
Guest Lamont Cranston Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "SyVyN11" <thesyvyn11@msn.com> wrote in message news:JiUmi.8065$tj6.7155@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net... > so now were gonna see if Harry is the lion or the slug of the > senate. > > Why do I have a feeling that this is gonna blow up right in Harry's > face? Because you have yet to be right about anything. > > He's gonna get Mitch-slapped again. > "Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message > news:r0vn939kl8hcjnad5ojlj1dkqmr6jnnthp@4ax.com... >> >> http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2007/07/reid-to-force-senate-into-all-night.html >> >> Monday, July 16, 2007 >> >> Reid To Force Senate Into All-Night Session Tuesday >> >> Forcing his Republican colleagues to put up or shut up on the >> notion >> of an up-or-down vote, Senate Majority leader Harry Reid (D-NV) >> just >> moments ago announced that he will immediately file a cloture >> motion >> on the Reed-Levin troop redeployment bill and, if Republicans >> follow >> through with a filibuster, will place the Senate in a prolonged >> all-night session Tuesday to force a true continuation of debate. >> >> "Now, Republicans are using a filibuster to block us from even >> voting >> on an amendment that could bring the war to a responsible end," >> said >> Reid. >> >> "They are protecting the President rather than protecting our >> troops. >> They are denying us an up or down - yes or no - vote on the most >> important issue our country faces." >> >> The Reed-Levin amendment to the Department of Defense (DoD) >> Authorization Bill requires George W. Bush to "commence the >> reduction >> of the number of United States forces in Iraq not later than 120 >> days >> after the date of the enactment of this Act" and mandates a >> withdrawal >> of most combat forces by April 30, 2008. >> >> The legislation, S.AMDT.2087, has bipartisan support and is >> cosponsored by Gordon Smith (R-OR), Chuck Hagel (R-NE) and Olympia >> Snowe (R-ME). >> >> In making this move (based on my understanding of Senate rules), >> Reid >> is invoking the provisions of Rule 22 (Precedence of Motions) of >> the >> Standing Rules of the Senate, which provides, at the Majority >> Leader's >> discretion, up to 30 hours of debate if a filibuster is >> initiated -- >> as the Republicans will most certainly do, knowing that Reed-Levin >> may >> very well have the 51 votes needed for passage. >> >> Sixty votes are needed to achieve cloture (end debate) and move >> legislation to a full, deciding vote. >> >> Reid will be using the provision of Rule 22 that allows for up to >> 30 >> hours of continuous debate once it's made clear -- in this case, by >> Republicans trying to avoid an up-or-down vote on Reed-Levin -- >> that >> there is a desire to continue debating the issue. >> >> In other words, the Majority Leader is saying "You want to debate? >> We'll stay all night and debate." >> >> "I would like to inform the Republican leadership and all my >> colleagues that we have no intention of backing down," said Reid >> this >> afternoon. >> >> "If Republicans do not allow a vote on Levin/Reed today or >> tomorrow, >> we will work straight through the night on Tuesday. The American >> people deserve an open and honest debate on this war, and they >> deserve >> an up or down vote on this amendment to end it." >> >> Reid could hold the Senate in continuous session overnight Tuesday >> and >> into midday Wednesday unless Republicans agree to a simple-majority >> vote on Reed-Levin. >> >> Senate Democrats will then be prepared to take to the floor and >> speak >> all night and, if their Republican colleagues do not remain in the >> chamber, invoke ongoing quorum calls and other procedural maneuvers >> to >> force GOP members back to the Senate floor. >> >> With the whole specter of cots being dragged into Senate cloakrooms >> and the pure theatrics involved, I'm hopeful this will shine a >> white-hot spotlight on the Senate's Republican leadership and show >> Americans how the GOP doesn't truly support helping troops and >> their >> families at home or extricating them from pointless involvement in >> the >> Iraqi civil war. >> >> And I'm sure more than one Democratic Senator will remind the >> public >> that Republicans screamed at the top of their lungs last year when >> it >> came to getting up-or-down votes on Bush's right-wing judicial >> nominees, but expressing the sentiments of most Americans and >> protecting America's troops gets no such treatment from them. >> >> Said Reid today: >> >> "We don't have to mark time, waiting for the President to wake up >> one >> morning with a revelation. And we can choose that new path right >> now." >> >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Harry > Quote
Guest Lamont Cranston Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1184642045.387207.79770@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 16, 6:15 pm, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2007/07/reid-to-force-senate-into-all-n... >> >> Monday, July 16, 2007 >> >> Reid To Force Senate Into All-Night Session Tuesday >> >> Forcing his Republican colleagues to put up or shut up on the >> notion >> of an up-or-down vote, Senate Majority leader Harry Reid (D-NV) >> just >> moments ago announced that he will immediately file a cloture >> motion >> on the Reed-Levin troop redeployment bill and, if Republicans >> follow >> through with a filibuster, will place the Senate in a prolonged >> all-night session Tuesday to force a true continuation of debate. >> >> "Now, Republicans are using a filibuster to block us from even >> voting >> on an amendment that could bring the war to a responsible end," >> said >> Reid. > > Before Filibusters were good when the Dems did them, but suddenly > they > are wrong? When the Democrats filibustered, they were "obstructionists" and Republicans were chanting, "Up or down vote...up or down vote." Now? lol > > Ken Clifton > christiansuperhero.com > Quote
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