Guest Wide Eyed in Wonder Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 A few quotes from a few well-known Presidents that you won't read in public schools... (quotes from my book, A Nation Under God) Washington (1st President) "...it would be peculiarly improper to omit in this first official act my fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the universe, who presides in the councils of nations, and whose providential aids can supply every human defect." - Inaugural Address Adams (2nd President) "...with humble reverence, I feel it to be my duty to add, if a veneration for the religion of a people who profess and call themselves Christian, and a fixed resolution to consider a decent respect for Christianity among the best recommendations for the public service..." - Inaugural Address Jefferson (3rd President) "...and may that Infinite Power which rules the destinies of the universe lead our councils to what is best, and give them a favorable issue for your peace and prosperity." - Inaugural Address Madison (4th President) "...the guardianship and guidance of that Almighty Being whose power regulates the destiny of nations...to whom we are bound to address our devout gratitude for the past, as well as our fervent supplications and best hopes for the future." - Inaugural Address Monroe (5th President) "...with a firm reliance on the protection of Almighty God..." - Inaugural Address Lincoln (16th President) "...as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said 'the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether." - Inaugural Addrss Theodore Roosevelt (26th President) "No people on earth have more cause to be thankful than ours, and this is said reverently, in no spite of boastfulness in our own strength, but with gratitude to the Giver of Good who has blessed us..." - Inaugural Address Wilson (28th President) "we shall, in God's Providence, let us hope..." - Inaugural Address F D Roosevelt (32nd President) "And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in prayer...and, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee...Thy will be done, Almighty God." - Nationally Broadcast D-Day prayer. Eisenhower (34th President) "At such a time in history, we who are free must proclaim anew our faith...those gifts of the Creator that are man's inalienable rights, and that make all men equal in His sight." - Inaugural Address Kennedy (35th President) "...the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God." - Inaugural Address Carter (39th President) "Here before me is the Bible used in the inauguration of our first President, in 1789, and I have just taken the oath of office on the Bible my mother gave me a few years ago, opened to a timeless admonition from the ancient prophet Micah: 'He hath showed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God.' (Micah 6:8)" Ken Clifton http://www.lulu.com/kenclifton Quote
Guest Wide Eyed in Wonder Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 On Jul 16, 10:10 pm, Wide Eyed in Wonder <kand...@hotmail.com> wrote: > A few quotes from a few well-known Presidents that you won't read in > public schools... (quotes from my book, A Nation Under God) > > Washington (1st President) > "...it would be peculiarly improper to omit in this first official act > my fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the > universe, who presides in the councils of nations, and whose > providential aids can supply every human defect." - Inaugural Address > > Adams (2nd President) > "...with humble reverence, I feel it to be my duty to add, if a > veneration for the religion of a people who profess and call > themselves Christian, and a fixed resolution to consider a decent > respect for Christianity among the best recommendations for the public > service..." - Inaugural Address > > Jefferson (3rd President) > "...and may that Infinite Power which rules the destinies of the > universe lead our councils to what is best, and give them a favorable > issue for your peace and prosperity." - Inaugural Address > > Madison (4th President) > "...the guardianship and guidance of that Almighty Being whose power > regulates the destiny of nations...to whom we are bound to address our > devout gratitude for the past, as well as our fervent supplications > and best hopes for the future." - Inaugural Address > > Monroe (5th President) > "...with a firm reliance on the protection of Almighty God..." - > Inaugural Address > > Lincoln (16th President) > "...as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said > 'the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether." - > Inaugural Addrss > > Theodore Roosevelt (26th President) > "No people on earth have more cause to be thankful than ours, and this > is said reverently, in no spite of boastfulness in our own strength, > but with gratitude to the Giver of Good who has blessed us..." - > Inaugural Address > > Wilson (28th President) > "we shall, in God's Providence, let us hope..." - Inaugural Address > > F D Roosevelt (32nd President) > "And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in > prayer...and, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee...Thy will > be done, Almighty God." - Nationally Broadcast D-Day prayer. > > Eisenhower (34th President) > "At such a time in history, we who are free must proclaim anew our > faith...those gifts of the Creator that are man's inalienable rights, > and that make all men equal in His sight." - Inaugural Address > > Kennedy (35th President) > "...the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of > the state, but from the hand of God." - Inaugural Address > > Carter (39th President) > "Here before me is the Bible used in the inauguration of our first > President, in 1789, and I have just taken the oath of office on the > Bible my mother gave me a few years ago, opened to a timeless > admonition from the ancient prophet Micah: > 'He hath showed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord > require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk > humbly with thy God.' (Micah 6:8)" > > Ken Cliftonwww.lulu.com/kenclifton bump Ken Clifton -author of A Nation Under God http://www.lulu.com/kenclifton Quote
Guest Peter Franks Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote: > A few quotes from a few well-known Presidents that you won't read in > public schools... (quotes from my book, A Nation Under God) Inaugural addresses aren't "official government promotion of religion". So, excluding those quotes, we are left with: > F D Roosevelt (32nd President) > "And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in > prayer...and, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee...Thy will > be done, Almighty God." - Nationally Broadcast D-Day prayer. And > Carter (39th President) > "Here before me is the Bible used in the inauguration of our first > President, in 1789, and I have just taken the oath of office on the > Bible my mother gave me a few years ago, opened to a timeless > admonition from the ancient prophet Micah: > 'He hath showed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord > require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk > humbly with thy God.' (Micah 6:8)" No idea what this comes from, and without a reference, will be ignored. That leaves a single quote for analysis (FDR). Referring to the amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." 1) FDR was /president/, not congress, so this doesn't apply. 2) The statement does not establish a religion. 3) FDR has the right of free exercise, and apparently was exercising that right. So, in conclusion, your assertion regarding "Official Government Promotion of Religion" is found lacking. Quote
Guest Bob LeChevalier Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote: >On Jul 16, 10:10 pm, Wide Eyed in Wonder <kand...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> A few .... unimportant ... >> quotes from a few well-known Presidents that you won't read in >> public schools. Kids in public schools, private schools, and whatever don't tend to read presidential quotes of any sort. They simply aren't that important. A couple are noteworthy enough to gain attention, in particular the words of Lincoln, because of the circumstances in the nation WHEN he said them. >bump grind lojbab Quote
Guest Wide Eyed in Wonder Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 On Jul 17, 9:14 am, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote: > Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote: > > > A few quotes from a few well-known Presidents that you won't read in > > public schools... (quotes from my book, A Nation Under God) > > Inaugural addresses aren't "official government promotion of religion". > > So, excluding those quotes, we are left with: > > > F D Roosevelt (32nd President) > > "And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in > > prayer...and, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee...Thy will > > be done, Almighty God." - Nationally Broadcast D-Day prayer. > > And > > > Carter (39th President) > > "Here before me is the Bible used in the inauguration of our first > > President, in 1789, and I have just taken the oath of office on the > > Bible my mother gave me a few years ago, opened to a timeless > > admonition from the ancient prophet Micah: > > 'He hath showed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord > > require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk > > humbly with thy God.' (Micah 6:8)" > > No idea what this comes from, and without a reference, will be ignored. > > That leaves a single quote for analysis (FDR). > > Referring to the amendment: > > "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or > prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." > > 1) FDR was /president/, not congress, so this doesn't apply. > > 2) The statement does not establish a religion. > > 3) FDR has the right of free exercise, and apparently was exercising > that right. > > So, in conclusion, your assertion regarding "Official Government > Promotion of Religion" is found lacking. Teachers are not congress either, right? Ken Clifton christiansuperhero.com Quote
Guest ZerkonX Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:10:48 -0700, Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote: > God Jesus Christ commonly spoke Aramaic. The world for God in Aramaic is Allah. Quote
Guest Peter Franks Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote: > On Jul 17, 9:14 am, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote: > >>Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote: >> >> >>>A few quotes from a few well-known Presidents that you won't read in >>>public schools... (quotes from my book, A Nation Under God) >> >>Inaugural addresses aren't "official government promotion of religion". >> >>So, excluding those quotes, we are left with: >> >> >>>F D Roosevelt (32nd President) >>>"And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in >>>prayer...and, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee...Thy will >>>be done, Almighty God." - Nationally Broadcast D-Day prayer. >> >>And >> >> >>>Carter (39th President) >>>"Here before me is the Bible used in the inauguration of our first >>>President, in 1789, and I have just taken the oath of office on the >>>Bible my mother gave me a few years ago, opened to a timeless >>>admonition from the ancient prophet Micah: >>>'He hath showed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord >>>require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk >>>humbly with thy God.' (Micah 6:8)" >> >>No idea what this comes from, and without a reference, will be ignored. >> >>That leaves a single quote for analysis (FDR). >> >>Referring to the amendment: >> >>"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or >>prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." >> >>1) FDR was /president/, not congress, so this doesn't apply. >> >>2) The statement does not establish a religion. >> >>3) FDR has the right of free exercise, and apparently was exercising >>that right. >> >>So, in conclusion, your assertion regarding "Official Government >>Promotion of Religion" is found lacking. > > Teachers are not congress either, right? Yes, that is correct; excepting the case where a teacher happens to be a concurrently-serving congressperson. Quote
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