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What is your opinion of the Catholic Church?

Favorable 21% 767

Unfavorable 79% 2882

Total Votes: 3649

 

Do these 21% that support the Catholic Church, condemn my faith, just

like Nazi Catholics did the faith of the relatives of my ancestors who were

blood descendants of Israel, who did not believe in the Trinity, but spoke

in tongues like the Apostles did on the day of Pentecost, and died in Nazi

Sanitariums or Nazi Concentration Camps?

 

Do these minority that support the Antichrist Jews, condemn my faith,

just like Soviet Antichrist Jews, did the faith of the relatives of my

ancestors who were blood descendants of Israel, did not believe in the

Trinity, but spoke in tongues like the Apostles did on the day of Pentecost,

and died in Soviet Sanitariums or Soviet Gulag Camps?

 

 

I wonder where the 21% stand on their approval rating of the Congress, and

on the President, and on the War in Iraq, and on the other War on Terror

Are they the same 21% that supports Congress, or is that minority

Evangelical that supports Congress, or that minority Jewish that supports

Congress? Howabout on the President, and on the War in Iraq, and on the

other War on Terror?

 

 

ABC News

 

My name is Joseph R Loegering

 

Founder, of the C.A.L.M. before the Storm!

 

Blog http://josephloegering.blogspot.com/

 

The unarmed underground, Civil American Liberties Militia!

 

Intelligence and NBC Defense.

 

The Central Command and Control Office.

 

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Follow me, I am a US Army Veteran!

 

I am a US Army Veteran, and this information is only recorded in the White

House and US Pentagon about me, because in Europe a Soviet Agent tried to

drug and control me in the 1970s, I am a registered informant of the

Criminal Investigation Department of the US Armed Forces, and now I cannot

see or hear well because of eye and brain damage that I got in the US Army

in 1982, and while hunting Osama Bin Laden and his likes in 2001-2004,

someone hacked my computer and tried to set me up to look like a suicide

bomber while I was writing President Bush, and I take the Governments not

responding to my complaints on these issues as refusing to get the evidence

of the computer hacking and investigate, and as evidence that someone in the

US Government and CNN, Time Warner Cable, and Roadrunner, has betrayed me,

and allowed and is allowing our enemies to use the systems set up, to try to

destroy my credibility, so that they can use the systems to eliminate me,

just like they said that they would try to do to me, they have already

nearly succeeded by causing the old symptoms of organic brain damage to be

more prominent, and causing new symptoms of organic brain damage to appear,

and when they succeed, the I told you so, is going to be too late.

 

I was investigating suicide bombers that had been kidnapped, and were forced

to appear to be suicide bombers against their will, and they hacked my

computer to try to make me look like a suicide bomber, which the Microsoft

Word file transfers that were stolen from my PC, and were changed to make me

look like a sucide bomber, and were replaced, are easily traceable back to

the hackers. But the reason someone in the US Government and CNN, Time

Warner Cable, and Roadrunner, may have for hiding what was done to me, is

that though I am a blood descendant of Israel, I am a Christian who speaks

in tongues like the Apostiles did on the day of Paenticost, and some of them

thought I was Anti-Semitic because I was saying that Communists were using

the State of Israel to try to overthrow the US from within, and someone in

the State of Israel, probably a Communist organization, may be involved in

the kidnappings.

 

Government, Business, Medical, and Church records, were all used to betray

relatives of my ancestors that were Christian Blood descendants of Israel,

that like me spoke in tongues like the Apostles on the day of Pentecost,

they were betrayed into the hands of Trinitarian Nazis in Germany, and into

the hands of Antichrist Jews in the USSR, where many Antichrist Jews in

Israel today have immigrated from, and they are now using computers to

search US Records so that they may drug people like me who stood face to

face with Soviet Agents in the Cold War, into being vegetables, trying to

kill us like they did the relatives of my ancestors.

 

As investigative reporters, ABC, can you help me find out why someone in the

US Government, and CNN, Time Warner Cable, and Roadrunner, betrayed me into

the hands of our enemies, and allowed our enemies to use the system to try

to eliminate me, to prevent them from doing it to me again, as they try to

succeed in eliminating me, and or stop them from doing it to others?

 

So what do you think that I need to write in this draft letter to get them

to respond and investigate and solve the Problem?

 

Mr. President

 

What can a person do, when they call either the US Government or the US News

Media, and they tell them the truth, and the US Government or the US News

Media don't believe them until it is too late to save our lives and our

Liberety? What can a person do. when enemies of the People of these Untied

States call either the US Government or the US News Media and tell them lies

that are propaganda designed to help them destroy just citizens of these

United States, and they believe all the enemies lies and promote their

propaganda for them, to help them destroy our lives and our Liberty? Why is

it that when you call these bureaucracies, and point out serious problems

with their systems, that are allowing our enemies to use them to cause us

harm, but instead of solving the problems, they give you nothing but a phone

or email runaround, or a philosophical or a political or an ethical

runaround, where nothing concrete is done to stop the bodiliy harm, and

mental damage, being caused by enemies, using these organizations to harm

innocent citizens of these United States?

 

Is that because their bureaucracies have become destructive of Life,

Liberty, and pursuit of happiness and our enemies are just taking advantage

of the bureaucracies, or is that because the people running the

bureaucracies have become corrupt and have betrayed us and are working with

our enemies? Either way, it is self evident that we must take imedeate

action, and whatever is necessisary to alter their systems, and stop our

enimies from using them for the destruction of our Lives, our Liberty, and

our pursuit of happiness.

 

I had written you saying that in our War against Osama Bin Laden and his

likes, and Al-Qaeda, we may have been drawn into the Iraq War with false WMD

reports, so that the Communists could destroy us from another angle, and I

wrote and told you that the other angle was that they were going to try to

destroy our economy, and take over the United States within. Before I was

personally attacked with it, because I was aware of our enemies plans, I

even wrote you during your 2004 presidential campaign that Mental Health was

the greatest threat to our lives and to our Liberty, because our enemies

planned on using Doctors to infiltrate our Nation, and attack us from

within.

 

I have sound reason and sound evidence that leads me and others to believe

that their goal to take us over from within has been partially accomplished

by the enemies of the people of these United States.

 

Even with the latest revelation and sound evidence that I did not

manufacture my warnings on the News, revealing that Doctors allied with

Al-Qaeda were infiltrating Britain and planning on causing harm, the News

Media and the US Government still has failed to take head to my warnings and

stop the attacks upon Citizens of these United States, and instead promotes

propaganda so that our enemies my hide from the Public eye, and continue

their destructive attacks causing bodily and mental harm and financial ruin

to innocent citizens of these United States.

 

 

 

CNN

 

and

 

Dr. Sanjay Gupta

 

I need you to pick up a phone and call me and talk until these matters are

solved.

 

While members of my Family and Friends loose their lives and limbs in

battle, and I hunt for Osama Bin Laden and his likes, defending you, my

Family, and my Country, some of my Countrymen have betrayed me into the

hands of the enemies of the People of these United States.

 

I have been preemptively attacked causing serious damage and serious bodily

harm to me, and the loss of life of some of my friends, and the loss of

liberty of others, by a group of people who are motivated with fear and

paranoia that causes them the be delusional.

 

A group or groups of people hacked my Personal Computer, and rewrote all my

personal religious and political writings, and tried to set me up to look

like a suicide bomber while I was hunting Osama Bin Laden.

 

I am near blind and near deaf most of the time because of a traumatic brain

injury caused by a rock that hit me during my second term of US Army Service

in 1982. And I believe these people attacked me and betrayed me to Al-Qaeda

because of my religious belief, and because I believed that there was no WMD

in Iraq since 1993, and believed that Communists had used Islam and Israel

and deliberately drawn us into a War in Iraq, so that they could destroy our

economy and overthrow us from within.

 

Members of CNN motivated by fear and paranoia, had Doctors lock me up with

false allegations of coming to CNN unannounced, a false allegation of being

homeless, and false allegations of stalking Wolf Blitzer and Nancy Grace, so

that the Doctors would not let me go solely based on the fear that CNN would

sue them, if they let me go and something were to happen, even though I have

no record of doing such things in fifty years of history,

 

These Doctors deliberately ignored my complaints and the symptoms and force

treated me with drugs that caused the old symptoms of organic brain damage

to become more prominent, and caused new symptoms of additional organic

brain damage to appear.

 

When contacting the US Government and CNN, I get no response concerning the

matters that I just wrote, and the lawyers say it would cost too much for

them to get it into Court, so having no way to get just redress for my just

grievances, and prevent any further harm and or death to me, and or to my

Family, and or to my friends, and or to my fellow countrymen.

 

With the USA at War with Al-Qaeda, and members of my own Country whom will

not give a direct phone call to work out how to stop that damage and bodily

harm that they are causing, using propaganda, and fear and paranoia, to

hinder and harm people hunting down Bin Laden and his likes, I have no

choice but to consider that those whose actions benefit Al-Qaeda, have

become homegrown terrorist cells, plotting and working with Al-Qaeda.

 

And of course, as an enemy they will falsely say, "he is a dangerous mental

case, that needs to be force threatened with the same drugs that gave him

brain damage," even though it was their not responding with any

communications, and their fear and paranoia and delusions, that initially

caused bodily harm, and death, and the loss of Liberty, to so many, unjustly

and without just cause.

 

In service of God and Country

 

Joseph

 

 

 

Mr. Lame Duck,

 

My name is Joseph R Loegering

 

Founder, of the C.A.L.M. before the Storm!

 

Blog http://josephloegering.blogspot.com/

 

The unarmed underground, Civil American Liberties Militia!

 

Intelligence and NBC Defense.

 

The Central Command and Control Office.

 

6050 Highway 10 NW Trailer 19

 

Anoka Minnesota, 55303-4579

 

Phone 763-205-1296

 

Just stay C.A.L.M. everybody, we are here for you!

 

Follow me, I am a US Army Veteran!

 

The Lame Duck has become a leader of a flock of Sitting Ducks that all

quack the same in Washington.

 

After seeing the video of Nukes in Pakistan, I know that them Chinese spin

off Nuclear Warheads, can be converted to Briefcase Bombs easily, making

your antimissile system useless, and that is the plan of our enemies, which

I now confirm. Don't lock us in like you passport crap, lock them out! All

you need to do is say State Drivers Licenses and State IDs are passports,

and every US Citizen will be free to come and go as they please.

 

Was a Chinese connection used as a fall guy of Nuclear Proliferation to

support your ally, so that you could hide that some among our Government and

US Corporations are connected with Chinese Corporations that are

manufacturing weapons that end up in Iran, and sometimes end up killing our

troops? Where did some of them hi tech detonators used on roadside bombs and

car bombs in Iraq come from Mr. Lame Duck? Are those that had a part in

something dirty distancing themselves from you, and making you a Lame Duck

so that they can hide that they were involved and continue their dirty

works?

 

Are your hands or the hands of your Family dirty about someting Mr. Lame

Duck? Why are the records of the investigation of power corruption on Ft

Riley when I served sealed so that the Public cannot find the truth? I did

not have PSTD or further symptoms of more brain damage, until after I was

coaxed and forced to take them dangerous mind control drugs, being

antidepressants or the other psychotropic drugs, what are you covering up

about Bin Laden and his likes? What are you hiding about our equipment being

destroyed? What are you hiding about to whom and where our tax money is

going? Are you hiding that so you and your flock of Docks can quack for more

Tax money? Are you and the Government and News Media doing something like

what they are doing to me, and or worse to my fellow American Warriors? Mr.

President, most of the people who take antidepressants or the other

psychotropic drugs have never thought about committing suicide or murder

suicide until after they take the antidepressants and or the other

psychotropic drugs, why are you allowing the Doctors to destroy our minds,

and or eliminate us?

 

Well, as a results of your power grabs taking away our Freedom, and you

incompetent actions, and your extreme waste of Lives and tax money, that

made you a Lame Duck leader of them Sitting Ducks in Washington that guack

like you on these issues, advise them Sitting Ducks in Washington not to

follow Michael Turnoff's advice of putting Duct Tape on the windows, to try

to protect themselves, advise them Politicians and the Domestic and Foreign

Lobbyists and CEOs that own them, that when they see the flash, "Ducks, take

cover!"

 

(PS. The general feeling of a lot among the Public. Don't set up a separate

US Government to take charge of our Security just in case, the majority of

US Citizens don't want people from among either Tax and Spend Democrats or

the Borrow until Economic Collapse Republicans to be in charge of our

Enslavement, ah, I mean what they call our Security anymore, after polling a

bunch of Slaves, ah, that means people you call free US Citizens, they want

both all those Slave Masters, ah, that means Politicians and the Domestic

and Foreign Lobbyists and CEOs, from the Democratic and Republican Parties

to be Stationed in Washington as soon as possible.)

 

There is no such things as "responsibility," that would justify those who

knowingly participate in the execution of unarmed innocent civilians in a

time of peace, or a time of War, it is called a crime against humanity. Even

if you shoot unarmed enemy soldiers that surrender, it is tried as a crime

against humanity. Some of the surrendering unarmed soldiers that are being

executed, and some of the unarmed civilians being executed, may have

information that would incriminate someone in our Country or NATO or Israel

for crimes against humanity,

 

Why are people among US Armed Forces, who might be able to reveal direct

connections to dirty Politicians or Corporate leaders being targeted? Is it

because they know details about the mass murders, or because they know

details about how some of our Politicians and Corporate leaders are stealing

our Tax money, or is it that some are giving support to our enemies, or is

it because they were assigned to investigate corruption of power?

 

Bush says the battlefield has been left to the commanders on the ground, but

I say that is a political ploy to distance the politicians from what the are

having some Soldiers do, so that they can use them as fall guys if the

public finds out.

 

A good First Sargent revealed something to me secretly, he said like I was

selected to be an Armed Guard of a dangerous mass murder, because the NCO

over me said, "Out of 127 men, when I was assigned the task of appointing an

armed guard for that man, you were the only one that I could think of, that

would not have shot him just for the hell of it, but would have if you had

to," and the good First Sargent said, that was a good NCO, but dirty

Politicians know who the dirty Soldiers are too, and would have appointed an

NCO that would not have selected you for the job, and when they are in

charge, good men like you and that NCO, are going to be in trouble all the

rest of your lives.

 

Many of us who served our God and our Country in the US Armed forces,

besides our daily duty laid upon us, many of us were assigned individual

missions to accomplish, which were handed to us by the Officers appointed

over us. Whenever handed a mission by an Officer over us, often the urgency

of the matter and the immediate dangers that we faced, required us to not

think about any political connections to our missions, as we focused on

getting the mission done, and even after the mission was done, many of us

never even considered the political connections to our missions, wherein

many of us often got our hands unjustifiably dirty for a dirty Politician or

dirty Politicians, without even knowing it at that time.

 

When dirty Politician or dirty Politicians see that we accomplished a dirty

mission for them, they begin covering their tracks by assigning us the most

dangerous missions, in hopes that we will not return and be able to reveal

the details of missions that would connect them to something that they had

us do, even if we do not realize it was them how had us handed missions that

got our hands dirty. If we somehow survive our dangerous missions the dirty

Politician or dirty Politicians do not stop there, they try to eliminate us

even once we are discharged, because they are afraid we might remember

details of the mission that got our hands dirty, and they are afraid it

would implicate them.

 

The US Government and News Media are set up to destroy those of us who got

our hands dirty somehow, serving our God and our Country.

 

CNN and the other News Media, has decided to do the Governments bidding, and

not show either the extensive damage being inflicted upon our Armed Forces

in Iraq, or the extensive damage being inflicted upon innocent civilians by

our forces, because the Government claims that the enemy could use such

things against us, but in reality it is to distance the dirty Politician or

dirty Politicians from the dirty missions that they assigned some of our

Troops, and hide the dirty missions of our Troops long enough for the to

eliminate any of our Troops that might remember details that will connect

the dirty missions with the dirty Politician or dirty Politicians.

 

CNN and the other News Media, has decided to do the Governments bidding, and

brainwash the Public into thinking that their Psychological Profilers are

trying to help our Troops and the Mentally Ill, so that they may give our

Troops that got our hands dirty somehow, serving our God and our Country,

dangerous mind control drugs, that will eventually cause exactly what they

claim that the drugs are suppose to prevent, and this is being done to

eliminate our Troops that got their hands dirty for the dirty Politician or

dirty Politicians

 

If you have Troops who served this Country in your Families, do not let the

Government, or the Media, or the Doctors, or allow them to give them any

drugs that are listed as Psychotropic drugs, take care of them by a loving

alternate means of treatment other than drugs, for the Government, or the

Media, or the Doctors, has conspired to try to turn you against them,

working paranoia in you, to turn you against them saying you must have these

drugs or you will do violence or commit a crime or commit suicide. The

Government and the Doctors and the News Media are throng to put them in a

threatening position where they can provoke them to attack, and use that to

justify themselves for murdering our Troops that have dirty hands and might

remember details that link the dirty for the dirty Politician or dirty

Politicians.

 

Many of the Politicians are eliminating people that might remember details

that could connect them to mass graves in Iraq or around the world.

 

Many dirty Politicians and dirty Corporate Leaders are just as guilty of the

mass murders of innocent people in Iraq as Saddam Hussein, and the dirty

Politicians and dirty Corporate Leaders want to eliminate our Troops that

might remember details, even if they know no details but were assigned in

areas where they could have stumbled across those details, that would

connect them to these crimes against humanity.

 

Many Politicians from among the Reagan/Bush, Clinton/Quail, and the

Bush/Cheney administrations are dirty Politicians that have committed crimes

against humanity, giving orders and or support of mass murdering innocent

unarmed civilians.

 

I often have a choice to make, be controlled and confined and probably be

killed by an enemy on the left, or by an enemy on the right, and though I

have been repeatedly able to escape, those are the only two options that the

US Government, and US News Media, have left me to choose from.

 

I am a registered informant for the Criminal Investigation Department of the

US Armed Forces, recorded only the White House and the US Pentagon for

Security Reasons, but some traitors among our Armed Forces, and among our

Government, blew my Secret involvement with CID against Foreign Enemies and

Domestic Criminals a long time ago, in an attempt to get me killed off by

Foreign Enemies and or by Domestic Criminals, for what I was trained for,

and know and do.

 

Just stay C.A.L.M. everybody, we are here for you!

 

Follow me, I am a US Army Veteran!

 

The Surgeon General controversy in the News Media is deliberately being

brought up by the News Media and a bipartisan effort of the Democratic and

Republican Parties, to distract people's attention from the most dangerous

Medical Issues that threaten their Liberty and their Lives, Mental Health

and the Neo Nazi Medical Treatment that many on Capital Hill, and in the

Democratic and Republican Parties, and in the News Media, want to keep as

Law, and expand it to everyone, because that is a way for them to deceive

the Public into helping them to eliminate their Political or Religious

Opponents whom have committed no crimes.

 

Before William Bruce committed any Violent acts, he was misdiagnosed and was

coaxed into being treated with dangerous mind control drugs which damaged

his brain, and they

wanted him to keep taking the drugs that damaged his brain. People who

commit suicide or murder suicide after talking them dangerous mind control

drugs are fine examples of the crimes done against humanity by the

Brainwashing Doctors and Police and Courts and News Media.

 

The News Media will not focus on the truth of this issue, but from the

actions of Hitler and Stalin, and the way that they used Mental Health

Issues to turn people into mental vegetables, and mass murder millions, it

is the most dangerous issue treating our Liberty and our Lives today. Out of

the 45,000 to 90,000 so called Iatrogenic Deaths that occur in the USA every

year, or the tens of thousands of people being drugged to be mental

vegetables, and are being written off as Iatrogenic Illnesses every year,

how many of them were done, or are being done to remove Political or

Religious Opponents just like in Nazi Germany and or the USSR? Just one is

assault and or murder.

 

Just like the Psychological Profilers of Nazi Germany and the USSR, CNN and

US Doctors supported by the US Government, contacted my Family, and tried

turning them against me without just cause, saying that I needed to be on

Medication for my health and safety, because they falsely said that I had a

Mental Illness, a Mental Illness that there is no scientific test that can

be run that would prove that you have that Mental Illness, but they were

saying that Mental Illness might cause me to commit crimes, or to commit

suicide, and they said that if I did not have those mind control drugs that

I had already had bad reactions to, that I would probably commit crimes or

commit suicide. But their so called Medical Treatment caused the old

symptoms of organic brain damage that I had gotten in the US Army, to be

more prominent, and caused symptoms of new organic brain damage.

 

But that is exactly what the News Media and Doctors did in nazi Germany,

they are the same kind of Psychological Profilers that were in Nazis did

in Germany when they drugged people into being vegetables to silence them.

 

And CNN and the US Government has twisted my Medical History to justify

themselves for persecuting me, and trying to confine me even though I have

committed no crime, so that they can drug me into being a vegetable, or try

to kill me.

 

CNN even tracked down and called my brothers in other states looking for me

so that they could continue to motivate the Government to lock me up even

though I have committed no crime, but they want me locked up because of

their Psychological Profilers and Doctors, whom have misdiagnosed me based

upon false allegations.

 

Relatives of my ancestors were betrayed into the hands of the Nazis and or

into the hands of the Soviet Communists by Church Records, and or by

Business Records, and or by Medical Records, and or by Government Records,

and they were either drugged into being vegetables, and or were thrown into

Concentration Camps or Gulag Camps, is it a coincident that someone is using

US Records to do the same against me? Both the relatives of my ancestors

that were persecuted were like me, Jewish blood descendants of Israel that

are Christians, that don't believe the Jews or the Trinitarian Churches are

telling the truth, and like me, the relatives of my ancestors spoke in

tongues like the Apostles did on the day of Pentecost.

 

While I was hunting Bin Laden and his likes, with the number of emails and

phone calls that I sent or made to the President, and or to the CIA, and or

to the FBI, and or to CNN, and or to Time Warner Cable, asking for help,

saying that I was on Time Warner Cable and Roadrunner, and someone hacked my

computer and is trying to set me up to look like a suicide bomber, why is it

that no one would investigate, and allow the attacks to escalate? Being in a

home that had Time Warner Cable and Roadrunner, and sending CNN a letter

saying that I would be in New York, needing help to flush out Bin laden and

his likes, why would they falsely accuse me of arriving unannounced, and

falsely accuse me of being homeless, and falsely accuse me of stalking Wolf

Blitzer and Nancy Grace?

 

The people that were at first monitoring my computer thinking that I would

not be smart enough to realize that data being transferred to them, when I

confronted them by writing them a letter on my computer, they hacked my

computer and turned my Microsoft Word into a Chat room, and it appeared that

their was several groups debating with each other, and with me, on different

Political and different Religious Views, even with copies of the files, why

will the US Government not investigate? Why would the US Government allow

them to use Corporate Computers and the internet to get data off my

computer, both on me, and to track down people that were honestly hunting

Bin Laden and his likes?

 

The Government will not allow the case to get into court, because it would

fall back on too many Politicians that allowed people to hack my computer

and try to set me up to look like a suicide bomber while I was hunting down

Bin Laden and his likes. And it would reveal that Bush and the Bush

Administration gave the orders to protect the President, and even though I

complained each time, that got me repeatedly force treated with deliberate

misdiagnosis and dangerous mind control drugs that eventually caused the old

symptoms of organic brain damage that I had gotten in the US Army, to be

more prominent, and caused symptoms of new organic brain damage. . They want

to wipe out my mind because of what I know and do against Foreign and

Domestic Enemies of our US Constitution and Bill of Rights.

 

To the US Government, US Judges, US Lawyers, US Police, and CNN and the rest

of the US News Media!

 

Us Iatrogenic Medical Slaves, say to our Slave Masters, give us Liberty, or

give us death!

 

.......

 

This ballot gives you the right to choose between two evils, which do you

consider to be the lesser of the two evils?

 

Caught between the Turf Wars of Legal Corporate Iatrogenic enslaving

Medications, and Illegal Street enslaving Iatrogenic Medications, so that

either side that we choose we will become Iatrogenic Slaves owned by our

Drug Dealers, so which of the two groups of Iatrogenic Medical Slave

Masters, are the lesser of the two evils?

 

Lets see, if you choose the Legal Corporate Iatrogenic Slave Masters, and

stop taking their Legal Iatrogenic Medicines that enslave you, they scream

that, "you are crazy," and can lock you up, and force the Legal Iatrogenic

Medicines upon you to keep you enslaved!

 

But if you choose the Illegal Street Iatrogenic Slave Masters, and stop

taking their Illegal Iatrogenic Medicines that enslave you, they scream, "No

don't go," and to try to keep you enslaved, they say, "I will give you a

free hit if you stay," but if you don't accept it, they can not lock you up,

and you are no longer enslaved, your are free!

 

Are you ready to Vote?

 

But wait a minute, didn't we have the right to choose the 13th Amendment,

just so that we could be free from Slavery? Did you guys forget to tell

these people that run our Society this way, about the accomplishments of the

Civil War? Oh wait, because of the Drugs that they forced upon me, I forgot

all about that guy that took the Presidency! Lets see, what was his name?

 

Was it George? Or was it Mud?

 

Us Iatrogenic Medical Slaves, say to our Slave Masters, give us Liberty, or

give us death!

 

For you deliberately conspired to do this thing, and you are now in

violation of the 13th Amendment of our US Constitution!

 

To the dishonest and greedy Racketeering US Doctors and US Medical Staff and

US Drug Manufactures and US Officials.

 

As an experienced registered informant for the Criminal Investigation

Department, of the United States Army, it is doing my Duty to my God, and to

my Country, as I secretly pretend to be one of them, and stand face to face

with Domestic Criminals and Foreign Enemies, going along with whatever

interests and activities the Domestic Criminals or Foreign Enemies, have

busied themselves with, as I secretly suck up all the information, and

gather all the evidence that I can, about their interests and activities,

and then I report of their interests and activities, and give the evidence

to the loyal among the US Government.

 

We are members of the C.A.L.M. before the Storm. The unarmed underground

Civil American Liberties Militia. We are made up of mostly likeminded US

Military Veterans that are spread across the entire USA, and some abroad,

secretly doing our Duty to our God, and to our County! We have no

membership, we are all Volunteers, and we do not expect any pay for our Duty

that we daily do, working separately to bring about our joint effort of

defending our Families and our Country, by exercising the Rights that we

serve our God and our Country to defend, against all our common Enemies,

Foreign and Domestic.

 

We have found that most Politicians and Judges and Lawyers and Police

Officers and the Media and the Public, do not even know what an Iatrogenic

Illness is! And we have found that some of you have deliberately taken

advantage of their ignorance, and you have conspired to use your Freedom to

say whatever you want to say, to influence and help them design and set up

our Hospitals and our Clinics and our Courts, just so that some of you can

try to get away with producing Chronic Iatrogenic Illnesses. Just so that

you can make a Wealthy Lifestyle for yourselves, as you continue getting

paid for causing the Chronic Iatrogenic Illnesses as Slave Masters of

Iatrogenic Medical Slavery! And we have found that many of you are

influencing or buying out the judgment of the FDA, or Politicians, or other

Officials, or of the Media, just to get them to approve and support the use

of Drugs, that often cause more harm than good, because they were developed

to make you the Slave Masters, and the Slave Owners, of those that you

deliberately targeted and bound in your Iatrogenic Medical Slavery!

 

Some of the Medications used for producing Chronic Iatrogenic Illnesses, are

not used for the category of Mental Illnesses, but are not cures of

sicknesses, they are classified as Treatments for Chronic Sicknesses. But a

majority of the Medications used for producing Chronic Iatrogenic Illnesses,

are used for the category of what they call Chronic Mental Illnesses. And we

have found that you have even been using the Mass Media, to play upon

people's ignorance of Mental Illnesses, to build fear in them, as you build

prejudice in them, so that you can motivate them to do your dirty works at

your will. And we found some of you have been deliberately brainwashing our

society for a long time, to get them to blindly support, and to blindly

follow along with your scam of Medical Racketeering. And out of their

ignorance of Mental Illnesses, and the fears that you gave them, you have

tricked them into giving you the authority to use force, even upon those

whom you falsely claim have a Dangerous Mental Illness. And out of their

ignorance of Mental Illnesses, and the fears that you gave them, you have

built prejudice in them, and often motivate them by your influence over the

collective social group, to use intimidation, as a fear factor, upon those

who you falsely claim need your Medications, that cause Iatrogenic

Illnesses. And some of you are deliberately abusing the authority to use

force, as you force upon people ignorant of Mental Illnesses, Medications

that cause Iatrogenic Illnesses, just so that you can enslave them in your

Iatrogenic Medical Slavery.

 

I have the Detailed Documentation of what they are planning and doing,

enough to get thousands of convictions, does anyone want it?

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Guest Kadaitcha Man
Posted

Joseph R Loegering <JosephLoegering@Comcast.net> Thou bat. Thou

unconscious, toad-spotted pernicious and indubitate beggar. Ye frothed:

> What is your opinion of the Catholic Church?

> Favorable 21% 767

> Unfavorable 79% 2882

 

Given that Catholics make graven images and bow down to them, and given

Catholic priests are known to have a very costly penchant for fucking little

boys, do you find those figures somehow surprising or unjustified?

 

--

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"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."

Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

 

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Guest Joseph R Loegering
Posted

"Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:f7hk4a$d55$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...

> Joseph R Loegering <JosephLoegering@Comcast.net> Thou bat. Thou

> unconscious, toad-spotted pernicious and indubitate beggar. Ye frothed:

>

>> What is your opinion of the Catholic Church?

>> Favorable 21% 767

>> Unfavorable 79% 2882

>

> Given that Catholics make graven images and bow down to them, and given

> Catholic priests are known to have a very costly penchant for fucking

> little

> boys, do you find those figures somehow surprising or unjustified?

>

 

I not only find it surprising or unjustified, I find it surprising or

unjustified that about that same percentage still support Congress, and

about that percentage still support Bush, and about that percentage still

support the Iraq War, so I am wondering, is it the same idiots in all those

minority poles?

 

In service of God and Country

 

Joseph

Guest Kadaitcha Man
Posted

Joseph R Loegering <JosephLoegering@Comcast.net> Thou rank daughter.

Thou bird-brained fishwife. Ye harried:

> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:f7hk4a$d55$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...

>> Joseph R Loegering <JosephLoegering@Comcast.net> Thou bat. Thou

>> unconscious, toad-spotted pernicious and indubitate beggar. Ye

>> frothed:

>>> What is your opinion of the Catholic Church?

>>> Favorable 21% 767

>>> Unfavorable 79% 2882

>>

>> Given that Catholics make graven images and bow down to them, and

>> given Catholic priests are known to have a very costly penchant for

>> fucking little

>> boys, do you find those figures somehow surprising or unjustified?

>>

>

> I not only find it surprising or unjustified, I find it surprising or

> unjustified that about that same percentage still support Congress,

> and about that percentage still support Bush, and about that

> percentage still support the Iraq War, so I am wondering, is it the

> same idiots in all those minority poles?

 

So, creating graven images, bowing down to them, and fucking little boys is

unsuprising and justified? And you want people to believe that, yes?

> In service of God and Country

>

> Joseph

 

--

alt.usenet.kooks

"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."

Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

 

Hammer of Thor: February 2007. Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook,

Line & Sinker: September 2005, April 2006, January 2007.

Official Member: Cabal Obsidian Order COOSN-124-07-06660

 

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Guest Joseph R Loegering
Posted

"Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:f7hm0i$hhq$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...

> Joseph R Loegering <JosephLoegering@Comcast.net> Thou rank daughter.

> Thou bird-brained fishwife. Ye harried:

>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:f7hk4a$d55$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...

>>> Joseph R Loegering <JosephLoegering@Comcast.net> Thou bat. Thou

>>> unconscious, toad-spotted pernicious and indubitate beggar. Ye

>>> frothed:

>>>> What is your opinion of the Catholic Church?

>>>> Favorable 21% 767

>>>> Unfavorable 79% 2882

>>>

>>> Given that Catholics make graven images and bow down to them, and

>>> given Catholic priests are known to have a very costly penchant for

>>> fucking little

>>> boys, do you find those figures somehow surprising or unjustified?

>>>

>>

>> I not only find it surprising or unjustified, I find it surprising or

>> unjustified that about that same percentage still support Congress,

>> and about that percentage still support Bush, and about that

>> percentage still support the Iraq War, so I am wondering, is it the

>> same idiots in all those minority poles?

>

> So, creating graven images, bowing down to them, and fucking little boys

> is

> unsuprising and justified? And you want people to believe that, yes?

 

No, thanks for correcting tha, I cannot see well, I am saying the other way

around, I find it Suprising and Unjustified that thay still support

Catholics or Congress or Bush or the Iraq War.

 

In service of God and Country

 

Joseph

>

>> In service of God and Country

>>

>> Joseph

>

> --

> alt.usenet.kooks

> "We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."

> Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

>

> Hammer of Thor: February 2007. Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook,

> Line & Sinker: September 2005, April 2006, January 2007.

> Official Member: Cabal Obsidian Order COOSN-124-07-06660

>

> Find me on Google Maps: 24

Guest Joseph R Loegering
Posted

"Joseph R Loegering" <JosephLoegering@Comcast.net> wrote in message

news:59ydnYP4y6ciwwHbnZ2dnUVZ_vqpnZ2d@comcast.com...

>

> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:f7hm0i$hhq$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...

>> Joseph R Loegering <JosephLoegering@Comcast.net> Thou rank daughter.

>> Thou bird-brained fishwife. Ye harried:

>>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:f7hk4a$d55$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...

>>>> Joseph R Loegering <JosephLoegering@Comcast.net> Thou bat. Thou

>>>> unconscious, toad-spotted pernicious and indubitate beggar. Ye

>>>> frothed:

>>>>> What is your opinion of the Catholic Church?

>>>>> Favorable 21% 767

>>>>> Unfavorable 79% 2882

>>>>

>>>> Given that Catholics make graven images and bow down to them, and

>>>> given Catholic priests are known to have a very costly penchant for

>>>> fucking little

>>>> boys, do you find those figures somehow surprising or unjustified?

>>>>

>>>

>>> I not only find it surprising or unjustified, I find it surprising or

>>> unjustified that about that same percentage still support Congress,

>>> and about that percentage still support Bush, and about that

>>> percentage still support the Iraq War, so I am wondering, is it the

>>> same idiots in all those minority poles?

>>

>> So, creating graven images, bowing down to them, and fucking little boys

>> is

>> unsuprising and justified? And you want people to believe that, yes?

>

 

 

> No, thanks for correcting tha, I cannot see well, I am saying the other

> way around, I find it Suprising and Unjustified that thay still support

> Catholics or Congress or Bush or the Iraq War.

>

 

Someone just told me how to make the fonts big enough for me to see them in

Outlook Express, so now I can correct the spelling, now if I only they would

make it so I that could see the words in the spell checker, or the letters

on the keyboard, it would make it easier.

------------------------------------------------

So, thanks for correcting that, I cannot see well, I am saying the other

way

around, I find it Surprising and Unjustified that they still support

Catholics or Congress or Bush or the Iraq War.

 

In service of God and Country

 

Joseph

>>

>> --

>> alt.usenet.kooks

>> "We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."

>> Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

>>

>> Hammer of Thor: February 2007. Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook,

>> Line & Sinker: September 2005, April 2006, January 2007.

>> Official Member: Cabal Obsidian Order COOSN-124-07-06660

>>

>> Find me on Google Maps: 24

Guest Topaz
Posted

During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in

concentration camps. The USA locked also up the Japanese and their

political opponents and for less reason. At the end of the war there

was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation

because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that

the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.

 

Newsweek magazine May 15, 1989 says on page 64:

"the way the Nazis did things: the secrecy, the unwritten orders, the

destruction of records and the innocent-sounding code names for the

extermination of the Jews. Perhaps it was inevitable that historians

would quarrel over just what happened"

The real reason there are no records of an extermination plan is

because there was no extermination plan. The Germans planned to deport

the Jews out of Germany. The records show that they planned to move

them to Madagascar.

 

Here is part of the Leuchter Report:

"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas

chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken

from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed

from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have

been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical

testing of the control sample #32 showed a cyanide content of 1050

mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which

these samples were taken are identical with those of the control

sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the

respect that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been

torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed

cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick

and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very

stable iron-cyanide complex.

"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set

out in Table III.

"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the

few that were positive were very close to the detection level

(1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absence

of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as

compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the

evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The

small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these

buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at

all these facilities"

 

Professional holocaust believers have admitted that the "gas chamber"

which is shown to the tourists at Auschwitz was actually built by the

allies after the war was over. This is what they wrote:

Brian Harmon <harmon@msg.ucsf.edu> wrote in article

<080620000051136373%harmon@msg.ucsf.edu>...

"You're confusing Krema I with Kremas II-V. Krema I is a

reconstruction, this has never been a secret. Kremas II-V are in

their demolished state as they were left."

Charles Don Hall <cdhall-nospam@erols.com> wrote in article

<8F4CB71B7NukuNuku@news.erols.com>...

"Certainly not! The word "fake" implies a deliberate attempt to

deceive.

"The staff of the Auschwitz museum will readily explain that the Nazis

tried to destroy the gas chambers in a futile attempt to conceal their

crimes. And they'll tell you that reconstruction was done later on. So

it would be dishonest for me to call it a "fake". I'll cheerfully

admit that it's a "reconstruction" if that makes you happy."

They admit that the "gas chamber" shown to the tourists at Auschwitz

was built by the allies after the war was over. There is no physical

evidence that the Germans had gas chambers. No bodies of people who

died from gas have been found. The Communists were the first to enter

the camps. How do the other allies know the Communists didn't blow up

the buildings? Then they could claim that these demolished buildings

used to be gas chambers.

 

But then the believers will say the Germans confessed. Their main

confession is from Hoess. Here are the details:

"In the introduction to Death Dealer [buffalo: Prometheus, 1992], the

historian Steven Paskuly wrote: "Just after his capture in 1946, the

British Security Police were able to extract a statement from Hoess by

beating him and filling him with liquor." Paskuly was reiterating what

Rupert Butler and Bernard Clarke had already described.

In 1983, Rupert Butler published an unabashed memoir (Legions of

Death, Hamlyn: London) describing in graphic detail how, over three

days, he and Clarke and other British policemen managed to torture

Hoess into making a "coherent statement." According to Butler [Legions

of Death, p. 237], he and the other interrogators put the boots to

Hoess the moment he was captured. For starters, Clarke struck his face

four times to get H

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Guest Scotius (Ponti Fickatur)
Posted

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:24:39 -0500, Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com>

wrote:

>

>During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in

>concentration camps. The USA locked also up the Japanese and their

>political opponents and for less reason. At the end of the war there

>was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation

>because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that

>the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.

 

What then did Hitler mean by "final solution"? Did he intend

to keep the Jews and communists, Poles and other Slavs busy playing

Yahtzee? Was that his "final solution" ("endoslung")?

>

>Newsweek magazine May 15, 1989 says on page 64:

>"the way the Nazis did things: the secrecy, the unwritten orders, the

>destruction of records and the innocent-sounding code names for the

>extermination of the Jews. Perhaps it was inevitable that historians

>would quarrel over just what happened"

>The real reason there are no records of an extermination plan is

>because there was no extermination plan. The Germans planned to deport

>the Jews out of Germany. The records show that they planned to move

>them to Madagascar.

 

No, not "the" records. There are records that Joseph P.

Kennedy advised the nazis that deporting them to Madagascar or South

America was preferrable to liquidating them because American public

opinion in regards to Germany would have been hurt by doing so.

However, that was Joseph P. Kennedy's plan, not that plan of the

nazis.

>

>Here is part of the Leuchter Report:

 

Fred Leuchter is a mouse of a man who revels in the applause

of idiots, despite being intelligent enough to have gotten kudos from

other intelligent people. He probably felt unaccomplished, and is

simply looking for attention from wherever he can get it. I note you

didn't bother to mention that he was a supplier of death row execution

machines who fell on hard times before he decided to win the hearts

and minds of the only people desperate enough to pander to his egos'

needs.

It has also been shown that neither cyanide nor zyklon-b

penetrate concrete enough for any experiment to have drawn meaningful

conclusions from the samples available at Auschwitz.

>"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas

>chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken

>from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed

>from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have

>been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical

>testing of the control sample #32 showed a cyanide content of 1050

>mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which

>these samples were taken are identical with those of the control

>sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the

>respect that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been

>torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed

>cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick

>and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very

>stable iron-cyanide complex.

>"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set

>out in Table III.

>"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the

>few that were positive were very close to the detection level

>(1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absence

>of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as

>compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the

>evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The

>small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these

>buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at

>all these facilities"

>

>Professional holocaust believers have admitted that the "gas chamber"

>which is shown to the tourists at Auschwitz was actually built by the

>allies after the war was over. This is what they wrote:

>Brian Harmon <harmon@msg.ucsf.edu> wrote in article

><080620000051136373%harmon@msg.ucsf.edu>...

>"You're confusing Krema I with Kremas II-V. Krema I is a

>reconstruction, this has never been a secret. Kremas II-V are in

>their demolished state as they were left."

>Charles Don Hall <cdhall-nospam@erols.com> wrote in article

><8F4CB71B7NukuNuku@news.erols.com>...

>"Certainly not! The word "fake" implies a deliberate attempt to

>deceive.

>"The staff of the Auschwitz museum will readily explain that the Nazis

>tried to destroy the gas chambers in a futile attempt to conceal their

>crimes. And they'll tell you that reconstruction was done later on. So

>it would be dishonest for me to call it a "fake". I'll cheerfully

>admit that it's a "reconstruction" if that makes you happy."

>They admit that the "gas chamber" shown to the tourists at Auschwitz

>was built by the allies after the war was over. There is no physical

>evidence that the Germans had gas chambers. No bodies of people who

>died from gas have been found. The Communists were the first to enter

>the camps. How do the other allies know the Communists didn't blow up

>the buildings? Then they could claim that these demolished buildings

>used to be gas chambers.

>

>But then the believers will say the Germans confessed. Their main

>confession is from Hoess. Here are the details:

>"In the introduction to Death Dealer [buffalo: Prometheus, 1992], the

>historian Steven Paskuly wrote: "Just after his capture in 1946, the

>British Security Police were able to extract a statement from Hoess by

>beating him and filling him with liquor." Paskuly was reiterating what

>Rupert Butler and Bernard Clarke had already described.

>In 1983, Rupert Butler published an unabashed memoir (Legions of

>Death, Hamlyn: London) describing in graphic detail how, over three

>days, he and Clarke and other British policemen managed to torture

>Hoess into making a "coherent statement." According to Butler [Legions

>of Death, p. 237], he and the other interrogators put the boots to

>Hoess the moment he was captured. For starters, Clarke struck his face

>four times to get H

Guest Yes, THE John Henry
Posted

"Scotius (Ponti Fickatur)" <wolvzbud@mnsi.net> wrote in

news:fdnpd3pbncfethk8uh04okgh0d7d5h5h92@4ax.com:

> Fred Leuchter is a mouse of a man who revels in the applause

> of idiots, despite being intelligent enough to have gotten kudos from

> other intelligent people. He probably felt unaccomplished, and is

> simply looking for attention from wherever he can get it. I note you

> didn't bother to mention that he was a supplier of death row execution

> machines who fell on hard times before he decided to win the hearts

> and minds of the only people desperate enough to pander to his egos'

> needs.

> It has also been shown that neither cyanide nor zyklon-b

> penetrate concrete enough for any experiment to have drawn meaningful

> conclusions from the samples available at Auschwitz.

 

No bullshit: I used to argue back and forth with Leuchter, or someone

pretending to be him and running the same Zyklon-B arguments, on FIDONet-

POLITICS fifteen years ago or more.

 

--

Yes, THE John Henry

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