Guest Patriot Games Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/16/213147.shtml?s=lh Gen. Pace: U.S. May Put More Troops Into Iraq NewsMax.com Wires Tuesday, July 17, 2007 BAGHDAD -- The U.S. military is weighing new directions for Iraq, including an even bigger troop buildup if President Bush thinks his "surge" strategy needs a further boost, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said Monday. Marine Gen. Peter Pace revealed that he and the chiefs of the Army, Marine Corps, Navy and Air Force are developing their own assessment of the situation in Iraq, to be presented to Bush in September. That will be separate from the highly anticipated report to Congress that month by Gen. David Petraeus, the top commander for Iraq. The Joint Chiefs are considering a range of actions, including another troop buildup, Pace said without making any predictions. He called it prudent planning to enable the services to be ready for Bush's decision. The military must "be prepared for whatever it's going to look like two months from now," Pace said in an interview with two reporters traveling with him to Iraq from Washington. "That way, if we need to plus up or come down" in numbers of troops in Iraq, the details will have been studied, he said. Pace, on his first visit since U.S. commanders accelerated combat operations in mid-June, said another option under consideration is maintaining current troop levels beyond September. There are now about 158,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, reflecting a boost of about 30,000 to carry out the new strategy Bush announced in January. The plan is focused on providing better security for Iraqis in Baghdad, but the intended effect _ political reconciliation between Sunnis and Shiites _ has yet to be achieved, and many in Congress are clamoring to begin withdrawing troops soon. In Washington on Monday, Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid said he would force the chamber's first all-night debate on the Iraq war Tuesday night in advance of a vote Wednesday on whether to bring home all combat troops by next spring. Republicans are using Senate rules to insist that the measure have 60 votes to pass _ a de facto filibuster since it takes that many votes to cut off debate. Pace said in Iraq that the administration must consider not only what works best on the battlefield but also the growing stress of more than four years of war on American troops and their families. He repeatedly mentioned his concern about soldiers and Marines doing multiple tours of duty and the decision in January to extend soldiers' Iraq deployments by three months, to 15 months. "That has impact on families," he said in a separate Associated Press interview at a U.S. military headquarters on the outskirts of the capital after meeting with commanders and conferring by secure video teleconference with Bush. Pace also conferred with Petraeus and Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno, the No. 2 commander in Iraq, who said he did not currently foresee requesting more troops. "Right now I can't find an assessment where I would say I need more troops," Odierno said, adding that he is confident that by September he will be able to give Petraeus his advice on how the troop buildup is working. "My assessment right now is, I need more time" to understand how the offensive targeting al-Qaida in Iraq is working and how it could lead to political progress, Odierno said. "I'm seeing some progress now here in Iraq. We have really just started what the Iraqis term 'liberating' them from al-Qaida. What I've got to determine is what do I need in order to continue that progress so that the political piece can then take hold and Iraqi security forces can hold this for the long term." Pace said he saw signs of improvement since his previous visit in April, based in part on a 30-minute aerial tour of Baghdad in a Black Hawk helicopter as well as private talks with commanders. "The surge is having very good positive results on the streets of Baghdad," he told AP. "We have yet to see the political progress and results that you would hope to see." All the while, the violence continues. On Monday, a suicide truck bombing followed by two smaller car bombs killed more than 80 people and wounded at least 180 in Kirkuk, about 180 miles north of Baghdad. There are deep tensions between Kurds and Arabs in the city, and Sunni insurgents are believed to be moving north, fleeing the U.S. offensive around Baghdad and consolidating to carry out deadly bombings. At the same time, the U.S. military said American troops launched a new offensive south of Baghdad on Monday, aiming to stop weapons and fighters from moving into the capital. As for the U.S. troop boost, some on the Joint Chiefs had argued against it in January, in part out of concern that it could not be sustained long enough to have the desired effect and that it would put too much strain on the military. In the AP interview, Pace made clear that he believes the soldiers and Marines in Iraq are focused on their mission. He seemed more concerned about the possibility that families eventually would grow fed up with the strain of long separations and the worry about loved ones being killed or wounded. The chiefs for a number of weeks have been studying the timing of a possible U.S. military transition away from today's combat-oriented mission to one focused mainly on training Iraqi security forces while also protecting Iraq's borders and continuing the fight against terrorists. Without opining on any new course of action in Iraq, Pace stressed in the interview his concern that multiple combat tours for many in the Army and Marine Corps could tear at the fabric of the military. He said that is one reason he is visiting the troops now _ to hear their concerns, assess their morale and explain to them why he advocated extending Army tours from 12 months to 15. He said he also would stop in Germany this week to meet with family members of military units that are affected by tour extensions. Pace, who will be replaced soon by Adm. Michael Mullen as Joint Chiefs chairman, was asked whether he feels political pressure amid a heated and prolonged Iraq debate in Congress and the approach of the 2008 elections. "I don't feel any pressure" of that sort, he said. Quote
Guest robw Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 How many more? I thought the "surge" was supposed to cure everything? Thanks! You just gave us more ammo. "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com> wrote in message news:469ca698$0$30648$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/16/213147.shtml?s=lh > > Gen. Pace: U.S. May Put More Troops Into Iraq > NewsMax.com Wires Tuesday, July 17, 2007 > > BAGHDAD -- The U.S. military is weighing new directions for Iraq, including > an even bigger troop buildup if President Bush thinks his "surge" strategy > needs a further boost, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said > Monday. > > Marine Gen. Peter Pace revealed that he and the chiefs of the Army, Marine > Corps, Navy and Air Force are developing their own assessment of the > situation in Iraq, to be presented to Bush in September. That will be > separate from the highly anticipated report to Congress that month by Gen. > David Petraeus, the top commander for Iraq. > > The Joint Chiefs are considering a range of actions, including another troop > buildup, Pace said without making any predictions. He called it prudent > planning to enable the services to be ready for Bush's decision. > > The military must "be prepared for whatever it's going to look like two > months from now," Pace said in an interview with two reporters traveling > with him to Iraq from Washington. > > "That way, if we need to plus up or come down" in numbers of troops in Iraq, > the details will have been studied, he said. > > Pace, on his first visit since U.S. commanders accelerated combat operations > in mid-June, said another option under consideration is maintaining current > troop levels beyond September. > > There are now about 158,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, reflecting a boost of about > 30,000 to carry out the new strategy Bush announced in January. The plan is > focused on providing better security for Iraqis in Baghdad, but the intended > effect _ political reconciliation between Sunnis and Shiites _ has yet to be > achieved, and many in Congress are clamoring to begin withdrawing troops > soon. > > In Washington on Monday, Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid said he would > force the chamber's first all-night debate on the Iraq war Tuesday night in > advance of a vote Wednesday on whether to bring home all combat troops by > next spring. > > Republicans are using Senate rules to insist that the measure have 60 votes > to pass _ a de facto filibuster since it takes that many votes to cut off > debate. > > Pace said in Iraq that the administration must consider not only what works > best on the battlefield but also the growing stress of more than four years > of war on American troops and their families. > > He repeatedly mentioned his concern about soldiers and Marines doing > multiple tours of duty and the decision in January to extend soldiers' Iraq > deployments by three months, to 15 months. > > "That has impact on families," he said in a separate Associated Press > interview at a U.S. military headquarters on the outskirts of the capital > after meeting with commanders and conferring by secure video teleconference > with Bush. > > Pace also conferred with Petraeus and Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno, the No. 2 > commander in Iraq, who said he did not currently foresee requesting more > troops. > > "Right now I can't find an assessment where I would say I need more troops," > Odierno said, adding that he is confident that by September he will be able > to give Petraeus his advice on how the troop buildup is working. > > "My assessment right now is, I need more time" to understand how the > offensive targeting al-Qaida in Iraq is working and how it could lead to > political progress, Odierno said. > > "I'm seeing some progress now here in Iraq. We have really just started what > the Iraqis term 'liberating' them from al-Qaida. What I've got to determine > is what do I need in order to continue that progress so that the political > piece can then take hold and Iraqi security forces can hold this for the > long term." > > Pace said he saw signs of improvement since his previous visit in April, > based in part on a 30-minute aerial tour of Baghdad in a Black Hawk > helicopter as well as private talks with commanders. > > "The surge is having very good positive results on the streets of Baghdad," > he told AP. "We have yet to see the political progress and results that you > would hope to see." > > All the while, the violence continues. On Monday, a suicide truck bombing > followed by two smaller car bombs killed more than 80 people and wounded at > least 180 in Kirkuk, about 180 miles north of Baghdad. > > There are deep tensions between Kurds and Arabs in the city, and Sunni > insurgents are believed to be moving north, fleeing the U.S. offensive > around Baghdad and consolidating to carry out deadly bombings. > > At the same time, the U.S. military said American troops launched a new > offensive south of Baghdad on Monday, aiming to stop weapons and fighters > from moving into the capital. > > As for the U.S. troop boost, some on the Joint Chiefs had argued against it > in January, in part out of concern that it could not be sustained long > enough to have the desired effect and that it would put too much strain on > the military. > > In the AP interview, Pace made clear that he believes the soldiers and > Marines in Iraq are focused on their mission. He seemed more concerned about > the possibility that families eventually would grow fed up with the strain > of long separations and the worry about loved ones being killed or wounded. > > The chiefs for a number of weeks have been studying the timing of a possible > U.S. military transition away from today's combat-oriented mission to one > focused mainly on training Iraqi security forces while also protecting > Iraq's borders and continuing the fight against terrorists. > > Without opining on any new course of action in Iraq, Pace stressed in the > interview his concern that multiple combat tours for many in the Army and > Marine Corps could tear at the fabric of the military. He said that is one > reason he is visiting the troops now _ to hear their concerns, assess their > morale and explain to them why he advocated extending Army tours from 12 > months to 15. > > He said he also would stop in Germany this week to meet with family members > of military units that are affected by tour extensions. > > Pace, who will be replaced soon by Adm. Michael Mullen as Joint Chiefs > chairman, was asked whether he feels political pressure amid a heated and > prolonged Iraq debate in Congress and the approach of the 2008 elections. > > "I don't feel any pressure" of that sort, he said. > > Quote
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