Guest Patriot Games Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/7/17/115132.shtml?s=al&promo_code=3748-1 Zogby: Hillary Clinton, Fred Thompson Lead 2008 Race The candidate who seems to have been running forever and the one who has yet to enter the race are leading their respective nomination contests in a national preference poll by Zogby International. The latest Zogby survey shows New York Sen. Hillary Clinton with a 37 percent to 25 percent lead over Illinois Sen. Barack Obama. Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards is a distant third at 12 percent, while New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson leads the also-rans with 4 percent. Clinton's edge over Obama has shrunk slightly since late May - she has lost two points and Obama has gained 1 percent since that last Zogby poll of the race. Eighteen percent of Democrats remain undecided, the same as in late May. The survey shows Clinton has picked up steam, especially among younger Democratic voters. She wins 59 percent support among those aged 18-29, up 10 percent since late May. Meanwhile, Edwards has lost significant ground in the same demographic. In fact, lower tier candidate Dennis Kucinich, at 6 percent among those under age 30, has more support than Edwards in that group. Clinton has also maintained her base of support among moderates, while expanding her support among progressives to 36 percent, up from 31 percent two months ago. Her backing among progressives appears to come out of Obama's liberal base, as he has slipped from 35 percent to 27 percent in that group. On the Republican side, former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson, as yet a non-candidate, has climbed to the top of the GOP leaderboard, winning 22 percent support, compared to 21 percent for former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney remains in third place with 11 percent. Arizona Sen. John McCain continues his dramatic slide, from second place in late May to fourth place now, supported by 9 percent of likely Republican voters nationwide. Thompson's strongest appeal comes from those who consider themselves to be "very conservative," as 35 percent in that group said they favored the former Tennessee Senator-turned-actor. Giuliani finished a distant third in that group, followed by Romney and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee. McCain finishes fifth among very conservative voters. Among mainline conservatives - the largest subgroup of GOP voters - Giuliani wins 21 percent, compared to 20 percent for Thompson, 13 percent for Romney, and 12 percent for McCain. One in four Republican voters are undecided, about the same as late May. The latest Zogby International telephone survey was conducted July 12-14, 2007, and included 396 likely voting Democrats. It carries a margin of error of +/- 4.9 percentage points. The Republican segment included 364 likely voters and carries a margin of error of +/- 5.2 percentage points. Quote
Guest Sid9 Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 The leader in the Republican race is None of the Above Patriot Games wrote: > http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/7/17/115132.shtml?s=al&promo_code=3748-1 > > Zogby: Hillary Clinton, Fred Thompson Lead 2008 Race > > The candidate who seems to have been running forever and the one who > has yet to enter the race are leading their respective nomination > contests in a national preference poll by Zogby International. > > The latest Zogby survey shows New York Sen. Hillary Clinton with a 37 > percent to 25 percent lead over Illinois Sen. Barack Obama. Former > North Carolina Sen. John Edwards is a distant third at 12 percent, > while New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson leads the also-rans with 4 > percent. > Clinton's edge over Obama has shrunk slightly since late May - she > has lost two points and Obama has gained 1 percent since that last > Zogby poll of the race. Eighteen percent of Democrats remain > undecided, the same as in late May. > > The survey shows Clinton has picked up steam, especially among younger > Democratic voters. She wins 59 percent support among those aged > 18-29, up 10 percent since late May. Meanwhile, Edwards has lost > significant ground in the same demographic. In fact, lower tier > candidate Dennis Kucinich, at 6 percent among those under age 30, has > more support than Edwards in that group. > > Clinton has also maintained her base of support among moderates, while > expanding her support among progressives to 36 percent, up from 31 > percent two months ago. Her backing among progressives appears to > come out of Obama's liberal base, as he has slipped from 35 percent > to 27 percent in that group. > On the Republican side, former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson, as yet a > non-candidate, has climbed to the top of the GOP leaderboard, winning > 22 percent support, compared to 21 percent for former New York City > Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney remains in > third place with 11 percent. Arizona Sen. John McCain continues his > dramatic slide, from second place in late May to fourth place now, > supported by 9 percent of likely Republican voters nationwide. > > Thompson's strongest appeal comes from those who consider themselves > to be "very conservative," as 35 percent in that group said they > favored the former Tennessee Senator-turned-actor. Giuliani finished > a distant third in that group, followed by Romney and former Arkansas > Gov. Mike Huckabee. McCain finishes fifth among very conservative > voters. > Among mainline conservatives - the largest subgroup of GOP voters - > Giuliani wins 21 percent, compared to 20 percent for Thompson, 13 > percent for Romney, and 12 percent for McCain. > > One in four Republican voters are undecided, about the same as late > May. > The latest Zogby International telephone survey was conducted July > 12-14, 2007, and included 396 likely voting Democrats. It carries a > margin of error of +/- 4.9 percentage points. The Republican segment > included 364 likely voters and carries a margin of error of +/- 5.2 > percentage points. The leader in the Republican race is None of the Above Quote
Guest Jack Granade Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:e%bni.111$an1.85@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > The leader in the Republican race is None of the Above > > Patriot Games wrote: >> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/7/17/115132.shtml?s=al&promo_code=3748-1 >> >> Zogby: Hillary Clinton, Fred Thompson Lead 2008 Race >> >> The candidate who seems to have been running forever and the one who >> has yet to enter the race are leading their respective nomination >> contests in a national preference poll by Zogby International. >> >> The latest Zogby survey shows New York Sen. Hillary Clinton with a 37 >> percent to 25 percent lead over Illinois Sen. Barack Obama. Former >> North Carolina Sen. John Edwards is a distant third at 12 percent, >> while New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson leads the also-rans with 4 >> percent. >> Clinton's edge over Obama has shrunk slightly since late May - she >> has lost two points and Obama has gained 1 percent since that last >> Zogby poll of the race. Eighteen percent of Democrats remain >> undecided, the same as in late May. >> >> The survey shows Clinton has picked up steam, especially among younger >> Democratic voters. She wins 59 percent support among those aged >> 18-29, up 10 percent since late May. Meanwhile, Edwards has lost >> significant ground in the same demographic. In fact, lower tier >> candidate Dennis Kucinich, at 6 percent among those under age 30, has >> more support than Edwards in that group. >> >> Clinton has also maintained her base of support among moderates, while >> expanding her support among progressives to 36 percent, up from 31 >> percent two months ago. Her backing among progressives appears to >> come out of Obama's liberal base, as he has slipped from 35 percent >> to 27 percent in that group. >> On the Republican side, former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson, as yet a >> non-candidate, has climbed to the top of the GOP leaderboard, winning >> 22 percent support, compared to 21 percent for former New York City >> Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney remains in >> third place with 11 percent. Arizona Sen. John McCain continues his >> dramatic slide, from second place in late May to fourth place now, >> supported by 9 percent of likely Republican voters nationwide. >> >> Thompson's strongest appeal comes from those who consider themselves >> to be "very conservative," as 35 percent in that group said they >> favored the former Tennessee Senator-turned-actor. Giuliani finished >> a distant third in that group, followed by Romney and former Arkansas >> Gov. Mike Huckabee. McCain finishes fifth among very conservative >> voters. >> Among mainline conservatives - the largest subgroup of GOP voters - >> Giuliani wins 21 percent, compared to 20 percent for Thompson, 13 >> percent for Romney, and 12 percent for McCain. >> >> One in four Republican voters are undecided, about the same as late >> May. >> The latest Zogby International telephone survey was conducted July >> 12-14, 2007, and included 396 likely voting Democrats. It carries a >> margin of error of +/- 4.9 percentage points. The Republican segment >> included 364 likely voters and carries a margin of error of +/- 5.2 >> percentage points. > > > The leader in the Republican race is None of the Above >With no Republican leader, liberals have no one to through their mud at or >if they look in the mirror................... Quote
Guest Sid9 Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Jack Granade wrote: > "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > news:e%bni.111$an1.85@bignews4.bellsouth.net... >> The leader in the Republican race is None of the Above >> >> Patriot Games wrote: >>> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/7/17/115132.shtml?s=al&promo_code=3748-1 >>> >>> Zogby: Hillary Clinton, Fred Thompson Lead 2008 Race >>> >>> The candidate who seems to have been running forever and the one who >>> has yet to enter the race are leading their respective nomination >>> contests in a national preference poll by Zogby International. >>> >>> The latest Zogby survey shows New York Sen. Hillary Clinton with a >>> 37 percent to 25 percent lead over Illinois Sen. Barack Obama. >>> Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards is a distant third at 12 >>> percent, while New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson leads the also-rans >>> with 4 percent. >>> Clinton's edge over Obama has shrunk slightly since late May - she >>> has lost two points and Obama has gained 1 percent since that last >>> Zogby poll of the race. Eighteen percent of Democrats remain >>> undecided, the same as in late May. >>> >>> The survey shows Clinton has picked up steam, especially among >>> younger Democratic voters. She wins 59 percent support among those >>> aged 18-29, up 10 percent since late May. Meanwhile, Edwards has >>> lost significant ground in the same demographic. In fact, lower tier >>> candidate Dennis Kucinich, at 6 percent among those under age 30, >>> has more support than Edwards in that group. >>> >>> Clinton has also maintained her base of support among moderates, >>> while expanding her support among progressives to 36 percent, up >>> from 31 percent two months ago. Her backing among progressives >>> appears to come out of Obama's liberal base, as he has slipped from >>> 35 percent to 27 percent in that group. >>> On the Republican side, former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson, as yet >>> a non-candidate, has climbed to the top of the GOP leaderboard, >>> winning 22 percent support, compared to 21 percent for former New >>> York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt >>> Romney remains in third place with 11 percent. Arizona Sen. John >>> McCain continues his dramatic slide, from second place in late May >>> to fourth place now, supported by 9 percent of likely Republican >>> voters nationwide. Thompson's strongest appeal comes from those who >>> consider themselves >>> to be "very conservative," as 35 percent in that group said they >>> favored the former Tennessee Senator-turned-actor. Giuliani finished >>> a distant third in that group, followed by Romney and former >>> Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee. McCain finishes fifth among very >>> conservative voters. >>> Among mainline conservatives - the largest subgroup of GOP voters - >>> Giuliani wins 21 percent, compared to 20 percent for Thompson, 13 >>> percent for Romney, and 12 percent for McCain. >>> >>> One in four Republican voters are undecided, about the same as late >>> May. >>> The latest Zogby International telephone survey was conducted July >>> 12-14, 2007, and included 396 likely voting Democrats. It carries a >>> margin of error of +/- 4.9 percentage points. The Republican segment >>> included 364 likely voters and carries a margin of error of +/- 5.2 >>> percentage points. >> >> >> The leader in the Republican race is None of the Above >> With no Republican leader, liberals have no one to through their >> mud at or if they look in the mirror................... "throw" First I thought you misuse the news reader intentionally....... now I think you are a plain old fashioned dummy. Tancredo for president! Huckabee for VP!..... The Republican ticket for 2008! Quote
Guest Topaz Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Goebbels speech on March 18, 1933: "German women, German men ! It is a happy accident that my first speech since taking charge of the Ministry for Propaganda and People's Enlightenment is to German women. Although I agree with Treitschke that men make history, I do not forget that women raise boys to manhood. You know that the National Socialist movement is the only party that keeps women out of daily politics. This arouses bitter criticism and hostility, all of it very unjustified. We have kept women out of the parliamentary-democratic intrigues of the past fourteen years in Germany not because we do not respect them, but because we respect them too much. We do not see the woman as inferior, rather as having a different mission, a different value, than that of the man. Therefore we believed that the German woman, who more than any other in the world is a woman in the best sense of the word, should use her strength and abilities in other areas than the man. The woman has always been not only the man's sexual companion, but also his fellow worker. Long ago, she did heavy labor with the man in the field. She moved with him into the cities, entering the offices and factories, doing her share of the work for which she was best suited. She did this with all her abilities, her loyalty, her selfless devotion, her readiness to sacrifice. The woman in public life today is no different than the women of the past. No one who understands the modern age would have the crazy idea of driving women from public life, from work, profession, and bread winning. But it must also be said that those things that belong to the man must remain his. That includes politics and the military. That is not to disparage women, only a recognition of how she can best use her talents and abilities. Looking back over the past year's of Germany's decline, we come to the frightening, nearly terrifying conclusion, that the less German men were willing to act as men in public life, the more women succumbed to the temptation to fill the role of the man. The feminization of men always leads to the masculinization of women. An age in which all great idea of virtue, of steadfastness, of hardness and determination have been forgotten should not be surprised that the man gradually loses his leading role in life and politics and government to the woman. It may be unpopular to say this to an audience of women, but it must be said, because it is true and because it will help make clear our attitude toward women. The modern age, with all its vast revolutionary transformations in government, politics, economics and social relations has not left women and their role in public life untouched. Things we thought impossible several years or decades ago are now everyday reality. Some good, noble and commendable things have happened. But also things that are contemptible and humiliating. These revolutionary transformations have largely taken from women their proper tasks. Their eyes were set in directions that were not appropriate for them. The result was a distorted public view of German womanhood that had nothing to do with former ideals. A fundamental change is necessary. At the risk of sounding reactionary and outdated, let me say this clearly: The first, best, and most suitable place for the women is in the family, and her most glorious duty is to give children to her people and nation, children who can continue the line of generations and who guarantee the immortality of the nation. The woman is the teacher of the youth, and therefore the builder of the foundation of the future. If the family is the nation's source of strength, the woman is its core and center. The best place for the woman to serve her people is in her marriage, in the family, in motherhood. This is her highest mission. That does not mean that those women who are employed or who have no children have no role in the motherhood of the German people. They use their strength, their abilities, their sense of responsibility for the nation, in other ways. We are convinced, however, that the first task of a socially reformed nation must be to again give the woman the possibility to fulfill her real task, her mission in the family and as a mother. The national revolutionary government is everything but reactionary. It does not want to stop the pace of our rapidly moving age. It has no intention of lagging behind the times. It wants to be the flag bearer and pathfinder of the future. We know the demands of the modern age. But that does not stop us from seeing that every age has its roots in motherhood, that there is nothing of greater importance than the living mother of a family who gives the state children. German women have been transformed in recent years. They are beginning to see that they are not happier as a result of being given more rights but fewer duties. They now realize that the right to be elected to public office at the expense of the right to life, motherhood and her daily bread is not a good trade. A characteristic of the modern era is a rapidly declining birthrate in our big cities. In 1900 two million babies were born in Germany. Now the number has fallen to one million. This drastic decline is most evident in the national capital. In the last fourteen years, Berlin's birthrate has become the lowest of any European city. By 1955, without emigration, it will have only about three million inhabitants. The government is determined to halt this decline of the family and the resulting impoverishment of our blood. There must be a fundamental change. The liberal attitude toward the family and the child is responsible for Germany's rapid decline. We today must begin worrying about an aging population. In 1900 there were seven children for each elderly person, today it is only four. If current trends continue, by 1988 the ratio will be 1 : 1. These statistics say it all. They are the best proof that if Germany continues along its current path, it will end in an abyss with breathtaking speed. We can almost determine the decade when Germany collapses because of depopulation. We are not willing to stand aside and watch the collapse of our national life and the destruction of the blood we have inherited. The national revolutionary government has the duty to rebuilt the nation on its original foundations, to transform the life and work of the woman so that it once again best serves the national good. It intends to eliminate the social inequalities so that once again the life of our people and the future of our people and the immortality of our blood is assured..." http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/ http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html Quote
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