Guest theodoric3@lycos.com Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Chanced upon a usegroup where they refer to each other as "people of size". Simply "fat" apparently not enough, or "obese", sounds too medical. BBW, big beautiful woman. I see people at the store who in the not too distant past could have been working as carnival fatties. greg Quote
Guest Jack Granade Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 "pe2" <dalejrfan@plzwinwonsoon.net> wrote in message news:Oldni.49821$LE1.12937@newsfe13.lga... > ??????????? Plonk. >Double Plonk....The gut is nuts........... Quote
Guest Hertz Dount Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 <theodoric3@lycos.com> wrote in message news:1184718574.061516.89060@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > Chanced upon a usegroup where they refer to each other as "people of > size". Simply "fat" apparently not enough, or "obese", sounds too > medical. BBW, big beautiful woman. I see > people at the store who in the not too distant past could have been > working as carnival fatties. > > > greg > Yes, I have to agree! I live in Hawaii, where we have the highest percentage of any state of people considered "grossly obese". I hear all the stupid excuses; "I have big bones"; "I have a gland problem", etc. Not a one of them will admit that their problem is that they eat enough to feed a family of 6. Saddest part of it all was the recent attempt to get legislation passed that would have classified obesity as a disease. Since when is a complete lack of self control a "disease"? Honu Quote
Guest SgtMinor Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Hertz Dount wrote: > <theodoric3@lycos.com> wrote in message > news:1184718574.061516.89060@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > >>Chanced upon a usegroup where they refer to each other as "people of >>size". Simply "fat" apparently not enough, or "obese", sounds too >>medical. BBW, big beautiful woman. I see >>people at the store who in the not too distant past could have been >>working as carnival fatties. >> >> >>greg >> > > > Yes, I have to agree! I live in Hawaii, where we have the highest > percentage of any state of people considered "grossly obese". > > I hear all the stupid excuses; "I have big bones"; "I have a gland problem", > etc. > Not a one of them will admit that their problem is that they eat enough to > feed a family of 6. Saddest part of it all was the recent attempt to get > legislation passed that would have classified obesity as a disease. Since > when is a complete lack of self control a "disease"? > > > Honu > > You should try to learn a few things about the Hawaiian people and their culture while you're in the Islands. With luck, a bit of the Aloha Spirit will rub off on you. And maybe some empathy. Polynesian peoples, among others, are genetically predisposed toward obesity. Historically, during periodic famines, people with "fat storing" genes had better chances of survival. The gene is carried by a lot of people whose ancestors faced life under famine conditions and it served them well. But now that food is available on an uninterrupted basis this gene has become detrimental to the person's well-being. It may not be a disease, but it's not easy to control. When your body tells you that to survive, you need to eat as much as you can, what will you tell it? Quote
Guest Harvey Scobie Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 If it can be classified as a disease perhaps medicare/medicaid and civilian health insurances would pick up the tab for diet treatments instead of the good old tried and true "Less Food, More Exercise" and least it works for me at least when I follow that. "SgtMinor" <Sarge@the.old.folks.home.invalid> wrote in message news:cf2dnS_rs6DL8gDbnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com... > Hertz Dount wrote: > >> <theodoric3@lycos.com> wrote in message >> news:1184718574.061516.89060@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> >>>Chanced upon a usegroup where they refer to each other as "people of >>>size". Simply "fat" apparently not enough, or "obese", sounds too >>>medical. BBW, big beautiful woman. I see >>>people at the store who in the not too distant past could have been >>>working as carnival fatties. >>> >>> >>>greg >>> >> >> >> Yes, I have to agree! I live in Hawaii, where we have the highest >> percentage of any state of people considered "grossly obese". >> >> I hear all the stupid excuses; "I have big bones"; "I have a gland >> problem", etc. >> Not a one of them will admit that their problem is that they eat enough >> to feed a family of 6. Saddest part of it all was the recent attempt to >> get legislation passed that would have classified obesity as a disease. >> Since when is a complete lack of self control a "disease"? >> >> >> Honu >> >> > > You should try to learn a few things about the Hawaiian people and their > culture while you're in the Islands. With luck, a bit of the Aloha Spirit > will rub off on you. And maybe some empathy. > > Polynesian peoples, among others, are genetically predisposed toward > obesity. Historically, during periodic famines, people with "fat storing" > genes had better chances of survival. The gene is carried by a lot of > people whose ancestors faced life under famine conditions and it served > them well. But now that food is available on an uninterrupted basis this > gene has become detrimental to the person's well-being. > > It may not be a disease, but it's not easy to control. When your body > tells you that to survive, you need to eat as much as you can, what will > you tell it? Quote
Guest SgtMinor Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Harvey Scobie wrote: > If it can be classified as a disease perhaps medicare/medicaid and civilian > health insurances would pick up the tab for diet treatments instead of the > good old tried and true "Less Food, More Exercise" and least it works for me > at least when I follow that. Some Hawaiian people have seen their weight come down and their health improve by returning to their native diets of taro, bananas, coconuts, breadfruit, fish and meats like chicken and pork. > "SgtMinor" <Sarge@the.old.folks.home.invalid> wrote in message > news:cf2dnS_rs6DL8gDbnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com... > >>Hertz Dount wrote: >> >> >>><theodoric3@lycos.com> wrote in message >>>news:1184718574.061516.89060@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> >>>>Chanced upon a usegroup where they refer to each other as "people of >>>>size". Simply "fat" apparently not enough, or "obese", sounds too >>>>medical. BBW, big beautiful woman. I see >>>>people at the store who in the not too distant past could have been >>>>working as carnival fatties. >>>> >>>> >>>>greg >>>> >>> >>> >>>Yes, I have to agree! I live in Hawaii, where we have the highest >>>percentage of any state of people considered "grossly obese". >>> >>>I hear all the stupid excuses; "I have big bones"; "I have a gland >>>problem", etc. >>>Not a one of them will admit that their problem is that they eat enough >>>to feed a family of 6. Saddest part of it all was the recent attempt to >>>get legislation passed that would have classified obesity as a disease. >>>Since when is a complete lack of self control a "disease"? >>> >>> >>>Honu >>> >>> >> >>You should try to learn a few things about the Hawaiian people and their >>culture while you're in the Islands. With luck, a bit of the Aloha Spirit >>will rub off on you. And maybe some empathy. >> >>Polynesian peoples, among others, are genetically predisposed toward >>obesity. Historically, during periodic famines, people with "fat storing" >>genes had better chances of survival. The gene is carried by a lot of >>people whose ancestors faced life under famine conditions and it served >>them well. But now that food is available on an uninterrupted basis this >>gene has become detrimental to the person's well-being. >> >>It may not be a disease, but it's not easy to control. When your body >>tells you that to survive, you need to eat as much as you can, what will >>you tell it? > > > Quote
Guest Hertz Dount Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 "SgtMinor" <Sarge@the.old.folks.home.invalid> wrote in message news:cf2dnS_rs6DL8gDbnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com... > Hertz Dount wrote: > >> <theodoric3@lycos.com> wrote in message >> news:1184718574.061516.89060@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> >>>Chanced upon a usegroup where they refer to each other as "people of >>>size". Simply "fat" apparently not enough, or "obese", sounds too >>>medical. BBW, big beautiful woman. I see >>>people at the store who in the not too distant past could have been >>>working as carnival fatties. >>> >>> >>>greg >>> >> >> >> Yes, I have to agree! I live in Hawaii, where we have the highest >> percentage of any state of people considered "grossly obese". >> >> I hear all the stupid excuses; "I have big bones"; "I have a gland >> problem", etc. >> Not a one of them will admit that their problem is that they eat enough >> to feed a family of 6. Saddest part of it all was the recent attempt to >> get legislation passed that would have classified obesity as a disease. >> Since when is a complete lack of self control a "disease"? >> >> >> Honu >> >> > > You should try to learn a few things about the Hawaiian people and their > culture while you're in the Islands. With luck, a bit of the Aloha Spirit > will rub off on you. And maybe some empathy. Been here more than 30 years. I have witnessed the decline of "Aloha Spirit". > > Polynesian peoples, among others, are genetically predisposed toward > obesity. Many cultures are predisposed towards obesity. But that does not mean that obesity is inevitable. I know many polynesians that are of normal weight, and they maintain a healthy lifestyle to keep it that way. Historically, during periodic famines, people with "fat > storing" genes had better chances of survival. There has been no famine in Hawaii for many generations. Are you telling me that the 500 and 700 pounders barely moving around are preparing for the future? Eating 6,000 calories per meal is preparing for the future? I think that we have pretended long enough that genetics or big bones or famines cause them to overeat. Maybe if we told them that they are fat, or obese, istead of pretending they are not, then maybe they would at least try to lose some weight. With normal caloric intake and acrivity, no one will weigh 300 to 700 pounds. It takes a high caloric intake to put on that much weight, and maintain it. The gene is carried by a > lot of people whose ancestors faced life under famine conditions and it > served them well. But now that food is available on an uninterrupted > basis this gene has become detrimental to the person's well-being. Then they simply need to eat an appropriate amount of fodd to maintain a healthy weight. The only reason for being overweight is the lack of self control. > > It may not be a disease, but it's not easy to control. I never said it was easy. But being grossly obese is not easy either. jsut betting out of bed or a chair, or walking from point "A" to point "B" becomes a major undertaking. When your body > tells you that to survive, you need to eat as much as you can, what will > you tell it? I eat a normal diet. I do not eat 15,000 calories a day. In times of famine anywhere in the world, how many obese animals do you see? In times of plenty, how many obese wild animals do you see? You are like so many, you make excuses for them, when the only problem they have is eating too much. That is not a disease, a conditioned response, or an act of survival. It is simple gluttony, lack of self respect and self control. I'll imagine you'll go on finding other reasons for saying "it's okay to eat 8 happy meals and two big gulps for a snack". Honu Quote
Guest Hertz Dount Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 "SgtMinor" <Sarge@the.old.folks.home.invalid> wrote in message news:UK-dnTMKKvOA6wDbnZ2dnUVZ_tu3nZ2d@comcast.com... > Harvey Scobie wrote: > >> If it can be classified as a disease perhaps medicare/medicaid and >> civilian health insurances would pick up the tab for diet treatments >> instead of the good old tried and true "Less Food, More Exercise" and >> least it works for me at least when I follow that. > > Some Hawaiian people have seen their weight come down and their health > improve by returning to their native diets of taro, bananas, coconuts, > breadfruit, fish and meats like chicken and pork. Sure beats having three Double Whoppers with Cheese combos, supersized, an apple pie, a chocolate cheesecake, a milkshake and a 128 ounce Coke for lunch! Hey...gotta do whatever it takes to be ready for famine...yeah? Honu Quote
Guest SgtMinor Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Hertz Dount wrote: > "SgtMinor" <Sarge@the.old.folks.home.invalid> wrote in message > news:cf2dnS_rs6DL8gDbnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com... > >>Hertz Dount wrote: >> >> >>><theodoric3@lycos.com> wrote in message >>>news:1184718574.061516.89060@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> >>>>Chanced upon a usegroup where they refer to each other as "people of >>>>size". Simply "fat" apparently not enough, or "obese", sounds too >>>>medical. BBW, big beautiful woman. I see >>>>people at the store who in the not too distant past could have been >>>>working as carnival fatties. >>>> >>>> >>>>greg >>>> >>> >>> >>>Yes, I have to agree! I live in Hawaii, where we have the highest >>>percentage of any state of people considered "grossly obese". >>> >>>I hear all the stupid excuses; "I have big bones"; "I have a gland >>>problem", etc. >>>Not a one of them will admit that their problem is that they eat enough >>>to feed a family of 6. Saddest part of it all was the recent attempt to >>>get legislation passed that would have classified obesity as a disease. >>>Since when is a complete lack of self control a "disease"? >>> >>> >>>Honu >>> >>> >> >>You should try to learn a few things about the Hawaiian people and their >>culture while you're in the Islands. With luck, a bit of the Aloha Spirit >>will rub off on you. And maybe some empathy. > > > Been here more than 30 years. I have witnessed the decline of "Aloha > Spirit". That is so hard to believe, given all the goodwill you radiate. > > >>Polynesian peoples, among others, are genetically predisposed toward >>obesity. > > > Many cultures are predisposed towards obesity. But that does not mean that > obesity is inevitable. I know many polynesians that are of normal weight, > and they maintain a healthy lifestyle to keep it that way. > > Historically, during periodic famines, people with "fat > >>storing" genes had better chances of survival. > > > There has been no famine in Hawaii for many generations. Are you telling me > that the 500 and 700 pounders barely moving around are preparing for the > future? > Eating 6,000 calories per meal is preparing for the future? > > I think that we have pretended long enough that genetics or big bones or > famines cause them to overeat. Maybe if we told them that they are fat, or > obese, istead of pretending they are not, then maybe they would at least try > to lose some weight. > > With normal caloric intake and acrivity, no one will weigh 300 to 700 > pounds. It takes a high caloric intake to put on that much weight, and > maintain it. > > > > The gene is carried by a > >>lot of people whose ancestors faced life under famine conditions and it >>served them well. But now that food is available on an uninterrupted >>basis this gene has become detrimental to the person's well-being. > > > Then they simply need to eat an appropriate amount of fodd to maintain a > healthy weight. The only reason for being overweight is the lack of self > control. > > > >>It may not be a disease, but it's not easy to control. > > > I never said it was easy. But being grossly obese is not easy either. jsut > betting out of bed or a chair, or walking from point "A" to point "B" > becomes a major undertaking. > > > > When your body > >>tells you that to survive, you need to eat as much as you can, what will >>you tell it? > > > I eat a normal diet. I do not eat 15,000 calories a day. In times of > famine anywhere in the world, how many obese animals do you see? In times > of plenty, how many obese wild animals do you see? > > You are like so many, you make excuses for them, when the only problem they > have is eating too much. That is not a disease, a conditioned response, or > an act of survival. > It is simple gluttony, lack of self respect and self control. > > I'll imagine you'll go on finding other reasons for saying "it's okay to eat > 8 happy meals and two big gulps for a snack". > > Honu I had thought for a while that some genetic trait accounted for your behavior, but thanks to this post it's now clear to me that you act like an idiot for the same reason some Hawaiians are fat. It's a lifestyle choice. Quote
Guest Hertz Dount Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 "SgtMinor" <Sarge@the.old.folks.home.invalid> wrote in message news:4umdnSOSU9g_FADbnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com... > Hertz Dount wrote: >> "SgtMinor" <Sarge@the.old.folks.home.invalid> wrote in message >> news:cf2dnS_rs6DL8gDbnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >>>Hertz Dount wrote: >>> >>> >>>><theodoric3@lycos.com> wrote in message >>>>news:1184718574.061516.89060@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>> >>>>>Chanced upon a usegroup where they refer to each other as "people of >>>>>size". Simply "fat" apparently not enough, or "obese", sounds too >>>>>medical. BBW, big beautiful woman. I see >>>>>people at the store who in the not too distant past could have been >>>>>working as carnival fatties. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>greg >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Yes, I have to agree! I live in Hawaii, where we have the highest >>>>percentage of any state of people considered "grossly obese". >>>> >>>>I hear all the stupid excuses; "I have big bones"; "I have a gland >>>>problem", etc. >>>>Not a one of them will admit that their problem is that they eat enough >>>>to feed a family of 6. Saddest part of it all was the recent attempt to >>>>get legislation passed that would have classified obesity as a disease. >>>>Since when is a complete lack of self control a "disease"? >>>> >>>> >>>>Honu >>>> >>>> >>> >>>You should try to learn a few things about the Hawaiian people and their >>>culture while you're in the Islands. With luck, a bit of the Aloha >>>Spirit will rub off on you. And maybe some empathy. >> >> >> Been here more than 30 years. I have witnessed the decline of "Aloha >> Spirit". > > That is so hard to believe, given all the goodwill you radiate. > >> >> >>>Polynesian peoples, among others, are genetically predisposed toward >>>obesity. >> >> >> Many cultures are predisposed towards obesity. But that does not mean >> that obesity is inevitable. I know many polynesians that are of normal >> weight, and they maintain a healthy lifestyle to keep it that way. >> >> Historically, during periodic famines, people with "fat >> >>>storing" genes had better chances of survival. >> >> >> There has been no famine in Hawaii for many generations. Are you telling >> me that the 500 and 700 pounders barely moving around are preparing for >> the future? >> Eating 6,000 calories per meal is preparing for the future? >> >> I think that we have pretended long enough that genetics or big bones or >> famines cause them to overeat. Maybe if we told them that they are fat, >> or obese, istead of pretending they are not, then maybe they would at >> least try to lose some weight. >> >> With normal caloric intake and acrivity, no one will weigh 300 to 700 >> pounds. It takes a high caloric intake to put on that much weight, and >> maintain it. >> >> >> >> The gene is carried by a >> >>>lot of people whose ancestors faced life under famine conditions and it >>>served them well. But now that food is available on an uninterrupted >>>basis this gene has become detrimental to the person's well-being. >> >> >> Then they simply need to eat an appropriate amount of fodd to maintain a >> healthy weight. The only reason for being overweight is the lack of self >> control. >> >> >> >>>It may not be a disease, but it's not easy to control. >> >> >> I never said it was easy. But being grossly obese is not easy either. >> jsut betting out of bed or a chair, or walking from point "A" to point >> "B" becomes a major undertaking. >> >> >> >> When your body >> >>>tells you that to survive, you need to eat as much as you can, what will >>>you tell it? >> >> >> I eat a normal diet. I do not eat 15,000 calories a day. In times of >> famine anywhere in the world, how many obese animals do you see? In >> times of plenty, how many obese wild animals do you see? >> >> You are like so many, you make excuses for them, when the only problem >> they have is eating too much. That is not a disease, a conditioned >> response, or an act of survival. >> It is simple gluttony, lack of self respect and self control. >> >> I'll imagine you'll go on finding other reasons for saying "it's okay to >> eat 8 happy meals and two big gulps for a snack". >> >> Honu > > I had thought for a while that some genetic trait accounted for your > behavior, but thanks to this post it's now clear to me that you act like > an idiot for the same reason some Hawaiians are fat. It's a lifestyle > choice.\ Truth and honesty are always a lifestyle choice. I don't try to deal with problems by making excuses for them, especially lame excuses like the ones cited for obesity... Honu Quote
Guest ChrisT Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:29:34 -0700, theodoric3@lycos.com wrote: >Chanced upon a usegroup where they refer to each other as "people of >size". Simply "fat" apparently not enough, or "obese", sounds too >medical. BBW, big beautiful woman. I see >people at the store who in the not too distant past could have been >working as carnival fatties. > > >greg Are you picking on portly people. Quote
Guest Billzz Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 "SgtMinor" <Sarge@the.old.folks.home.invalid> wrote in message news:UK-dnTMKKvOA6wDbnZ2dnUVZ_tu3nZ2d@comcast.com... > Harvey Scobie wrote: > >> If it can be classified as a disease perhaps medicare/medicaid and >> civilian health insurances would pick up the tab for diet treatments >> instead of the good old tried and true "Less Food, More Exercise" and >> least it works for me at least when I follow that. > > Some Hawaiian people have seen their weight come down and their health > improve by returning to their native diets of taro, bananas, coconuts, > breadfruit, fish and meats like chicken and pork. And let us not forget of the eating of Captain Cook... http://www.heretical.com/cannibal/polynesi.html >> "SgtMinor" <Sarge@the.old.folks.home.invalid> wrote in message >> news:cf2dnS_rs6DL8gDbnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >>>Hertz Dount wrote: >>> >>> >>>><theodoric3@lycos.com> wrote in message >>>>news:1184718574.061516.89060@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>> >>>>>Chanced upon a usegroup where they refer to each other as "people of >>>>>size". Simply "fat" apparently not enough, or "obese", sounds too >>>>>medical. BBW, big beautiful woman. I see >>>>>people at the store who in the not too distant past could have been >>>>>working as carnival fatties. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>greg >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Yes, I have to agree! I live in Hawaii, where we have the highest >>>>percentage of any state of people considered "grossly obese". >>>> >>>>I hear all the stupid excuses; "I have big bones"; "I have a gland >>>>problem", etc. >>>>Not a one of them will admit that their problem is that they eat enough >>>>to feed a family of 6. Saddest part of it all was the recent attempt to >>>>get legislation passed that would have classified obesity as a disease. >>>>Since when is a complete lack of self control a "disease"? >>>> >>>> >>>>Honu >>>> >>>> >>> >>>You should try to learn a few things about the Hawaiian people and their >>>culture while you're in the Islands. With luck, a bit of the Aloha >>>Spirit will rub off on you. And maybe some empathy. >>> >>>Polynesian peoples, among others, are genetically predisposed toward >>>obesity. Historically, during periodic famines, people with "fat >>>storing" genes had better chances of survival. The gene is carried by a >>>lot of people whose ancestors faced life under famine conditions and it >>>served them well. But now that food is available on an uninterrupted >>>basis this gene has become detrimental to the person's well-being. >>> >>>It may not be a disease, but it's not easy to control. When your body >>>tells you that to survive, you need to eat as much as you can, what will >>>you tell it? >> >> Quote
Guest aeiouy Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 "Hertz Dount" <somewhere@outhere.com> wrote in message news:lpmdndMHZY5S9ADbnZ2dnUVZ_v2unZ2d@hawaiiantel.net... > > <theodoric3@lycos.com> wrote in message > news:1184718574.061516.89060@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> Chanced upon a usegroup where they refer to each other as "people of >> size". Simply "fat" apparently not enough, or "obese", sounds too >> medical. BBW, big beautiful woman. I see >> people at the store who in the not too distant past could have been >> working as carnival fatties. >> >> >> greg >> > > Yes, I have to agree! I live in Hawaii, where we have the highest > percentage of any state of people considered "grossly obese". > > I hear all the stupid excuses; "I have big bones"; "I have a gland > problem", etc. > Not a one of them will admit that their problem is that they eat enough to > feed a family of 6. Saddest part of it all was the recent attempt to get > legislation passed that would have classified obesity as a disease. Since > when is a complete lack of self control a "disease"? > > > Honu > > Perhaps you should speak to them instead of ranting about it here Quote
Guest aeiouy Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 "Hertz Dount" <somewhere@outhere.com> wrote in message news:lpmdndMHZY5S9ADbnZ2dnUVZ_v2unZ2d@hawaiiantel.net... > > <theodoric3@lycos.com> wrote in message > news:1184718574.061516.89060@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> Chanced upon a usegroup where they refer to each other as "people of >> size". Simply "fat" apparently not enough, or "obese", sounds too >> medical. BBW, big beautiful woman. I see >> people at the store who in the not too distant past could have been >> working as carnival fatties. >> >> >> greg >> > > Yes, I have to agree! I live in Hawaii, where we have the highest > percentage of any state of people considered "grossly obese". > > I hear all the stupid excuses; "I have big bones"; "I have a gland > problem", etc. > Not a one of them will admit that their problem is that they eat enough to > feed a family of 6. Saddest part of it all was the recent attempt to get > legislation passed that would have classified obesity as a disease. Since > when is a complete lack of self control a "disease"? > > > Honu > > Did you know that Capt. Cook described the Hawaiians as lean and lanky? It was the introduction of Western food/lifestyle that packed on those pounds. Also from what I can tell they don't spend a whole lot of time judging each other about weight. Maybe you're the one with the weight problem; upset and bitter at people who are fat and happy. Quote
Guest aeiouy Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 <theodoric3@lycos.com> wrote in message news:1184718574.061516.89060@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > Chanced upon a usegroup where they refer to each other as "people of > size". Simply "fat" apparently not enough, or "obese", sounds too > medical. BBW, big beautiful woman. I see > people at the store who in the not too distant past could have been > working as carnival fatties. Been hanging around the golf newsgroups again eh? > > > greg > Quote
Guest Hertz Dount Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 "aeiouy" <aeiouy@vowels.com> wrote in message news:469dc76d$0$4708$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > > "Hertz Dount" <somewhere@outhere.com> wrote in message > news:lpmdndMHZY5S9ADbnZ2dnUVZ_v2unZ2d@hawaiiantel.net... >> >> <theodoric3@lycos.com> wrote in message >> news:1184718574.061516.89060@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >>> Chanced upon a usegroup where they refer to each other as "people of >>> size". Simply "fat" apparently not enough, or "obese", sounds too >>> medical. BBW, big beautiful woman. I see >>> people at the store who in the not too distant past could have been >>> working as carnival fatties. >>> >>> >>> greg >>> >> >> Yes, I have to agree! I live in Hawaii, where we have the highest >> percentage of any state of people considered "grossly obese". >> >> I hear all the stupid excuses; "I have big bones"; "I have a gland >> problem", etc. >> Not a one of them will admit that their problem is that they eat enough >> to feed a family of 6. Saddest part of it all was the recent attempt to >> get legislation passed that would have classified obesity as a disease. >> Since when is a complete lack of self control a "disease"? >> >> >> Honu >> >> > Perhaps you should speak to them instead of ranting about it here It does no good... Honu Quote
Guest Hertz Dount Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 "aeiouy" <aeiouy@vowels.com> wrote in message news:469dc81b$0$4711$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > > "Hertz Dount" <somewhere@outhere.com> wrote in message > news:lpmdndMHZY5S9ADbnZ2dnUVZ_v2unZ2d@hawaiiantel.net... >> >> <theodoric3@lycos.com> wrote in message >> news:1184718574.061516.89060@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >>> Chanced upon a usegroup where they refer to each other as "people of >>> size". Simply "fat" apparently not enough, or "obese", sounds too >>> medical. BBW, big beautiful woman. I see >>> people at the store who in the not too distant past could have been >>> working as carnival fatties. >>> >>> >>> greg >>> >> >> Yes, I have to agree! I live in Hawaii, where we have the highest >> percentage of any state of people considered "grossly obese". >> >> I hear all the stupid excuses; "I have big bones"; "I have a gland >> problem", etc. >> Not a one of them will admit that their problem is that they eat enough >> to feed a family of 6. Saddest part of it all was the recent attempt to >> get legislation passed that would have classified obesity as a disease. >> Since when is a complete lack of self control a "disease"? >> >> >> Honu >> >> > Did you know that Capt. Cook described the Hawaiians as lean and lanky? > It was the introduction of Western food/lifestyle that packed on those > pounds. Also from what I can tell they don't spend a whole lot of time > judging each other about weight. Maybe you're the one with the weight > problem; upset and bitter at people who are fat and happy. There are many people, of all nationalities, that live here in the Islands and eat the same food that the grossly obese folks eat. The difference is in the amount. The lean and lanky folks eat enough calories to get them through the day but don't eat enough calories to start putting on fat. They know when to stop eating. It is a matter of degree, a matter of self control. Honu Quote
Guest Lee Cooper Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 I think that other then being a RACIST..... Hone got his/her butt kicked on a regular basis by a "fat" kid Sincerely, Lee "SgtMinor" <Sarge@the.old.folks.home.invalid> wrote in message news:4umdnSOSU9g_FADbnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com... > Hertz Dount wrote: >> "SgtMinor" <Sarge@the.old.folks.home.invalid> wrote in message >> news:cf2dnS_rs6DL8gDbnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >>>Hertz Dount wrote: >>> >>> >>>><theodoric3@lycos.com> wrote in message >>>>news:1184718574.061516.89060@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>> >>>>>Chanced upon a usegroup where they refer to each other as "people of >>>>>size". Simply "fat" apparently not enough, or "obese", sounds too >>>>>medical. BBW, big beautiful woman. I see >>>>>people at the store who in the not too distant past could have been >>>>>working as carnival fatties. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>greg >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Yes, I have to agree! I live in Hawaii, where we have the highest >>>>percentage of any state of people considered "grossly obese". >>>> >>>>I hear all the stupid excuses; "I have big bones"; "I have a gland >>>>problem", etc. >>>>Not a one of them will admit that their problem is that they eat enough >>>>to feed a family of 6. Saddest part of it all was the recent attempt to >>>>get legislation passed that would have classified obesity as a disease. >>>>Since when is a complete lack of self control a "disease"? >>>> >>>> >>>>Honu >>>> >>>> >>> >>>You should try to learn a few things about the Hawaiian people and their >>>culture while you're in the Islands. With luck, a bit of the Aloha >>>Spirit will rub off on you. And maybe some empathy. >> >> >> Been here more than 30 years. I have witnessed the decline of "Aloha >> Spirit". > > That is so hard to believe, given all the goodwill you radiate. > >> >> >>>Polynesian peoples, among others, are genetically predisposed toward >>>obesity. >> >> >> Many cultures are predisposed towards obesity. But that does not mean >> that obesity is inevitable. I know many polynesians that are of normal >> weight, and they maintain a healthy lifestyle to keep it that way. >> >> Historically, during periodic famines, people with "fat >> >>>storing" genes had better chances of survival. >> >> >> There has been no famine in Hawaii for many generations. Are you telling >> me that the 500 and 700 pounders barely moving around are preparing for >> the future? >> Eating 6,000 calories per meal is preparing for the future? >> >> I think that we have pretended long enough that genetics or big bones or >> famines cause them to overeat. Maybe if we told them that they are fat, >> or obese, istead of pretending they are not, then maybe they would at >> least try to lose some weight. >> >> With normal caloric intake and acrivity, no one will weigh 300 to 700 >> pounds. It takes a high caloric intake to put on that much weight, and >> maintain it. >> >> >> >> The gene is carried by a >> >>>lot of people whose ancestors faced life under famine conditions and it >>>served them well. But now that food is available on an uninterrupted >>>basis this gene has become detrimental to the person's well-being. >> >> >> Then they simply need to eat an appropriate amount of fodd to maintain a >> healthy weight. The only reason for being overweight is the lack of self >> control. >> >> >> >>>It may not be a disease, but it's not easy to control. >> >> >> I never said it was easy. But being grossly obese is not easy either. >> jsut betting out of bed or a chair, or walking from point "A" to point >> "B" becomes a major undertaking. >> >> >> >> When your body >> >>>tells you that to survive, you need to eat as much as you can, what will >>>you tell it? >> >> >> I eat a normal diet. I do not eat 15,000 calories a day. In times of >> famine anywhere in the world, how many obese animals do you see? In >> times of plenty, how many obese wild animals do you see? >> >> You are like so many, you make excuses for them, when the only problem >> they have is eating too much. That is not a disease, a conditioned >> response, or an act of survival. >> It is simple gluttony, lack of self respect and self control. >> >> I'll imagine you'll go on finding other reasons for saying "it's okay to >> eat 8 happy meals and two big gulps for a snack". >> >> Honu > > I had thought for a while that some genetic trait accounted for your > behavior, but thanks to this post it's now clear to me that you act like > an idiot for the same reason some Hawaiians are fat. It's a lifestyle > choice. Quote
Guest Gogarty Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 In article <UK-dnTMKKvOA6wDbnZ2dnUVZ_tu3nZ2d@comcast.com>, Sarge@the.old.folks.home.invalid says... > >Some Hawaiian people have seen their weight come down and their health >improve by returning to their native diets of taro, bananas, coconuts, >breadfruit, fish and meats like chicken and pork. > Exactly. Poor Polynesians have been living on high calory junk food for generations. Quote
Guest Hertz Dount Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 "Lee Cooper" <coopi@alltel.net> wrote in message news:e2e51$469df324$471e6f5a$661@ALLTEL.NET... >I think that other then being a RACIST..... > Hone got his/her butt kicked on a regular basis by a "fat" kid > Sincerely, > Lee There was nothing racist in my comments at all. I think you are projecting... Honu Quote
Guest Lee Cooper Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Been to Hawaii several times and the locals are VERY racist, no projecting FACT. Sincerely, Lee "Hertz Dount" <somewhere@outhere.com> wrote in message news:epWdnbDP6eOw9wPbnZ2dnUVZ_oimnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net... > > "Lee Cooper" <coopi@alltel.net> wrote in message > news:e2e51$469df324$471e6f5a$661@ALLTEL.NET... >>I think that other then being a RACIST..... >> Hone got his/her butt kicked on a regular basis by a "fat" kid >> Sincerely, >> Lee > > There was nothing racist in my comments at all. > > I think you are projecting... > > > Honu > > > Quote
Guest Hertz Dount Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 "Lee Cooper" <coopi@alltel.net> wrote in message news:22fc9$469ec22d$471e6f5a$30688@ALLTEL.NET... > Been to Hawaii several times and the locals are VERY racist, no projecting > FACT. > Sincerely, > Lee > > "Hertz Dount" <somewhere@outhere.com> wrote in message > news:epWdnbDP6eOw9wPbnZ2dnUVZ_oimnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net... >> >> "Lee Cooper" <coopi@alltel.net> wrote in message >> news:e2e51$469df324$471e6f5a$661@ALLTEL.NET... >>>I think that other then being a RACIST..... >>> Hone got his/her butt kicked on a regular basis by a "fat" kid >>> Sincerely, >>> Lee >> >> There was nothing racist in my comments at all. >> >> I think you are projecting... >> >> >> Honu >> Perhaps they were merely returning what they got from you? Honu Quote
Guest Lee Cooper Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Not hardly, they treat every tourist like CRAP, they hate being part of the U.S. Sincerely, Lee "Hertz Dount" <somewhere@outhere.com> wrote in message news:aOSdne3I4tCXcgPbnZ2dnUVZ_se3nZ2d@hawaiiantel.net... > > "Lee Cooper" <coopi@alltel.net> wrote in message > news:22fc9$469ec22d$471e6f5a$30688@ALLTEL.NET... >> Been to Hawaii several times and the locals are VERY racist, no >> projecting FACT. >> Sincerely, >> Lee >> >> "Hertz Dount" <somewhere@outhere.com> wrote in message >> news:epWdnbDP6eOw9wPbnZ2dnUVZ_oimnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net... >>> >>> "Lee Cooper" <coopi@alltel.net> wrote in message >>> news:e2e51$469df324$471e6f5a$661@ALLTEL.NET... >>>>I think that other then being a RACIST..... >>>> Hone got his/her butt kicked on a regular basis by a "fat" kid >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Lee >>> >>> There was nothing racist in my comments at all. >>> >>> I think you are projecting... >>> >>> >>> Honu >>> > > > Perhaps they were merely returning what they got from you? > > Honu > > > Quote
Guest Florida Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 On Jul 17, 8:29 pm, theodor...@lycos.com wrote: > Chanced upon a usegroup where they refer to each other as "people > of size". Simply "fat" apparently not enough, or "obese", sounds -SNIP- :^) "Chanced upon" is convincing, right? Well, I've skimmed the replies and I notice that "greg" didn't stick around for this erudite discussion. Just tossed out a little plastic bag of bullsh t and strolled away, leaving the usual bunch to peck away at it... Quote
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